MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2639 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: tylendel reference/Fire Rose by elmazad manager 2) Re: Cat's in Misty, Companions advice by =?iso-8859-1?q?Jasmin=20Haviland?= 3) Re: Cat's in Misty, Companions advice by "Roxanne Nolan" 4) Re: tylendel reference/Fire Rose by "Molly McAllister" 5) Gwena's return by "Rebecca McAllister" 6) Re: Gwena's return by "Roxanne Nolan" 7) Re: Gwena's return by "Caitlin McAllister" 8) Re: Gwena's return by Sonata627-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: Gwena's return by Silvershadow 10) Re: Gwena's return by "Charlotte DiStefano" 11) Re: Gwena's return by "Rebecca McAllister" 12) Re: Gwena's return by "Roxanne Nolan" 13) Re: Gwena's return by "Christi (Malmberg) Koenig" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:11:33 +0300 From: elmazad manager To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: tylendel reference/Fire Rose Message-ID: <3B4EF384.1588AC92-+AT+-elmazad.com> Can you help me to unsubscribe? Sheridan Hoy wrote: > Heyla listsibs, > > Sarah Scrivano wrote: > > Actually, *Lancir*, the Queen's Own should have been > paying more attention -- Talia was always being > "called" to people in need, and I'm surprised that > Lancir wasn't called to Tylendal. > > Good point, although I don't think that Lancir had > Empathy, and he certainly didn't have a strong > Mindspeaking Gift - I believe Lancir stayed behind > when the Tylendel's Gate was taken down, and they > couldn't contact him to help with Vanyel because they > didn't know where he was. Actually, that brings a > question up - wouldn't that other Companions have know > where Lancir was because they should have known were > Taver (?spelling) was? I can't remember the exact text > - my LHM books are in NZ and the £*E&$*& library > system over here only has Magic's Price - actually, > they only have one of the Arrows trilogy, 2 of the > Storms trilogy, one Serrated Edge novel, and nothing > else! > > BTW, I haven't read either The Fire Rose or Serpent's > Shadow - what are they about? How different are they > from other Misty books? > > Wind to thy Wings, > > tamlin > > PS BTW, is Misty's secretary still on the list? > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger > - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:33:55 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jasmin=20Haviland?= To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Cat's in Misty, Companions advice Message-ID: <20010713133355.70220.qmail-+AT+-web11606.mail.yahoo.com> --- Roxanne Nolan wrote: > LOL, I have got an exception to that one....remember how Gwena was trying to > push Elspeth onto her predestined path? > Gwena is the execption to many rules. Since I'm in the middle of the winds books right now, having to listen to what Elspeth had to put up with, I'm firmly in the "Elspeth is NOT a brat and dammed if she doesn't have more self control than I would have" camp. I'm still surprised she's not dead. Sigh... but this isn't the time for a Gwena rant... Happy work sheep to everyone!! Jessie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free -+AT+-yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free -+AT+-yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:09:25 -0700 From: "Roxanne Nolan" To: Subject: Re: Cat's in Misty, Companions advice Message-ID: <002b01c10bad$d2627480$a33427d0-+AT+-unicorn> I agree with you, Gwena got darned annoying and I totally agree that she is lucky that Elspeth learned such self control. I think Elspeth developed into a very mature and responsible adult. Roxanne > Gwena is the execption to many rules. Since I'm in the middle of the winds books right now, having > to listen to what Elspeth had to put up with, I'm firmly in the "Elspeth is NOT a brat and dammed > if she doesn't have more self control than I would have" camp. I'm still surprised she's not dead. > Sigh... but this isn't the time for a Gwena rant... > Happy work sheep to everyone!! > Jessie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:12:14 -0000 From: "Molly McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: tylendel reference/Fire Rose Message-ID: To unsubscribe, write to the same address that you wrote to to subscribe: list-proc-+AT+-herald.co.uk In the message put Unsubscribe mercedes-lackey That should do it. Good luck Starshadow* Royal Defender of the Brat She'enedra to Lightsong _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:32:57 From: "Rebecca McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Gwena's return Message-ID: Heyla listsibs! I know this has probably been covered before, but I am a bonehead and can't remeber. If Elspeth were to die, would gwena die too, like a normal companion or would she stay alive and choose again like Rolan? Is that aspect true to all groveborn companions or just the MOC? It seems to me that it would make sense if it was only the MOC becuase he is the only one who needs years of experience. I don't know though, what do you think? Also, try to keep the one-liners to a minimum. Please read all the posts before you reply, and then braid. It makes life so much easier for us all. :) Thank you. Chocolate covered, raspeberry flavored, gummy sheep to all, Becca -Lady of all titleless entities (see, now I have a title) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:24:14 -0700 From: "Roxanne Nolan" To: Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: <025b01c10bd1$cd07dec0$a33427d0-+AT+-unicorn> You know, I think I remember reading in AoQ that all grove born companions lived. I have always wondered what that would mean for Gwena. I wonder if she would go on and chose another of the royal line that has a strong Adept gift or maybe someone with a strong Adept gift not in the royal house? Or would she just go away as well? Or would she just die? Which brings me to another question...what happens to companions that don't die when their Chosen does? Roxanne ----- Original Message ----- > I know this has probably been covered before, but I am a bonehead and can't > remeber. If Elspeth were to die, would gwena die too, like a normal > companion or would she stay alive and choose again like Rolan? Is that > aspect true to all groveborn companions or just the MOC? It seems to me > that it would make sense if it was only the MOC becuase he is the only one > who needs years of experience. I don't know though, what do you think? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:01:02 From: "Caitlin McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: I am venturing out of lurkdon for the first time in a long time so if I screw something up just smile and nod and remeber to keep fire away from sheep for they are flammable and you wouldn't want that on you conscience now would you...Anyways. I think that I remeber reading in the AotQ that if a herald is killed but the companion is not, usually the companion will pine I seem to remeber something about going into a corner of the field and just dying and visa versa or in the case of Gala/Tylendal... They become suicidal if they loose they're companion. Even though he was repudated I think the effect was the same. Well Fuzzy pink cottan candy sheep to all. Caitlin no title yet must think of one, hmm how about I get back to you >From: "Roxanne Nolan" >Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk >what happens to companions that don't die when their >Chosen does? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:05:40 EDT From: Sonata627-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: <77.1772e56b.2880e6d4-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 7/13/01 1:08:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nolan-+AT+-gemsi.com writes: << Which brings me to another question...what happens to companions that don't die when their Chosen does? >> Also, what happens when the reverse occurs? When a Companion is killed, does the Herald die or pine away as well? And here is something that has always bugged me that I could never figure out. In AOQ, everyone is surprise when Rolan chooses someone as young as Talia, and they keep saying they expected Rolan to choose another Herald, or at least someone who was already chosen. So, what happens to that person's companion? The one that chose them? Everyone always says that the reason lifebonds are so rare or that Heralds seldom form permanent couples is that there just isn't room beacuse their hearts are given first to thier Companions and second to their duty, so is it really that likely there would be room for a Herald to be bonded to two Companions? And what happend if one of them dies? I could babble on like this for days, really, but I'll stop now. Water buckets and fire extinguishers to take care of all those highly flammable sheep! Amy Founder of the Stand-Out-In-A-Rainstorm-Just-Because-Club ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvershadow To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: <20010714012542.19404.qmail-+AT+-web4505.mail.yahoo.com> Personally I'VE been wondering what would happen if someone who was Chosen decided they didn't WANT to be a Herald. From what i've read I get the impression that if someone was Chosen they don't HAVE to become a Herald... Just curious what would happen if that did happen. ===== Zhai'hellava ~Silvershadow~ Chocobo of Legend Wielder of the Sacred SPOON __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 01:46:47 From: "Charlotte DiStefano" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: Heyla all, About the Gwena question, I believe it says in AotQ that the MOC lives to choose again, not just an grove born companion. However, at that time, the MOC is the only grove born companion, and they expect it to stay that way, so they might not know know what would happen to a grove born companion who wasn't the MOC. IMNSHO, I think that Gwena would die if Elspeth did. I think that the only reason the MOC lives to choose again is becuase the MOC needs a lot of experience. Anyway, that's my two cents. ;) Caitlin!! Good to see you posting again. ;) You can be my she'enedra too, then you'll have a sig. *grins* Starshadow, you don't mind, do you? Well, I suppose we could be a bit she'enedran three-some..kinky. ;) ~Lightsong Royal Defender of the Brat Dame of OoAM She'enedra to Starshadow ~ ~ Do not live merely in harmony, and some say, but in melody. ~ ~ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 02:11:11 From: "Rebecca McAllister" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: >Personally I'VE been wondering what would happen if >someone who was Chosen decided they didn't WANT to be >a Herald. From what i've read I get the impression >that if someone was Chosen they don't HAVE to become a >Herald... Just curious what would happen if that did >happen. > ~Silvershadow~ I don't think a companion wouldn't choose some who wouldn't want to be a herald. Tylendel told Vanyel that there was something inside him that just had to be a herald. That he had to help. I imagine that that is what attracts the companion in the first place. They probably have that option just becuase it would be kind of mean to not give the person a choice,even if it isn't needed. Becca -Lady of all titleless entities (see, now I have a title) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:24:41 -0700 From: "Roxanne Nolan" To: Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: <002e01c10c14$bcdc06a0$ef3427d0-+AT+-unicorn> In the short story book Fire and Ice (if that is the correct title, not sure about the title) where Misty writes a bunch of short stories about Valdemar, there is a story of an old woman that is trying to save her family's farm in some really harsh times. The rest of the family wants to give up and move to Haven. Well, a companion comes for the old woman and she basically tells it she can't be chosen, doesn't want to be chosen, she has too much work to do. If I remember correctly the Companion agrees to wait for her even if it is going to be a long wait. Roxanne ----- Original Message ----- > Personally I'VE been wondering what would happen if > someone who was Chosen decided they didn't WANT to be > a Herald. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:41:33 -0500 From: "Christi (Malmberg) Koenig" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gwena's return Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20010713223019.01ff73a0-+AT+-aranya.com-+AT+-mail2.nsiweb.com> At 01:53 AM 7/14/01 +0100, you wrote: >And here is something that has always >bugged me that I could never figure out. In AOQ, everyone is surprise when >Rolan chooses someone as young as Talia, and they keep saying they expected >Rolan to choose another Herald, or at least someone who was already chosen. >So, what happens to that person's companion? The one that chose them? This was mentioned in the LHM books (Promise) when Vanyel & Shavri & Yfandes are talking about Jisa being the presumptive next Monarch's Own; something to the effect of Jisa being Chosen soon if she "needs the training" but it being an "unbonded Choosing" until such time as her mother dies and Taver will bond with her then. Supposedly she's the Presumptive Kings Own because her Gifts are MindHealing, Mindspeech, and Empathy, along with Mage-potential. (Just looked all this up, it's chapter 2 of Promise, page 336 in the book club 3in1 edition). There's also a line about Empathy "not being a normal Heraldic Gift" etc. I guess Van's Forgetfulness Spell about magic did a pretty good job. Yfandes also thought Jisa would be chosen around age 10, so I guess they forgot that too by the time Talia came around. So I guess it's like a stand-in Companion; they'd be close, but not totally bonded. I wish there were more books about Vanyel's era. Christi Koenig sig-less, title-less, and tossing two cents's around till I'm penny-less ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 2639 **********************************