MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2322 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: trauma/pyromancer by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com 2) Re: an assortment by Pyrephox18-+AT+-aol.com 3) Vanyel and Eastern Empire by Sara Peek 4) Re: Elvensteeds and illness by "Barbara Martin" 5) Re: trauma/pyromancer/Black Swan by Amanda Carlston 6) Re: trauma/pyromancer/Black Swan by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com 7) SPOILER BRIGHTLY BURNING!! by moonshadow-+AT+-startrekmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:41:00 EDT From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: trauma/pyromancer Message-ID: <90.57021c9.26724dec-+AT+-aol.com> I also enjoy the Douglas brightglade character in the pyromancer series, but have only seen the first two pyromancer, aquamancer. are there others, and if so, could you please name them? I have been on the look out for more in this series for years. as far as the age things goes, i have been a misty fan for many seasons, since i first saw her arrows of the queen(when first published) out in a book store in the Muncie mall in Muncie Indiana. I especially went to river con at Louisville, KY to meet her, some years ago. Very much enjoyed it. I've been reading her stuff since the beginning and have been reading sf/fantasy for many years. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:15:59 EDT From: Pyrephox18-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: an assortment Message-ID: <42.69005c0.2672561f-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 6/9/00 2:27:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ambermoon_00-+AT+-yahoo.com writes: << On Black_Swan: I love Mercedes Lackey's books for their emotional power, humour, and for being good adventure stories. I generally feel that this makes up for the fact that stylistically they are generally heavy-handed and simplistic. (I feel LHM rises above this the most, one of the reasons I prize it as her best work.) However, IMHO, Black_Swan did not have enough good qualities to make up for the spell-everything-out and hit-us-over-the-head-with-a-sledgehammer style. I love "Swan Lake", and was disapointed in this adaptation.>> I've got to agree with this. I read it, and enjoyed about as much as I would a Harlequin... a bit of mildly stimulating fluff. In my case, I think it had more to do with the fact that I couldn't really identify or sympathise with any of the characters. Even the heroine was mildly distasteful, and the hero... well. << I also disliked Fire_Rose, for much the same reasons. I also was able to predict the entire book from somewhere around the first quarter, as well as finding some of the themes/messages disconcerting ("Beauty and the Beast" is in many ways a metaphor, and therefore saying that it's a good thing for a man to remain a beast did not sit well with me.) >> Now, see, I like this one for almost that exact same reason. But then, I've always wanted the Beast to stay a beast, and I had always considered the giant reset button at the end of the fairy tale to be a cop-out. It's like those "plain girl" movies where the girl is actually a knockout, she just needs some make up and clothes to make all the people who mocked her fall to their knees. And the lucky sod who saw it first (who was usually forced by a bet or something) gets the prize. It just strikes me a being a little cheap. So I liked Lackey's handling of it. Pyrephox ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:32:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Sara Peek To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Vanyel and Eastern Empire Message-ID: <20000609183239.22795.qmail-+AT+-web4604.mail.yahoo.com> Just to raise a question, did Withen have to be Van's father? MPawn said he took after his mother, but I think that meant courtly ways, not looks. However, there was never any mention of an affair. There is a mention of a mercenary group called Pedron's Wolves in Black Gryphon on page 45. I'll bet some chocolate-covered sheep that they founded the Eastern Empire. Wind to thy Wings, and sheep with cotton T-shirts, Sara, Herald-Mage Rini, Chosen by Cinna Hope for the best, Expect the worst, Life is a play, We're unrehearsed! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:52:26 +0100 From: "Barbara Martin" To: Subject: Re: Elvensteeds and illness Message-ID: <00e301bfd25d$a89fce20$d11a893e-+AT+-master> Hey, here's a thought - they take the form of bikes or cars so the engine problems can be fixed and the illness goes away? ;-) I just bought Owlsight in import paperback today, and finally Children of the Night. I'm just waiting for Kulture Shock to get When the Bough Breaks in stock then I'll be up to date on everything except Bard's Tale (nearly impossible to find), Owlknight and Brightly Burning. I'm rather glad I've now got time to read them. ~Babs refusing to enter into any discussion on the problems of dyslexia and spell checkers because I know very little about either (I hate my spell checker) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:59:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda Carlston To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: trauma/pyromancer/Black Swan Message-ID: <20000609215942.17498.qmail-+AT+-web1601.mail.yahoo.com> --- MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > I also enjoy the Douglas brightglade character in > the pyromancer series, but > have only seen the first two pyromancer, aquamancer. > are there others, and > if so, could you please name them? I have been on > the look out for more in > this series for years. GREAT series. I compliment you on your good taste. Well, we all knew you had good taste in the first place. That's why you like Misty, right? ~_^ There are four books in the series so far. Pyromancer Aquamancer Geomancer Aeromancer My other favorite series currently is the Prince of the Sidhe trilogy (supposedly, at least) by Josepha Sherman. But the last book in the series was three years ago. I know there can be lag between books, but this is bloody rediculous! > as far as the age things goes, i have been a misty > fan for many seasons, > since i first saw her arrows of the queen(when first > published) out in a book > store in the Muncie mall in Muncie Indiana. I > especially went to river con > at Louisville, KY to meet her, some years ago. Very > much enjoyed it. I've > been reading her stuff since the beginning and have > been reading sf/fantasy > for many years. Yours truely is 23 years old, a recent graduate of Ripon College in Ripon, WI. I can tell you this because I'm not there anymore. :) Really, I'm from Las Vegas. :) I started reading Misty by accident in the ninth grade when I picked up Chrome Circle. I thought it was going to be a stupid book (my other choice at the time was Nine Princes in Amber...Roger Zelazny. GREAT author as well), but I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong. Then I had to go back and read all the elf books (I LOVE ELVES! Sorry, had to get that out), and then I got to Arrows. I, for one, personally LIKED the Black Swan. Maybe I liked it because I'm doing a bit of research for a story I'm working on. But I liked seeing the fact that everyone had faults. That's usually not something you find in a hero and heroine of a story. I don't think that Siegfried or Odette quite qualified for the hero/heroine department. That was definately Odile, who I liked a lot. Anyway, that's my $.02. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:23:08 EDT From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: trauma/pyromancer/Black Swan Message-ID: <6b.56286a5.2672f27c-+AT+-aol.com> Liked black swan as well. Will try to get the rest of the --mancer series... I also have prince of the sidhe as well. liked the first one better than the second, and you are correct it's been awhile since there's been anything new that I've noticed in that series. Thank you for listing the titles for me. Does anyone know if there were any more novels in the bastard princess series by Claudia Edward's? I've been reading sf/fantasy longer than many people on this list... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:24:47 -0400 (EDT) From: moonshadow-+AT+-startrekmail.com To: Misty List Subject: SPOILER BRIGHTLY BURNING!! Message-ID: <000609222447E4.24715-+AT+-weba6.iname.net> Okay, I just finished BB, spoiler space follows: S P O I L E R S P A C E Okay, I hope my email system translates all those returns between the letters....sometimes it ignores them, so I apologize if there isn't as much space as there should be. Anyway, I just finished reading BB, and I have a few comments. First, this is the first Misty book I've read since the Storms trilogy. I am so glad that she didn't write it the way she did Winds and Storms, with the point of view changing every chapter. When I first read of Lavan in Arrows of the Queen, I had in my mind a mental picture of him and of what happened to him. I must say that it was completely different than what Misty envisioned. I always thought Lavan would be older and more experienced. I always pictured him as being more like Van in appearance and reputation, even in how he died (alone, heroically). I never pictured him as dying only a few months after he was Chosen. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it said exactly how long he was at the Collegium, and I got the impression that it was only about a year or so, even less, perhaps. It seemed to me that Misty rushed this. I wish she had explored Lavan's relationship with Kalira before killing them off. I mean, Lavan didn't even realize that he was lifebonded to his Companion. This is an incredible story, with so much material that it almost seems a waste to put it into one book. It could easily have been a trilogy, in my opinion. And most of the action was packed into the last few chapters. Don't get me wrong...I liked the book, but I can't help but feel disappointed. She could have done so much more. The only parallel I could draw from the brevity of her book is to the brevity of Lavan's life....what's that quote? the one about how great lives "burn brightly" but are then gone as quickly as they came. (I'm really reaching here...) The Companions don't seem so private and mysterious as they do in the other books, and I really liked that part of the novel. And Rolan! That was an interesting touch. He's over 300 years old by Arrows! Anyway, I'm sure I'll think of more to say later, but what do you guys think??? WTTW, Herald Jacquelle ------------------------------- Beam to http://www.StarTrek.com The official site of the Star Trek universe ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2322 **********************************