MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2468 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: serpent's shadow (a new question) by Christine Wah Day 2) Re: serpent's shadow (a new question) by "Lisa T" 3) Collaborations by "Howell, Tommy" 4) Re: Collaborations by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com 5) Re: Collaborations by "Layla Voll" 6) RE: Collaborations by "Howell, Tommy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 13:09:13 +1000 From: Christine Wah Day To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: serpent's shadow (a new question) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001207125230.00fc1100-+AT+-pop.qut.edu.au> At 6/12/2000 10:46, Layla Voll wrote: >The other main character is Captain Peter >Scott, a retired sea captain, seller of antique reproductions, and an >Elemental Water Master. Coming out of lurk mode to comment that this sounds similar to ML's The Fire Rose where the main character is a Firemaster. I wonder if Captain Scott will have Undines as his little assistants. Chris ~--~~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~ Christine Wah Day Email c.wahday-+AT+-qut.edu.au Research Information Officer Phone (07) 3864 2861 Office of Research, QUT Fax (07) 3864 1304 ~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~--~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 13:46:15 +1000 From: "Lisa T" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: serpent's shadow (a new question) Message-ID: *pops out from the shadowy halls of her bedroom* "Layla Voll wrote in response to MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com about serpents shadow >The book is set in late nineteeth-century London: ... an >Elemental Water Master. As far as I can tell, it's completely separate > >from >the other things she's done, and looks both beautiful and exciting. Sounds good - but this fragment makes my think of the "fire Rose' (btw baen is rerealing this in jan) as fire rose is setr around same time, also with elemental masters. This may mean that it is set in the same 'world' as fire rose - nayone else agree???? btw - there is a site called www.funtrivia.com - and in their quizzyland/literature/fantasy section they have some misty quizzes - has anyone done or contributed one? off topic (kinda) I was trying to put my books int (semi)alphabetical order (so I could find them) and dicovered that by far, the most auhtor I have is Misty!! btw - has anyone notice that she seems to do more collborations than a lot of other auhtor - do you think this is a streght or weaknesss That's all *slips back into the booksheleved lined walls of her bedrrom, wondering if she'll EVER get all her b0oks sorted out* Lisa T _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:27:54 -0600 From: "Howell, Tommy" To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" Subject: Collaborations Message-ID: <5BA8DB8D54C4D3119956009027DE50C60E9FD7-+AT+-tdmnmail.tdmn.belo.com> Personally, I think it's a good way for people to find her. Seven years ago, I had a couple of friends insisting I read LHM, but until I ran across some of her Darkover stories, she stayed pretty low on my list after Anthony, McCaffrey and Zelazny. Once Zelazny wrapped up Amber and Anthony stopped writing anything I found interesting, I picked up MZB and subsequently Misty. I also learned about Elizabeth Moon from these collaborations (MZB and McCaffrey, I think) and I love her "Familias Regnant" books. Tommy -----Original Message----- off topic (kinda) I was trying to put my books int (semi)alphabetical order (so I could find them) and dicovered that by far, the most auhtor I have is Misty!! btw - has anyone notice that she seems to do more collborations than a lot of other auhtor - do you think this is a streght or weaknesss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:24:27 EST From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com To: Subject: Re: Collaborations Message-ID: <55.e547eb8.276105ad-+AT+-aol.com> i think it depends on the writng ability of her collaborators. some are of course better than others, one example of a disaster in my opinion is "if i pay thee not in gold" with piers anthony. it was clash of styles that i found it excruciating to get through and i seldom say that about any of misty's other books. i was actually glad to see it end! now if you liked this book don't flame me for my opinion, please. just post that you liked it. i have read many collaborations of hers that i really enjoyed, but still like misty solo writings on valdemar and her other attendant universes best. i would like to know hen the next bardic voices alanna book will be out? i knowthat i may have to wait a while on that one!! sounds like she is very busy! In a message dated Thu, 7 Dec 2000 9:58:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Howell, Tommy" writes: << Personally, I think it's a good way for people to find her. Seven years ago, I had a couple of friends insisting I read LHM, but until I ran across some of her Darkover stories, she stayed pretty low on my list after Anthony, McCaffrey and Zelazny. Once Zelazny wrapped up Amber and Anthony stopped writing anything I found interesting, I picked up MZB and subsequently Misty. I also learned about Elizabeth Moon from these collaborations (MZB and McCaffrey, I think) and I love her "Familias Regnant" books. Tommy -----Original Message----- off topic (kinda) I was trying to put my books int (semi)alphabetical order (so I could find them) and dicovered that by far, the most auhtor I have is Misty!! btw - has anyone notice that she seems to do more collborations than a lot of other auhtor - do you think this is a streght or weaknesss >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 16:00:27 From: "Layla Voll" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Collaborations Message-ID: Lisa T writes: > > off topic (kinda) I was trying to put my books int (semi) > > alphabetical order (so I could find them) and dicovered that by > far, >the most auhtor I have is Misty!! btw - has anyone notice that > she seems >to do more collborations than a lot of other auhtor - do > you think this >is a streght or weaknesss and Tommy Howell responds: >Personally, I think it's a good way for people to find her.... Once Zelazny >wrapped up Amber and Anthony stopped writing anything I found interesting, >I picked up MZB and subsequently Misty. I also learned about Elizabeth Moon >from these collaborations (MZB and McCaffrey, I think) and I love her >"Familias Regnant" books. It seems to me that MZB, McCaffrey, ML (and other established female fantasy writers to a lesser extent) have all made a point of finding new, less-established writers, usually also female, and collaborating with them as a way of bringing them to the attention of a wider audience. Just in making an incomplete list of people who've collaborated with the three of them (Elizabeth Moon, Josepha Sherman, Holly Lisle, Elizabeth Ann Scarborough, Margaret Ball), I see a lot of writers that I like whose deserving solo works were presumably brought to the attention of a wider audience by their collaborations. I think this is very different from, say, Tom Clancy's collaborations, where he essentially seems to have a stable of writers who crank out books under the Tom Clancy trademark. Steve Pieczenik, Clancy's co-writer on the Ops Center books, doesn't have anything non-Clancy listed on Amazon, for instance. Whether this is a strength or a weakness in terms of the writing depends on the particular collaboration, I suppose, although I can't think of a collaboration that I liked better than either author's solo work. However, I do think it's a definite strength for the publishing industry, as an excellent way of helping good new writers. I know MZB regarded the "Sword and Sorceress" series (correctly, I think) as an important service to the fantasy reading and writing community, as well as being a good series of interesting stories. Layla _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:05:09 -0600 From: "Howell, Tommy" To: "'mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk'" Subject: RE: Collaborations Message-ID: <5BA8DB8D54C4D3119956009027DE50C60E9FD9-+AT+-tdmnmail.tdmn.belo.com> MZB in particular brought new, lesser known authors to the fore with her "Friends of Darkover" books also, where authors all solo'd in her universe. I think I first encountered Misty and Moon in Darkover solo stories, so they weren't exactly collaborations. I also remember that MZB wrote once that Misty was inheriting the Darkover universe, but since MZB tied up a lot of loose ends, I don't think Misty should try to play there. -----Original Message----- Whether this is a strength or a weakness in terms of the writing depends on the particular collaboration, I suppose, although I can't think of a collaboration that I liked better than either author's solo work. However, I do think it's a definite strength for the publishing industry, as an excellent way of helping good new writers. I know MZB regarded the "Sword and Sorceress" series (correctly, I think) as an important service to the fantasy reading and writing community, as well as being a good series of interesting stories. ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2468 **********************************