MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2490 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Wheels of Fire and other SERRAted Ege books by Timedancer0624-+AT+-gateway.net 2) Ouch! & Hmmm... by "Li'nia Stormdancer" 3) Re: Wheels of Fire and other SERRAted Ege books by SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com 4) Re: Wheels of Fire and other SERRAted Ege books by "Molly McAllister" 5) Re: Mindspeech by "Layla Voll" 6) Re: Mindspeech by Ilaria1431-+AT+-aol.com 7) Re: Mindspeech by "Li'nia Stormdancer" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:24:56 EST From: Timedancer0624-+AT+-gateway.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Wheels of Fire and other SERRAted Ege books Message-ID: In a message dated 1/7/01 4:21:50 AM Central Standard Time, sheridan_hoy-+AT+-yahoo.co.nz writes: << Question again (sorry). I believe there is a new book about Eric Bayon - is that Beyond World's End?. What did everyone think - without spoilers please since I (and I am sure a number of others) have yet to read it :). >> Read it. Loved it. It kind of introduces you to a new and improved bard. It also pave the way for a sequel or two. Maybe spoiler..................page down Anybody else see a possible connection to Di Tregarde in the future? THAT WOULD BE TOO COOL! Doreen Glynn Live long and may the force be with you ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:33:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Ouch! & Hmmm... Message-ID: <20010107213311.3952.qmail-+AT+-web1204.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla List-Sibs! *Li'nia bows in Cennydd's direction, a wry grin on her face when she comes back up. She could hear Styx's laughter in her mind, and she aimed a half-hearted kick in his direction. She'd earned the Councilor's rejoinder to her last message... Shaking her head a little, she went back over to a seat on the edge of the Arena...* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Sheridan Hoy wrote: > Also, just to raise discussion - if you could meet > either the SERRA elves or the Heralds, who would you > pick?. I would love to be able to meet either; however, my first choice would be to meet the elves. Those stories actually take place in a reality closer to our own... I mean, I'm a little bit of a techno-geek, and if meeting the Heralds and Companions requires going to THEIR world, I'd freak out! And to whoever was asking if Joe or Jamie make any other appearances in Misty's books, well... Jamie hasn't resurfaced yet, but Joe makes a very strong appearance in "Chrome Circle". ===== ---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->--- Peon to the Powers That Be, Goddess of All Things Possessed, & Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:24:00 EST From: SEANSQ-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Wheels of Fire and other SERRAted Ege books Message-ID: <65.e2fc12c.278a5490-+AT+-aol.com> --part1_65.e2fc12c.278a5490_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/2001 5:20:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, sheridan_hoy-+AT+-yahoo.co.nz writes: > Question again (sorry). I believe there is a new book > about Eric Bayon - is that Beyond World's End?. What > did everyone think - without spoilers please since I > (and I am sure a number of others) have yet to read it > :). > > Also, just to raise discussion - if you could meet > either the SERRA elves or the Heralds, who would you > Just had this book delivered from Amazon and so far so good. I'm nursing a broken shoulder (right and I'm right handed) so have been out of work for the last 4 weeks and probably the next 4 as well. Since I am dying of boredom and daytime TV, I am strictly rationing myself to one chapter a day to make it last. (chuckle). I would love to meet one of the elves and definitely take a ride on an elvensteed!! Meg Councilor of Mist --part1_65.e2fc12c.278a5490_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/2001 5:20:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sheridan_hoy-+AT+-yahoo.co.nz writes:


Question again (sorry). I believe there is a new book
about Eric Bayon - is that Beyond World's End?. What
did everyone think - without spoilers please since I
(and I am sure a number of others) have yet to read it
:).

Also, just to raise discussion - if you could meet
either the SERRA elves or the Heralds, who would you
pick?.
Just had this book delivered from Amazon and so far so good. I'm nursing a
broken shoulder (right and I'm right handed) so have been out of work for the
last 4 weeks and probably the next 4 as well. Since I am dying of boredom and
daytime TV, I am strictly rationing myself to one chapter a day to make it
last. (chuckle).

I would love to meet one of the elves and definitely take a ride on an
elvensteed!!

Meg
Councilor of Mist --part1_65.e2fc12c.278a5490_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:28:54 -0000 From: "Molly McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Wheels of Fire and other SERRAted Ege books Message-ID: >sheridan_hoy-+AT+-yahoo.co.nz writes: > > Also, just to raise discussion - if you could meet > > either the SERRA elves or the Heralds, who would you > > > Okay, this is a good question, but I think that I would like to meet the Heralds, just so we could definately solve the "What breed does a Companion most resemble" question. Starshadow ducks as a sheep comes flying at her head. Starshadow looks around to see who threw it and see Lightsong with that "oh so innocent" look on her face. Lightsong! Okay, do you want a better reason, I don't know, I have always wanted to meet a real Herald because it would be kind of nice to know for a fact that there are people out there with values that aren't svrewed up. Starshadow* Royal Defender of the Brat She'enedra to Lightsong _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:33:15 From: "Layla Voll" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Mindspeech Message-ID: Sara Peek writes: >Mindspeech, I believe, is considered more of an >auxilary gift. Nearly every Herald has a bit, though >it isn't everyone's specialty, and some, like Skif, >have only the tiniest bit. However, Talia has *none*, >which seems rare among Heralds. Therefore she and >Rolan have a mindlink but cannot speak in words. Agreed: Talia's complete lack of Mindspeech seems somewhat unusual. It also seems as if her Empathy is also unusual, in that it is exceptionally strong, and that Empathy might be diametrically opposed to Mindspeech in some ways. When she was in Gifts class, IIRC, they have problems figuring her Gift out at first, because it seems as if you go about using it very differently than you do Mindspeech: when they finally realize what her Gift is, they make the comment that they had been telling her that in order to use Mindspeech, she needed to completely clear her mind of all outside stimuli, especially emotions, and that it wasn't until they stopped telling her to do that that she could receive and project emotions. So perhaps the very strength of Talia's Empathy prevents her from using Mindspeech in some way. I'm not entirely sure about this: it doesn't seem as if Mindspeech is completely devoid of emotion, given the many instances when a Companion's Mindspeech is described as "amused" or "wry" or some other emotion-laden word. On the other hand, when Ylsa dies, Kyril (who obviously has a very strong Mindspeech gift) says that he only got the words of what she sent, without any of the emotion or sense, and he needed Talia to interpret what she had said. So perhaps Mindspeech is really a combination of projecting words and emotions, and that being too strong in one side of that combination blocks the other. As for what Rolan "said" to Talia when he Chose her, I personally think that what she got from him wasn't words, exactly, but the overwhelming *feeling* of being Chosen (and loved and accepted, and everything else). Layla Layla Voll Layla_Voll-+AT+-hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 06:15:36 EST From: Ilaria1431-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Mindspeech Message-ID: --part1_c1.a7ffc0f.278afb58_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/01 11:59:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, layla_voll-+AT+-hotmail.com writes: > As for what Rolan "said" to Talia when he Chose her, I personally think that > what she got from him wasn't words, exactly, but the overwhelming *feeling* > of being Chosen (and loved and accepted, and everything else). > > Actually, iirc, didn't Teren assure all the students in Orientation class that even if they never heard their Companions Speak to them again, it was certain that, at Choosing, they DID Speak? Herald Jacquelle "Why is that when you talk to God, you're praying, but when God talks to you, you're nuts?" Monica, Touched by an Angel --part1_c1.a7ffc0f.278afb58_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/7/01 11:59:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
layla_voll-+AT+-hotmail.com writes:


As for what Rolan "said" to Talia when he Chose her, I personally think that
what she got from him wasn't words, exactly, but the overwhelming *feeling*
of being Chosen (and loved and accepted, and everything else).




Actually, iirc, didn't Teren assure all the students in Orientation class
that even if they never heard their Companions Speak to them again, it was
certain that, at Choosing, they DID Speak?

Herald Jacquelle

"Why is that when you talk to God, you're praying, but when God talks to you,
you're nuts?"  Monica, Touched by an Angel --part1_c1.a7ffc0f.278afb58_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:04:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Mindspeech Message-ID: <20010108160459.11945.qmail-+AT+-web1205.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla List-Sibs! --- Layla Voll wrote: > I'm not entirely sure about this: it doesn't seem as > if Mindspeech is completely devoid of emotion, given >the many instances when a Companion's Mindspeech is >described as "amused" or "wry" or some other emotion->laden word. On the other hand, when Ylsa dies, Kyril >(who obviously has a very strong Mindspeech gift) >says that he only got the words of what she sent, > without any of the emotion or sense, and he needed > Talia to interpret what she had said. So perhaps >Mindspeech is really a combination of projecting > words and emotions, and that being too strong in one > side of that combination blocks the other. I agree that the strength of Talia's Empathy possibly negates her ability to MindSpeak. There do seem to be emotions sent along with any MindSpeech. However, her Gift is so strong that she can actually "see" images that are attached to extremely strong emotions. They proved this with Ylsa and with the other Herald-trainee (sorry, forgot the name!) who sent images of his childhood that were accompanied by very strong emotions. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > As for what Rolan "said" to Talia when he Chose her, > I personally think that what she got from him wasn't >words, exactly, but the overwhelming *feeling* > of being Chosen (and loved and accepted, and > everything else). Here, I believe that he did in fact speak to her at the time of the Choosing. IIRC, Teren mentioned it during a class; even if they never MindSpeak with their Companions again, they DO MindSpeak during Choosing. However, she did receive the emotions Rolan sent her at that time as well... that is, IIRC... lol ===== ---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->--- Peon to the Powers That Be, Goddess of All Things Possessed, & Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2490 **********************************