MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2226

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Temperment & Main Characters
	by dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph
  2) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by "Phoenix, Guardian of Harmony" <tzarius-+AT+-ecsis.net>
  3) Sudden thoughts + Companions
	by Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
  4) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by Paige <ppwalker-+AT+-sympatico.ca>
  5) Partially OFF
	by Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
  6) Re: Partially OFF (ML)
	by Amy Trujillo <trujillo-+AT+-southwind.net>
  7) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by Emzodie-+AT+-aol.com
  8) Re: Sudden thoughts + Companions
	by Emzodie-+AT+-aol.com
  9) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by PsionicElf-+AT+-aol.com
 10) RE: Partially OFF (ML)
	by "Susan Hauschild" <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com>
 11) RE: A review-sparked rant
	by "Susan Hauschild" <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com>
 12) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by PsionicElf-+AT+-aol.com
 13) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
 14) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by Amy Trujillo <trujillo-+AT+-southwind.net>
 15) RE: A review-sparked rant
	by "Susan Hauschild" <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com>
 16) RE: Partially OFF (ML)
	by Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
 17) Re: A review-sparked rant
	by Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
 18) Re: A review-sparked rant 
	by Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
 19) Re: Sudden thoughts + Companions
	by Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
 20) Re: (ML) Partially OFF
	by Rainwing-+AT+-aol.com
 21) Re: (ML) Partially OFF
	by Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
 22) Re: Partially OFF
	by Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
 23) Re: Sudden thoughts + Companions
	by Val <cvayl-+AT+-singnet.com.sg>
 24) Greetings and Fellicitations
	by "wytewinds" <wytewinds-+AT+-bnoc.net>

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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:48:36 +0000
From: dennis-+AT+-jmf.org.ph
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Temperment & Main Characters
Message-ID: <MDAEMON-F200002280012.AA120745MD42564-+AT+-amdg.com.ph>

I amuse myself sometimes when I'm reading and try to figure out the 
personality types of some of the different characters.  After the 
comment about Vanyel's introversion, I got to thinking about some of 
the main characters of Misty's that I was familiar with.  Is it just 
me, or are most of her main characters introverts?  Varying degrees, 
of course, but most of them don't seem to be anything like a party 
animal.  A few close friends, need solitude; yep, seem like 
introverts to me!

Off-topic here.  Let me put in a plug for the Keirsey-Bates 
Temperment sorter.  It can be very helpful both in work and in 
personal relationships.  It allowed my mother (a raving extrovert) to 
see that there was nothing wrong with me when I would rather stay 
home than run around all the time.  She backed off and let me choose 
the things I was really interested in.

Hey Val, greetings from a fellow INTP.

Runewind


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:06:59 -0600
From: "Phoenix, Guardian of Harmony" <tzarius-+AT+-ecsis.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <000f01bf8145$10520340$9d0d9ace-+AT+-tzarius>

For myself, when I was 16, it was the LHM series that made me realize a lot
about life. I had never thought anything but bad about gays and lesbians.
But after reading a lot of those, it dawned on me. "They're people
too....... and I'm one." I had never thought of the possibility of being gay
until I read. It still surprises me sometimes. but anyway, that's just my
.02

Fireheart k'Vala
God of New Homes



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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:01:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Sudden thoughts + Companions
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002271247440.18460-100000-+AT+-slc.edu>

Wow, this thing is addictive... :)

I just thought of something in light of all of the people who say that
Misty changed thier views on homosexuality:

My sister is 4 years younger than I (just turned 14). She has read a lot
of my fantasy books as hand-me-downs but never any Misty.  Also, however,
she is considerably more biggoted than I. She believes the stereotypes and
I know that she looks down upon gays and probably doesn't even believe
lesbians exist, given her peers and my mother's encouragement (long
story).

Anyway, I was just thinking--what if I gave her a Misty book? (LHM of
course). I know this might cause some trouble in my home. My sister is
much more the social butterfly than I and more interested in
conformity.  It's entirely possible it won't work for her because she is
entrenched in all the stereotypes and my mother and stepfather encourage
them.  Also, my mom might get irritated with me if my sister were to
"tattle." So I am a bit conflicted, but I believe my sister is kind and
good, and it was at this age that I first saw all of this.  Granted, I
think things were quieter altogether (media-wise, and in my family) back
when I was my sister's age.  Hmmm...

Do you think I should give it a shot?

Second: (I'm not sure the name of the person who posted this...MDennis?)

> Proposed topic -- why would Companions come in the shape of horses, why
> not  as an another animal?  Can anyone suggest another useful shape
> (Besides a firecat) for a companion?  This should allow us some interesting 
> and entertaining speculation. 

I think it is pretty simple.  Horses are already an animal generally
considered to have a very human personality. Trust me on this, I have met
quite a few, and it's really true. They are wonderful (although I did not
always like them).  It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to
see them as just that much more...

Furthermore, the Herald can very easily take them everywhere. The only
other alternative I could think of (Firecats excluded, although I don't
know why cats are quite so special in this sense but I never finished the
proper trilogy (yet)) would be a dog, and you wouldn't see Vanyel making a
little dog follow him all over Valdemar on his rounds, would you?

Perhaps a wolf.... Yes, a wolf would work.

Erin


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:09:13 -0500
From: Paige <ppwalker-+AT+-sympatico.ca>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <38B97659.83F33C5B-+AT+-sympatico.ca>

MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
<snip>
> Proposed topic -- why would Companions come in the shape of horses, why not
> as an another animal?  Can anyone suggest another useful shape (Besides a
> firecat) for a companion?  This should allow us some interesting and
> entertaining speculation.

Rubrick explained the Companions "choice of shape" to Karal and
Alberich.  I believe he said that they were transportation, extra help
in a fight, are capable of going unnoticed - they're just white horses,
after all, people really notice Firecats and Bondbirds mainly because of
their size, and you can't ride a Firecat or a Bondbird ;-)
-- 
Paige
Proud Mother of Victoria 04/24/98 and ??? 05/??/00
GO LEAFS!!!
Insert words of wisdom here.

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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:51:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Partially OFF
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002271543570.18460-100000-+AT+-slc.edu>

Off-topic, that is. I know I am a newbie but I have a suggestion. There is
nothing distinguishing about the mails from this list when I get
them--they are sent as if directly to me and not through an actual mail
server (this is different from other mailers I am on which have different
flags from these messages) and nothing in the subject line.

I am on a lot of lists and generally just get a lot of mail. I also can't
filter (in this mail client) by the reply-to address which would be the
only consistancy in all the mails.  So, I don't know if this has been
discussed before but would it be horrible to add some little thing like
[ML] to the mails? Most mailing list programs will do this automatically
but since this is run the way it is I don't know if it is a possibility.

Ob-Misty:

I will forever stew over one thing in LHM. No I'm not going to debate the
merits of 'Lendal vs Stef... but dammit... why doe Stef get the credit for
being Van's lover and get to meet up with him after death and all? Just
because 'Lendel Was A Very Bad Herald ? Stef was such a weaker
character. I want to kick Misty every time I read about this little part
of her writing. I know it is sacreligeous but damn it really makes me
mad. Yeah I know Stef is the later character, but isn't he just SUPPOSED
to be 'Lendel anyway? It's the same soul, eh?  Wouldn't it have added an
additional element of, "Wow, how weird and cool," if it ended up that
'Lendel reemerged?

I suppose one can argue that Van was able to get "over" 'Lendel through
Stef, though.  It still really irks me.

Erin (Yeah I'm forever stuck on this trilogy. ;)


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:15:39 -0600
From: Amy Trujillo <trujillo-+AT+-southwind.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Partially OFF (ML)
Message-ID: <38B993FB.6B234C28-+AT+-southwind.net>

Heyla listsibs,

Wow when did the list wake up!!! this is more like it *grins*

Erin Lewy wrote:

> I will forever stew over one thing in LHM. No I'm not going to debate the
> merits of 'Lendal vs Stef... but dammit... why doe Stef get the credit for
> being Van's lover and get to meet up with him after death and all? Just
> because 'Lendel Was A Very Bad Herald ? Stef was such a weaker
> character. I want to kick Misty every time I read about this little part
> of her writing. I know it is sacreligeous but damn it really makes me
> mad. Yeah I know Stef is the later character, but isn't he just SUPPOSED
> to be 'Lendel anyway? It's the same soul, eh?  Wouldn't it have added an
> additional element of, "Wow, how weird and cool," if it ended up that
> 'Lendel reemerged?

Hmm, I think the answer to that is simple when you think about it, the Stef
personality of the soul would have been stronger simply because it lived
longer.  Lendel died when he was what, 20 or so? Stef lived to be a very old
man he would have much more life experience and he was the "last"
reincarnation of that soul.  Misty also did show that the two were one with
the hair and physical features constantly changing.  Another thing to think
about, despite the fact that Van loved Lendel immensely those memories were
always tainted with the pain and tragedy of Lendel's death and the preceding
events.  By letting the spirit stay mostly Stef there would be a bit less
baggage.  Still I think the spirit stayed Stef just because it was the form
that had been around the longest.

On another note I don't know how many of you check on the "Ask Misty" section
in Firebird but did any of the rest of you note that Misty is going to be
doing a full book on Alberich's early life after she finishes the one on
Skiff? When I read that I practically jumped out of my chair, he is one of my
favorite supporting characters and one of the most mysterious it will be great
to learn more about him.

Hmm, I think that's all I have to say except that I can't wait for Brightly
Burning to be released in May!

Amy
Ferret Friend
Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:50:35 EST
From: Emzodie-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <64.a7e0de.25eb043b-+AT+-aol.com>

can someone please tell me what LHM series is.

chelby

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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:53:17 EST
From: Emzodie-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sudden thoughts + Companions
Message-ID: <c3.249ccdf.25eb04dd-+AT+-aol.com>

<  I was just thinking--what if I gave her a Misty book? >>
most defenatly give her the books to read. go for it.  write asnd let me know 
how it worked.

chelby

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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:40:09 EST
From: PsionicElf-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <c3.24c170b.25eb0fd9-+AT+-aol.com>

LHM = Last Herald Mage. Vanyel Askeveron     

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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:49:29 -0600
From: "Susan Hauschild" <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Partially OFF (ML)
Message-ID: <000001bf817d$4ad2fe60$408653d1-+AT+-susan>

> Heyla listsibs,
<snip>

> On another note I don't know how many of you check on the "Ask
> Misty" section
> in Firebird but did any of the rest of you note that Misty is going to be
> doing a full book on Alberich's early life after she finishes the one on
> Skiff? When I read that I practically jumped out of my chair, he
> is one of my favorite supporting characters and one of the most mysterious
it will be great to learn more about him.

That's great!  Alberich is also one of my favorite characters and I've been
hoping, particularly since the treaty with Karse was introduced, that he
would get his own series, or at least a one-shot...I also didn't know about
the one on Skif--is that Brightly Burning, the one everyone has been talking
about?  Forgive me, I have to admit that keeping up isn't my strong suit :)

It seems with every book she writes, she opens up new areas for later
books...I haven't read OwlKnight yet, but the 'barbarians' introduced in the
previous book definitely piqued my curiousity...but I'm so glad she's going
back to some of the older characters that seem to need their stories told.
Another one (see if anyone remembers him) is Griffon...not a major player,
but he had possibilities, particularly with his Talent for Firestarting.
Any opinions?

Susan
>
> Hmm, I think that's all I have to say except that I can't wait
> for Brightly
> Burning to be released in May!
>
> Amy
> Ferret Friend
> Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks
>
>


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:52:42 -0600
From: "Susan Hauschild" <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <000101bf817d$bdeec460$408653d1-+AT+-susan>

LHM is the Last Herald Mage series about Vanyel--Magic's Pawn, Magic's
Price, and another one I can't remember.  Gotta admit (you're all gonna hate
me for this one) I never cared for it...but then I'm no big fan of Elspeth's
either (I just gotta be different, don't I?)...

Susan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
> [mailto:mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk]On Behalf Of Emzodie-+AT+-aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 5:13 PM
> To: susan-+AT+-tseinc.com
> Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
>
>
> can someone please tell me what LHM series is.
>
> chelby
>


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:53:39 EST
From: PsionicElf-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <36.2a275b1.25eb1303-+AT+-aol.com>

I am sooo sorry, I forgot that one liners were looked down upon. so I am 
sending this to whoever I may have annoyed. <blush>

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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:16:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002271843280.18991-100000-+AT+-slc.edu>

On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 Emzodie-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> can someone please tell me what LHM series is.

The Last Herald-Mage. MPawn/MPrice/MPromise

I am, as we speak, ordering them with that gift certificate money for my
sister.  A little Misty goes a long way. ;)

Question for you guys:
What is this new novel coming out that I heard mentioned: "Brightly
Burning"?  There is absolutely nothing on it on Amazon.com other than a
date of expected publication and a price.... What series? Is this the
Skiff novel?

Erin (who is sorry this took a long time to answer so someone may have
already feilded the question but I got a LONG phone call)


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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:16:48 -0600
From: Amy Trujillo <trujillo-+AT+-southwind.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <38B9CC80.A0107C2E-+AT+-southwind.net>

Heyla listsibs

Erin Lewy wrote:

> What is this new novel coming out that I heard mentioned: "Brightly
> Burning"?  There is absolutely nothing on it on Amazon.com other than a
> date of expected publication and a price.... What series? Is this the
> Skiff novel?

Nope, Brightly Burning is going to be the story of Levan Firestorm the
firestarter that is talked about in The Arrows series when Talia and Griffon
are getting their training.  He called down a firestorm to save Valdemar
from a Dark Army after his Companion was killed.  Its one of those stories
where you already know the ending but still want to know what really
happens.  I was thrilled when Misty said she was writing this book now I
just wish someone could persuade her to write Sunsinger and Shadowdancer's
tale or the story of the Founding but she has stated that she will never
writing those stories since she prefers to keep some things mythical.

Ack, two posts in one day the world is coming to an end for this lurker!

Chocolate pineapple ice cream sheep to everyone!

Amy
Ferret Friend
Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks



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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:12:59 -0600
From: "Susan Hauschild" <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <000001bf8191$561ac820$408653d1-+AT+-susan>

> Nope, Brightly Burning is going to be the story of Levan Firestorm the
> firestarter that is talked about in The Arrows series when Talia
> and Griffon are getting their training.  He called down a firestorm to
save Valdemar from a Dark Army after his Companion was killed.  Its one of
those stories where you already know the ending but still want to know what
really happens.

I don't know...everyone thought they knew the end of Vanyel's story from the
Arrows books, didn't they?  'Til she wrote it! :)    Does anyone know
anything more about the Skif or Alberich books?




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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:18:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: RE: Partially OFF (ML)
Message-ID: <20000228031843.24678.qmail-+AT+-web906.mail.yahoo.com>

helya listsibs,
I can't wait for misty to bring out her next book. 
my personal favorite is the mage winds series and I'd
like to see more of Darkwind and Elspeth.
something on what happend to Darkwind before the mage
winds triolgy (that's if it already hasn't been done)

I would like to say congrats to Misty for such amazing
books!!!!!!

later.

Trainee-Herald Elle

--- Susan Hauschild <susan-+AT+-tseinc.com> wrote:
> > Heyla listsibs,
> <snip>
> 
> > On another note I don't know how many of you check
> on the "Ask
> > Misty" section
> > in Firebird but did any of the rest of you note
> that Misty is going to be
> > doing a full book on Alberich's early life after
> she finishes the one on
> > Skiff? When I read that I practically jumped out
> of my chair, he
> > is one of my favorite supporting characters and
> one of the most mysterious
> it will be great to learn more about him.
> 
> That's great!  Alberich is also one of my favorite
> characters and I've been
> hoping, particularly since the treaty with Karse was
> introduced, that he
> would get his own series, or at least a one-shot...I
> also didn't know about
> the one on Skif--is that Brightly Burning, the one
> everyone has been talking
> about?  Forgive me, I have to admit that keeping up
> isn't my strong suit :)
> 
> It seems with every book she writes, she opens up
> new areas for later
> books...I haven't read OwlKnight yet, but the
> 'barbarians' introduced in the
> previous book definitely piqued my curiousity...but
> I'm so glad she's going
> back to some of the older characters that seem to
> need their stories told.
> Another one (see if anyone remembers him) is
> Griffon...not a major player,
> but he had possibilities, particularly with his
> Talent for Firestarting.
> Any opinions?
> 
> Susan
> >
> > Hmm, I think that's all I have to say except that
> I can't wait
> > for Brightly
> > Burning to be released in May!
> >
> > Amy
> > Ferret Friend
> > Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:35:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant
Message-ID: <20000228033519.2418.qmail-+AT+-web902.mail.yahoo.com>

heyla listsibs,
I can only say that companions should stay horses!!!

Elle

--- Paige <ppwalker-+AT+-sympatico.ca> wrote:
> MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> <snip>
> > Proposed topic -- why would Companions come in the
> shape of horses, why not
> > as an another animal?  Can anyone suggest another
> useful shape (Besides a
> > firecat) for a companion?  This should allow us
> some interesting and
> > entertaining speculation.
> 
> Rubrick explained the Companions "choice of shape"
> to Karal and
> Alberich.  I believe he said that they were
> transportation, extra help
> in a fight, are capable of going unnoticed - they're
> just white horses,
> after all, people really notice Firecats and
> Bondbirds mainly because of
> their size, and you can't ride a Firecat or a
> Bondbird ;-)
> -- 
> Paige
> Proud Mother of Victoria 04/24/98 and ??? 05/??/00
> GO LEAFS!!!
> Insert words of wisdom here.
> 
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:03:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: A review-sparked rant 
Message-ID: <20000228040315.23033.qmail-+AT+-web904.mail.yahoo.com>

heyla listsibs!
as someone who is both shay'a'chern and "straight"
(sorry to use that stereotypical word but I am too
tired to think) I am delighted by misty's open mind
and all the open minds of our listsibs.
Also it's good that she writes women as strong and the
equals in heroisim as men.

wind to thy wings
Trainee-Herald/Mage Elle Fallingstar

--- PsionicElf-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> Heyla everyone!
> 
> I can't believe someone could come out with
> something so moronic. Actually, 
> wait I do beliece it! As a someone who is
> shay'a'chern, I am really happy to 
> see that fellow list members are not identified to
> us as shaych are not happy 
> with this. I've always liked Misty because how well
> she portrays different 
> people. She is not focussed on some big macho man
> running around saving 
> helpless women! (As if women are sooo helpless!) She
> shows women of strength, 
> people of different cultures getting along, and yes,
> positive shaych 
> characters. How can anyone read her books and not be
> cool with that!
> 
> Wind to thy wings,
> Jao Rap'cher
> 
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:42:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Rochelle White <rhiannon_leigh17-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sudden thoughts + Companions
Message-ID: <20000228034251.3568.qmail-+AT+-web902.mail.yahoo.com>

ok I think stereo types suck so just give your sister
the book and hope for the best!!!
Trainee-Herald Elle

--- Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu> wrote:
> Wow, this thing is addictive... :)
> 
> I just thought of something in light of all of the
> people who say that
> Misty changed thier views on homosexuality:
> 
> My sister is 4 years younger than I (just turned
> 14). She has read a lot
> of my fantasy books as hand-me-downs but never any
> Misty.  Also, however,
> she is considerably more biggoted than I. She
> believes the stereotypes and
> I know that she looks down upon gays and probably
> doesn't even believe
> lesbians exist, given her peers and my mother's
> encouragement (long
> story).
> 
> Anyway, I was just thinking--what if I gave her a
> Misty book? (LHM of
> course). I know this might cause some trouble in my
> home. My sister is
> much more the social butterfly than I and more
> interested in
> conformity.  It's entirely possible it won't work
> for her because she is
> entrenched in all the stereotypes and my mother and
> stepfather encourage
> them.  Also, my mom might get irritated with me if
> my sister were to
> "tattle." So I am a bit conflicted, but I believe my
> sister is kind and
> good, and it was at this age that I first saw all of
> this.  Granted, I
> think things were quieter altogether (media-wise,
> and in my family) back
> when I was my sister's age.  Hmmm...
> 
> Do you think I should give it a shot?
> 
> Second: (I'm not sure the name of the person who
> posted this...MDennis?)
> 
> > Proposed topic -- why would Companions come in the
> shape of horses, why
> > not  as an another animal?  Can anyone suggest
> another useful shape
> > (Besides a firecat) for a companion?  This should
> allow us some interesting 
> > and entertaining speculation. 
> 
> I think it is pretty simple.  Horses are already an
> animal generally
> considered to have a very human personality. Trust
> me on this, I have met
> quite a few, and it's really true. They are
> wonderful (although I did not
> always like them).  It doesn't take a huge stretch
> of the imagination to
> see them as just that much more...
> 
> Furthermore, the Herald can very easily take them
> everywhere. The only
> other alternative I could think of (Firecats
> excluded, although I don't
> know why cats are quite so special in this sense but
> I never finished the
> proper trilogy (yet)) would be a dog, and you
> wouldn't see Vanyel making a
> little dog follow him all over Valdemar on his
> rounds, would you?
> 
> Perhaps a wolf.... Yes, a wolf would work.
> 
> Erin
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:42:25 EST
From: Rainwing-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: (ML) Partially OFF
Message-ID: <e8.208711d.25eb64c1-+AT+-aol.com>

Heyla and bright greetings, list-sibs!

And there was much celebration...
    :::Rainwing enters the Hall quietly humming her favorite Misty filk to 
herself.  She removes her cloak, shakes the rainwater out of her hair, and 
grabs a sheep-towel to dry off.  She calls a joyous greeting through the hall 
and grins widely as it is enthusiastically returned.  She starts to sing 
louder and is immediately joined by a chorus of voices sounding throughout 
the Hall.  This starts a Misty sing-a-long that lasts quite awhile...(good 
thing I brought my guitar).  She breaks out the sheep-shaped marshmallows, 
chocolate bars, and graham crackers...time for sheep s'mores!  And some Chava 
for good measure!  After all the singing and dancing dies down, she settles 
back onto a huge fluffy sheep-pillow next to some list-sibs to chat and 
listen to the sweet sound of the rain.:::     

<< It's the same soul, eh?  Wouldn't it have added an
 additional element of, "Wow, how weird and cool," if it ended up that
 'Lendel reemerged?
  >>
    Well, Misty actually did something of this kind.  Van and Stef/'Lendel 
make a cameo appearance in Storm Breaking...(of course Van has to help save 
the world even though he's been dead for over 600 years).  Here is the quote 
on page 388...
    
     "The first (spirit) to become really clear was a strikingly handsome 
man, and if this was Firesong's ancestor, Vanyel, it was obvious where he got 
his beauty." (snip)     "As the second spirit manifested, Karal didn't find 
him any easier on the nerves, perhaps because he couldn't seem to make up his 
mind whether to look like a muscular, square-jawed fellow who was a bit 
taller than Vanyel, or a slight, triangular-faced, large eyed lad who was 
shorter and more slender than the Herald-Mage."

    Hmm, come to think of it Van makes a fairly large cameo in WoFury too.  
How come Van's been dead for so long and he gets to appear in, and have a 
considerable affect on the outcome of, these books?  I guess I just can't 
understand the fascination with LHM.  I say bring in Talia, Elspeth and 
Darkwind, or Kero.  They need more time too.  
    
    Speaking of them, I think it's time to talk about favorite female 
characters now.  So how 'bout it?  I really like them all, but Selenay and 
Talia are my favorites.  I like T&K, but they have to be together or its not 
the same.  

    On the Alberich book:
      I would love to hear more about him.  He is a great character.  If 
Misty wrote about the treaty with Karse she could incorporate the story of 
how Talia became a Sun-Priestess and how Solaris became Son of the Sun.  

Well, enough of my nighttime ramblings for now...Rasberry cheesecake sheep to 
all!

Rainwing k'Colira
Goddess of Left-handedness
Collector of all Sheep
and Black Sheep of the family
Singer of Illusions and proud to be an Alto
(hopeful) Knight of the OOUH, Champion of Selenay
<3 "The worst prison would be a closed heart" <3  -J.P.II 

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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:45:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Erin Lewy <elewy-+AT+-mail.slc.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: (ML) Partially OFF
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002280139430.18991-100000-+AT+-slc.edu>

>     Well, Misty actually did something of this kind.  Van and Stef/'Lendel 
> make a cameo appearance in Storm Breaking...(of course Van has to help save 
> the world even though he's been dead for over 600 years).  Here is the quote 
> on page 388...
<snip>

Okay, this is enough info for me--I've gotta finish this trilogy (and am
not reading the quote till I read it in print!) :)

> considerable affect on the outcome of, these books?  I guess I just can't 
> understand the fascination with LHM.  I say bring in Talia, Elspeth and 
> Darkwind, or Kero.  They need more time too.  

I agree with you--at least, Talia needs more space... if Van is allowed so
much, why does Talia only get 1-3 lines of, "Oh and by the way there is a
Queens Own Herald" stuff... oh well...

I think that probably Misty is just as attached to Van as many of her
readers are... That's my only explanation.
     
>     Speaking of them, I think it's time to talk about favorite female 
> characters now.  So how 'bout it?  I really like them all, but Selenay and 
> Talia are my favorites.  I like T&K, but they have to be together or its not 

Talia, Savil, Kero. :)
> 

<snip>

> how Talia became a Sun-Priestess and how Solaris became Son of the Sun.  

This has been done before. :) (the Solaris half of it, anyway.) Saying
more constitutes a spoiler...  go to your bookstore and look at the backs
of some recent Misty books... ;)

Oh well actually....it might not cover exactly what you're looking for, my
brain is foggy right now. :)


Erin

 


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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:58:07 GMT
From: Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Partially OFF
Message-ID: <200002280958.JAA25357-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>


> I am on a lot of lists and generally just get a lot of mail. I also can't
> filter (in this mail client) by the reply-to address which would be the
> only consistancy in all the mails.  So, I don't know if this has been
> discussed before but would it be horrible to add some little thing like
> [ML] to the mails? Most mailing list programs will do this automatically
> but since this is run the way it is I don't know if it is a possibility.
> 

This has been discussed quite a lot, but I'll repeat: it is _not_ possible 
with this particular software. We will be changing software in a couple
of months, though, to something which will be able to put in tags.

On the other hand, there are in fact at least two consistent features. One
is the Reply-To field, as you noted, another is "X-Comment: Mercedes Lackey
Mailing List", and if you can filter on "From" rather than "From:", that will
also be consistent.

Mel

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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:29:26 +0800
From: Val <cvayl-+AT+-singnet.com.sg>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sudden thoughts + Companions
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000228222926.007b1c20-+AT+-singnet.com.sg>

>Do you think I should give it a shot?

By all means. Better now than latter when she might just be even more
entrenched in bigotry. Optimistic view huh?

>and you wouldn't see Vanyel making a little dog follow him all over
Valdemar on his rounds, would you?

Heh heh... to tell the truth, I can't see a little dog following any of the
heralds around. Great big enormous dogs... maybe. Anyway, like gleaming
white 'horses' wouldn't stand out.
Val


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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:33:29 -0500
From: "wytewinds" <wytewinds-+AT+-bnoc.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Greetings and Fellicitations
Message-ID: <004201bf81f8$ea957880$adf919d0-+AT+-pavilion>

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