MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2541 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: When in lack of Misty... by "Abigail Laughlin" 2) Re: other books by "Liz Hoffman" 3) RE: When in lack of Misty... by "Robert Martin" 4) Re: When in lack of Misty... by "Liz Hoffman" 5) Re: When in lack of Misty... by "Layla Voll" 6) Re: other books by Lish Monahan 7) Re: other books by Hank Tiffany 8) Re: other books by Brooke Alexander 9) Re: When in lack of Misty... by "Li'nia Stormdancer" 10) Re: other books by Kenneth Allen Hyde 11) Re: When in lack of Misty... by Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com 12) so much room to play with re:other books by J80Kath-+AT+-aol.com 13) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by "Li'nia Stormdancer" 14) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by J80Kath-+AT+-aol.com 15) RE: other books by "Robert Martin" 16) Re: other books by "Rebecca McAllister" 17) RE: When in lack of Misty... by Barbara Hallock 18) Re: When in lack of Misty... by "Devin Alicia Harris" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:18:53 -0000 From: "Abigail Laughlin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: <> Some caveats with regards to Laurell K. Hamilton: I *highly* recommend the first three books of the Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter series (Guilty Pleasures, The Laughing Corpse, and The Circus Of The Damned), but the series starts going quickly downhill after that, focusing more on the lead characters' inventive sexual escapades instead of on the things that made the series so cool. I haven't read A Kiss Of Shadows, but I've heard it's similarly sex-driven. On the other hand, her stand-alone fantasy novel, Nightseer, was quite good. <> Melisa Michaels is extremely good, especially Sister to the Rain (which I read first)--Cold Iron is also good, but rather darker. They are a bit like the SERRAted Edge, except that the elves are publically known and accepted. Cold Iron is about an elfrock band made up of elves and halflings (half-elves). <> Sword-Dancer, etc is another series that I started out really liking and then got annoyed with; Del, one of the two main characters, just gets progressively more irritating. <> Yeah, I wouldn't exactly call Hawk & Fisher "light fantasy". :) Green doesn't get really nasty about his writing, but he doesn't hesitate to kill people messily and tell you all about it. His style is rather irreverent and snarky. On a side note, you can read Hawk and Fisher before you read the Blue Moon novels--in fact, I recommend it, as it makes for a pleasant surprise around the end of Blue Moon Rising. I wouldn't recommend reading Beyond The BLue Moon first, though. <> She put out a book called The Tough Guide To Fantasyland, which as an amateur writer I found *hysterical*. Another recommendation I'd make is J. D. Robb's '...in Death' series (starting with Naked In Death and progressing through Glory, Immortal, Rapture, Ceremony, Vengeance, Holiday, Conspiracy, Loyalty, Witness, and Judgement in Death), a pseudo-futuristic mystery series. Robb's setting of 2058/59 New York City is colorful and interesting, and her characters are equally vivid. This is another series that doesn't hesitate to kill people messily, and it brushes some other rough issues, but it never gets really dark. ...oh, and the sex is great. :) Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, Member of the Mistic Circle, Webmaster of the Circle of Stone, Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes; http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ - The Labyrinth _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:07:19 -0000 From: "Liz Hoffman" To: Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: <000b01c0acd3$244ee100$7b63073e-+AT+-oemcomputer> Thought I'd add an author to the ones I already mentioned. Sarah who's on this list too (moonstalker) introduced me to Anne Bishop Black Jewels trilogy, Daughter of the Blood, Heir to the Shadows and Queen of Darkness. I gave way and ordered the lot in paperback today. Rather on the dark side but totally engrossing, the new one set in the same world (Invisible Ring) is forgettable. I also gave way and ordered Serpent's Shadow, what's it like? I loved Fire Rose so much that I thought that I got S's S instead of Beyond World's End, was I right? I really don't think this is a spoiler as Storm Breaking was 4 Valdemar books ago (3 owls and BB), but I'll put a spoiler space in just in case. S P O I L E R On the ObMisty front who would everyone like to hear more about? I'm going to go for Tremaine, after all his now got a succession to ensure so he needs to make a good political marriage. And are there now envoys human or no from Iftel at the court in Valdemar. What I'd really like to know though is, at the end of SB when Mellis (or whatever his name was) assassinated the emperor of the Eastern Empire (forgotten his name, books at parent's) all the magic the emperor had gathered for his grand suicide/ revenge spell went to ground in either the throne or the crown. New emperor now sitting on / wearing said items, sounds like a rogue heartstone to me, wouldn't that drive him bonkers? I was expecting to see something in the Owls books about it but I guess I was wrong (or travels still a bit restricted in the empire and its in one of the future books). Liz Hoffman E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:05:33 -0500 From: "Robert Martin" To: Subject: RE: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: <000001c0acd2$e4993790$7201a8c0-+AT+-rmartin1> Has anyone mentioned Douglas Adams inaccurately named Hitchhiker's Guide Trilogy? The first three books were great, number 4 was Okay, number 5 was weird. Tristaan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:12:45 -0000 From: "Liz Hoffman" To: Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: <001901c0acd3$e6de9e40$7b63073e-+AT+-oemcomputer> I tried to send this once before and my email program decided to commit an illegal operation and self destruct in nought seconds, so apologies if you have this already. Thought I'd add an author to the ones I already mentioned. Sarah who's on this list too (moonstalker) introduced me to Anne Bishop Black Jewels trilogy, Daughter of the Blood, Heir to the Shadows and Queen of Darkness. I gave way and ordered the lot in paperback today. Rather on the dark side but totally engrossing, the new one set in the same world (Invisible Ring) is forgettable. I also gave way and ordered Serpent's Shadow, what's it like? I loved Fire Rose so much that I thought that I got S's S instead of Beyond World's End, was I right? I really don't think this is a spoiler as Storm Breaking was 4 Valdemar books ago (3 owls and BB), but I'll put a spoiler space in just in case. S P O I L E R On the ObMisty front who would everyone like to hear more about? I'm going to go for Tremaine, after all his now got a succession to ensure so he needs to make a good political marriage. And are there now envoys human or no from Iftel at the court in Valdemar. What I'd really like to know though is, at the end of SB when Mellis (or whatever his name was) assassinated the emperor of the Eastern Empire (forgotten his name, books at parent's) all the magic the emperor had gathered for his grand suicide/ revenge spell went to ground in either the throne or the crown. New emperor now sitting on / wearing said items, sounds like a rogue heartstone to me, wouldn't that drive him bonkers? I was expecting to see something in the Owls books about it but I guess I was wrong (or travels still a bit restricted in the empire and its in one of the future books). Liz Hoffman E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:22:55 From: "Layla Voll" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: Abigail Laughlin writes: >Another recommendation I'd make is J. D. Robb's '...in Death' series >(starting with Naked In Death and progressing through Glory, Immortal, >Rapture, Ceremony, Vengeance, Holiday, Conspiracy, Loyalty, Witness, and >Judgement in Death), a pseudo-futuristic mystery series. Robb's setting of >2058/59 New York City is colorful and interesting, and her characters are >equally vivid. This is another series that doesn't hesitate to kill people >messily, and it brushes some other rough issues, but it never gets really >dark. >..oh, and the sex is great. :) It should be, seeing as how JD Robb also writes as romance novelist Nora Roberts. The "..In Death" series is fantastic. I especially love the futuristic New York City setting -- it's all very real and vivid, and NYPD Lieutenant Eve Dallas is a wonderful heroine. Also, speaking of things that Mercedes Lackey has actually been involved with, she wrote a couple of stories for volumes 3 and 4 of the Elfquest "Blood of Ten Chiefs" anthologies, edited by Richard Pini, and the rest of stories in those anthologies are also entertaining (volume 1 includes stories by Lynn Abbey, Robert Aspirin, Diana L. Paxson, and Janny Wurts). And Elfquest itself is spectacular: a long-running comics series, now collected into graphic novels called "Elfquest Reader's Collections." Volumes 1 through 4 make up the original quest and (IMHO) the best story. Layla _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:35:24 -0500 (EST) From: Lish Monahan To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: > J.R.R Tolkien never released any books, everything he wrote was in > manuscript form when he died his son christopher tolkien released the > books, tis why i've never shelled out £150 for the signed books cos > tis the son who signed em not the dad, i'll be honest i think J.R.R > would have cut down some on the desc's of stuff like fields etc etc if > he'd compiled the books himself. Ummm... actually that's not true. The Hobbit was first published in 1937. The various books of the Lord of the Rings were published in the 1950's. Tolkien didn't die until 1973. So... if you chech the publication date of those books, and check the authenticity there ARE signed copies of the novels out there. Actually my college library has a signed copy of the Silmarillion, which was also released before Tolkien's death. Its only the newest books, volumes 6-13 I think, The Lost Tales I and II, The Beleriand, The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, etc, that have been compiled from Tolkien's manuscripts by Christopher and subsequently published. And don't knock Tolkien. I find that the older I get and the more experience I have with literature the more I appreciate what a masterpiece those early books are. Once I'd plowed my way though all of the pre- 14th century Arthuriana texts, War and Peace, Beowulf (not in translation), the Mabinogion, and all of the other works that influenced Tolkien, I found all sorts of new facets to his work. The great thing about the books is that you can read them 18 times and still come away with something new. I even -finally- made my way through The Silmarillion, which at times in painfully like certain portions of the Old Testament and the old Celtic creation myths, but if you dig deeply you can actually find J.R.R.'s dry sense of humour in there. Certainly not a light read, though. Sorry for the exposition. A friend is writing her M.A. dissertation on the books, so I've been getting an earful lately myself. Lish ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:19:54 -0800 (PST) From: Hank Tiffany To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, david Goodwin wrote: > J.R.R Tolkien never released any books, everything he wrote was in > manuscript form when he died his son christopher tolkien released the > books, Sorry, wrong. The Hobbit was originally published in 1937 The three books which make up The Lord of the Rings were published in 1954-1955. Prof. Tolkien also published several other books of short stories & poetry, mostly having nothing to do with Middle Earth, before his death. Chris Tolkien, who btw had heard all the Middle Earth stories as his bedtime stories as a lad, pulled the stories about the First Age of the world together as much as possible (some of them had last been revised before WWII) after his father's death and published them as the Silmarillion (1977.) He then did the same with various Middle Earth stories, which were even less complete and/or had various versions floating about, published as Unfinished Tales (1980) Unfinished Tales, btw, includes the only stories set in the 2nd age & early part of the Third age. After that, young Mr. Tolkien went on to put forth, for the utter completist, the original versions (from the 20's) of everything (The Book of Lost Tales) but I didn't bother with those as I would not consider them canonical. Interesting if you want to see how the stories evolved, I suppose. I'm hoping we won't re-open the question of the quality of Tolkien, as that has skated close to flame war in the past, until those on the list at the time basically agreed to disagree on this. For the record though, Lord of the Rings is one of the few books I re-read at least once a year (for the last 28 years or so.) Also, there were fantasy books set in semi-mideval worlds of the authors imagining written in the late 19th century[1] so I'd hardly call JRR "The Father of Fantasy" or whatever it was someone said earlier. Hank Tiffany, gOd pg tuops [1] One that rather leaps to my mind is "The Well At the World's End" by William Morris (1896) being the story of Ralph of Upmeads and his beloved Ursula and their trip to Utterbol and hither. Great story, if you can make it thru the dialect it's written in. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:50:52 -0800 From: Brooke Alexander To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: <3AB02E0C.323EFCD3-+AT+-telerama.com> I think it all depends on your taste :) SOme people like him, some don't. I know I don't and I tried to read his books 4-5 times. Thanks, Brooke Lish Monahan wrote: > > > And don't knock Tolkien. I find that the older I get and the more > experience I have with literature the more I appreciate what a masterpiece > those early books are. Once I'd plowed my way though all of the pre- > 14th century Arthuriana texts, War and Peace, Beowulf (not in > translation), the Mabinogion, and all of the other works that influenced > Tolkien, I found all sorts of new facets to his work. The great thing > about the books is that you can read them 18 times and still come away > with something new. I even -finally- made my way through The Silmarillion, > which at times in painfully like certain portions of the Old Testament and > the old Celtic creation myths, but if you dig deeply you can actually find > J.R.R.'s dry sense of humour in there. Certainly not a light read, though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:24:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: <20010315002449.27682.qmail-+AT+-web1203.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla List-Sibs! --- Layla Voll wrote: > Also, speaking of things that Mercedes Lackey has > actually been involved with, she wrote a couple of >stories for volumes 3 and 4 of the Elfquest > "Blood of Ten Chiefs" anthologies, edited by Richard > Pini, and the rest of stories in those anthologies >are also entertaining (volume 1 includes stories by >Lynn Abbey, Robert Aspirin, Diana L. Paxson, and >Janny Wurts). > > And Elfquest itself is spectacular: a long-running > comics series, now collected into graphic novels >called "Elfquest Reader's Collections." > Volumes 1 through 4 make up the original quest and > (IMHO) the best story. Yes!! I happen to be a great fan of the "ElfQuest" books and graphic novels. I have almost all of them now... Not too dark, not too cheerful, full of elves. I've read what Misty has done for the series, and I happen to like it a lot. Also, one author I haven't mentioned is Emma Bull. Her book, "War For The Oaks", is a rather humorous fantasy book involving the Seleigh and UnSeleigh Courts and rock-n-roll. However, the nice difference is that there are other types besides elves as the focus. I must also recommend L.E. Modesitt. Can't remember if someone else has or not. I'm a huge fan of the "Darksong" Trilogy, and I'm fond of the other "Recluse" books as well. Another author is J.V. Jones. Can't remember the name of the trilogy, but the books are "The Baker's Boy", "A Man Betrayed", and "Master and Fool". Another book by her, which is a very good stand-alone, is called "The Barbed Coil". Takes art to a whole new realm. ===== ---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->--- Peon to the Powers That Be, Goddess of All Things Possessed, & Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:59:24 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Allen Hyde To: Misty Lackey List Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Hank Tiffany wrote: > [1] One that rather leaps to my mind is "The Well At the World's End" > by William Morris (1896) being the story of Ralph of Upmeads and his > beloved Ursula and their trip to Utterbol and hither. Great story, if > you can make it thru the dialect it's written in. For that matter, one can very easily argue that fantasy fiction has be present as a fictional genre practically from the beginning of the novelistic form, and in turn is based on pre-novelistic fantasy fiction. The popularity has varied at different times, and certainly the style has changed enormously, but there is an unbroken thread that runs from such early examples of fantastic literature as "La Morte d'Arthur" to the most current novels. Tolkien's two main contributions were in his popularizing the world-building style of fantasy fiction writing and his explicating the "Secondary World" model. He accomplished the former with the Hobbit and the LotR; whatever some people may think of his writing style, there is no denying that he is still one of the most popular fantasy authors and his books are still being printed and selling like hotcakes. The second contribution was accomplished with the publication of his paper "On Fairy Stories," in which he discourses on the idea of primary and secondary worlds and the issues that affect the secondary world. His oft-given title of "Father of (Modern) Fantasy" is due to these contributions (particularly the former) and not to the fact that he was the first fantasy fiction author. Oh, and btw, his other main contribution in life was as a brilliant philologist and scholar of early English. =) May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd Councilor of Mist Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me //www.ling.udel.edu/hyde/prof/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:44:39 EST From: Paustinnew-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/14/01 7:13:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk writes: << also gave way and ordered Serpent's Shadow, what's it like? I loved Fire Rose so much that I thought that I got S's S instead of Beyond World's End, was I right? >> I am in the middle of reading Serpent's Shadow now. I won't give away anything, but I think it's definitely one of the best of Misty's I've read recently. It's a little more adult than some of her books -- no offense intended to anyone, but I got a little tired of some of them -- including the Gryphon series and Brightly Burning. This one is definitely holding my interest. And kudos to the person who set the record straight on Tolkien's writing career. Not all of his books are to everyone's taste -- I like the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, but never could drag myself through some of his other books, like the Silmarillion. As far as non-Misty books go -- I would recommend any Harry Potter book (including the two "textbooks" that just came out), as well as anything by Robin McKinley, including "Spindle's End," and "Rose Daughter." Bright days to you all. Pam, who goes by Map ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:14:47 EST From: J80Kath-+AT+-aol.com To: Subject: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: <3a.122ac289.27e17f95-+AT+-aol.com> This is something that I have always been curious about as well. Finding out what is going on in the Empire would be fun. I would even like to go back to White Griffin and see how things are going there. There is so much room for more stories in Misty's world, I hope she continues to at least write a few more. Does anyone know what the next velgarth book is going to be about...the one after "Brightly Burning." I thought someone mentioned something about Skifs early years, but I didn't see how you could go much earlier than when he met talia. Jennie << On the ObMisty front who would everyone like to hear more about? I'm going to go for Tremaine, after all his now got a succession to ensure so he needs to make a good political marriage. And are there now envoys human or no from Iftel at the court in Valdemar. What I'd really like to know though is, at the end of SB when Mellis (or whatever his name was) assassinated the emperor of the Eastern Empire (forgotten his name, books at parent's) all the magic the emperor had gathered for his grand suicide/ revenge spell went to ground in either the throne or the crown. New emperor now sitting on / wearing said items, sounds like a rogue heartstone to me, wouldn't that drive him bonkers? I was expecting to see something in the Owls books about it but I guess I was wrong (or travels still a bit restricted in the empire and its in one of the future books). Liz Hoffman E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:22:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Li'nia Stormdancer" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: <20010315042213.16578.qmail-+AT+-web1201.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla List-Sibs! --- J80Kath-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > This is something that I have always been curious > about as well. Finding out what is going on in the > Empire would be fun. I would even like to go back > to White Griffin and see how things are going there. > There is so much room for more stories in Misty's > world, I hope she continues to at least write a few > more. > > Does anyone know what the next velgarth book is > going to be about...the one after "Brightly > Burning." > I thought someone mentioned something about Skifs > early years, but I didn't see how you could go much > earlier than when he met talia. I, too, would like to see some other stories about Velgarth. I would like to see how life settles down after the Storm Trilogy. Not from the viewpoint of the Owl Trilogy, but involving some of the characters that had been in the Storm books. I know we see Kerowyn, Firesong, and Silverfox again, but, honestly, I could never warm to Firesong or Silverfox. Plus, Kero was kind of a supporting character, not a main one. However, I think there's only so far that you can take a story. The main problems have been solved in Velgarth... I can't see too many other books coming out that would extend futher than the previous books. Unless, of course, the new Emporer Mellis of the Eastern Empire starts causing more problems... I think I've read on here before that there won't be any books about the Founding of Valdemar (although I'd love to read it!), although there may be one on Skif. I'd also like to see one on the Founding of Iftel, although it is explained a little in "Storm Breaking". Maybe not a probability for any of these, but one can wish, can't one? And as for White Gryphon... IIRC, aren't the ones who call themselves k'Leshya the descendants of that place? Or am I getting my Clans mixed up? Who knows! lol I'm working the graveyard shift here, so my brain is a bit muddled right now... ===== ---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->--- Peon to the Powers That Be, Goddess of All Things Possessed, & Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:36:11 EST From: J80Kath-+AT+-aol.com To: Subject: Re: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: Yes, the K'Leshya in the later books are from while griffin. But I would like to see what is actually going on in white griffin. Maybe have one of the characters from Valdamar go there, some diplomatic mission, or whatever. Ah, well here's to hoping. jennie Rambler Extrodinaire << And as for White Gryphon... IIRC, aren't the ones who call themselves k'Leshya the descendants of that place? Or am I getting my Clans mixed up? Who knows! lol I'm working the graveyard shift here, so my brain is a bit muddled right now... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:48:04 -0500 From: "Robert Martin" To: Subject: RE: other books Message-ID: <000201c0ad56$901d5cd0$7201a8c0-+AT+-rmartin1> > Tolkien's two main contributions were in his popularizing the > world-building style of fantasy fiction writing and his > explicating the > "Secondary World" model. He accomplished the former with the > Hobbit and > the LotR; whatever some people may think of his writing > style, there is no > denying that he is still one of the most popular fantasy > authors and his > books are still being printed and selling like hotcakes. The second > contribution was accomplished with the publication of his > paper "On Fairy > Stories," in which he discourses on the idea of primary and secondary > worlds and the issues that affect the secondary world. His oft-given > title of "Father of (Modern) Fantasy" is due to these contributions > (particularly the former) and not to the fact that he was the first > fantasy fiction author. > > Oh, and btw, his other main contribution in life was as a brilliant > philologist and scholar of early English. =) Which helped give him the ability to create the languages in Middle Earth. That's something else that he did a lot of ground work for. The Dwarvish, Elven, and Morder languages of Middle-Earth are fully formed and developed with grammer and syntax, etc. Something to be amazed at considering the complexity of even the English language. Tristaan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:34:29 From: "Rebecca McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: Heyla listsibs, Just a few comments to make. >Yes, the K'Leshya in the later books are from while griffin. But I would like to see what is actually going on in white griffin. Maybe have one of the characters from Valdamar go there, some diplomatic mission, or whatever.< I think that I would like to see this too. It is explained a lttle in the Owl series, I would like to see more detail. It probably won't happen, but it's nice to hope.> Storm Breaking/Possibly Owlflight(depending on what you idea of a spoiler is) Spoiler(how do we decide when something is off the spoier list anyways?) S P O I L E R >at the end of SB when Mellis (or whatever his name was) assassinated >the emperor of the Eastern Empire (forgotten his name, books at parent's) Emporer Charliss >all the magic the emperor had gathered for his grand suicide/ revenge spell >went to ground in either the throne or the crown. New emperor now sitting >on / wearing said items, sounds like a rogue heartstone to me, wouldn't >that >drive him bonkers? I was expecting to see something in the Owls books >about >it but I guess I was wrong (or travels still a bit restricted in the empire >and its in one of the future books). > >Liz Hoffman >E.G.Hoffman-+AT+-soton.ac.uk > I Would have liked to have that explained a little too, but it is a very far away place and k' Valedmar is kind of in the middle of no where. I think it was mentioned that they didn't get visits from heralds very often. Even if they did, It wasn't really important for ordinary townsfolk to know what was gong on with the leadership with another country. Anyways, what I am trying tto say, is that while the info would have been nice, it also would have been a little out of place. Chocolate covered strawberry sheep to all, Becca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:51:49 -0800 (PST) From: Barbara Hallock To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: RE: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: <33423175.984667909857.JavaMail.imail-+AT+-slippery> >Has anyone mentioned Douglas Adams inaccurately named Hitchhiker's >Guide Trilogy? The first three books were great, number 4 was Okay, >number 5 was weird. *shudders* I hated the first and never went on to read the rest. As a matter of fact, I don't think i ever finished the first. It was just too boring. Not to say that they weren't written well, because I loved the babel fish thing (sort of; I have a sick mind). But the plot was, well... nonexistent. or at least sort of like what they did with the movie Dude, Where's My Car- a series of sketches (comedy-like) with a pathetic attempt to work a plot into it. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:53:12 -0800 From: "Devin Alicia Harris" To: Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: <006101c0ad70$78ba6dc0$85811c0c-+AT+-computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0AD2D.5DD2BF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable War for the Oaks wouldn't happen to have a Poohka in it, would it? = 'Cause if it does, it may be a book I've been trying to find to re-read = for years. I just couldn't remember the title! Dev http://greendragon.fanspace.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Li'nia Stormdancer=20 To: ninjabluewolf-+AT+-yahoo.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Heyla List-Sibs! --- Layla Voll wrote: =20 > Also, speaking of things that Mercedes Lackey has > actually been involved with, she wrote a couple of >stories for volumes 3 and 4 of the Elfquest=20 > "Blood of Ten Chiefs" anthologies, edited by Richard > Pini, and the rest of stories in those anthologies >are also entertaining (volume 1 includes stories by >Lynn Abbey, Robert Aspirin, Diana L. Paxson, and >Janny Wurts). >=20 > And Elfquest itself is spectacular: a long-running > comics series, now collected into graphic novels >called "Elfquest Reader's Collections." =20 > Volumes 1 through 4 make up the original quest and > (IMHO) the best story. Yes!! I happen to be a great fan of the "ElfQuest" books and graphic novels. I have almost all of them now... Not too dark, not too cheerful, full of elves.=20 I've read what Misty has done for the series, and I happen to like it a lot. Also, one author I haven't mentioned is Emma Bull.=20 Her book, "War For The Oaks", is a rather humorous fantasy book involving the Seleigh and UnSeleigh Courts and rock-n-roll. However, the nice difference is that there are other types besides elves as the focus. I must also recommend L.E. Modesitt. Can't remember if someone else has or not. I'm a huge fan of the "Darksong" Trilogy, and I'm fond of the other "Recluse" books as well. Another author is J.V. Jones. Can't remember the name of the trilogy, but the books are "The Baker's Boy", "A Man Betrayed", and "Master and Fool". Another book by her, which is a very good stand-alone, is called "The Barbed Coil".=20 Takes art to a whole new realm. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia Stormdancer -+AT+---->--->--->--- Peon to the Powers That Be,=20 Goddess of All Things Possessed, & Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion and Dissention __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C0AD2D.5DD2BF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
War for the Oaks wouldn't happen to = have a Poohka=20 in it, would it? 'Cause if it does, it may be a book I've been trying to = find to=20 re-read for years. I just couldn't remember the title!
 
Dev
http://greendragon.fanspace.com<= /A>
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Li'nia Stormdancer
To: ninjabluewolf-+AT+-yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 = 5:00=20 PM
Subject: Re: When in lack of=20 Misty...

Heyla List-Sibs!

--- Layla Voll <layla_voll-+AT+-hotmail.com>=20 wrote:
 
> Also, speaking of things that Mercedes Lackey = has
> actually been involved with, she wrote a couple = of
>stories=20 for volumes 3 and 4 of the Elfquest
> "Blood of Ten Chiefs"=20 anthologies, edited by Richard
> Pini, and the rest of stories = in those=20 anthologies
>are also entertaining (volume 1 includes stories=20 by
>Lynn Abbey, Robert Aspirin, Diana L. Paxson, = and
>Janny=20 Wurts).
>
> And Elfquest itself is spectacular: a=20 long-running
> comics series, now collected into graphic=20 novels
>called "Elfquest Reader's Collections." 
> = Volumes 1=20 through 4 make up the original quest and
> (IMHO) the best=20 story.

Yes!! I happen to be a great fan of the = "ElfQuest"
books and=20 graphic novels.  I have almost all of them
now... Not too = dark, not=20 too cheerful, full of elves.
I've read what Misty has done for the = series,=20 and I
happen to like it a lot.

Also, one author I haven't = mentioned=20 is Emma Bull.
Her book, "War For The Oaks", is a rather=20 humorous
fantasy book involving the Seleigh and UnSeleigh
Courts = and=20 rock-n-roll.  However, the nice difference
is that there are = other=20 types besides elves as the
focus.

I must also recommend L.E. = Modesitt.  Can't remember
if someone else has or not.  = I'm a huge=20 fan of the
"Darksong" Trilogy, and I'm fond of the = other
"Recluse" books=20 as well.  Another author is J.V.
Jones.  Can't remember = the name=20 of the trilogy, but
the books are "The Baker's Boy", "A Man = Betrayed",=20 and
"Master and Fool".  Another book by her, which is = a
very good=20 stand-alone, is called "The Barbed Coil".
Takes art to a whole new = realm.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
---<---<---<----+AT+- Li'nia = Stormdancer=20 = -+AT+---->--->--->---
       &n= bsp;    =20 Peon to the Powers That Be,=20
          Goddess of = All=20 Things Possessed, &
 Caretaker of the Arena of Discussion = and=20 = Dissention

__________________________________________________
D= o You=20 Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great = prices.
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