MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2388

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: (no subject)
	by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
  2) Phew!
	by "Li'nia Stormdancer" <lady_stormdancer-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  3) I'm Back...
	by Nicole Fletcher <fletchn-+AT+-telusplanet.net>
  4) 
	by Freedom Walker <freedomjustice-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  5) Re: I'm Back...
	by CmdrDTroi-+AT+-aol.com
  6) Name 'Ulrich' (was: Re: Names, Companions adn Heralds)
	by Leon Planken <leon-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl>
  7) RE: 
	by "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
  8) RE: I'm Back...
	by "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
  9) Re: Apology, book suggestions 
	by Robert Martin <rmartin3-+AT+-ptd.net>
 10) Change of address
	by Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
 11) Which book?
	by Freedom Walker <freedomjustice-+AT+-yahoo.com>
 12) Real Places
	by "MARVIN GRAY" <TNTGRAY-+AT+-email.msn.com>
 13) Re: Which book?
	by "MARVIN GRAY" <TNTGRAY-+AT+-email.msn.com>
 14) Re: I'm Back...
	by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
 15) Freedom book momhood
	by Julia Gray <jgray-+AT+-oakton.edu>
 16) Re: Real Places
	by "Dan Halford" <dan-+AT+-myshed.net>

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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:21:50 EDT
From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Message-ID: <80.b5df.26dc5c1e-+AT+-aol.com>

what news letter are you speaking of/


In a message dated 8/28/2000 6:03:52 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
MsMystical96-+AT+-aol.com writes:

<< I stopped getting this newsletter.  Is there any reason, if not could I 
start 
 receiving it again  Thank-You
 
 Misty Tabor
 MsMystical96-+AT+-aol.com >>

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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" <lady_stormdancer-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Phew!
Message-ID: <20000829011106.6337.qmail-+AT+-web1205.mail.yahoo.com>

Heyla List-Sibs!!

*Li'nia creeps into the Hall of Mist, looking around. 
She could see a few more people peering around... They
all seemed to be just looking, seeing if anyone else
was there.  Reassured, they all started to get more
comfortable and start talking again...*

Dang, that must have been one heck of a snag!! 
Thankfully, our wonderful ListMistress and all her
Helpers fixed it!  *g*

ObMisty:  Well, this really isn't an ObMisty, but just
an experience of mine.  I read in the SERRAted Edge
books about Tannim's living near Savannah, Georgia. 
Remember his description of River Street, when he was
going to that Irish pub with Sam?  How the
cobblestones jarred the heck out of his sore knee and
the shocks of his Mach I in particular?  Well, I know
for a fact that Misty must have driven down that
street.  I've experienced a drive down River Street,
and let me tell you, I think I'll walk from now
on...lol

Death-by-chocolate sheep to all!!

=====
---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->---
             Peon to the Powers That Be, 
     (Hopeful)Goddess of All Things Possessed, &
 Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention

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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:02:19 -0600
From: Nicole Fletcher <fletchn-+AT+-telusplanet.net>
To: mercedes lackey <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: I'm Back...
Message-ID: <39AB19AB.E049FDDA-+AT+-telusplanet.net>

*The one who fancies herself poet who caused so much trouble before
comes creeping back onto the list hoping no one is equipped with
flame-throwers anymore*

"Um... I'm back Listsibs... and I have another issue about copy write
and Fan-Fic.  If I had some pics that I made based on some scenes from
Mercedes Lackey's books... Not saying that I do... would I be able to
post them on my web page if I put copy write on them in my name?  Not
assuming anything of coarse..."

~Nicole
Writer of chaotic poems
Founder and official member of the 'Wisp of Smoke' club for the recently
Flamed
Chosen of Companion D'Faindes

P.S.  What ever happened to 'Bardic Immunity'?  I mean come on people!
It was a mistake!


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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:57:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Freedom Walker <freedomjustice-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: Misty List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20000829025716.27859.qmail-+AT+-web1104.mail.yahoo.com>

I am writing on behalf of the Lady Freedom Justice
Walker. She wished to apolagize for sending a letter
which was rather heated quite a while back then
apparently "dissappearing" In fact she had
complications with her pregnancy and went into preterm
labor on the 10th, which she had to have emergency
surgery for and complications developed that have left
her still in the hospital. She didn't want to
discontinue the list however so she is having me check
it though I confess I know nothing of Mercedes Lackey
and so I could not contribute as she may have. 

Although from the way she talks I really should read
one of her books... any suggestions?

Terrence 

on behalf of Lady Captian Freedom Justice Walker.

=====
>From the Desk of,
Captain Freedom Justice Walker
    of the FireSisters

Hopeful tracker and keeper of the Friendship Ring.
http://members.coolchat.com/coolpages/Aspen/3241.html

__________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:18:22 EDT
From: CmdrDTroi-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: I'm Back...
Message-ID: <7a.992349f.26dc938e-+AT+-aol.com>

In a message dated 8/28/00 9:17:39 PM Central Daylight Time, 
fletchn-+AT+-telusplanet.net writes:

<< "Um... I'm back Listsibs... and I have another issue about copy write
 and Fan-Fic.  If I had some pics that I made based on some scenes from
 Mercedes Lackey's books... Not saying that I do... would I be able to
 post them on my web page if I put copy write on them in my name?  Not
 assuming anything of coarse..."
  >>
Um...that's a tricky one. Personally, I would say, don't post them.......or, 
at least don't post them under titles that would tie them to any of Misty's 
work. I don't know how Misty feels about fan art, but her feelings on Fan-Fic 
are well known and I hafta go by that. I think it's kinda a gray area as far 
as legalities are concerned, but let's not stir the pot, eh?<BG>
TAZ

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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:45:40 +0200 (CEST)
From: Leon Planken <leon-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Name 'Ulrich' (was: Re: Names, Companions adn Heralds)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000829154453.21825B-100000-+AT+-ch.twi.tudelft.nl>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Jaec Songblade wrote:

> I also saw Ulrich somewhere, I can't remember, I think it was in the
> credits of a movie.

*delurking*
Ulrich is a common German name, I think. It appears as a Dutch name too,
for example we have a soccer player with Ulrich as first name.
Come to think of it, lots of topographical names in Karse (not any other
characters' names, AFAIK - I've read ML's books chronologically until
Storm Breaking, which I'm reading now) have a German sound to them -
couldn't give you an example right now, though.

Leon
*relurking*




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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:01:52 -0400
From: "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: 
Message-ID: <000201c011c1$af967f50$4f01a8c0-+AT+-rmartin1>

What do you need help with?

Tristaan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
> [mailto:mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk]On Behalf Of Kate Tyler
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 07:07 PM
> To: rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com
> Subject: 
> 
> 
> <color><param>0100,0100,0100</param>Help
> 

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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:04:48 -0400
From: "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: I'm Back...
Message-ID: <000301c011c2$18723780$4f01a8c0-+AT+-rmartin1>

> Um...that's a tricky one. Personally, I would say, don't post
> them.......or,
> at least don't post them under titles that would tie them to
> any of Misty's
> work. I don't know how Misty feels about fan art, but her
> feelings on Fan-Fic
> are well known and I hafta go by that. I think it's kinda a
> gray area as far
> as legalities are concerned, but let's not stir the pot, eh?<BG>

The same topic came up recently on the alt.books.m-lackey Usenet group (ABML
for those of us who hang out there).  I think the same conclusion was drawn.
Unless otherwise indicated, I think we should respect Misty's wishes and
refrain from any fan-related creations.  Now, drawings of Gryphons,
bird-people, lizard-men, etc, etc, don't have to be Misty related.  Those
creatures I've seen all over the place in a number of fantasy art books as
well as referenced in other non-Misty books.  I think you can safely draw
what you want as long as you don't make any allusions that it is Misty
related.

Tristaan


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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:03:28 -0400
From: Robert Martin <rmartin3-+AT+-ptd.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Apology, book suggestions 
Message-ID: <fgnnqs8kijq2vvcii7ls3cev9m6qgqkclm-+AT+-4ax.com>

On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 04:09:51 +0100 (BST), Freedom Walker
<freedomjustice-+AT+-yahoo.com> stomped through my brain with:

>I am writing on behalf of the Lady Freedom Justice
>Walker. She wished to apolagize for sending a letter
>which was rather heated quite a while back then
>apparently "dissappearing" In fact she had
>complications with her pregnancy and went into preterm
>labor on the 10th, which she had to have emergency
>surgery for and complications developed that have left
>her still in the hospital. She didn't want to

ooo..Not good.  How preterm was it?  Having recently had a daughter,
this is a note of concern for me.

>discontinue the list however so she is having me check
>it though I confess I know nothing of Mercedes Lackey
>and so I could not contribute as she may have. 
>
>Although from the way she talks I really should read
>one of her books... any suggestions?

Well, you could always start with what got me hooked: The Mage Wars.
AKA the Gryphon trilogy.  I'll admit that Silver Gryphon wasn't as
good as the first two, but Black Gryphon and White Gryphon are great
books and give you that pre-knowledge that his helpful for a LOT of
other things.

However, most people recommend reading in publication order which, I
believe, starts with the Queen's Own trilogy (Arrows, etc).  Somewhere
around here I think someone has the full list.

Honey flavored sheep to all...

Tristaan
--
Robert Martin
http://home.ptd.net/~rmartin3
"There exists no dream worth chasing if it cannot satisfy.
 There exists no god worth serving if he cannot hear your cry" - Circle of Dust

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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:32:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
To: mercedes-lackey
Subject: Change of address
Message-ID: <200008291632.RAA27758-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>

For your information:

----- Begin Included Message -----

>From firebird-+AT+-firebirdarts.com  Fri Aug 18 19:40:11 2000
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:45:03 -0700
From: Teri Lee <firebird-+AT+-firebirdarts.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: mel-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Change of address
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi,
We have new contact info:
Firebird Arts & Music
P.O. Box 30268 
Portland, OR 97294
(503) 255-5751  info
(503) 255-5703) FAX
1-800 752-0494  order
e-mail
firebird-+AT+-firebirdarts.com
website:
firebirdarts.com

Please update this as soon as possible.  The old phone number has been
re-assigned, and some poor lady is getting a whole lot of calls that she 
shouldn't.

Thanks.


----- End Included Message -----


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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Freedom Walker <freedomjustice-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: Misty List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Which book?
Message-ID: <20000829181934.6019.qmail-+AT+-web1102.mail.yahoo.com>

Freedom say's she does remember you Betha'lis. And
thanks you and Li'nia Stormdancer for your concern.
She would like some thing she called the Friendship
ring to be passed to Betha'lis she say's to encourage
you to delurk for awhile longer... 
    The doctors hold more hope for her baby then for
her actually. he lost sever oz.'s but with an IV and
resperator they think he'll start to gain and should
be out within a few week's. 
    Is there a spicific book I should start with, I'd
prefer something set in modern day... I am into occult
but... nothing that get's too wordy or detailish...

Terrence

=====
>From the Desk of,
Captain Freedom Justice Walker
    of the FireSisters

Hopeful tracker and keeper of the Friendship Ring.
http://members.coolchat.com/coolpages/Aspen/3241.html

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:53:53 -0500
From: "MARVIN GRAY" <TNTGRAY-+AT+-email.msn.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Real Places
Message-ID: <002901c011f2$f753dc80$2f61fea9-+AT+-computer>


> *Li'nia :
> ObMisty:  Well, this really isn't an ObMisty, but just
> an experience of mine.  I read in the SERRAted Edge
> books about Tannim's living near Savannah, Georgia.
> Remember his description of River Street, when he was
> going to that Irish pub with Sam?  How the
> cobblestones jarred the heck out of his sore knee and
> the shocks of his Mach I in particular?  Well, I know
> for a fact that Misty must have driven down that
> street.  I've experienced a drive down River Street,
> and let me tell you, I think I'll walk from now
> on...lol

I have also noticed that many of the places that she describes in Oklahoma
and in California in the SERRA books and the Kory books and in Sacred Ground
are identifiable.  Jenks, OK that Jinx High was based on, too.  Living here,
its cool to try to figure out which places she had in mind, or to see things
actually identified.  *grin* Makes the books seem a little more  "Could
be..." to me, which I enjoy.  Of course that's what brings out the crazies,
who can't tell the difference between could be and is.*frown*  Ah, well.

Dax the Eternal,
Goddess of Elves and Unicorns, Evangelist of Low Humor, Knight of Fluff.
Councilor of Mist
Homepage: http://welcome.to/GrayHaven




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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:32:43 -0500
From: "MARVIN GRAY" <TNTGRAY-+AT+-email.msn.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Which book?
Message-ID: <008901c011f8$49a0a400$2f61fea9-+AT+-computer>


>     The doctors hold more hope for her baby then for
> her actually. he lost sever oz.'s but with an IV and
> resperator they think he'll start to gain and should
> be out within a few week's.

Please give her our love and care and good thoughts for her and her little
one.

>     Is there a spicific book I should start with, I'd
> prefer something set in modern day... I am into occult
> but... nothing that get's too wordy or detailish...

Try Sacred Ground, Children of the Night, Summoned to Tourney or Born to
Run.  These are four different series (SG is stand alone).  All are set in
modern day, but deal with fantasy/occult subjects and are great reads.  For
sci-fi, Wing Commander.  I would suggest Sacred Ground or Children of the
Night to start with.  She isn't very nice to her men though, so there are
mostly female heroines.

Hope that helps,

Dax the Eternal,
Councilor of Mist




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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:04:14 EDT
From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: I'm Back...
Message-ID: <36.ac3e9f2.26dd7f4f-+AT+-aol.com>

the proper term is copyright, not copywrite.  i am not sure where that would fall, your pictures are based on copy righted materials, but are your own original interpretations... anyone out there more knowledgible in copyright law than i am(elem. librarian)?

you ask a very good question...


In a message dated Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:17:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Nicole Fletcher <fletchn-+AT+-telusplanet.net> writes:

<< *The one who fancies herself poet who caused so much trouble before
comes creeping back onto the list hoping no one is equipped with
flame-throwers anymore*

"Um... I'm back Listsibs... and I have another issue about copy write
and Fan-Fic.  If I had some pics that I made based on some scenes from
Mercedes Lackey's books... Not saying that I do... would I be able to
post them on my web page if I put copy write on them in my name?  Not
assuming anything of coarse..."

~Nicole
Writer of chaotic poems
Founder and official member of the 'Wisp of Smoke' club for the recently
Flamed
Chosen of Companion D'Faindes

P.S.  What ever happened to 'Bardic Immunity'?  I mean come on people!
It was a mistake!

 >>



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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:00:43 -0500
From: Julia Gray <jgray-+AT+-oakton.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Freedom book momhood
Message-ID: <39AC328B.F5A6800-+AT+-oakton.edu>

Freedom Walker via Terrence wrote:

> Freedom say's she does remember you Betha'lis. And
> thanks you and Li'nia Stormdancer for your concern.
> She would like some thing she called the Friendship
> ring to be passed to Betha'lis she say's to encourage
> you to delurk for awhile longer...

oh .. oh .. ohh (that's supposed to be me speechless)....
I am very honored by this ...

>
>     The doctors hold more hope for her baby then for
> her actually. he lost sever oz.'s but with an IV and
> resperator they think he'll start to gain and should
> be out within a few week's.

 . . . but this is very mixed news.  I can only hope that everything
turns out well for all of you - you certainly are in many of our
thoughts.

as to a book ... well, what is Freedom's favorite?  Is she up for
listening to you read out loud?  It might be nice to read a book to her
as you explore it for the first time .. just an idea.

and related to this heartwrenching situation ... here's an obmisty:
Motherhood (can't imagine why I'm thinking of that) ... I can't think of
an active mom in a Misty book (kethry doesn't count because she wasn't
an active mom in any book) . Selaney isn't portrayed as a mom per se but
as a ruler (okay, a little mom in there)  ... I guess Hydona is
protrayed as well as a mom, but while she isn't a bit part, she's really
a supporting role ... but motherhood just isn't portrayed that much in
Misty's books that I remember .. am I misremembering?  Can moms be
integral central characters?

betha'lis - showering healing sheep on everyone who needs them


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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:41:45 +0100
From: "Dan Halford" <dan-+AT+-myshed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Real Places
Message-ID: <001b01c0120a$663adb00$0100a8c0-+AT+-dan>

> I have also noticed that many of the places that she describes in Oklahoma
> and in California in the SERRA books and the Kory books and in Sacred
Ground
> are identifiable.  Jenks, OK that Jinx High was based on, too.  Living
here,
> its cool to try to figure out which places she had in mind, or to see
things
> actually identified.  *grin* Makes the books seem a little more  "Could
> be..." to me, which I enjoy.  Of course that's what brings out the
crazies,
> who can't tell the difference between could be and is.*frown*  Ah, well.

I know what you mean. The freakiest thing ever (you know, hairs on the back
of your neck standing up) was reading a book by Bill Bryson, a travel writer
/ comedian, who described where he lived in upstate Vermont just over the
state border from NH. He described a tin-pot little place called Norwich and
the bridge over the river which marks the State border thereabouts.

Now, I cannot imagine that many people unless they're from round there have
even heard of Norwich. I'm English, and I wondered how many people from this
country would have heard of it, and would have actually swum under the
bridge he was talking about. Very freaky experience.

It's like going to somewhere for the first time (like NYC or LA) and then
being able to relate to things when you see it in a film.


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