MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2429 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Reincarnated Heralds by "Taliesin Pereldan" 2) Companion Trivia by "Abigail Laughlin" 3) Books we'd like to see (was: Re: Reincarnated Heralds) by "Layla Voll" 4) Re: Reincarnated Heralds by Barbara Hallock 5) Re: Reincarnated Heralds by HCTrek-+AT+-aol.com 6) Re: Reincarnated Heralds by "Ashes Dust" 7) Re: Reincarnated Heralds by "Ashes Dust" 8) Braid... Grove-born/ by "Li'nia Stormdancer" 9) Re: Reincarnated Heralds by "Lisa T" 10) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 2428 by Jaec Songblade 11) The Guide to Companions by "Jenn H" 12) Re: Companion Trivia by "kristy hibbitt" 13) Re: Companion Trivia by Elindreada-+AT+-aol.com 14) Re: Companion Trivia by "kristy hibbitt" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:13:57 -0500 From: "Taliesin Pereldan" To: Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds Message-ID: <003b01c039c6$105cd100$1297d6d1-+AT+-bellsouth.net> ************quote from Natetoact-+AT+-aol.com*************** I have a question... we all know that Heralds lead dangerous lives... Now, I'm taking it as a given that Rolan doesn't age... My issue is that, leading said dangerous life, in 700 (!) years of life, shouldn't ROLAN have been killed at some point? if he has, isn't it feasible that the Monarch's Own's Companion could get reincarnated into another Grove-Born body? That makes sense to me, what do the rest of y'all think? ************** End Quote************************ I thought I remembered reading some where that the Monarch's Own Companion is the same companion reincarnated as Grove-Born every time, all the way back to the Founding? I could swear I've read that somewhere, but I can't find the quote... --Taliesin Pereldan, impressed of gold Rhiannon Dragonharper Dragons rescued, Virgins slain, Knights barbecued ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:22:24 GMT From: "Abigail Laughlin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Companion Trivia Message-ID: <> Well, I don't recall them saying that Gwena is the first Grove-Born Companion since anyone's time... just implying that he being Grove-Born is a sort of big deal. Presumably there are not a great many Grove-Born at any given time, and they probably do the same thing Gwena did for the most part--pretend to be normal. <> Well, we've confirmed that Rolan isn't 700-some-odd, at least, since the Companion of first Lancir, then Shavri, and then presumably Jisa was Taver, not Rolan. My guess is that, while he's been around for quite a while--in AotQ it's stated that the MOC never ages, though he can be killed--he hasn't been around quite *that* long. And keep in mind that MO doesn't seem to *usually* be that much of a high-risk job, since the MO doesn't go on circuit or do many of the normal duties of a Herald. I think it's feasible that Rolan simply has never got into trouble too big to get out of yet. I don't think that the MOC would be reincarnated back into the position after being killed off. More likely, a new Guardian Spirit of that order would take his place. <> Probably the same place they get any spirit. Do we really want to get into where the spirit of every living thing comes from? :) <> This is touched on a bit in WoFate, when Quenten gets his first look at Elspeth. He describes Gwena as a Guardian Spirit of the highest order, which seems to imply that her soul, rather than being 'human' per se, is something more like--for lack of a better comparison--an angel. As for where she herself comes from--Grove Born Companions, by definition, appear fully grown from the Grove. Her arrival in Arrows is her 'birth'. Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, Member of the Mistic Circle, Webmaster of the Circle of Stone, Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes; http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ - The Labyrinth _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:00:03 GMT From: "Layla Voll" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Books we'd like to see (was: Re: Reincarnated Heralds) Message-ID: >And while were on the topic of books we'd all like to read, I'd like to >know more about Seleny's (sp) father and his life since we know that he >know Kero and Tarma adn that he visited them on the plains....I'm thinking >the three of them must of had some INTERESTING times :). > >Amanda Indeed! I'd also like to see some of the adventures that Kris and Dirk had while they were Selanay's Secret Service. When Kris is describing Dirk to Talia in "Arrow's Flight," he seems to be referring to some specific incidents (like when he comments that Dirk is amazingly gentle and kind, but also has no problem sneaking around and stabbing someone in the back if he thought they were threatening people/things he cared about). I think their adventures would probably be perfectly suited for short stories, much like the Tarma/Kethry stories. (So please let me know if such stories exist and I've just missed them!) Speaking of Dirk (and I apologize if the subject of relative ages comes up too much: this is my first time posting here), how much older is Dirk than Talia? It seems to me that when they first meet, Talia is twelve, and Dirk is a Herald who has at least completed his training and has probably done some more Herald-type work. So I figure he's at least twenty in "Arrows of the Queen," or at least eight years older than her, and probably 25 or 26 during Arrow's Flight and Arrow's Fall, while Talia is around 18. Not that I think this is odd: my parents are seven years apart in age. And a lot of the friendships among Heralds seem to span fairly wide age ranges. Best wishes, Layla Layla Voll Layla_Voll-+AT+-hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara Hallock To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds Message-ID: <28182246.971972728856.JavaMail.imail-+AT+-goochy.excite.com> Not to be annoying, but didn't Misty write in one of the books that Rolan WAS the same Queen's Own's Companion or at least strongly hint at it? Apologies for the short message but I had to put in my two cents' worth. *sheeps behind the nearest inanimate object that's bigger than she is* Thanks everyone! _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:58:53 EDT From: HCTrek-+AT+-aol.com To: Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds Message-ID: <82.1abf077.2720824d-+AT+-aol.com> what I remember, is that gwena was grove-born, and she still had a lot to learn. That means she is not a re-incarnate, but a new companion. Also, I think I remember reading that if Gwena were to die, she'd be reborn in the grove. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:15:27 CDT From: "Ashes Dust" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds Message-ID: ------------------------------------------------------ Yes, it his name is Rolan /BB pg 174/ Rolan does a mindsweep of Lan. I'm not sure who said it, about Companions not having Chroniclers to write down thier stories, but that got me thinking, wouldn't it be cool to have a novel in a another Non-Human's point of view? Like the Gryphon's Trilogy, but with a Companion, Hertasi or Tervardi being the main character...? And one comment to finish it off--In BB page 141, I think Kalira went to far with the "Would you have another Tylendel comment?" Although, I just thought about it, from Tylendel's point of view, he probably lost his life-bonded...maybe she was making a comment about HER lifebonded...That still gets me, Lan and Kalira being Lifebonded.... Ashes ------------------------------------------------------ >From: "Eleonora Scoseria" >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >To: banshee_ashes-+AT+-hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:15:15 +0100 (BST) > >Lish wrote: > > > > Ooo... really interesting point. If they do actually come out and say >that > > Gwena is the first Gorve-born since Vanyel's time, > >Hmm...where does it say that? I am missing something here i think. > > >and we know that Rolan, > > as the Monarch's Own Companion is Grove born, that means that Talia' >Rolan > > _has_ to be the same as the Rolan in Brightly Burning, and was he was > > probably the Companion of the Monarch's Own back with Randale and his > > crew, too. Wow! That'd make him at least 700 years old! > >Nope, the Companion of the MO back in Randale's time was Tavir (Taver?) or >something of the sort. Definitely not Rolan. >Just my .02 > >Peace, > >Ele >Councilor of Mist > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:21:27 CDT From: "Ashes Dust" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds Message-ID: No, I don't think so, because the Monarch's Own is protected almost as much as the Monarch Him/Herself. They are the one's that keeps the Monarch sane in hard times. Most of the time, the Monarch's Own would stay in the capital with the Monarch. Why would the Monarch go on the battle field? If they were near the battle, which we know they do (Winds of Fury, Queen Selenay/ and Her father died on the battlefield) they would still probably stay in the back of the lines or else be protected more than any other fighter. Another thought--Savil changed names when she came back as Sayvil, so who says a Companion can't come back with a different name? Why couldn't Rolan be the same Companion that Chose King Valdemar? Just a thought, Ashes >From: Natetoact-+AT+-aol.com >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >To: banshee_ashes-+AT+-hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:23:27 +0100 (BST) > >I have a question... we all know that Heralds lead dangerous lives... Now, >I'm taking it as a given that Rolan doesn't age... My issue is that, >leading >said dangerous life, in 700 (!) years of life, shouldn't ROLAN have been >killed at some point? if he has, isn't it feasible that the Monarch's Own's >Companion could get reincarnated into another Grove-Born body? That makes >sense to me, what do the rest of y'all think? > > > Sic; > Nathyn >"Music washes from the soul the dust of everyday life." > - Berthold Auerbach _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" To: List Subject: Braid... Grove-born/ Message-ID: <20001019221941.12659.qmail-+AT+-web1202.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla List-Sibs! Good to see that the Arena of Discussion and Dissention still attracts people... *g* ====================================================== (Sorry, forgot who wrote this...) But when Gwena chooses Elspeth, wasn't there some big deal about her being the first Grove-born Companion in a long while? Does this mean there were no reincarnated heralds for a long while, or are the poor heralds actually being born to Companions and being forced to go through adolescence and puberty all over again in horse-form? ====================================================== I think the biggest thing was that there were two Grove-born at the same time. I don't think there's a shortage of reincarnated Heralds, but rather a shortage of reincarnated Herald-Mages. There hadn't been a Herald-Mage in so long. Or maybe, they needed a new soul, one that had no feelings or prejudices from their previous life. We know that Savil came back as Sayvil, so that was proof that the souls hang around for a while on the Wheel. And she definetely retained her personality and probably many of her memories. But could you imagine someone from Vanyel's time coming back to do all that Gwena had to do? And I don't think they have to go through puberty all over again. Companions have all the knowledge (maybe not the experience, though) they need by the time they're full grown. Maybe the reason they have to be "born" again is because the soul needs time to adjust to a new form? By the time they reach their full size, they've come to terms with their new life... IMOHO... ======================================================= Nerika wrote: I do have a question however that I am perplexed about. If Gwena is groveborn, does she appear or is she born from other Companions and where does her personality come from? ======================================================= Grove-born Companions appear full-grown from the Grove. They are the only ones that don't come from normal birthing procedures. As for her personality, well... Rolan's been around for a while, and I know one of the other discussion right now is just how long he HAS been around. His personality is passed from one incarnation to the next. The knowledge of all those lifetimes is invaluable to the Monarch's Own. Even if that isn't true, it IS true that he can Choose several times during his life, and gets the benefits of an extended lifetime of knowledge. Gwena's personality.. well, they said she had a lot of growing to do, so she's probably a new spirit, one that hasn't been reincarnated. But, no, I don't know where the spirits in Velgarth come from! *g* ===== ---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->--- Peon to the Powers That Be, (Hopeful)Goddess of All Things Possessed, & Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:10:10 EST From: "Lisa T" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reincarnated Heralds Message-ID: ******Ashes Dust Said ********** Another thought--Savil changed names when she came back as Sayvil, so who says a Companion can't come back with a different name? ******************************** Just a thought - I think Heralds come back usually with the name name - IMNSHO Savil became Sayvil because SAvil was a very famous HM, and it would blow the cover of Companions as reincarnated Heralds (remeber it wasn't until fairly recently, esp storms, that it was acknowledged that companions were reincarated Heralds). Also Daran's companion is Jasen - remeber Van and Savils fellow HM, the spelling was slightly different there too. Also another idea, spelling esp of names is ideosincratic, therefore if the was thing are pronounced has changed over the years then the names may sound slightly different, and therefore be spelt differently (can u imagine a companion saying "may name is Lissa, spelt L...I....S....S...A??) Also someone said they wnated to hear stuff about Selenaly farther - however, I think thet REALLY mean Roald, her grandfather, as it is mentioned in a story in OathBlood that HE was the Herald who went to the plains. BTW - looking at the requirements for the QO to become a Herald, i wondered, do they 'assign' you a companion or can u choose a name? *looks around nervously for any sign of a flamethrower* Wind to thy wings Lisa T _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaec Songblade To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 2428 Message-ID: <20001020014201.15220.qmail-+AT+-web4801.mail.yahoo.com> Cennydd: "Usually this is phrased as "Is the Star-eyed the consort of the God of Iftel." After all, we know that the God of Iftel is Vkandis (SBreaking)and we know that Vkandis had a consort (SWarning) but that she is not currently worshipped in Karse. But, you have an interesting point. Is the consort of the Star-eyed the same as Vkandis (regardless of whether she was Vkandis' consort at some point in the distant past)? If Vkandis is not the God of the Shina'in, and if the Star-eyed was the consort of Vkandis at one point, does that mean that she remarried? And did she divorce Vkandis, or is polygamy okay among the gods of Velgarth?" Now who says the gods marry? they might just be together for the duration that they like eachother and 'break-up' when they get sick of eachother? I think that Vkandis is the god of the Shin'a'in but the Karsites and Iftel have more of his attention so he's only a small part while the False priests wanted a male dominated society so they kicked the Goddess out and while the Star-Eyed was so busy with the Shin'a'in she didn't take notice. Thanks Cennydd, I needed soemthing really random to write about, WTTW, Jaec. " It was clear in my hallucination"-Michael, Roswell. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:07:53 EDT From: "Jenn H" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: The Guide to Companions Message-ID: Heyla! I'm new to this list. I looked at the archives (well, some of them... there's so many!) and there are tons of conversations about Companions. Here's my compilation of companion facts, taken from the books, Firebird's Misty Q&A, and the archives. So, here it is: How Companions Came To Be Baron Valdemar wanted a way to make sure all the future monarchs were good people, so at dawn on Midsummer's Day, he went to the middle of the grove in what is now called Companion's Field. He asked for help from every god he ever heard of, and cast a spell. At sundown, there was a brilliant flash of light, and the first three companions appeared. Their names were Ardatha, Kyrith, and Steladar, and they Chose Baron Valdemar, his chief Herald, and the Heir. That's how the Heralds became what they are the way they are. At first all the Companions came from the grove, but then mares started foaling, and from then on the only Companion that was grove-born was the Monarch's Own. Grove-Born Companions Grove-born companions appear fully grown in the grove, like the first companions did. I don't think they are reincarnated souls, because of Vanyel's comment that Gwena doesn't have any human experience. This could, however, not be the case with the MOC, because he is a very special companion. The Monarch's Own Companion The MOC is special. He is always grove-born, always a stallion, and he doesn't age. He can be killed, though. So, if the MOC *did* manage not to get killed, it's possible he could live for a *very* long time. When the MOC dies, another instantly appears in the grove. He always gives his name to his Chosen, other companions may or may not give their names to their Chosen. The MOC has some extra powers that many other comopanions don't have, such as even more stamina and endurance than a normal companion, and I think I saw somewhere that they have a better self-healing "gift" than most other companions too. There are probably others also, I just can't remember them at the moment. "Normal" Companions Misty has said that, yes, Companions are reincarnated Heralds. Some examples are Savil (Sayvil), Jaysen (Jasan), and Tantras (Tantris). Companions use node energy to heal themselves, give them their speed and endurace, and other various things. That is why they are white, blue-eyed, and silver-hooved, they have been bleached by the magic energy. Some companions have gifts ("Ghost" was a MindHealer), though it is rare. All companions can midspeak with their Chosen at the moment of Choosing, and when their Chosen are in a trance. Companions have many secrets, most of which we don't know. They have many special abilities, we probably don't know many of those either. Well, I think I probably forgot a lot of the specifics, but that is the general idea. Zhai'helleva, Jenn _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:28:41 WST From: "kristy hibbitt" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companion Trivia Message-ID: In the Winds trilogy, it is stated that Gwena is the first Grove-born companion since Vanyel's time which is why she thinks that's she's never wrong and tries to lead Elspeth on a pre determined path. Vanyel actually tells Elspeth this in Winds of Fury. nerika >From: "Abigail Laughlin" >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >To: nerika_99-+AT+-hotmail.com >Subject: Companion Trivia >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:46:14 +0100 (BST) > ><that >Gwena is the first Gorve-born since Vanyel's time, and we know that Rolan, >as the Monarch's Own Companion is Grove born, that means that Talia' Rolan >_has_ to be the same as the Rolan in Brightly Burning, and was he was >probably the Companion of the Monarch's Own back with Randale and his crew, >too. Wow! That'd make him at least 700 years old!>> > >Well, I don't recall them saying that Gwena is the first Grove-Born >Companion since anyone's time... just implying that he being Grove-Born is >a >sort of big deal. Presumably there are not a great many Grove-Born at any >given time, and they probably do the same thing Gwena did for the most >part--pretend to be normal. > ><Now, >I'm taking it as a given that Rolan doesn't age... My issue is that, >leading >said dangerous life, in 700 (!) years of life, shouldn't ROLAN have been >killed at some point? if he has, isn't it feasible that the Monarch's Own's >Companion could get reincarnated into another Grove-Born body? That makes >sense to me, what do the rest of y'all think?>> > >Well, we've confirmed that Rolan isn't 700-some-odd, at least, since the >Companion of first Lancir, then Shavri, and then presumably Jisa was Taver, >not Rolan. My guess is that, while he's been around for quite a while--in >AotQ it's stated that the MOC never ages, though he can be killed--he >hasn't >been around quite *that* long. And keep in mind that MO doesn't seem to >*usually* be that much of a high-risk job, since the MO doesn't go on >circuit or do many of the normal duties of a Herald. I think it's feasible >that Rolan simply has never got into trouble too big to get out of yet. > >I don't think that the MOC would be reincarnated back into the position >after being killed off. More likely, a new Guardian Spirit of that order >would take his place. > ><Companion is to be ensouled, where do they get the spirit to animate the >body? K-mart?>> > >Probably the same place they get any spirit. Do we really want to get into >where the spirit of every living thing comes from? :) > ><groveborn, does she appear or is she born from other Companions and where >does her personality come from>> > >This is touched on a bit in WoFate, when Quenten gets his first look at >Elspeth. He describes Gwena as a Guardian Spirit of the highest order, >which >seems to imply that her soul, rather than being 'human' per se, is >something >more like--for lack of a better comparison--an angel. > >As for where she herself comes from--Grove Born Companions, by definition, >appear fully grown from the Grove. Her arrival in Arrows is her 'birth'. > >Zha'hai'allav'a, >Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven, >Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, >Member of the Mistic Circle, >Webmaster of the Circle of Stone, >Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes; >http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ - The Labyrinth > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:12:35 EDT From: Elindreada-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companion Trivia Message-ID: It says no such thing I hate to say. Yes, Vanyel does say Gwena is Grove born, which she is, but he does not say she's the first since his time. Just to prove my point here is the direct quote from Winds of Fury. pg. 113 :She's Grove-born,: Vanyel repeated. :So the "forgot" to tell you that, too, hmm? Doubtless "for your own good." It's simple enough Elspeth; you were going to be the first of the new Herald-Mages, so I suppose they thought you needed something more than the ordinary Companion.: Vanyels mind-voice dripped irony. :It never fails to annoy me how little faith people put in each other, Herald or no. Ah, well. Now that 'Fandes has her away from you, I'll tell you what she may have "forgotten" to tell you about Grove-born. Be gental on her, Elspeth; as Companions go - when compared to, say, Sayvil - she is very, very young. No older than you, in fact. She makes all the kinds of mistakes any young thing makes, but because she is Grove-born, she thinks she will always make the right decision.: He shook his head. :She forgets that she has no real, human experaince to base her decisions on. It is like dictating music when you yourself have never learned to play an instrament.: Ok, if you read that nowhere does it say that Gwena is the first Grove-born since Vanyel, just that she's Grove-born. Sorry. Elin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:45:11 WST From: "kristy hibbitt" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companion Trivia Message-ID: My mistake. Sorry. nerika >From: Elindreada-+AT+-aol.com >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >To: nerika_99-+AT+-hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Companion Trivia >Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:33:16 +0100 (BST) > >It says no such thing I hate to say. Yes, Vanyel does say Gwena is Grove >born, which she is, but he does not say she's the first since his time. >Just >to prove my point here is the direct quote from Winds of Fury. > >pg. 113 > >:She's Grove-born,: Vanyel repeated. :So the "forgot" to tell you that, >too, >hmm? Doubtless "for your own good." It's simple enough Elspeth; you were >going to be the first of the new Herald-Mages, so I suppose they thought >you >needed something more than the ordinary Companion.: Vanyels mind-voice >dripped irony. :It never fails to annoy me how little faith people put in >each other, Herald or no. Ah, well. Now that 'Fandes has her away from >you, >I'll tell you what she may have "forgotten" to tell you about Grove-born. >Be >gental on her, Elspeth; as Companions go - when compared to, say, Sayvil - >she is very, very young. No older than you, in fact. She makes all the >kinds of mistakes any young thing makes, but because she is Grove-born, she >thinks she will always make the right decision.: He shook his head. :She >forgets that she has no real, human experaince to base her decisions on. >It >is like dictating music when you yourself have never learned to play an >instrament.: > >Ok, if you read that nowhere does it say that Gwena is the first Grove-born >since Vanyel, just that she's Grove-born. Sorry. > >Elin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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