MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 47 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: WWW etc by TAMRA SPIELVOGEL 2) Re: WWW etc by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 3) Re: Why do YOU read Misty? by 'Little Witch' A Freitas 4) Re: Homosexuality in Books by 'Little Witch' A Freitas 5) Re: WWW etc by Ian MacDonald 6) Re: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. by 'Little Witch' A Freitas 7) Re: WWW etc by jc-+AT+-selune.demon.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) 8) Re: Why do I read Misty by Lwrd-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: Why do I read Misty by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 10) Re: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. by "Jennifer S. Broekman" 11) Re: Why do YOU read Misty? by Crysanthia-+AT+-aol.com 12) Re: Homosexuality in Books by Crysanthia-+AT+-aol.com 13) Re: Homosexuality in Books by Ilta Tuulia Adler 14) Re: Why do YOU read Misty? by 'Live Long and Prosper' 15) Re: Homosexuality in Books by Michael Richards 16) Why I read Misty's Books by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 17) other book list by nomib-+AT+-chem.psu.edu (Naomi) 18) Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly by Ian MacDonald 19) Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 20) Re: Karal being Chosen by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 21) Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly by "Sandy Haas" 22) YEAH YEAH by Ian MacDonald 23) Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly by jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) 24) Re: Homosexuality in Books by "Sandy Haas" 25) Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly by "Lisa" 26) Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. by J Hulley-Miller 27) Re: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. by "Jennifer S. Broekman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 16:22:28 EDT From: TAMRA SPIELVOGEL To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WWW etc Message-ID: <9506132026.AA01197-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Ian, were you reading my mind? I was looking for Jerry's review page yesterday (minus the adress of course) and went to your page and mel's looking for a link and was suprised there wasn't already one...oh well ask and yeah shall recieve (even if you did it before I could ask) THANX.--Tamra S. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:01:30 +0100 From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WWW etc Message-ID: <9506132101.AA02346-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> There is, or should be, a link from my server to the review pages; this is not too surprising since I am mirroring Jerry's copy :) They're available via http://www.herald.co.uk/local_info.html whch also links to Ian's pages, the read-on list and some information about the mailing list itself (the FAQ, that sort of thing) Cheers Mell. (oops, no delete key again) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 14:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: 'Little Witch' A Freitas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why do YOU read Misty? Message-ID: Because I love horses, and she has strong gay characters with decent personalities, as well as straight ones. ========== "You can either be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant. Dr. Chumley, I was smart for years. I recommend pleasant." -Elwood P. Dowd "Harvey" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 14:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: 'Little Witch' A Freitas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Homosexuality in Books Message-ID: I was immensely relieved to find Misty's books - they have strong gay characters and they act like real people. It is incredibly difficult to find gay people in books, though not as much so in sci-fi and fantasy. Since I'm gay, it was nice to find some characters that I could relate to, instead of the usual straight and ordinary ones. A friend of mine said she did not understand how anyone could read these books and still not understand that love is love, whatever color, whatever gender. You don't fall in love with a gender or a color or a religion. You fall in love with a PERSON. As a gay person, it is nice to see gay people treated as just that, people, for once, in books - and not treated as if there was some whole ISSUE going on. It's just a story, get on with it, you know? Misty does this very well, I think. -Alyxandria ========== "You can either be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant. Dr. Chumley, I was smart for years. I recommend pleasant." -Elwood P. Dowd "Harvey" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:13:26 +0100 From: Ian MacDonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WWW etc Message-ID: <24267.9506132113-+AT+-davaar.dcs.ed.ac.uk> > Ian, were you reading my mind? I was looking for Jerry's review page yesterday > (minus the adress of course) and went to your page and mel's looking for a link > and was suprised there wasn't already one...oh well ask and yeah shall recieve > (even if you did it before I could ask) THANX.--Tamra S. Would have been done earlier but had important exams to fail!!!!!!! will be all over 11 hours time _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ You never get where you _/ _/_/ _/_/ want to be only where you need to be _/ _/ _/_/ _/ email ism-+AT+-dcs.ed.ac.uk _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ AN _/ _/ ACDONALD, Edinburgh University, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 14:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: 'Little Witch' A Freitas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. Message-ID: I'll second the recommendation for Lammas Night by Katherine Kurtz. As a witch with a BA in history, I can say it's pretty much accurate. -Alyxandria ========== "You can either be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant. Dr. Chumley, I was smart for years. I recommend pleasant." -Elwood P. Dowd "Harvey" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:19:26 +0200 (BST) From: jc-+AT+-selune.demon.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WWW etc Message-ID: And just to round things off, the review pages have links to: The US review pages, The UK review pages, Ian's UK pages, The reading list, and the mailing list stuff - so you should be able to get to everything from just about any of them :-). -Jerry (at home) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:07:27 -0400 From: Lwrd-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why do I read Misty Message-ID: <950613200725_94306295-+AT+-aol.com> Joan Ferguson asks if anyone else has read K Kurtz's _Lammas Night_. I have, several times, and find it one of her best. (BTW, I would call it fantasy as well as "historical what/if"). She writes well, gets the tone, dialogue, details amazingly well, to my mind. Kurtz is weaving that story into the third volume of her "Adept" trilogy/quartet--the "Templar Treasure" one. You might enjoy it/those. The fourth one will continue the combining of the "Adept" characters with the "Lammas Night" ones, or at least a few--they're older, but it still works! Much more successful than her Derinyi stuff. But we're getting off the subject of Misty's work. I came to it by way of the "Arrows" trilogy, and was hooked. Then I galloped through the others. I'm not as enthusiastic about the "Winds" series, though I read them. I think I like "Oathbound", "Oathbreakers" and "BTSword" best. What's this _Elvenblood_ everyone's discussing? Sorry if that's a dumb question but I'm new to this list. Lucia Dugliss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:01:26 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why do I read Misty Message-ID: <950613210123_70212711-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 95-06-13 20:18:02 EDT, Lucia, wrote: >What's this _Elvenblood_ everyone's discussing? Sorry if that's a dumb >question but I'm new to this list. >Lucia Dugliss > > It is the sequel to _Elvenbane_. Both are written by Mercedes Lackey and Andre Norton. Happy reading and welcome to the list! Toodles Matt J ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Strength comes in developing yourself on your own two feet, in feeling the loneliness of it all, and in loving yourself enough to laugh your ass off at your mistakes. --Susan Tyrrell. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:07:13 -0400 From: "Jennifer S. Broekman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. Message-ID: <199506140207.WAA26821-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu> 'Little Witch' A Freitas wrote: >I'll second the recommendation for Lammas Night by Katherine Kurtz. As a >witch with a BA in history, I can say it's pretty much accurate. And if you like _Lammas Night_, check out the Adept books. They're not quite the same, but they're from the same world... -jenneke I *am* family. How could I not have family values? Only Boys Accepting Feminism Get Kissed Meaningfully -- Geoff Marcy The only unnatural sexual act is that which you cannot perform. -Alfred Kinsey broekman-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu | http://www-astro.phast.umass.edu/gs/jenn.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:05:46 -0400 From: Crysanthia-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: Crysanthia-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: Why do YOU read Misty? Message-ID: <950613220544_70262138-+AT+-aol.com> I read Misty for a couple of reasons. The first was because of the Heralds, and I always liked the Companions. The second was because she always added an element of suspense in her stories. I have not seen any other books that deal with a Guardian Spirit, not many have Tayledras' birds either. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:12:44 -0400 From: Crysanthia-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: Crysanthia-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: Homosexuality in Books Message-ID: <950613221244_70267365-+AT+-aol.com> In answer to your question on if anyone else has had strong feelings about reading books...yes. I also was very prejudice against gay people. I was raised in a heterosexual family, and I always know I will be straight. But, when I picked up Misty's books about Vanyel, something went straight to my soul. I don't know what it was, but I was so wapped up in the book espcially after 'Lendel died, that I read the whole trilogy in one night. At the end of the third book I cried when Vanyel sacrificed himself for Valdemar, but sighed a big relief when Stefen was finally able to join him, even if it was in the after-life. Misty's books changed me forever, I no longer think of gay people as being "unnatural," I think of it now as just another way of loving. Crysanthia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 06:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Ilta Tuulia Adler To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Homosexuality in Books Message-ID: Iris: I just had to delurk and say... Rather then sending a flame, I wanted to let you know that your message was one of the most touching things I've read in a long time on the net. Thanks Ilta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:36:22 GMT0BST From: 'Live Long and Prosper' To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why do YOU read Misty? Message-ID: <2D3216B5478-+AT+-lzn1.lass.nottingham.ac.uk> I first discovered Misty about four years ago when I saw the Arrow's Flight book in the local library. I think I read it in a single day and then looked for more but there weren't any to be had (I have since discovered that Misty's books are invariably out on loan and the only way to get hold of them is to order them!). Anyway, I regrettably forgot who wrote it but the book stayed with me and I kept looking in bookshops for that book as I wanted to read the rest of the trilogy, and eventually, last Autumn found the entire trilogy in Waterstones in Nottingham (Waterstones being the only bookshop that seems to bother importing such wonderful books). Since then I have bought the Arrows trilogy, Winds trilogy, Oathbound and Oathbreakers, By the Sword, Elvenbane, the first two Vanyel ones I can't get hold of the last one) and the Bardic Voices and Bardic Choices books - you could call me an addict!!! Why do I like them - for escape!!!!!! I have always liked fantasy/sci-fi books but find many hard to "get into" but not Misty - I am always hooked from page one and read far into the night. The characters are believable and you get attached to them. I also find the magic, especially the mind magic fascinating particularly as I have a feeling that only if we knew how we too would be capable of such things. The Bardic books (which never seem to be discussed here) also appeal to me as I play the flute and the idea of magic through music catches my imagination. Well, that is enough waffle for my first posting to this group - I only discovered it last week! Rosetta "If only I had something amusing, relevant or thought provoking to put as a footer" - any ideas please mail me! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:26:11 +0100 (BST) From: Michael Richards To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Homosexuality in Books Message-ID: > I may not express this well, and I hope that nobody will get > offended with this, but I wanted to bring up this point. The same goes for me here. I was very interested to read this email, and the later reply, because it had more or less the same effect on me. Before about, oh, 5 years ago say, I never thought about people being homosexual. I wasn't (and I'm not), I didn't know anyone who was, and I'd never read any books with characters who were... I just didn't think about it. Then a friend got me hooked on Lackey books, first with the Arrows books (whch are still my favourite) and then the Vanyel books. When I'd read those, I say down and thought for a while. I liked Vanyel, I respected him, and he was different. So I learned to accept that difference. Now, I still don't think about it, but for a different reason: I don't care. I don't know if I would have come to this conclusion without the Vanyel books. I hope I would; it could have cost me a good friendship. Certainly they changed my views, though. > Having read these, I recently picked up Gael Baudino's Gossamer > Axe, on the recommendation of this list. And because of this experience I wonder how many copies of that book were sold on the recommendation of this list? ;-) > with Misty, was able to utterly enjoy the book, regardless of > the gay characters, and realize once and for all, that love is love, > regardless what shape it takes. Even though I will always be straight, > I can now see homosexuality as just another form of love. ...and the world becomes a little more tolerant, a little brighter. > BTW, having said all this, I'll say one more thing that'll probably > get me flamed: On here? I doubt it. Politely disagreed with, probably. :) > I thought Gossamer Axe was one of the best books I've ever read. It's > even better than Misty's stuff Seriously, it's awesome. I'd rate GA "as good as" Misty's best. I think is Gael's best book to date - at least, it's the best I've read. It's different to a Misty book, but in it's own way just as good. -- Why do I read Lackey? It's semi-realistic escape. I like to read to get away from the boring, mundane world; while I'm reading, just for a short while I can picture myself somewhere else, where indivuals make a difference. On the other hand, the books have human heroes: characters who aren't perfect but on the other hand aren't anti heroes - I read Thomas Covenant once, but I can't reread it. There are bad guys, but they have personalities. And we see the effect of the grand confrontations on the ordinary folk: the heroes don't go round saying "isn't war exciting?". The books are reasonably consistant and interesting. I like the mind-magic and magic, too. I'd like to see more of the "ordinary" Heralds, with weak gifts, but I'm a perfectionist. :) My 2p allowance for at least a week, I think... Mike ps some of us use IMH(umble)O literally, not ironically. Really. :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 7:23:11 -0600 (MDT) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Why I read Misty's Books Message-ID: <950614072311.21c15104-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> Hmm. That's a tough question. I suppose part of it is, I'm an incurable romantic underneath this cynical exterior Misty's characters are realistic, to a point, they have both positive and negative qualities, not always being perfect. But each individual makes a difference. That's so tough to do in this huge world we have, that it's nice to see on person making a real difference, even if it is only in a book. Probably the same reasons I liked Moon's Paks books - one person makes the difference. Beyond that, while these persons are extraordinary, they are not so different from what's best in each of us. In other words, it's not hard to picture oneself reaching deep inside and finding a Herald. I admit, I'm not the sacrifice-self-for-others type, but I can see that under different circumstances, perhaps ... Anyway. That and the fact that the books read well, makes me come back to them over and over. This is mostly true for LHM, BTS, occassionally Arrows, Winds, and Storm Warning. Once in a great while the Oath books. Very seldom the Elves in L.A. stuff. And virtually never the bardic stuff. Eventually I hope to pick up the bardic stuff again, perhaps when the series is finished, and actually read the whole thing. My next big thing is to go back and read Elvenbane, to try and remember what the heck that was even about. I can't even remember it! Starwolf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:25:04 -0400 From: nomib-+AT+-chem.psu.edu (Naomi) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: other book list Message-ID: <199506141525.LAA18519-+AT+-portal.chem.psu.edu> I just looked in on the alternate reading list. It puts together all the posts, including the ones I lost. A big thanks to Tamra!!! Naomi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:45:10 +0100 From: Ian MacDonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly Message-ID: <10578.9506141545-+AT+-davaar.dcs.ed.ac.uk> > > So why couldn't Florian Choose Karal? I personally don't think that > he has, yet. And what is to prevent his just being a friend of Karal's? > A Companion doesn't leave Valdemar (unless (s)he is with his/her > Chosen), as far as I know, but...rules are changing. If Karal is going > to be as important as it seems he will be, he may need to have a > Companion around, even if only part of the time. And as someone > remarked, most Companions don't Choose until they are around 10. OK I just had a thought, Does anyone know of any other herald from Karse. Just thinking that Florain might be from Karse Just a thought _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ You never get where you _/ _/_/ _/_/ want to be only where you need to be _/ _/ _/_/ _/ email ism-+AT+-dcs.ed.ac.uk _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ AN _/ _/ ACDONALD, Edinburgh University, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:00:40 +0100 From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly Message-ID: <9506141600.AA28807-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> > OK I just had a thought, Does anyone know of any other herald from Karse. > Just thinking that Florain might be from Karse > > Alberich. M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 9:13:24 -0600 (MDT) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen Message-ID: <950614091324.21c10e3d-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> >> >> So why couldn't Florian Choose Karal? I personally don't think that >> he has, yet. And what is to prevent his just being a friend of Karal's? >> A Companion doesn't leave Valdemar (unless (s)he is with his/her >> Chosen), as far as I know, but...rules are changing. If Karal is going >> to be as important as it seems he will be, he may need to have a >> Companion around, even if only part of the time. And as someone >> remarked, most Companions don't Choose until they are around 10. From: Ian MacDonald >OK I just had a thought, Does anyone know of any other herald from Karse. >Just thinking that Florain might be from Karse >Just a thought Well, yeah. Alberich's from Karse, right? I assume however, that you are implying the idea of an ex-herald (i.e. dead herald) being reincarnated as Florian. Again, I've got to say that I don't think ALL companions are reincarnated herald. I just don't buy into that. Starwolf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:17:55 EDT From: "Sandy Haas" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly Message-ID: <70B3783F28-+AT+-rackham.umich.edu> One of the Weaponsmaster's was from Karse--Alberech(?) I think. That is why people were careful with that little phrase of "nothing good comes out of Karse..." There was a section of one of the Arrows books I think that he and Talia-? have a heart to heart and it is brought up then. Again, I think =} > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:02:22 +0100 > Reply-to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > From: Ian MacDonald > To: sandrah-+AT+-rackham.umich.edu > Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly > > > > So why couldn't Florian Choose Karal? I personally don't think that > > he has, yet. And what is to prevent his just being a friend of Karal's? > > A Companion doesn't leave Valdemar (unless (s)he is with his/her > > Chosen), as far as I know, but...rules are changing. If Karal is going > > to be as important as it seems he will be, he may need to have a > > Companion around, even if only part of the time. And as someone > > remarked, most Companions don't Choose until they are around 10. > > OK I just had a thought, Does anyone know of any other herald from Karse. > Just thinking that Florain might be from Karse > > Just a thought > > _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ You never get where you > _/ _/_/ _/_/ want to be only where you need to be > _/ _/ _/_/ _/ email ism-+AT+-dcs.ed.ac.uk > _/ _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/_/ AN _/ _/ ACDONALD, Edinburgh University, Scotland > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:28:15 +0100 From: Ian MacDonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: YEAH YEAH Message-ID: <10949.9506141628-+AT+-davaar.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Sorry to take up band width but I have done it 200 + messages all read sort of _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ You never get where you _/ _/_/ _/_/ want to be only where you need to be _/ _/ _/_/ _/ email ism-+AT+-dcs.ed.ac.uk _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ AN _/ _/ ACDONALD, Edinburgh University, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:32:53 +0000 (GMT) From: jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly Message-ID: <9506141633.AA11228-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk> > OK I just had a thought, Does anyone know of any other herald from Karse. > Just thinking that Florain might be from Karse > Yes - Alberich (the weapons master in Arrows) is from Karse - there's an Ok-but-not-exceptional story of how he got chosen in the _Horse Fantastic_ anthology. Personally, I wouldn't be too surprised if Florian and Karal stay together, evn if it's not a formal choosing - It'd be a pretty good way of demonstrating to the rest of the Karsites that companions aren't demons :-). Nobody in Karse is going to believe that anymore if they see Karal with a Firecat (=> Vkandis approves) _and_ a companion (UnStomped by the firecat, so they must be OK). -- _|_ / | Jerry Cullingford jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Work) \_|_ jc-+AT+-selune.demon.co.uk (Home) \__/ Hemel Hempstead, UK jerry-+AT+-shell.portal.com (alternate) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:33:43 EDT From: "Sandy Haas" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Homosexuality in Books Message-ID: <70F71163C4-+AT+-rackham.umich.edu> What a wonderful thing to hear from someone else. I always thought I had to go through this alone. My extra twist is that I am the third of four girls, and my two older sisters are lesbian. I figured this out while I was going through an evangelical Christian stage of my life. Well, I am over THAT because loving my sisters and comeing to all the conclusions I have had to over whether or not they CHOSE to be this way, I am no longer a part of the Church. (I could go on about this because it is still really painful, but I'll spare you=}) Anyway-right on!! And the books of Misty's just reinforce this. There are so many characters I can identify with, and situations that are so close to my skin, that I not only laugh out loud reading her books, I also have to put it down because I am crying to much to continue reading. They touch my heart and soul. Don't know another way to say it =} Which sort of brings me to another point. I read her open letter on one of the www pages the other day and I was outraged. Who/what/why is ANYBODY threatening Misty?? I guess I live a sheltered life, but I am dumbfounded that she has had to resort to such measures just to protect herself!! Who are these weirdo's?? Let me at them!! OK, I'm done now =} > Even though I will always be straight, > I can now see homosexuality as just another form of love. It's still > a little odd to me, but I've definitely gotten over this nasty little > attitude of prejudice. > > In other words, Misty changed my life! Or at least one of my attitudes. > > Did books have similar effects on other people? If so, what was the > attitude, and what book changed it? > > Iris > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:31:34 EST From: "Lisa" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karal being Chosen/Gwena/Talia pregnant/Hambly Message-ID: <2E3A801C89-+AT+-estuary.amrl.odu.edu> Ian, > OK I just had a thought, Does anyone know of any other herald from > Karse. > Just thinking that Florain might be from Karse The only other herald from Karse if Alberich as far as I know. Lisa ...it isn't dying honorably that counts... It's living honorably right to the end. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lisa M. Ramirez ~ ramirez-+AT+-estuary.amrl.odu.edu Applied Marine Research Laboratory ~ Lab: (804) 683-3498 1034 W. 45th St. ~ FAX: (804) 683-5293 Norfolk, VA 23529 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:45:40 +0000 From: J Hulley-Miller To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk (Jennifer S. Broekman) Subject: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. Message-ID: <199506141653.MAA26030-+AT+-cnj.digex.net> Greetings, Wednesday June 14 1995 03:13, "Jennifer S. Broekman" wrote: >JSB> And if you like _Lammas Night_, check out the Adept books. They're >JSB> not quite the same, but they're from the same world... Presumably the reverse applies :) Can you provide a publication year and the authors ? Tnx. jhm -- J Hulley-Miller ____ <1:107/330-+AT+-fidonet.org> \/\/ "Human nature is never so weak as in a bookstore" - Henry Ward Beecher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:54:18 -0400 From: "Jennifer S. Broekman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why I love Misty/Homosexuality/Another book recomm. Message-ID: <199506141754.NAA27735-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu> J Hulley-Miller wrote: >Wednesday June 14 1995 03:13, "Jennifer S. Broekman" > wrote: >>JSB> And if you like _Lammas Night_, check out the Adept books. They're >>JSB> not quite the same, but they're from the same world... >Presumably the reverse applies :) Can you provide a publication year and the >authors ? Tnx. I think I gave Tamra Hart the Adept books' vital stats for her Other Books WWW page... I don't own _Lammas Night_, so I can't give you those... -jenneke ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 47 ********************************