MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 70 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) LAMMYS by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 2) Re: Country Anniversaries by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 3) Re: valdemar special days by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 4) Re: Re:pernMUSH (was Dragon Info) by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 5) Re: ADMIN: a reminder by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 6) Re: country by terryg-+AT+-blade.com 7) Re: country by Gyrfalcon 8) Dragons, on and off cakes.... by "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" 9) Re: valdemar special days by h-wilfehrt-+AT+-nwu.edu (Helen M. Wilfehrt) 10) Re: country by "Jennifer S. Broekman" 11) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 68 by "Kenneth Boardman" 12) Re: valdemar special days by "Jennifer S. Broekman" 13) Re: country by Gyrfalcon 14) Banned Books 12 by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 15) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 68 by MaryKite-+AT+-aol.com 16) Re: Banned Books 6 by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 17) Re: country by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 18) Re: valdemar special days by URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com 19) Re: country by Gyrfalcon 20) Re: country by "Jennifer S. Broekman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:49:54 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: LAMMYS Message-ID: <950706234953_109574323-+AT+-aol.com> I know that a while ago there was a discussion about ML revieving a Lammy award and some people not knowing what it was. I found this description on aol in the gay and lesbian forum in the lambda rising area. The Lambda Literary Awards, affectionately known as the "Lammys," are awarded annually to recognize excellence in gay and lesbian writing and publishing in the U.S. during the preceding year. The Lammys are sponsored by the Lambda Book Report, a bimonthly review of lesbian and gay literature published in Washington, DC. Each year, beginning in the Fall, hundreds of thousands of Lammy nominating ballots are distributed through gay and lesbian newspapers and magazines, bookstores, and mailing lists of publishers, authors, book reviewers, and others in the book trade. After the deadline for submission of nominating ballots (mid-February), a panel of book reviewers, bookstore personnel, and industry leaders from around the United States culls the nominations down to five nominees in each category. A separate panel of judges (not less than five judges per category, times the number of categories) then reads and scores the five finalists in each category to determine the recipients of the Lambda Literary Award. The identity of judges is kept secret (even from other judges) until the night of the Lammys banquet and all scoring and balloting is done secretly. Two awards are an exception to this judging process: The Editor's Choice Award recipient is determined at the discretion of the editor of the Lambda Book Report and often goes to a book that might have otherwise been overlooked or one that did not fit well into any of the existing categories for that year; The Publisher's Service Award recipient is determined at the discretion of the publisher of the Lambda Book Report and often recognizes a unique contribution to the gay literary community, a special project deserving of recognition, or a person or press whose lifetime of service to gay and lesbian publishing and bookselling has been particularly outstanding. The names of Lammy recipients is kept secret until the Lammys are announced at the annual banquet. The Lambda Literary Awards reception and banquet is held each year on the Friday night preceeding the start of the American Booksellers Association convention (in late May or early June). For ticket information, contact the Lammys Line at 202-462-7924 (in recent years, the Lammys have traditionally been a sold-out affair, so reserve tickets early!). (lammys95) Matt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All this queer-bashing has simply got to stop. Rev Ray Broshears. Rev. Ray Broshears founds the Lavender Panthers in San Francisco, July 6, 1973. Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. --Bette Midler. Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to control mine? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:49:41 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Country Anniversaries Message-ID: <950706234940_109574183-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 95-07-06 17:58:31 EDT, you write: >Well, we THINK we have winters. :-) > >A cold winter day in Wollongong is about 5C (41F). > >Average is more like 10 - 15C (50 - 59F). > >I have lived in Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Boston so I know these are not >really cold but native Australians think they are. > >Perhaps there should be a law requiring all Australians to spend a winter in >Canada! :-) > >John That's not cold! Maybe chilly but not cold! Pittsburgh, what a great city. Haven't been to Buffalo or Boston, yet! PLan on Boston some time in my life along with a whole bunch of other places! Matt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All this queer-bashing has simply got to stop. -- Rev Ray Broshears. Rev. Ray Broshears founds the Lavender Panthers in San Francisco, July 6, 1973. Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. --Bette Midler. Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to control mine? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:50:54 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: valdemar special days Message-ID: <950706234935_109574104-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 95-07-06 06:57:49 EDT, you write: >Hmm. I can remember a reference to Sovvan, and wasn't something in Arrows of >the Queen about a midwinter feast? That would probably suggest they (or at >least some of them :-) ) celebrate at the quarter days, equinoxes and >solstices. I assume other religous holidays vary by religion, and I don't >recall seeing any founding-of-Valdemar anniversaries - presumably because >there wasn't a clear cut date. > >-- > _|_ > / | Jerry Cullingford jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Work) > \_|_ jc-+AT+-selune.demon.co.uk (Home) >\__/ Hemel Hempstead, UK jerry-+AT+-shell.portal.com (alternate) > > > I think that I remember reading, not sure which one, that for Talia there was something special for the summer solstice. Was it her birthingday? Or was there something else going on? Matt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All this queer-bashing has simply got to stop. -- Rev. Ray Broshears. Rev. Ray Broshears founds the Lavendar Panthers in San Francisco, July 6, 1973. Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. -- Bette Midler. Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to control mine? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:35:07 +0100 From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Re:pernMUSH (was Dragon Info) Message-ID: <9507070835.AA03752-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> > If anyone is intersted in a young character for NCPern (4-5 turns of age) > my character Diamond is looking for someone to play her daughter. Send > email if your intersted. > > Diamond > Diamond-+AT+-wizvax.net > > Ah, so _you're_ the one who named herself after my firelizard :) Mel (who also used to play on Furry, some years back, but has completely forgotten anything about her character) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:40:47 +0100 From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ADMIN: a reminder Message-ID: <9507070840.AA03779-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> > AOL does not permit a BLANK subject. Therefore, we cannot unsubscribe to the > list. > So I've been told; however, I suspect it will probably work as long as you don't use the subjects "subscribe", "unsubscribe" or maybe also "help". If not, send me private mail, and I will tweak the list by hand. (And start sending mail to the powers at AOL.) Mel. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 22:34:55 -0400 From: terryg-+AT+-blade.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: <9507070234.03MKY06-+AT+-blade.com> > I concur! and not in a southern (hence warmer) city like Toronto, > (although I'm sure that Toronto's coldest and average will beat > Wollongong's hands down (any Torontonians care to give the stats?) - > try > one of the colder cities, like Winnipeg (sp?) and Montreal! For the > Canucks -- Wasn't there a song recently about the weather in > Manitoba? > Portage and Main, 50 below? Well, this winter past was an odd one here. January(usually our coldest month) broke records for being the warmest on record for the last eighty years. For about 2 1/2 weeks we were walking around in shorts & t-shirts with temps hovering around 18-21 degrees celsius. Contrasted with the previous January which broke 100 year records for being the coldest.(Little snow though.) There were 563 burst water mains that year! The plains provinces are very cold during the winter. More due to wind chill factor.(like those in the afore mentioned song.) Vancouver in B.C on the other hand and any other areas west of the Rockies tend to be warm every winter. They get mostly rain and freezing rain. Their average temperature is 15 celsius during the winter. The flowers are in full bloom there before the rest of us are even thawed out. BTW did you know that 32.3% of the U.S. is farther north than parts of Canada? Yet every year in the middle of summer we still get people coming across the border with skiis on their roof looking for a place to go? Some who should know better. Just today saw a car from Michigan driving through Toronto with skiis and a snowmobile in tow! :-) ;-) Their farther north than most of southwestern Ontario! (Sorry! Just think it's funny. Don't mean to be poking fun at any Americans.;) ) Terry Toronto, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: >(Sorry! Just think it's funny. Don't mean to be poking >fun at any Americans.;) ) Please continue... After all we do it to each other all the time. Feeling bored in Southern New Jersey [State Motto: The weather's been crazy all summer but that's all right cause it makes us seem normal. %^) ] --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:13:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Dragons, on and off cakes.... Message-ID: Mel, I just had Netscape installed (***Hooray!****), so could you please send me your www address so that I can take a look? Please? I once made a dragon cake. This was when I was dating and totally infatuated/obsessed with my first husband, and made the big mistake of asking him what he wanted for his birthday. It was a mistake because a) at the time I did not know how to cook or bake, and because, since his name was George, he said he wanted a cake showing St. George and the Dragon. That was probably the most iced sheet cake in all creation; my girlfriend showed me how to make a double batch of icing, and I used almost all of it in creating the dragon...and got so interested I suddenly realized that there wasn't enough room left on the top of the cake for St. George and/or his horse. St. George was a little plastic baby doll that I made aluminum foil plate armor for, with a felt tabard and a red feather plume. I add with pride, having never made armor before or since, that the visor went up and down. The horse was the hardest, since I discovered the hard way, combing through every possible store in the greater Pittsburgh area, that kids were no longer playing with toy horses (this was back in '75, before the play unicorns appeared here). I finally made the horse from foil and twigs, and the damned thing would NOT stand up. After spending some 17+ hours on the whole thing, I presented to the prince who later turned into a frog the dragon cake, with St. George and the horse on the table next to the cake. George: "Why isn't the horse standing up?" Me: "The dragon killed it." George: "Oh. I was just kidding about the cake. I really don't like cake much." My girlfriend: "Blow out the flames of the candles coming out of its mouth so Barra can cut you a LARGE piece--which you *will* enjoy." The Bag End cake I made for his mother a couple of years later was much easier. (For non-Tolkien readers, that was the name of the Hobbit barrow occupied by Bilbo and Frodo Baggins in the *Lord of the Rings* trilogy). Jerry (or Ian), whomever is doing this link thing: I have a home page created by my current husband John. Would he have to make a change in it for the link to be made at your end? Obviously, I'm not the geek in our family....8^) Seems to me that people who ban books are not far removed from those who would willingly become the kind of "true believers" who follow fanatics they allow to make decisions for them, like Jim Jones et al. I can see that for some it would be a terrific relief to hand over the responsibility to someone else, and just follow; it could be quite alluring. But the scary thing is what happens when the leader gets off track....I've made some serious mistakes (the prince who turned into a frog being one of the biggest), but I think I'll just muddle along on my own, trying to learn from them. As ML says, "There is no one true way." And as I've said at least once before, there are a LOT of Holderkin types out there, alas. On a more cheerful note, at an Apple Festival near Gettysburg, PA a few years ago, John bought from a vendor and presented to me a brass dragon figure. Smaug sits on his hind legs, wings outstretched for balance, right between my Pern and *LOTR* books. His neck isn't long enough to be considered a firelizard. 8^) --Barra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:24:23 -0500 From: h-wilfehrt-+AT+-nwu.edu (Helen M. Wilfehrt) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: valdemar special days Message-ID: <199507071524.AA008970663-+AT+-casbah.acns.nwu.edu> There were both Winter and Summer Solstice Holiday celebrations. Sovvan (sp?) was in the summer, and Talia's birthday was the eve of that day . Plus, Sovvan was also the anniversary of Tylendel's death. Those seemed to be the only more global, or Valdemaran (?), holidays. With the policy of "No one true way", I would imagine most of other holidays would be more local events according to the traditions of the people in a given region rather than national celebrations. Good reading -Helen >In a message dated 95-07-06 06:57:49 EDT, you write: > >>Hmm. I can remember a reference to Sovvan, and wasn't something in Arrows of >>the Queen about a midwinter feast? That would probably suggest they (or at >>least some of them :-) ) celebrate at the quarter days, equinoxes and >>solstices. I assume other religous holidays vary by religion, and I don't >>recall seeing any founding-of-Valdemar anniversaries - presumably because >>there wasn't a clear cut date. >> >>-- >> _|_ >> / | Jerry Cullingford jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Work) >> \_|_ jc-+AT+-selune.demon.co.uk (Home) >>\__/ Hemel Hempstead, UK jerry-+AT+-shell.portal.com (alternate) >> >> >> > >I think that I remember reading, not sure which one, that for Talia there was >something special for the summer solstice. Was it her birthingday? Or was >there something else going on? > >Matt > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >All this queer-bashing has simply got to stop. -- Rev. Ray Broshears. >Rev. Ray Broshears founds the Lavendar Panthers in San Francisco, July 6, >1973. >Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. -- Bette Midler. >Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to >control mine? >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:33:44 -0400 From: "Jennifer S. Broekman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: <199507071633.MAA16889-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu> Gyrfalcon wrote: >>(Sorry! Just think it's funny. Don't mean to be poking >>fun at any Americans.;) ) >Please continue... After all we do it to each other all the time. Indeed... >Feeling bored in Southern New Jersey [State Motto: The weather's been >crazy all summer but that's all right cause it makes us seem normal. %^) ] And here I thought New Jersey's motto was "Which exit?":-) -jenneke, in taxachusetts I *am* family. How could I not have family values? Only Boys Accepting Feminism Get Kissed Meaningfully -- Geoff Marcy The only unnatural sexual act is that which you cannot perform. -Alfred Kinsey broekman-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu | http://www-astro.phast.umass.edu/gs/jenn.html ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jul 95 12:31:50 EST From: "Kenneth Boardman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 68 Message-ID: <331C170273F-+AT+-lyceum.trumbull.kent.edu> This is off the subject, but does anyone have the first edition of the DGate Cycle (Dragonwing)? I have been looking to buy this book for many years. I know that you will think that this is tacky, but I have tried all avenues to get this book and this is the last place that I can think of that I might be able to find it. Kenneth Elwood Boardman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:09:42 -0400 From: "Jennifer S. Broekman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: valdemar special days Message-ID: <199507071709.NAA16944-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu> Helen M. Wilfehrt wrote: >There were both Winter and Summer Solstice Holiday celebrations. Sovvan >(sp?) was in the summer, and Talia's birthday was the eve of that day . >Plus, Sovvan was also the anniversary of Tylendel's death. Those seemed to >be the only more global, or Valdemaran (?), holidays. With the policy of >"No one true way", I would imagine most of other holidays would be more >local events according to the traditions of the people in a given region >rather than national celebrations. Sovvan is not in the summer. Sovvan is the harvest festival and the day when the barrier between the worlds is thinnest, in the fall. This would make it Samhain/Halloween. We've also seen Midsummer and Midwinter celebrated. My guess is that all of the Quarter (solstice and equinox) and Cross-Quarter (St.Brigid/Valentine's, <>/Pentecost(?), Lugnasadh, Samhain/All Saints') days are celebrated, by most of the religions. So, while they wouldn't precisely be national holidays in the way July 4th, Canada Day, and Thanksgiving are, they're likely celebrated by the vast majority of Valdemarans. (In our world, many major religions also celebrate the Quarter and Cross-Quarter days, although they tend not to call them that anymore...) -jenneke I *am* family. How could I not have family values? Only Boys Accepting Feminism Get Kissed Meaningfully -- Geoff Marcy The only unnatural sexual act is that which you cannot perform. -Alfred Kinsey broekman-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu | http://www-astro.phast.umass.edu/gs/jenn.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:17:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: > And here I thought New Jersey's motto was "Which exit?":-) That's only Northern New Jersey. All we have down here are Tomatoes, Green Peppers, and New Jersey Corn... Best in the world! --Gyrfalcon Who is eagerly waiting to get home to see if there's any tomatoes left in the house. =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:32:02 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Banned Books 12 Message-ID: <950707153201_109994334-+AT+-aol.com> 101) SLAUGHTERHOUSE-FIVE, Kurt Vonnegut. Considered "dangerous" because of violent, irreverent, profane, and sexually explicit content. BURNED Drake, NC (1973); Rochester, MI (1972); Levittown, NY (1975); North Jackson, OH (1979); Lakeland, FL (1982). Barred, (from purchase) Washington Park High School Racine, WI (1984). Challenged, Owensboro, KY High School Library, (1985). 102) SPYCATCHER, Peter Wright. Controversial because "author violated his secrecy oath under the Official Secrets Act." Banned in England and India (1987). 103) SUPERFUDGE, Judy Blume. Disapproval based on "profane, immoral and offensive, content." Challenged, Casper, WY School Libraries (1984); Bozeman, MT School Libraries (1985). 104) TELL IT TO THE KING, Larry King. "Contains foul language" and is considered an "insult to one's intelligence." Challenged, Public Libraries of Saginaw, MI (1989). 105) THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW, S.E. Hinton. Objections to "graphic language, subject matter, immoral tone and lack of literary quality." Challenged, Pagosa Springs, CO Schools (1983). 106) TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, Harper Lee. Considered "dangerous" because of profanity and undermining of race realations. Challenged (temporarily banned) in Eden Valley MN (1977); Vernon-Verona-Sherrill, NY School Disrtict (1980); Warren, IN Township Schools (1981); Waukeganm IL School District (1984); Kansas City, MO Junior High Schools (1985); Park Hill, MO Junior High School (1985). Protested by parents and NAACP Casa Grande, AZ Elementary School District (1985). 107) TRULY TASTELESS JOKES, Blanche Knott. Removed (from open display) Casa Grande, AZ Public Library (1988); Restricted to asult use only with proof of age before checking the book out or even looking at it. 108) UNCLE TOM'S CABIN, Harriet Beecher Stowe. Use of the word "nigger" caused opposition to this novel. Challenged, Waukegan, WI School District (1984). 109) WHERE THE SIDEWALK ENDS, Shel Silverstein. Thought of as unermining parental, school and religious authority by oppents. Pulled from shelves for review Miot, ND Public School Libraries (1986). Challenged, Xenia, OH School Libraries, (1983). 110) WHERE'S WALDO, Martin Hanford. Considered to contain "dirty scenes" on some of the pages. Challenged By a Public Library in Saginaw, MI ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:49:46 -0400 From: MaryKite-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 68 Message-ID: <950707154939_27359656-+AT+-aol.com> >This is off the subject, but does anyone have the first edition of >the DGate Cycle (Dragonwing)? I have been looking to buy this >book for many years. I know that you will think that this is >tacky, but I have tried all avenues to get this book and this is the >last place that I can think of that I might be able to find it. >Kenneth Elwood Boardman The Sci-Fi Book Club might still have it. That's where I got my copy a while back. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:00:31 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Banned Books 6 Message-ID: <950707155944_110013202-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 95-07-07 03:41:31 EDT, you write: >(As a side note, Katherine Patterson is the author of many wonderful >children's books including BRIDGE TO TERABITHIA and THE GREAT GILLY HOPKINS >which have both appeared on these lists). I wish I could have been there to >see his face!!! >-Andra > > > You and me both girl! You and me both. I find that it is the most opionated jerks that do these cruel things to books that make a childs imgination want to soar! Matt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All issues are women's issues, and all issues are men's issues becuase we live on the planet together and affect one another. We're encouraging people to see each other realistically and not just as stereotypes of gender and sexuality. -- Mo Gaffney. Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. -- Bette Midler. Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to control mine? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:00:30 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: <950707160027_110013790-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 95-07-07 12:59:50 EDT, you write: >Feeling bored in Southern New Jersey [State Motto: The weather's been >>crazy all summer but that's all right cause it makes us seem normal. %^) ] > >And here I thought New Jersey's motto was "Which exit?":-) > >-jenneke, in taxachusetts > > And I thought it was one of the following. Jersey, why do you want to go there! Not to mention, Just passing through! Then there is How do I get out of these damned traffic circles! Matt Where in PA the speed limit has become more civilized and caught up with the rest of the country--65! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All issues are women's issues, and all issues are men's issues because we live in the planet together and affect each other. We're encouraging people to see each other realistically and not just as stereotypes of gender and sexuality. Mo Gaffney. Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. -- Bette Midler. Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to control mine? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 16:01:04 -0400 From: URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: valdemar special days Message-ID: <950707160030_110013826-+AT+-aol.com> In a message dated 95-07-07 14:11:54 EDT, you write: >(In our world, many major religions also celebrate the Quarter and >Cross-Quarter days, although they tend not to call them that >anymore...) > >-jenneke I believe that we can thank the Catholic Church for that! Matt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All issues are women's issues and all issues are men's issues becasue we live on the planet together and affect each other. We're encouraging people to see each other realistically and not just as stereotypes of gender and sexuality. -- Mo Gaffney. Let's stop treating the earth like an ashtray. -- Bette Midler. Why are some people so miserable in their own lives that they must try to control mine? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 18:47:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Jul 1995 URAMESS-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 95-07-07 12:59:50 EDT, you write: > > >Feeling bored in Southern New Jersey [State Motto: The weather's been > >>crazy all summer but that's all right cause it makes us seem normal. %^) ] > > > >And here I thought New Jersey's motto was "Which exit?":-) > > > >-jenneke, in taxachusetts > > > > > > And I thought it was one of the following. Jersey, why do you want to go > there! Not to mention, Just passing through! Then there is How do I get out > of these damned traffic circles! > > Matt > Where in PA the speed limit has become more civilized and caught up with the > rest of the country--65! What's wrong with our circles? They beat those stupid traffic lights anytime! Oh for a decent speed limit! :~( --Gyrfalcon One of my favorite things to do on the weekends is get on a Circle and scare the tourists! Oh yeah, people come here for the beaches in Cape May. =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 22:54:43 -0400 From: "Jennifer S. Broekman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: country Message-ID: <199507080254.WAA17310-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu> Gyrfalcon wrote: >One of my favorite things to do on the weekends is get on a Circle and >scare the tourists! New Jersey drivers scare all sane people, in or out of your traffic circles.:-) -jenneke I *am* family. How could I not have family values? Only Boys Accepting Feminism Get Kissed Meaningfully -- Geoff Marcy The only unnatural sexual act is that which you cannot perform. -Alfred Kinsey broekman-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu | http://www-astro.phast.umass.edu/gs/jenn.html ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 70 ********************************