MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2532

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 2531
	by "Abigail Laughlin" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
  2) Re: Who is Mornelithe?
	by "Li'nia Stormdancer" <lady_stormdancer-+AT+-yahoo.com>
  3) RE: Mage Wars
	by "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
  4) RE: Who is Mornelithe?
	by "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
  5) Re: Who is Mornelithe?
	by Tigerrose0930-+AT+-aol.com

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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:48:32 -0000
From: "Abigail Laughlin" <abbykat-+AT+-hotmail.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 2531
Message-ID: <F31sfOlyIhJm3mdlF1r0000eb05-+AT+-hotmail.com>

<<As for praying in battle, I think that many religions would frown on it, 
and not just in Valdemar.  The concensus is that non-believers are just 
misguided, and shouldn't be overly punished for that.>>

Actually, in the real-world historical sense, the general consensus is 
usually "convert or die"--at least insofar as Christianity and Islam went; 
I'm not familiar enough with other major religions to make a call there. I 
mean, consider modern-day Christianity... there are a distressing number of 
Christians whose sales pitch is "accept Jesus, or you'll go to hell!" You 
even had different factions of Christianity killing one another off at 
times.

But arguing religion never fails to get messy, at least in my experience. 
People take it personally. :)

Re: The Mage Wars:
Without going into much plot detail... The Black Gryphon was great, but 
after that things sort of fell apart; I found The White Gryphon to be only 
so-so, and The Silver Gryphon all but unreadable in places. I could have 
lived with TBG as a stand-alone.

TSG annoyed me in particular because the whole point of the story, in the 
beginning, was supposedly Blade and Tad escaping the shadows of their 
parents--and then their characters in the book were eclipsed by Skan and 
Amberdrake

<<As i think Mornelite was also in the MAgic war's trilogy. But I'm not 
sure, that who was he? Was he hadnelith from "the white gryphon" or Ma'ar 
from "the black gryphon?". And who was he? Is he deamon or something like 
that?>>

My dear--that would be telling. ;)

More seriously, this is such a major plot point that I don't like the notion 
of answering it on the list. Though if you read the books in chronological 
order (Mage Wars and Last Herald-Mage before Mage Winds) it's answered 
fairly plainly.

In fact, I think Misty comes out and tells you rather blatantly in the many 
parts of Winds that were written from Mornelithe Falconsbane's point of 
view.

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Member of the Mistic Circle,
Webmaster of the Circle of Stone,
Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes;
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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:14:01 -0800 (PST)
From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" <lady_stormdancer-+AT+-yahoo.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Who is Mornelithe?
Message-ID: <20010305021401.9515.qmail-+AT+-web1202.mail.yahoo.com>

Heyla List-Sibs!

--- Gondar <gondar-+AT+-mynet.waw.pl> wrote:
> As i think Mornelite was also in the MAgic war's
> trilogy. But I'm not sure,
> that who was he? Was he hadnelith from "the white
> gryphon" or Ma'ar from
> "the black gryphon?". And who was he? Is he deamon
> or something like that?


***Possible Spoiler from "Storm" Trilogy***




Now, this is all from my memory, since I don't have my
books with me right now.  Somehow, Ma'ar managed to
hide his spirit in his descendants.  These people
later were known as Mornedelth Falconsbane (sp?) and
later Andesha.  I think he may have even been the evil
sorcerer that Vanyel killed during his time.  If you
read the "Winds" Trilogy and then the "Storm" Trilogy,
I think it will explain the process to you.  I'm not
sure if they even knew that they were the descendants
of Ma'ar and possessed by his evil until Andesha
figured it out.  Of course, if I'm completely wrong
here, someone please jump in and correct me! lol

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          Goddess of All Things Possessed, &
 Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:48:42 -0500
From: "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Mage Wars
Message-ID: <000b01c0a57a$fe2c8ea0$7201a8c0-+AT+-rmartin1>

> > For another topic, I have noticed that we rarely
> > discuss the Mage Wars
> > series on this list. I just finished reading them,
> > and I though that they
> > were pretty good excpet for the last one which took
> > a little effort to get
> > though. What was everyone else's tkae on those
> books?

I'll have to say my opinion is a little biased.  You see, the first Misty
book I read was Black Gryphon and that's what hooked me.

I think the characters in Black Gryphon were what truly drew me in.  I liked
Amberdrake's depth and, of course, Skandranon was simply marvelous.  Not
having read the other series first, I had no knowledge that this was sort of
a prequel to Mage Storms etc so I approached it as a book in and of itself.

I will agree with what someone else said.  Silver Gryphon left something to
be desired.  It was almost like that book was written for no other reason
than to fill out a trilogy.  White Gryphon, on the other hand, was a very
nice book as well.  I enjoyed reading about the Heighleigh and their culture
and how the remnents of Urtho's people integrated into that society.

Shoo-fly flavored sheep to all.

Tristaan


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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:23:32 -0500
From: "Robert Martin" <rmartin-+AT+-gatewayticketing.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Who is Mornelithe?
Message-ID: <000c01c0a57f$dba6df70$7201a8c0-+AT+-rmartin1>

> Now, this is all from my memory, since I don't have my
> books with me right now.  Somehow, Ma'ar managed to
> hide his spirit in his descendants.  These people
> later were known as Mornedelth Falconsbane (sp?) and
> later Andesha.  I think he may have even been the evil
> sorcerer that Vanyel killed during his time.  If you
> read the "Winds" Trilogy and then the "Storm" Trilogy,
> I think it will explain the process to you.  I'm not
> sure if they even knew that they were the descendants
> of Ma'ar and possessed by his evil until Andesha
> figured it out.  Of course, if I'm completely wrong
> here, someone please jump in and correct me! lol

Actually, it wasn't Ma'ar hiding in his descendants.  He was actually hidden
in some sort of spirit realm protected by a weave of blood magic (ref Mage
Winds "Winds of Fury")).  There was some sort of trigger that Ma'ar had
devised that, when one of his descendants managed to cast a fire-making
spell, his spirit would possess the body of that descendant.

Tristaan


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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:35:35 EST
From: Tigerrose0930-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Who is Mornelithe?
Message-ID: <93.7bc4a3f.27d55297-+AT+-aol.com>

If I remember correctly he was Ma'ar from Black Gryphon.  I can't remember 
exactly what he was, which tells me I need to break out those books and read 
them again.

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