MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2327 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Companions by "Abigail Laughlin" 2) Re: Companions by "David H. Tiffany" 3) Re: Companions by Julia Gray 4) a slight B*t*h fest by Freedom Walker 5) ML names, F.Ring, Rolan, location by Freedom Walker 6) 'Membering Companions(tired) by Jaec Songblade 7) Council of Mist and other things by Sara Peek 8) Re: 'Membering Companions(tired) by Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: 'Membering Companions(tired) by troll-+AT+-netcomuk.co.uk 10) Re: 'Membering Companions(tired) by Ryoko 11) Items Various by "Misty's Secretary" 12) Re: Items Various by Pyrephox18-+AT+-aol.com 13) Re: Items Various by ShadowDreamer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:11:44 GMT From: "Abigail Laughlin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companions Message-ID: <20000614161144.92122.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> <> Most likely, the cat is out of the bag, and the Companions aren't going to be able to force it back in. As Bob Dylan said, the times, they are a-changin'; the Companions will have to do the same in order to keep up. Remember, nobody wiped Karal's mind, and he made a few revelations as to what Companions are. Not did Quenten forget when he saw what Gwena and Cymry were in WoFate. I think it's very likely that the Companions are going have to start being less secretive and managing, more open and honest. Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, Member of the Mistic Circle, Webmaster of the Circle of Stone, Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes; http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ - The Labyrinth ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:26:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "David H. Tiffany" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companions Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Abigail Laughlin wrote: (In response to this) > < Borders and mages popping up (since mages are generally the only ones who > can tell they're not just fancy horses). Would the Companions > make the mages forget they see something?>> > > Most likely, the cat is out of the bag, and the Companions aren't going to > be able to force it back in. [snip] > I think it's very likely that the Companions are going have to start being > less secretive and managing, more open and honest. But was this "Guardian Spirit" thing common knowledge in Valdemar before Vanyel's time? Any text-ev on that from LHM? If it wasn't, presumably the Companions could repeat whatever tricks they used then, if they so choose. David H Tiffany, Glot tofu typos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:23:25 -0500 From: Julia Gray To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companions Message-ID: <3947DBAD.5BE451DE-+AT+-oakton.edu> Someone wrote (bad delete key): > > < > Borders and mages popping up (since mages are generally the only ones who > > can tell they're not just fancy horses). Would the Companions > > make the mages forget they see something?>> > > Couldn't those close to the spiritual realm also tell - like a Shinain (sp) shaman? As I recall a shaman decided NOT to tell the Heralds because they didn't want to interfere with the prerogative of another God - I've wondered if some of the magicians (those of a level/experience to tell) also thought that way.... actually, isn't that what Griffon decides as well? In other words, Companions may not have to actively make people "forget" that they are spirit beings, those in the know may decide it's a matter of prudence not to tell others of their discovery. As manipulative as the companions have been, it could be that there are things they don't necessarily actively manipulate ... rather, they may take advantage of a given situation. *sending bouncing sheep that sing show tunes to all who want 'em* Beta'lis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Freedom Walker To: Misty List Subject: a slight B*t*h fest Message-ID: <20000614211213.19009.qmail-+AT+-web1103.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla list and wow.... I just got done going through 700 messages because I've been unable due to the wedding and then difficulties with my pregnancy to check BOTH mailing addresses I have... my other one takes priority having more list's and friends writing to it... a few things I noticed in going through all these messages... *taking up soapbox hoping not to be flamed or too obnoxious about it... but things that no one else seem's bold enough to say. blatent disregard from certain people per the requests to only snip RELEVENT text related to what they wished to actually quote and answer... that means if you are answering a question either copy and paste that question or rewrite it with the persons name... NOT TO POST THE WHOLE BLASTED LETTER THAT IS 6K LONG TO BEGIN WITH.... thanx an amazing amound on ONE LINERS and one paragraph messages that could have cut the amazingly high amount of time and MONEY I had to spend to GET those 700 messages.... if they were BRAIDED!!!!!!!!! BTW people gas prices in northern indiana are $1.97 per gallon now... that means if I don't CONSERVE my money I won't make it to my prenatle exams or the hospital... which I've almost miscarried four times so it's a little important to me... all the money I spent could have paid for two week's worth of gas for us... thanx okay and people TRYING to use HTML code to POST to the list... it DOESN'T COME OUT AS HTML CODE for my mailing server... it put's it into simple text, then all the quoting a few of these certain people did.... WITHOUT SNIPING I MIGHT ADD, THEN my server puts the BROKEN html coded text in, then curtiously ADDS THOSE UNSNIPPED QUOTES AGAIN.... of course broken becuase the person/people, forgot to "CLOSE" the html coding from the rest of the text.... I had to go through paragraph after paragraph of THIS ---> text quote quote quote quote signature broken html text quote quote quote quote signature There is NOTHING wrong with my server, NOR my provider NOR my computer... it's just NOT set up to automatically decode and display html... I KNOW I'm not the only one who suffered through this... thanx Also... these things happen to be COVERED AND CLEARLY STATED IN THE NEWBIE FEST... I don't like paying becuase people decided to skip reading it... I don't have the addy but I'm sure someone could supply it (please I want it for my web page which I'll cover later) and if those people had READ that page they would KNOW how rude it is to disreguard all that's been said about it as I've noticed people have been... no one should be exempt from these things... and If I break them please flame me... PLEASE LET ME KNOW. that way I can IMPROVE MY POSTS and be curtoius instead of appearing with an attitude onlist.... You know if we could put ML in a subject line I would have to have a whole different D**n e-mail address just for THIS list. I could actually only have to check one place (which would be a relief) my contemplations of unsubbing from the list after what like five years on would stop and I would be able to check the list often enough that I wasn't answering or posting from months ago.... but then I don't have room to talk sense I have hardly any respect or notice or voice on this list at all anyway.... I guess that's what I get for staying ON for so long instead of off and on and off and on... you think loyalty and persistance for the better of the list for five years of continued observance and posting would be rewarded by some notice..... nope not one person that I "know" or even anyone who remembers me says a hello or you go girl or even makes a comment edgewise my way.... sense this is going to be long enough I think I'll leave this relevent to my B*t*h fest and post on the misty and web page on a seperate one... otherwise this would be "too long" of a braid.... >From the Desk of, Captain Freedom Justice Walker of the FireSister __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:48:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Freedom Walker To: Misty List Subject: ML names, F.Ring, Rolan, location Message-ID: <20000614214807.15201.qmail-+AT+-web1105.mail.yahoo.com> someone mentioned how Misty picks her names... well no one could be sure but here's what I've always done I have a list with 2,000 names on it it's hardly little... but I chop, mix, respell, add letters (especially i's and y's and c's and such) and make strange but pretty names that way... it's easy... and no I've got a good long list of names so when I know what my character will be "like" I can pick a good name... Who would I talk to so I could become the official tracker and ?keeper? of the Friendship Ring... just to make it all official... and oh gosh I forgot to even inquire if it was OKAY for me to make a site for the ring.....???? help? Rolan and his choosing has me confused... okay so if he "usually" or would "usually have" chosen someone who was already chosen... would that give that person TWO companions do you thing? or would the origional leave the bond? or would Rolan "pass the title" so to speak to the other companion? I seem to remember someone mentioning that the first companin bond wouldn't be that strong and Rolan would just take over... who think's that's likelyest? I am starting a page like I said I would AGES ago of who has worn the new Friendship Ring... current bearer and so forth... please send me all the relevent information on the ring (colors metals effects) and such... and anyone who's had the ring please let me know if you are not on here or if you want me to add some info about you e-mails me privately..... http://members.coolchat.com/coolpages/Aspen/3241.html Icewolf curtiously forgot to pass the ring on... I was unable to be online for ahwile so couldn't send a reminder so I have written a friendly note requesting permission to pass it on Icewolf's behalf... if unanswered I shall do so anyway but it would be nicer to ask first... >>Something else I would like to know: Where does everyone live?<< Northern Indiana in South Bend for now... Planning to move south... ANYWHERE south... Well baby is kicking away and I'm hungry so I'm going to go bake some sheep shape double chocolate cookies with strawberries somewhere in the mix.... >From the Desk of, Captain Freedom Justice Walker of the FireSisters __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaec Songblade To: MLML Subject: 'Membering Companions(tired) Message-ID: <20000614223852.15515.qmail-+AT+-web4804.mail.yahoo.com> --0-424238335-961022332=:13346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello People!!! 'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean? " Heyla! Just real quick... *Why* don't Companions want Heralds to know they're guardian-spirits? And do they affect the minds of everyone in Valdemar, not just the Heralds? If they don't, I was wondering what will happen now that magic is allowed inside the Borders and mages popping up (since mages are generally the only ones who can tell they're not just fancy horses). Would the Companions make the mages forget they see something? Elhith" What the Companions didn't want them to know was that they (Companions) were reborn Heralds. And now that that fact has been uncovered, there is no reason why the Companions should make the mages forget. ( I hope that makes sense ;) ) Really happy colored sheep to all!!(Summer's here) Jaec Songblade --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! --0-424238335-961022332=:13346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello People!!!
'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean?

" Heyla! Just real quick...

*Why* don't Companions want Heralds to know they're

guardian-spirits? And do they affect the minds of everyone in

Valdemar, not just the Heralds? If they don't, I was wondering what

will happen now that magic is allowed inside the Borders and

mages popping up (since mages are generally the only ones who

can tell they're not just fancy horses). Would the Companions

make the mages forget they see something?

Elhith"

What the Companions didn't want them to know was that they

(Companions) were reborn Heralds. And now that that fact has been uncovered, there

is no reason why the Companions should make the mages forget. ( I hope that

makes sense ;) )
Really happy colored sheep to all!!(Summer's here)
Jaec Songblade

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Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! --0-424238335-961022332=:13346-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Sara Peek To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Council of Mist and other things Message-ID: <20000614231205.26905.qmail-+AT+-web4602.mail.yahoo.com> Just to be curious, how and why do people become Councillors of Mist? Not that I'm shooting for it, but I like to know the details. Could someone please fill me in? Also, the E-groups page decided that it wouldn't show me Queen's Circle, and instead enrolled me in a religious group called, incidentally, _Circle. I know you said it workd, Kero, but *I* can't find it! Congrats on your baby, Freedom Walker. I can sympathize with the 700 messages. My e-mail is at the library, and I don't check it that often. Sara, Herald-Mage Rini Chosen by Cinna Princess of Many Annoying Topics __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed Jun 14 19:40:39 2000 From: Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com To: Subject: Re: 'Membering Companions(tired) Message-ID: <200006142348.AAA07443-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> >> Hello People!!! 'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean? I believe it is Japanese -- but not sure of the meaning. I thought "O-hio" was hello. My Korean is better, so I will say, "Yoboseyo, annyong, hashimnika?" Pam, who goes by Map ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:28:01 +0100 (BST) From: troll-+AT+-netcomuk.co.uk To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 'Membering Companions(tired) Message-ID: <200061512918541-+AT+-netcomuk.co.uk> On 06/15/00 01:30:52 Pam wrote: >>'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean? > >I believe it is Japanese -- but not sure of the meaning. I thought "O-hio" was hello. The troll is not Japanese either, but has a smattering of the language... I thought "Konichi-wa" was hello. "Ohio", to the best of my knowledge, is an American state :) No ObMisty this time, since such a short post...will do better next time ;) Trollhugs and chocolate sheep, Muranog Shadowbane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:50:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryoko To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 'Membering Companions(tired) Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > >> > Hello People!!! > 'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean? > I believe it is Japanese -- but not sure of the meaning. I thought "O-hio" was hello. My Korean is better, so I will say, "Yoboseyo, annyong, hashimnika?" It's "Wakarimashita" and it is Japanese, and it means "Understood" in English. <<--Ryoko-->> ||Miko Titles: Toroki no Miko, Duo no Miko, Nataku no Miko|| |http://www.angband.org/~ryoko|Sakura's Anime Multimedia Page| ||"Dammit! I am not the Beer-Fairy!" --Mitch|| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:09:09 GMT From: "Misty's Secretary" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Items Various Message-ID: <20000615020910.42051.qmail-+AT+-hotmail.com> Hello to everyone! As you ought to be able to see from the "Name" section of this email, I'm acting as Misty's secretary. This is an experimental attempt by Misty and Highflight to have a more accessible public face. As such, I have subscribed to this list, and the major couple at egroups.com. The reason for using a hotmail.com email address is that should it be abused, we can drop the idea, and forget about it. Though sometimes it feels like I'm the last person to find things out with highflight, I can act as an information source; and a hopefully accurate means of keeping you up to date on news and such. One source of reference that is worth looking at if you haven't already is firebirdarts.com; as they tend to archive news material on Misty and her books. Forthcoming at some point in the near future we hope, and it seems likely that herald.co.uk will be hosting, is Misty's own website. No doubt I'll be trying to keep the information on there up to date as well. So.. a few points to make. 1> Don't ask personal or private questions; since if I choose to answer them, I almost certainly will do so in public. I don't really want to duplicate the "ask misty" section of firebird, since that's a perfectly good medium for asking questions of misty (in)directly. Questions about book releases, and pokes at the pedant in me for chapter and verse on text might work though. Especially if I can get my paws on a copy of the text in question. (Though no doubt somebody has hidden all copies of that item just to spite me). 2> I'm human. Please don't forget that. I make mistakes. If I'm busy explaining why vanyel was actually bright green I've probably made a mistake. Clearly I was thinking of Firesong. 3> I have a warped sense of humo(u)r. (See above). Live with it. 4> Misty does not read this or any other list herself. There are good reasons for this. 5> Please remember that though we would all like to have as much communication with the fans as possible, it's not actually what we do to make a living. Please bear with me as I am somewhat sporadic (especially when away from base) at getting to the email here. 6> A big thanks to Mel for making all this possible! Paul Fisher Business Manager, Highflight. >On 06/15/00 01:30:52 Pam wrote: > >>'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean? > > Wakarimasu would roughly mean "I don't understand that"; so Wakaremashita would mean something along the same lines - I think it's the opposite, so would mean, "I understand" or thereabouts. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:56:56 EDT From: Pyrephox18-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Items Various Message-ID: <22.717c7dc.26799ff8-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 6/14/00 10:42:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mistysdesk-+AT+-hotmail.com writes: << >On 06/15/00 01:30:52 Pam wrote: > >>'Wakaremashita.'?-what does that mean? > > Wakarimasu would roughly mean "I don't understand that";>> Wakarimasen is "I don't understand." Wakarimasu is "I understand." << so Wakaremashita would mean something along the same lines - I think it's the opposite, so would mean, "I understand" or thereabouts. >> -mashita is past tense. Although I missed the sentence this was originally in, I imagine the author meant "[I] Understood." ::grin:: BTW, welcome to the list! Pyrephox- glad to use even a little of the Japanese she's taken... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:44:07 -0600 From: ShadowDreamer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Items Various Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000614214407.00777c4c-+AT+-mail> Paul Fisher writes: >Hello to everyone! > >As you ought to be able to see from the "Name" section of this email, I'm >acting as Misty's secretary. This is an experimental attempt by Misty and >Highflight to have a more accessible public face. Welcome to the MLML! I recently read about you on Firebird Arts in connection with the auctions of beadwork, but certainly didn't expect to see you here! I hope you'll enjoy our strange but fun crew, and join in often. As far as Firesong being bright green... didn't he prefer hot pink? =) I distinctly remember that he wished to dye Aya that color. Kris among other names... Known to one and all as ShadowDreamer, formerly MorningStar Mindmate to the tawny eagle Ryia! Original Member of the Order of Unsung Heros (http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/oouh/) shadskitty-+AT+-home.com morningstar-+AT+-poetic.com Web page is moving...watch this spot for updates! ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2327 **********************************