MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2542 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by GryphRaptor 2) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by "Layla Voll" 3) War For The Oaks by "Abigail Laughlin" 4) Tolkien by Abby Normal 5) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by Amy Kerry 6) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by Kasebones-+AT+-cs.com 7) Re: so much room to play with re:other books by Hank Tiffany 8) Books we'd like to see.. by "Lorna Appleby" 9) Re: other books by Natetoact-+AT+-aol.com 10) Re: When in lack of Misty... by Natetoact-+AT+-aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: GryphRaptor To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: <20010315184816.22696.qmail-+AT+-web3906.mail.yahoo.com> hmmm...that would be interesting...especially considering how much mind-magics are used in Valdimar versus the views in the Highlei empire...course i suppose that due to the long relationship between the Highlei and White Gryphon, that prehaps those views have changed, but you never know... Also, i'd definatly like to know how some of the other places managed during the mage storms, the Highlei empire and White Gryphon in particular. GryphRaptor PS: sorry for any mispellings in this post :) --- J80Kath-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > This is something that I have always been curious > about as well. Finding out what is going on in the > Empire would be fun. I would even like to go back > to White Griffin and see how things are going there. > There is so much room for more stories in Misty's > world, I hope she continues to at least write a few > more. > > Does anyone know what the next velgarth book is > going to be about...the one after "Brightly > Burning." > I thought someone mentioned something about Skifs > early years, but I didn't see how you could go much > earlier than when he met talia. > > Jennie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Layla _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:03:42 -0000 From: "Abigail Laughlin" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: War For The Oaks Message-ID: <> War For The Oaks does indeed have a phouka (that's how it's spelled in the book) as one of its major characters--my particular favorite, though there are a number of particularly cool ones. Another excellent book, both for its unique take on the world of the magical and for many spiffykeen references to good music. Emma Bull has put out a number of other books as well, though I've not read any of them yet. Zha'hai'allav'a, Raven Darkblade and Mor the raven, Holy Hand of the Goddess of Elves, Member of the Mistic Circle, Webmaster of the Circle of Stone, Knight and Founding Member of the Order of Unsung Heroes; http://www.angelfire.com/ky/Ashke/ - The Labyrinth _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:40:41 -0800 (PST) From: Abby Normal To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Tolkien Message-ID: <20010315204041.12900.qmail-+AT+-web4702.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla, In point of fact, not only were the books published in Tolkien's lifetime, but he specifically gave his permission only to one paperback publisher, and included a note on the back of the edition asking that anyone with respect for living authors buy that copy and no other. (I can't recall the publisher offhand; they're my mother's books. Mine are hardcover.) And I second whoever (sorry) said no knocking Tolkien. The_Hobbit and LotR are rich and complex and masterful in the art of storytelling. I've always loved them and never found them in the least boring. (I will also be haunting movie theatres in December. I am very excited, despite wariness over parts they are cutting and changing.) ObMisty: I think it would be interesting to see what the city of White Gryphon is like now that most of the k'Leshya have come east. Also, perhaps more books simply set in Valdemar, around Haven, like Arrows and LHM, instead of all the international happenings. On a note completely unrelated to anything, I wish early English kings did not have names that were all so similar to each other. Ethelwulf, Ethelred, Ethelbald, Ethelbert, Ethelfled, Aethelstan ect are rather a jumble in my head, and must be sorted out before my exam tonight (thank god Alfred has an easily distinguishable name). I am horribly grateful to Cnut, simply for beginning the series of kings I can tell apart. Chocolate hazelnut sheep to all listsibs with midterms. Ambermoon Singer of Fire Royal Defender of the Brat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:12:57 -0800 (PST) From: Amy Kerry To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: <20010315231257.20381.qmail-+AT+-web12702.mail.yahoo.com> Heyla listsibs, --- Layla Voll wrote: > There's his whole life (ten or twelve years) as a > thief on the streets > before he was Chosen. Dickens managed to write a > few thousand pages about a > fledgling orphaned would-be thief :) And there does > seem to be a fairly > involved story about Skif's early life. (I think > someone -- Elcarth? -- > mentions that thievery was his family business, that > his uncle was hanged > and his mother was murdered by competitors, for > instance.) I really want to know about Skif's early life and Alberich's too, but Misty has had a change of plan and these books are NOT the next ones being published. Misty's secretary posted awhile back that the next books she's doing is a full blown series about life in the Collegium from start to finish, i guess sort of an indepth look at what training for being a Herald really is, more than we saw in the Arrows books with Talia. I have a few more authors to add to the recommendations list :) Judith Tarr, she has done several different series of historical fantasy her best as far as I'm concerned is the Hound and the Falcon trilogy about an elf who denies his heritage and is a monk and friend of Richard Lionheart during the Crusades. She has also done some wonderful books dealing with Egypt, The Lord of Two Lands about Alexander the Great and The Throne of Isis about Cleopatra are two of them. Judith Merkle Riley is also fantastic, she's another historical fantasy author who deals mostly with french time periods. Two of her best books are the Oracle Glass about a deviner who lives during the time of the Sun King Louis XIV and The Master of All Desires which is set a bit earlier. All her books have strong female characters and are fun and intriguing reads. Jane Routely does pure fantasy, her main character Dion is a female mage, a thing almost unheard of in her home country, she is tricked and seduced by a demon and all sorts of troubles follow. The three books she has written are Mage Heart, Fire Angels and Aramaya, the first book is the best of the series though. Fudge brownie sheep to everyone, Amy Ferret Friend Lady of All Things Missing, Especially Socks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:47:18 EST From: Kasebones-+AT+-cs.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: <7b.119e24aa.27e2bc96-+AT+-cs.com> I really want to know about Skif's early life and Alberich's too, but Misty has had a change of plan and these books are NOT the next ones being published. Misty's secretary posted awhile back that the next books she's doing is a full blown series about life in the Collegium from start to finish, i guess sort of an indepth look at what training for being a Herald really is, more than we saw in the Arrows books with Talia. About the other velgarth books, I read somewhere that Misty would be writing a story about skif's early years (as someone mentioned) and also about Albreich's life in Karse and as a soldier. Correct me if I'm wrong, I may be , but those are two books I'm looking forward to reading. After reading this, never mind. What does she mean "full blown in the collegium?" new characters, or going back and focusing on the minor characters of the talia books? I would , for one, like some new personalities in there to read about. Not that the old ones aren't great already! This may be a little out of it, but where exactly did the name "Velgarth" come from. I don't remember seeing it mentioned in any of the books, but maybe i'm just being blind. Clarify things for me, would you? -KC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Hank Tiffany To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: so much room to play with re:other books Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 Kasebones-+AT+-cs.com wrote: > > This may be a little out of it, but where exactly did the name "Velgarth" > come from. I don't remember seeing it mentioned in any of the books, but > maybe i'm just being blind. Clarify things for me, would you? The Prologue in the 2nd & 3rd Arrows books. Hank Tiffany, fud up rypod ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:19:34 -0800 From: "Lorna Appleby" To: Subject: Books we'd like to see.. Message-ID: <010301c0adbf$8b0715b0$f240a8c0-+AT+-backtalk.org> You know, with the amount of various things we all think would make good books, we might just have to chain Misty to her word processor. (She could have bathroom breaks.. if she agrees to eat at keyboard. ^_^ ) What I'd like to see is maybe one of the other continents on the world.. After all, THEY'D have no clue that the mage storms were coming.. (Or would they?! ^_^ ) .. Maybe some of the adepts who fleed from Ma'ar set up shop there Oh-so-many years ago and now their descendents rule supreme.. I just think it could be really nifty to see the flip-side of the world. ^_^ -Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:13:09 EST From: Natetoact-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: other books Message-ID: <98.11ec187e.27e31705-+AT+-aol.com> --part1_98.11ec187e.27e31705_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hvae to say that I've only gotten through the Hobbit, and that was in 7th grade... I could see merit in it, but it was also hard for an ADD child to sit through, even a gifted reading ADD child. :O) on that note, Ender's Game and all the other books in that series (by Orson Scott Card) are WONDERFUL sci-fi stories, with the most honest characters I've ever read, considering Ender's Game is about a boy that starts the book about 5 yrs old... I've talked to people (from the average person to the gifted) who identify so strongly with Ender that they find themselves hating his enemies right along with him, as did I, to be honest. The rest of the books are good... Speaker for the Dead, I got through, but it's much slower, and more focused, as is Xenocide, although the pacing in that one is much better. And, even if you don't particularly like those two, read them so you can understand Children of the Mind, the last book that focuses on Ender's Life. There is a parallel sequel, Ender's Shadow, that is about one of the students that Ender works with, and also Shadow of the Hegemon, about another of the students. They are all beautiful works, and should be read. That being said, happy, heart-shaped sheep to everyone! Nathyn "Oh, well. She's dead. Let's move on, shall we?"- Willy Wonka --part1_98.11ec187e.27e31705_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hvae to say that I've only gotten through the Hobbit, and that was in 7th
grade... I could see merit in it, but it was also hard for an ADD child to
sit through, even a gifted reading ADD child. :O) on that note, Ender's Game
and all the other books in that series (by Orson Scott Card) are WONDERFUL
sci-fi stories, with the most honest characters I've ever read, considering
Ender's Game is about a boy that starts the book about 5 yrs old... I've
talked to people (from the average person to the gifted) who identify so
strongly with Ender that they find themselves hating his enemies right along
with him, as did I, to be honest. The rest of the books are good... Speaker
for the Dead, I got through, but it's much slower, and more focused, as is
Xenocide, although the pacing in that one is much better. And, even if you
don't particularly like those two, read them so you can understand Children
of the Mind, the last book that focuses on Ender's Life. There is a parallel
sequel, Ender's Shadow, that is about one of the students that Ender works
with, and also Shadow of the Hegemon, about another of the students. They are
all beautiful works,
and should be read.

That being said, happy, heart-shaped sheep to everyone!
Nathyn
"Oh, well. She's dead. Let's move on, shall we?"- Willy Wonka --part1_98.11ec187e.27e31705_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:16:08 EST From: Natetoact-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: When in lack of Misty... Message-ID: --part1_d3.11e0ec7b.27e317b8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's irnoic that Basil Broketail is mentioned... I bought that for an ex-gf for x-mas, but I never gave it to her, so I started it the other day... interesting so far! Girlfrieny-sheep to all the boys... and maybe some of the girls. Nathyn "Oh, well. She's dead. Let's move on, shall we?"- Willy Wonka --part1_d3.11e0ec7b.27e317b8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's irnoic that Basil Broketail is mentioned... I bought that for an ex-gf
for x-mas, but I never gave it to her, so I started it the other day...
interesting so far!

            Girlfrieny-sheep to all the boys... and maybe some of the girls.
            Nathyn

"Oh, well. She's dead. Let's move on, shall we?"- Willy Wonka --part1_d3.11e0ec7b.27e317b8_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2542 **********************************