MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2434 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Qestion w/spolier... by "Rebecca McAllister" 2) Fluff/New books/Sunsinger thoughts by "Peter Allen" 3) Re: Qestion w/spolier... by "Layla Voll" 4) Re: Braid/Brightly Burning by Lish Monahan 5) Re: Braid: BB Shielding/ Life-Bonds by Lish Monahan 6) Re: Qestion w/spolier... by "Lisa T" 7) Re: Braid: BB Shielding/ Life-Bonds by Elindreada-+AT+-aol.com 8) Re: Qestion w/spolier... by Lish Monahan 9) Re: Qestion w/spolier... by Lish Monahan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:01:11 GMT From: "Rebecca McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Qestion w/spolier... Message-ID: > > Brightly Burning Spoiler Coming up(for those of you who haven't read >it) > > > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > Spoiler > > > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > Spoiler I have yet another quetion. In BB, they hint that all companions can control the gifta of there heralds, but they also hint that the only reason that Kalira can control Lavans gift is becuase of the lifebond. So my question is: What is the diffence? Becca(with no special title) > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:13:27 -0400 From: "Peter Allen" To: Subject: Fluff/New books/Sunsinger thoughts Message-ID: <000c01c03dcd$81708980$b303343f-+AT+-Alex> Raven Darkblade preened ;) : > It's a rather tired listee I am at the moment, but a happy one; I and my > Companion wannabe Ashby went to a schooling show this weekend and won a few > ribbons, including a rather surprising first place in an equitation class. Woohoo! Congrats Raven! Nice way to feel all good inside, eh? *grin* ---------- Ashes generously forwarded: > These will be adult books, tho, not YA; we've discovered that smart > kids like reading our adult books quite well. Yay! It's about time that she realized that some of her most-talked about books were for the Adult to Older Teen sections. I'm glad to hear the news. Thanks Ashes :). Now maybe I'll start reading up on her new books some more *soft chuckle*. *says as he awaits something that will rival LHM* ---------- Lisa commented: > It would be rather funny irony if it were Sunsinger/Shadowdancer's souls > that were in these two. Always together, forever apart again. *grin* But > that would just be kinda silly. You'd be surprised at how Misty works *grin*. She's stated that she wasn't that interested in getting the Sunsinger/Sundancer story into print form, but she didn't ever say much in regards to using characters like them somewhere else. Perhaps your thought on it is the closest that one can get :). Bright be thy day in the sun, Wintershard Councilor of Mist - E-mail for questions regarding the list ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:12:28 GMT From: "Layla Voll" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Qestion w/spolier... Message-ID: "Rebecca McAllister" writes: > > Brightly Burning Spoiler Coming up(for those of you who haven't > >readit) > > > > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > Spoiler > > > > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > Spoiler >I have yet another quetion. In BB, they hint that all companions can >control the gifta of there heralds, but they also hint that the only reason >that Kalira can control Lavans gift is becuase of the lifebond. So my >question is: What is the diffence? >Becca (with no special title) I just wanted to say that "Brightly Burning" and this discussion about Gifts and lifebonds has given me an entirely new respect for both Griffin and Dirk: Griffin for being so mentally grounded that he can control such a powerful Gift without needing the additional support of a lifebonded Companion, and Dirk for (as Elcarth said) being able to teach him how to use it without freaking him out. Layla --------------- Layla Voll Layla_Voll-+AT+-hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:43:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Lish Monahan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid/Brightly Burning Message-ID: > > > 2) On the reincarnation thing, BB pg. 260 Qoute from Pol ("Gods, > now > >I know how the Weaponsmaster feels." > > > "I always did," said Satiran, and left it at that.) Should this be > > >taken at face value, or could Satiran be saying that he was once a > > >Weaponsmaster? > > > >I think it should be taken at face value, concidering that he has a > >daughter in the field. But I've know to be wrong. > > > >Elin Just my thoughts on this- Knowing Misty's way of dropping hints, and the very pointed way she adds, "and left it at that." after Satiran expresses his sympathy, I would guess that in his human life he was some sort of weapons trainer. Becuase if it was in reference to his daughter, or to the protectiveness all companions feel for Heralds it wouldn't have been in the past tense. I think he would probably have said, "I always _do_" instead of "did". Eilis Siobhan Maire Ni Mhuineachain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:40:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Lish Monahan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid: BB Shielding/ Life-Bonds Message-ID: > --- Rebecca McAllister wrote: > > Brightly Burning Spoiler Coming up(for those of you > > who haven't read it) > > > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > Spoiler > > > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > - > > Spoiler > > - > The Companions and Heralds, once linked, can't be > separated. A piece of their soul is joined, and once > they lose it, they go insane. Tylendel lost all > control once he lost his link with his Companion and > Lavan lost his as well, when Kalira was killed. I > know they're under different circumstances, but the > outcome is the same; without that link to their > Companions, the lose it. It is as though a part of > their soul is now gone. The Companions go off > somewhere and quietly die if the Herald dies of old > age, like Jadus in AotQ. Of course, Heralds and > Companions rarely live to die of old age. Lifebonds > are a lot like the H/C bond, in that they are joined > at the soul, and if one part dies, the other will go > insane unless there is something like what > Ylsa/Keren/Sherrill had. However, the H/C bond allows > the Herald to fall in love with others, while the > lifebond will not. However, the lifebond doesn't seem > to be affected by the H/C bond. Did that make any > sense to anyone? lol > > ===== Well, Lavan lost his control when Kalira died, but I thought that was more becuase they were lifebonded then the Herald-Comanion bond. I mean, is the MO Herald-Companion Bond weaker? Because obviously Rolan isn't going nuts every time he loses his Herald... Prolly just one of the perks to being the MO Companion. :) Eilis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:45:57 EST From: "Lisa T" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Qestion w/spolier... Message-ID: "Rebecca McAllister" writes: > > Brightly Burning Spoiler Coming up(for those of you who haven't > >readit) > > > > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > Spoiler > > > > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > Spoiler >I have yet another quetion. In BB, they hint that all companions can >control the gifta of there heralds, but they also hint that the only reason >that Kalira can control Lavans gift is becuase of the lifebond. So my >question is: What is the diffence? My hunch (not having the text with me) is the AMOUNT of control. In LHM, Gala helped Tylendel to control his gifts - she put him under her shields. But she worked through him. Kalira actally went in and took control of Lavan's gift. It's like doing someone (Kal) and working through proxies (Gala) Wind to thy wings Lisa _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:22:00 EDT From: Elindreada-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid: BB Shielding/ Life-Bonds Message-ID: <13.c65e8f5.272781a8-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 10/24/00 6:42:23 PM Central Daylight Time, emonahan-+AT+-brynmawr.edu writes: > Well, Lavan lost his control when Kalira died, but I thought that was > more becuase they were lifebonded then the Herald-Comanion bond. I mean, > is the MO Herald-Companion Bond weaker? Because obviously Rolan isn't > going nuts every time he loses his Herald... Prolly just one of the perks > to being the MO Companion. :) > > Lavan lost control because he was emotionally unstable. Kalira wasn't just controling his gift, she was keeping him on an even keel. When he lost his anchor he just went beserk. Elin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:47:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Lish Monahan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Qestion w/spolier... Message-ID: > Brightly Burning Spoiler Coming up(for those of you who haven't > >readit) > > > > Spoiler > I just wanted to say that "Brightly Burning" and this discussion about Gifts > and lifebonds has given me an entirely new respect for both Griffin and > Dirk: Griffin for being so mentally grounded that he can control such a > powerful Gift without needing the additional support of a lifebonded > Companion, and Dirk for (as Elcarth said) being able to teach him how to use > it without freaking him out. > Is Griffin as powerful as Lavan, though? I remember something to the effect of him being the most powerful Firestarter since Lavan, but I don't think he actally has reached the same level of power. Griffin, too, had a much healthier upbringing I think. Eilis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:52:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Lish Monahan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Qestion w/spolier... Message-ID: Heyla all... I apologize for posting so much. I went without Misty for so long I think I was going in to witdrawal without noticing it... I feel like a morphine addict (not that I know what that feels like, but its more what I'd imagine...) > > Brightly Burning Spoiler Coming up(for those of you who haven't read > >it) > > > > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > Spoiler > > > > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > - > > > Spoiler > I have yet another quetion. In BB, they hint that all companions can control > the gifta of there heralds, but they also hint that the only reason that > Kalira can control Lavans gift is becuase of the lifebond. So my question > is: What is the diffence? I always though that the Herald-Companion bond was sort of temporary. Obviously, (take Gala for example) it can be broken, and though I think they are friends in the next life, I don't think that the bond carries on into the afterlife/next life. Lifebonding, on the otherhand, seems to be pretty permanent, passing from one lifespan to the next, with the two sould always intertwined. With such a permanent bond it would make sense that it would be stronger than the Herald-Companion bond, too, which could explain Lavan's need for Kalira. > > Becca(with no special title) I sympathize. I have none either. Peons, unite! Eilis ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2434 **********************************