MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 7 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) re:Tayladras bondbeasts by marina-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Marina S Y Chong) 2) Roleplaying games (Was Re: Access to the archives by WWW & FTP by "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" 3) Re: moan by "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" 4) Re: New subscriber by "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" 5) Kyree (Was Re: virtual tea and crumpets by "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" 6) re: McKinley, Dean, and Goddesses by kmbrielmaier-+AT+-STTHOMAS.EDU 7) Re: Kyree by Jean Morrill 8) Re: Kyree (Was Re: virtual tea and crumpets by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: virtual tea and crumpets by Rhonda Rodriguez 10) Question for someone.... by Kimber Brumbaugh 11) RE: Access to the archives by WWW & FTP by "Tarja Rainio" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:29:47 +0800 From: marina-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Marina S Y Chong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re:Tayladras bondbeasts Message-ID: <199505071229.UAA02125-+AT+-merlion.singnet.com.sg> >You are making me extremely hungry... :^P ' ' > >Tarma wasn't Tayladras but didn't Warrl bond to her? I don't know if it's >the same maybe more like a lifebond because they are equals. But then again >Companions are equal (if not superior) to Heralds, but the bond seems to be >the same as the Tayladras and their bondbirds. My $0.02. > [snip] Seems to me that kyree are people too, like gryphons, dyheli and hertasi. Companions, well we know what they are.... Bondbirds are genetically (magically?) engineered birds that are more intelligent, but still birds, nonetheless. As for Tarma and Warrl, their relationship could be a lifebond, or perhaps something more in the nature of a deep friendship like Amberdrake and Skandranon's -- not like the Tayledras/bondbird one. Comments? -- #=======================#=======================================# # Marina S Y Chong # "Think of it as evolution in action." # # marina-+AT+-singnet.com.sg # -- Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle # # # OATH OF FEALTY # #=======================#=======================================# ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Roleplaying games (Was Re: Access to the archives by WWW & FTP Message-ID: I don't play any roleplaying games (because I don't know anyone else around here to play with --good grief, doesn't that sound like a whiny six yr old? 8^) ) but I do collect the Middle-earth Role Playing modules (MERP) put out by I.C.E. ...if they would quit changing their minds on how they want to do this, I'd be grateful! I collect 'em for the maps, herblore, characters....I wish Tolkien had written a lot more (as if you couldn't tell!), but he didn't and he died, and so I am reduced to writing my own stories of Middle-earth. BTW, if any of you are fans from your childhoods of *Mister Roger's Neighborhood*, I am very sad to tell you that Don Brockett, the Pittsburgh actor who played Chef Brockett for 31 yrs., died suddenly of a heart attack this past Tuesday. My husband John and I have lived nextdoor to him and his wife Leslie for the past 2 yrs. You might also remember him as the Friendly Psychopath in *Silence of the Lambs* and the Happy Hood in *Houseguests*. He was in just about every movie filmed in Pgh., beginning with *Flashdance*. His production company put on all kinds of things, from industrial films to commercials to the entertainment on the riverboat fleet every summer to his *Forbidden Pittsburgh* revues, hilarious satirical sendups of just about every local politician and local issues. For example, a year ago last fall, the citizens of Fox Chapel, one of the ritzier areas, were unhappy because a bunch of deer were munching on their carefully manicured landscaping. Their solution was to hire bounty archers to sit in trees, waiting for the marauding deer (really, I am not making this up!). And that led inevitably to Don's rendition of "Ruduolph, avoid Fox Chapel...." His humor was sharp but managed not to be mean. He was also a painter, and a very kind and generous man. One reason I mention him here is because I always pictured the Herald/bard who was so kind to Talia and gave her his My Lady as looking like Don--only with a less raspy voice. Like Jadrek, Don suffered greatly from degenerative joint disease (and very few Pittsburghers knew it) yet was not embittered by it. He had just had knee implant surgery last winter, and for the first time since he was a young boy, could walk without pain or need crutches or a cane. His last standing ovation was at his funeral on Friday. --Barra Jacob-McDowell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: moan Message-ID: Liz, I think you want what I do on my computer: a DWIM key, to Do What I Mean. --Barra ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:30:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: New subscriber Message-ID: I'll bring the scones, fern cake, and gridle cakes.... --Barra, who is gaining weight just *reading* this. "Why do I bother eating this stuff? I should just rub it on my hips--that's where it's going." --Rhoda Morgenstern. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:35:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Kyree (Was Re: virtual tea and crumpets Message-ID: <0jfDPMW00WBOI1CMIm-+AT+-andrew.cmu.edu> Matt, You said, "...I don't remember ever there being mention of a kyree outside of Tarma and Wharl [sic] ?" What about Rris, the kyree historian/gryphlet-sitter in the *Winds* trilogy and *Storm Warning*? He's always quoting "famous-cousin-Warrl"...who Kethry summoned in an attempt to bind a familiar, but who said that since she had Need, Tarma needed him more. --Barra Jacob-McDowell Everything will perish save love and music.--Scots Gaelic proverb Harpers have pluck--but don't get strung out.--Barra the Bard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 May 1995 11:43:28 -0600 (CST) From: kmbrielmaier-+AT+-STTHOMAS.EDU To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: McKinley, Dean, and Goddesses Message-ID: On Sun, 7 May 1995, Vivian Choh wrote: > For those who have read it: Did you feel that Disney ripped off her > McKinley's idea and re-work it like i did, or do you think it is just a > coincidence that the curtains and candles "had minds" of their own? > > I haven't read the McKinley version, but I have read one of the "original" versions of that story--one written before our cultures watered down and sweetened up fairy tales to make them suitable for children. I seem to remember that in the beast's castle were ghostly servants in the form of disembodied hands and supposedly inanimate objects. So I think maybe Disney went back to the old versions for some of their ideas. As a side note--I read those grisly stories when I was six or seven, and I loved them. How many people (off this list, I mean--you all seem well-versed in old literature) would know that Sleeping Beauty had two children and that they were almost *eaten* by her mother-in-law? Somehow I don't think Disney would get away with that storyline. Too bad really, because today's versions are wimpy compared to the ones I read. And then I suppose you could talk about violence on TV as compared to the violence in those stories I read......but that's another post, and shall be told another time. 's e do bheatha Angharad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:44:39 -0700 From: Jean Morrill To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kyree Message-ID: <199505071944.MAA08443-+AT+-virgo.hwr.arizona.edu> > You said, "...I don't remember ever there being mention of a kyree > outside of Tarma and Wharl [sic] ?" > > What about Rris, the kyree historian/gryphlet-sitter in the *Winds* > trilogy and *Storm Warning*? He's always quoting > "famous-cousin-Warrl"...who Kethry summoned in an attempt to bind a > familiar, but who said that since she had Need, Tarma needed him more. And Stef and Vanyel stayed with some kyree at the end of the LHM, after Vanyel was injured/raped. The kyree lived in the caverns with the hot pools and all the colored mage-light-globes, and Stef wrote a song for the kyree. And the kyree played some sort of drums... Jean in Tucson, where it is raining ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:32:38 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kyree (Was Re: virtual tea and crumpets Message-ID: <950507203236_110384850-+AT+-aol.com> Barra, You said: > What about Rris, the kyree historian/gryphlet-sitter in the *Winds* >trilogy and *Storm Warning*? He's always quoting >"famous-cousin-Warrl"...who Kethry summoned in an attempt to >bind a >familiar, but who said that since she had Need, Tarma needed him >more. > > --Barra Jacob-McDowell Yes Barra, you are correct in reminding me of Ris, but I was talking about a possible bond between Wharl and Tarma. I don't think that Ris was bonded to anybody except his famous cousin Wharl. Later people Matt J P.S. May I have a refil please of whatever we were drinking? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 21:29:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Rhonda Rodriguez To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: virtual tea and crumpets Message-ID: Might I join the tea party? I can contribute some Boston creme pie ... **************************************************** * Rhonda Rodriguez rhondar-+AT+-acs.bu.edu * * * * Rhonda's Law: * * -- In science, it doesn't matter if an idea * * is wrong, as long as it's not stupid. * * -- In business, it doesn't matter if an idea * * is stupid, as long as it's not wrong. * * -- In television, it doesn't matter if an idea * * is stupid or wrong, as long as it gets good * * Neilsen ratings and brings in ad dollars. * * * * Boston University Terrier Hockey * * 1995 NCAA Division 1 CHAMPIONS!! * * * **************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:38:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kimber Brumbaugh To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Question for someone.... Message-ID: <199505080238.WAA06611-+AT+-furrball.catt.ncsu.edu> Could someone send me/tell me how I can change the address I get this sent to? I sorta deleted that file in my zest to clear out my account for graduation.... and I need to change the mailing list to the account I'll be able to access over the summer. Thanks! Kimber Brumbaugh willow-+AT+-catt.ncsu.edu http://www.catt.ncsu.edu/users/willow/www/home.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:11:36 EET DST From: "Tarja Rainio" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: RE: Access to the archives by WWW & FTP Message-ID: <461BA365A81-+AT+-katk.helsinki.fi> Sat, 6 May 1995 Mel wrote: >The archive, and the rest of the stuff on there, isn't a secret as such; >but once I have a few more things on there I will announce it in various >Web-related places (which will hopefully bring more people to come and >see it.). Until; then I don't want it _too_ widely publicised, but I >figure you lot are safe enough :) As you asked, I have now informed the alt.books.m-lackey group about the list move, plus mailed to the person who keeps "The List of sf/fantasy/horror mailing lists". Tarja P.S. FINLAND WON GOLD IN THE ICE HOCKEY WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP COMPETITION!!!!!!!! Ummm, sorry about the shouting, but I'm still deliriously happy... Er, ummm, I just had to shout it out... Er, maybe I'll just pop open some virtual champagne bottles =) ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 7 *******************************