MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 169 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: aspects of the Star-Eyed by wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) 2) Re: Velgarth and country names by "Cecile S. Ueltschey" 3) Re: Storm Warning (God question) by "Cecile S. Ueltschey" 4) Re: Huh? by Alan Fleming 5) new books by DREAMSINGER 6) Re: aspects of the Star-Eyed by "Jennifer S. Broekman" 7) Re: Storm Warning (God question) by jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com (Jeanne Hedge) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:07:47 -0700 From: wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: aspects of the Star-Eyed Message-ID: <199510061807.LAA14134-+AT+-ix4.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > >From: William Jones >stuff snipped.. >> >> The Kal'endral are sworn to Kal'enel, the warrior... The shaman are >> sworn to all the goddess' aspects... There is a sect (for lack of a >> better word) of Kal'endral that are mentioned in both SW and W1 that >> are sworn to both Warrior and Crone, these where Navy instead of >> black... > >No, the shaman are _not_ sworn to all four aspects. There _is_ a mention >of such a thing IIRC in either WoFury or Storms 1 or 2 by An'desha, but >it's not a shaman. The shaman are sworn only to the Crone. > >Mat T. > I apologise for the mistake... Shaman are sworn to the Crone, Kal'endral to the Warrior, and The Keepers of Knowledge to both... Makes sense if you think about it... :) BTW: does anyone know if the other 2 aspects have their own "sworn"? and if so, what are they? - Shadow-Lover A sociopath with no restraints can become anything... Amorality frees her to be universally perfect, a charming chamelion with a scorpions tail... -Color of Night ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 14:55:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Cecile S. Ueltschey" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Velgarth and country names Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Oct 1995, David K. Storrs wrote: > [snip! whack! massive numbers of bytes hacked into teeny tiny nibbles and > shot into /dev/null! (ok, I'm a computer geek...sue me. :> ] > The Velgareth book that I know of include: > > Vows and Honor (read) > By the Sword (read) > Last Herald Mage (read) > Arrows of... series (read) > Winds of... series (read) > Black Gryphon (read) > more gryphon books (desperately desiring info) > Storm ... series (not read, curious) > > Ermmm...I think that's it. In all of these books, do we ever > actually see anything of Iftel or the Eastern Empire? I'm curious about > "that deity" in Iftel, and the hints of the Eastern Empire from the Arrows > books have me ITCHING. Any word? > > Dave In the end of the Winds books, there is an ambassador from the Emperor of the Eastern Empire at Ancar's court who escapes through a Gate, followed by Elspeth's dagger, in the "all-hell-breaks-loose" scene when Ancar is killed. In Storm Warning (and it IS out in paperback, so run out and get it!) there are sections which are from the point of view of one of the Empire nobles (there, that shouldn't be TOO much of a spoiler) and some action at the end takes place at the Iftel/Valdemar border (okay, that's an understatement for those who have read it, but Dave hasn't and I don't want to give anything IMPORTANT away!!). So, Dave -- GO SATISFY YOUR CURIOSITY!! 8-D AND ENJOY!! (one caveat, some members of the list and a.b.m-l have expressed some disappointment with SW, but mainly because some favorite characters aren't central ones like in other books) Zhai'helleva Cecile ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:01:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Cecile S. Ueltschey" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Storm Warning (God question) Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, William Jones wrote: > > My arguments dealing with Iftel are that Kethry's goddess was the > Windborn Lady... The Star-Eyed said that she was another face of > Kethry's own goddess... And the dieties of Iftel are the Wind-Lords... > See the simalarities? > > Shadow-Lover I seem to be the only one remembering that it was Kethry that said to Tarma regarding the Star-Eyed "she seems to be another face of my own Lady Windborn" (probably not an exact quote, but close enough!). Am I the one that is crazy? (no, wait, not the darts again HA - you missed!!) But, yes, Iftel's deities are termed Windlords and I do wonder at any connection to Kethry's Lady Windborn.....hmmmmm. Cecile ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:29:30 +0000 From: Alan Fleming To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Huh? Message-ID: <9510062235.aa03816-+AT+-relay-3.mail.demon.net> > Where was it stated that the name of the world is Velgarth? I > thought that I read all the books, but that completely slipped by > me. > > > Zhai'helleva, > David It's certainly mentioned in the Black Gryphon. Alan. -- ______ \ __/___ Alan Fleming. \ \ / Work: Open to Offers :-) \/\ / Home: etrigan-+AT+-rhyme.demon.co.uk \/ and: etrigan-+AT+-cix.compulink.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 19:48:29 -0400 (EDT) From: DREAMSINGER To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: D_Standingwo-+AT+-LVC.EDU Subject: new books Message-ID: <951006194829.37d16-+AT+-LVC.EDU> Have the new books that were due out in sept. already come out? My isolated part of the world dosen't have them (gryphon/storm) -Dreamsinger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 00:38:32 -0400 From: "Jennifer S. Broekman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: aspects of the Star-Eyed Message-ID: <199510070438.AAA15021-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu> William Jones wrote: >Makes sense if you think about it... :) BTW: does anyone know if the >other 2 aspects have their own "sworn"? and if so, what are they? In one of the stories, it's stated that the Maiden and the Mother do not have their own "sworn". -jenneke I *am* family. How could I not have family values? Only Boys Accepting Feminism Get Kissed Meaningfully -- Geoff Marcy The only unnatural sexual act is that which you cannot perform. -Alfred Kinsey broekman-+AT+-sparky.phast.umass.edu | http://www-astro.phast.umass.edu/gs/jenn.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 08:36:38 -0400 From: jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com (Jeanne Hedge) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Storm Warning (God question) Message-ID: <9510071236.AA14643-+AT+-water.waterw.com> > > >On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, William Jones wrote: > >> >> My arguments dealing with Iftel are that Kethry's goddess was the >> Windborn Lady... The Star-Eyed said that she was another face of >> Kethry's own goddess... And the dieties of Iftel are the Wind-Lords... >> See the simalarities? >> >> Shadow-Lover > >I seem to be the only one remembering that it was Kethry that said to >Tarma regarding the Star-Eyed "she seems to be another face of my own >Lady Windborn" (probably not an exact quote, but close enough!). Am I >the one that is crazy? (no, wait, not the darts again >HA - you missed!!) "The Oathbound", the scene where the priest is trying to restore Tarma's bond with the Star-eyed, Kethry is told to "tell the Warrior that the bond has been broken and needs to be restored..." So Kethry is begging the Lady to hear her, and then Star-eyed replies (on pg 296): "I am nothing but another face of your own Lady Windborn -- how could I not know you?" Jeanne Hedge jhedge-+AT+-water.waterw.com 75512.1214-+AT+-compuserve.com ================================================================ "Water, water everywhere, nor any drop to drink..." --Samuel Taylor Coleridge, 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner' ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 169 *********************************