MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2486

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Modern Companions
	by Hank Tiffany <davidt-+AT+-cet.com>
  2) Re: Music Query
	by "Abigail Laughlin" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  3) Re: Modern Companions
	by wacowizard2-+AT+-webtv.net (Greg V)
  4) Re: Speaking of...
	by Kenneth Allen Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  5) Companions & Music...
	by "Li'nia Stormdancer" <lady_stormdancer-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  6) Music Query and Sharon Green
	by Laurina Phouka-lady <phouka_lady-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  7) Re: Modern Companions
	by Nicole <fletchn-+AT+-telusplanet.net>
  8) Re: Music Query and Sharon Green
	by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
  9) Re: Music Query and Sharon Green
	by MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
 10) Re: Question and Beyond the World's End spoiler?
	by Timedancer0624-+AT+-gateway.net

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:48:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Hank Tiffany <davidt-+AT+-cet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Modern Companions
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010103064640.329A-100000-+AT+-davidt>



On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Abigail Laughlin wrote:

> <<I can't really remember what breeds of Horses Misty has compared 
> Companions to..>>
> 
> I don't recall that she ever compared Companions to an actual breed... but 
> they put me very strongly in mind of Arabians; small, slim and swift, very 
> beautiful, intelligent, and with high endurance.

Strange. I always picture draft horses. Big, tough, able to carry massive
loads. Warhorses.

Hank, git of dypos


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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 15:24:04 -0000
From: "Abigail Laughlin" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Music Query
Message-ID: <F48LpqIoEBO7NgCY19x000053df-+AT+-hotmail.com>


<<first, the question:
The setting is Knight of Ghost and Shadows. The topic is music. The question 
is, what the heck is the spelling of the name of the song. It's 
Shee-something, Shee-more? A recounting of a battle between the
unseelie and the seelie, with a really high body count.>>

I've only heard the song as an instrumental so I can't comment as to the 
lyrics. The title is "Sheebeg and Sheemore" (or, in Born To Run, Tannim 
calls it "Sidhe Beg and Sidhe Mor"). And it certainly sounds awfully perky 
for its reported subject matter. :)

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Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes;
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:40:14 -0500 (EST)
From: wacowizard2-+AT+-webtv.net (Greg V)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Modern Companions
Message-ID: <8305-3A5355EE-622-+AT+-storefull-616.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

I agree with Abigail Laughlin the Arabian would be an excellent breed
for a companion. They are a proud breed with strong delicate features
and I'm sure any former herald would be proud to come back as an arabian
or some similar breed. At the same time any herald would ride his or her
companion with pride.

          








                                                       Greg


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:24:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Kenneth Allen Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Speaking of...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.31.0101031207390.27853-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Lorna Appleby wrote:

> But as he got more successful and acknowledged, his writing starting
> sliding downhill. Everything was about sex. *EVERYTHING*. The more
> twisted and bizarre the sex, the better.

I'm not sure what books you are talking about, but his early works (not
Xanth) always had a strong awareness of sexuality and sexual themes.  The
only stuff that didn't were his books for kids ("Race Against Time").
Xanth may have been what made him famous, but he had published quite a bit
before Xanth was really established and certainly before it took over his
writing.  I was glad to see that he was starting to do some other stuff
recently, such as Tatham Mound (which is a must-read for anyone who is
interested in Native American themes in fantasy literature).

If Tatham Mound is the book you were thinking of, I would suggest reading
Popol Vuh before condemning Anthony out-of-hand for the sexual content.
The rather dark and twisted sexuality in Tatham Mound is actually a
somewhat tamer version of things in Popol Vuh (which was one of Anthony's
sources for the novel).

> and the entire panty obsession..?

I always assumed that this was a way of approximating the sexual tension
that infused his earlier (and excellent) writing while maintaining a
suitably "innocent" tone.  After all, except for the original Xanth novel,
most of the books in the series were rather heavily slanted toward a
younger audience.  It must be difficult for an author who is used to
writing about mature themes directly and well to have to eliminate those
themes or bowdlerize them.

My main objection to Anthony is that he is, like so many of the writers of
his generation, a product of his time and quite sexist.  It's not his
treatment of sex "per se" that bothers me, but rather his treatment of
female characters.  In this, he is like Robert Heinlein, Sharon Green, and
a number of other writers of that era.

totally aside, does anyone know if the Sharon Green who is writing the
"Blending" novels (highly recommended, btw) is the same Sharon Green who
wrote the Terrillian novels?  The styles are extremely similar in ways,
but vastly different in others.  The Terrillian novels are profoundly
sexist, while the Blending novels are not even close.  BTW, if sex in your
novels bothers you, don't even try to read either of these series. =)

> I don't know if she would be so petty to make pot shots at him in a
> book he'll probably never read.

Why not?  She is only human, and she does have a temper, by all reports.
Let's give her the freedom to do something petty every once in a while and
congratulate her on choosing a harmless way to express her pique (if
that's what she did).

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd
Councilor of Mist

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me

//www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/prof/



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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:06:07 -0800 (PST)
From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" <lady_stormdancer-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Companions & Music...
Message-ID: <20010103210607.23561.qmail-+AT+-web1204.mail.yahoo.com>

Heyla List-Sibs!

--- Laurina Phouka-lady <phouka_lady-+AT+-yahoo.com> wrote:
> But first, the question:
> The setting is Knight of Ghost and Shadows. The
> topic is music. The question is, what the heck is
the
> spelling of the name of the song. It's
> Shee-something, Shee-more? A recounting of a battle
between the unseelie and the seelie, with a really
high body count. Can anyone find out for me? This has
been driving me crazy for a good solid week.

I believe the name is "Sheebeg, Sheemor" (sp?).  I
also think it was mentioned in another book (perhaps a
SERRAted Edge novel?) as "Sidhe-beg, Sidhe-mor"
(again, sp? I don't have the books with me right now!)

Also, on the question of what kind of horse in our
world most closely resembles the Companions, I would
have to say Arabians.  The Companions are always
mentioned as being very graceful, with high flowing
tails and manes, and arched necks.  Very streamlined. 
Plus, they would have to be of a breed that would
accomodate the differing sizes of the Heralds (Talia
vs. Dirk).  Could you imagine people like Talia having
to clamber up on something a lot bigger?!?

Death-by-chocolate sheep to all!

=====
---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->---
             Peon to the Powers That Be, 
          Goddess of All Things Possessed, &
 Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:50:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Laurina Phouka-lady <phouka_lady-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Music Query and Sharon Green
Message-ID: <20010103235030.28395.qmail-+AT+-web205.mail.yahoo.com>

Okay, my cut and paste is being mean, so I forget who
said what, but...

Two folks mentioned the name of the song, and the bit
of triva I hadn't heard about Sidhe Beg, Sidhe Mor...

*snicker* ThankYou!!!! For Both!

As for Sharon Green - yes, she is the same author. A
couple of months ago, I ran across her email addy and
had asked if she was going to do anything more with
Inky and Co from the Mists of the Ages. Sexist, true,
but still a good read. Of course, I also love RAH.


Chocolate mint sheep for everyone!

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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:17:22 -0700
From: Nicole <fletchn-+AT+-telusplanet.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Modern Companions
Message-ID: <3A53C110.C84F806E-+AT+-telusplanet.net>

>  <<I can't really remember what breeds of Horses Misty has compared
> > Companions to..>>
> >
> > I don't recall that she ever compared Companions to an actual breed... but
> > they put me very strongly in mind of Arabians; small, slim and swift, very
> > beautiful, intelligent, and with high endurance.
>
> Strange. I always picture draft horses. Big, tough, able to carry massive
> loads. Warhorses.

Hmmm.... interesting.  I always thought them to be a bread unto themselves with
characteristics of many different types.  From the racing stock their grace,
basic shape,  stamina and speed, from the larger draft horse breeds their sheer
size (she did mention them being pretty damn tall), from the pony breeds their
amazing ability to clear almost anything in a jump and their heartiness.


Ah well, Zhai'helleva!
Purple-dipped sheep to all!

~Storm-Rider
Chosen of Companion D'Faindes
Lifebonded to IceFire
And yada, yada...

Those who dance, may be considored insane,
By those who can't hear the music...                   -Unknowen


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:02:06 EST
From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Music Query and Sharon Green
Message-ID: <79.e6f148c.2785258e-+AT+-aol.com>


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I have read her terrillian novels when they first came out, and all of her 
other writings, except her most recent ones.  Own them but haven't had much 
time for leisure reading, and so must prioritize my authors.  Enjoyed her 
simpler earlier work more. Than the more recent books.  was a bit surprised 
at the difference between her earlier and later work in tone and ideas.

Have looked and not found a web page for her as for Jennifer Roberson, or 
rosemary edgehill's, another author of some of my favorite books including a 
regency romance called Turkish delight.  Did you get any sort of answer from 
Sharon green?  I would like to see some more of her characters in mists of 
the ages, and some of her other worlds...

In a message dated 1/3/2001 6:53:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
phouka_lady-+AT+-yahoo.com writes:


> As for Sharon Green - yes, she is the same author. A
> couple of months ago, I ran across her email addy and
> had asked if she was going to do anything more with
> Inky and Co from the Mists of the Ages. Sexist, true,
> but still a good read. Of course, I also love RAH.
> 



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<BR>
<BR>Have looked and not found a web page for her as for Jennifer Roberson, or <BR>rosemary edgehill's, another author of some of my favorite books including a <BR>regency romance called Turkish delight. &nbsp;Did you get any sort of answer from <BR>Sharon green? &nbsp;I would like to see some more of her characters in mists of <BR>the ages, and some of her other worlds...
<BR>
<BR>In a message dated 1/3/2001 6:53:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, <BR>phouka_lady-+AT+-yahoo.com writes:
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<BR>couple of months ago, I ran across her email addy and
<BR>had asked if she was going to do anything more with
<BR>Inky and Co from the Mists of the Ages. Sexist, true,
<BR>but still a good read. Of course, I also love RAH.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:25:45 EST
From: MDennis460-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Music Query and Sharon Green
Message-ID: <80.50974f6.27852b19-+AT+-aol.com>


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http://www.integritytech.com/sharong.html

Did a search and found Sharon greens home page?  She has interesting novels 
available for downloading.  Address is above, in case anyone is interested.

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:23:49 EST
From: Timedancer0624-+AT+-gateway.net
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Question and Beyond the World's End spoiler?
Message-ID: <71.995a21f.278538b5-+AT+-gateway.net>

In a message dated 1/3/01 7:00:32 AM Central Standard Time, 
phouka_lady-+AT+-yahoo.com writes:

<<  heck is the
 spelling of the name of the song. It's Shee-something,
 Shee-more? A recounting of a battle between the
 unseelie and the seelie, with a really high body
 count. >>

Sheebeg Sheemore (page 14 "Bedlam's Bard")

Doreen Glynn
Live long and may the force be with you

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