MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 200 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Hallowe'en by Rich Crawford 2) Re: Narnia by Amy Mason 3) Re: Hallowe'en by Rich Crawford 4) RE: book recomendations by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 5) RE: book recomendations by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 6) Re: Narnia by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 7) re: Books'n'such by Putty Tat 8) Re: books'n'such by Amy Mason 9) Re: Hallowe'en by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 10) Re: Tad Williams by KJohn20849-+AT+-aol.com 11) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 197 by "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" 12) NEW POLL! by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 13) Re: Hallowe'en by Ned 14) Re: Too Dim Villains and a recommendation by Ned 15) Re: Hallowe'en by letha-+AT+-utdallas.edu 16) Re: Tepper by urtho-+AT+-stargazer.netshop.net (Kyle Matheson) 17) Re: halloween (sort of); *quite* off topic by gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) 18) Re: Hallowe'en by gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) 19) Re: middle books by gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) 20) Re: Hallowe'en by Adrienne York 21) Re: A new book to recommend by Adrienne York 22) Re: halloween (sort of); *quite* off topic by Adrienne York 23) Re: Narnia by Adrienne York 24) Re: halloween (sort of); *quite* off topic by ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) 25) Re: Off the subject just a bit... by ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) 26) Re: A new book to recommend by ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) 27) RE: Firerose by ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) 28) Re: Hallowe'en by "Kristine E. Johnston" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:17:37 -0800 From: Rich Crawford To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: <199510312217.OAA00649-+AT+-franc.ucdavis.edu> <*CHOMP*> > I wonder if they ever stop to think that the timing of Christmas is not so >coincidentially right around Yule ( and isn't Yuletide an accepted word >used to describe that time of year? (OK< so it is a retorical question..)). <*Crunch. Chew chew chew. Yum.*> I might be wrong about this, but wasn't Christmas originally scheduled around Yule in order to make it more palatable to the non-Christians of the time? IIRC from my Religious Studies classes, most contemporary scholarship puts Christ's birth sometime in March. Come to think of it, I think Easter was scheduled near the Spring Solstice for exactly the same reason. ............................................................................ ................................ Zhai'helleva Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:17:10 -0800 (PST) From: Amy Mason To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Narnia Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Rosario Holsen-Baker wrote: > Hey! What about Tim Roth? Or Cary Elwes? Or... > I am not who I am...can't you tell? > Oh dear. That chem test affected me more than I thought. > On a more relevant note, has anyone else an opinion on Marion > Zimmer Bradley's _Mists of Avalon_ and _Forest House_? > > |------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | Tygra Nightblades | > | | > | File not found: _Meaning of life_ | > | Abort, Retry, Ignore? | > | | > |------------------------------------------------------------------------| About Bradley's _Mists of Avalon_ and _The Forest House_.... I read "Mists" first and thoroughy enjoyed it. It was different from all the King Arthur/Sir Lancelot stories I've ever read. I liked Marion's use of magic in the goddesses. About _The Forest House_ I was disappointed in the beginning. There was hardly any fantasy to the story. It wasn't until the later half of the story when she started using the magic of the goddess. It took me a while to connect "forest" with "mists", because it is titled as the "prequel" to Mists. Anybody else like to comment? Amy :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:22:34 -0800 From: Rich Crawford To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: <199510312222.OAA01666-+AT+-franc.ucdavis.edu> At 04:14 PM 10/31/95 GMT, you wrote: >Is anyone beside me irritated by the fact that much of America seems to >honestly think that Hallowe'en is a night of devil worship? Now I will >admit that All Hallows Eve is a night of many _pagan_ rituals (emphasizing >that 'pagan' just means not Christian), but most of these rituals are >concerned with keeping evil AWAY from us. > >I am getting very annoyed because there was a story on the national news >about 2 weeks ago about a town in the Midwest where the school asked >children not to wear costumes in because Hallowe'en is a holiday of devil >worship, and they didn't want to have their children celebrating a holiday >of the devil. Also, the last issue of Newsweek had a snippet in it about >another town where a church (also against the devil worship night of >Hallowe'en) is sposoring "Hell Night", where they are putting on a graphic >demonstration of Hell (and what will get you there) as an alternative to the >mainstream Hallowe'en activities. > >Now I will admit that there are some cults that are particularly fond of >Hallowe'en for rituals, and Samhain is an important night for modern >"witches". But I seriously doubt that Hallowe'en is truly, for the large >majority of people, a night of devil worship. > All I can say is, those Christian who scream that Hallowe'en (or role-playing games or He-Man action figures or chocolate chip cookies or whatever) promotes devil worship DO NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT represent all of us Christians!!!!! I wish they would crawl back into their holes and realize they are not the Voice of God. Sorry. Got that rant out of my system now. Peace Rich, the role-playing-Hallowe'en-celebrating-chocolate-chip-eating Zen Episcopalian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:24:29 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: RE: book recomendations Message-ID: <951031152429.2240aeaf-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> I also was never able to get through anything by Tolkien. When I first started reading SF, I was told over and over that if you haven't read Asimov, you haven't read SF. And that Asimov's Foundation was *the* cornerstone of SF. Morons. :) Anyway, I forced my way through all of it, and have regretted those wasted hours ever since. It was awful. Obviously others liked it, but my tastes didn't match theirs at all. I vowed never to force myself through another set of books. Then along came Stephen Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series. Again I forced myself through it, and have finally realized that when it don't wanna it don't wanna. It's seldom worth it to force your way through. IMHO of course :) There are other books on the other hand, that I know I would like if I could just get past the first 100 pages, such as the Shanaran series. Anyway, to try to brief this up a bit, I loved McCaffrey, Lackey, Diane Duane's So you want to be a Wizard, Edding's Belgariad, etc etc. But many of the books/authors metioned over the last few days, such as Brin, Tepper, and particularly Tolkien and Simmons have left me cold. And yet there are people on this list who love several mixtures of these authors. So our tastes certainly overlap somewhere. On recommendation of this list, I'll give Patricia Keneally (is that right) another shot. And probably Brin too. :) I've gone more right than wrong thanks to you lot when it comes to reading materials. You found Gossamer Axe for me, and Tanya Huff! Which I'm enjoying immensely. To return the favor, anything by Raymond Feist is worth checking out. In my opinion one of the best "epic" fantasy types, depending on your definition of epic of course. StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:28:54 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: RE: book recomendations Message-ID: <951031152854.2240aeaf-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> On McCaffrey: Until you all pointed it out, and you have to believe me on this, I had read ALL the Pern books, some a half-a-dozen times or more, and never once even suspected homosexuality. Admittedly, I was slightly younger and naiver when I read and reread this stuff. The only McCaffrey I've read in recent years were the Crystal Singer books, and once in a while the Harper Hall books. Despite my lack of any great musical talent, I desperately wanted (want?) to be in that Hall. At any rate, one day soon I will go back and reread the Pern books looking for this stuff. I don't know how I could have missed it but I most assuredly did. Unfortunately it makes it a bitter returning. I think I was happier when Pern was a simpler, hetero world - not saying that because I was specifically happy with the hetero aspect, just that I didn't know about McCaffrey's prejudices and often knowing too much about an author will color my enjoyment of their books. I still remember finding out too much about Misty's attitude towards/problems with fans, and it definitely put me off for a little while. :( StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:31:46 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Narnia Message-ID: <951031153146.2240aeaf-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> I was fortunate to be living in Britain when I discovered the Narnia books (when I was about 7), since in Britain they were very easy to come by. I enjoyed them all, though I think the Last Battle was the best. [spoiler - though not really, does anyone not know who Aslan is??] Even finding out that Aslan was a euphemism for Christ didn't throw me at all. Aslan was simply goodness personified. If C.S. Lewis felt that was Christ then so be it. I have the fondest memories of these books, though I found a few years ago I could no longer read them - unfortunately I seem to have outgrown them. Perhaps someday I will grow into them again? Starwolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 17:40:29 -0500 (EST) From: Putty Tat To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Books'n'such Message-ID: on the subject of young adult authors I would like to add Tamora Pierce. Along with Robin McKinley and The Narnia series, her books started me on my love of fantasy. I think my favorite novel that she wrote is In the Hand of the Goddess. She has strong female characters but she doesn't make out men to be weak or evil. Anyone else had favorable (or of course unfavorable) experiences with either her work or McKinley's (she wrote The Blue Sword and the Hero and the Crown)? Kathleen Wing ************************************** * ^0 0^ Kat Wing * * >o< wingk-+AT+-river.it.gvsu.edu * * \_/ Wind to thy wings! * ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:46:51 -0800 (PST) From: Amy Mason To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: books'n'such Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Rich Crawford wrote: > Did anyone else enjoy Tad Williams' series "Memory, Sorrow and Thorn" (_The > Dragonbone Chair_, _Stone of Farewell_, and _To Green Angel Tower_)? I > often feel like I'm the only one. > ............................... > Zhai'helleva > Rich Yes! Another Tad Williams fan! I accidently picked up _To Green Angel Tower_ before reading the other books. It took me about half way through the first part to figure everything out, then the story took over and I was enthralled. I just bought the preceding books in the series and have read the Dragonbone Chair, though some of the excitement was lost because I've already read the last book. So, Rich, NO, you are _not_ the only one who likes Tad Williams! Amy :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:44:24 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: <951031154424.2240aeaf-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> > >Sorry about this: I just dealt with a claim by someone over on >alt.fan.eddings that was arguing that is God stopped willing the univers >too exist, then it would disappear. He based this on the theory by some >philosopher named Berkley that claimed that nothing exists except for >when we perceive it. (I guess he is sayint that a tree cannot fall in >the forest if noone is there to hear it, since it doesn't exist unless >there is someone there....) > My husband is attending a southern baptist university here in town (long story as to why) and he has to take a philosophy class this semester. They used the above argument to prove the existence of God! After all, the tree did fall, and since no one was there to hear it, then God must have been there, therefore God exists. Or something to that effect. The basic principle in this class is that if it can be proven or shown, it's science. All else is philosophy. StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:26:27 -0500 From: KJohn20849-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tad Williams Message-ID: <951031182624_94514031-+AT+-emout06.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 95-10-30 20:53:17 EST, Holly writes: >Has anyone read his non-MS&T book, _Tailchaser's >Song_? It's basically _Watership Down_ with cats, but I absolutely adored >it. (I was a cat in a former life, you see... *purrgrin*) > >Hollie Virgin >ehvirg00-+AT+-pop.uky.edu I loved Tailchaser's song. I'm still waiting for a sequel! Purry grins to you, Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:27:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Barbara G. Jacob-McDowell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 197 Message-ID: Colette, Sounds like you and I like a lot of the same books! Question: I think it was you who mentioned getting "the first 3 of her [Diane Duane's] books in hardcover...kind of silly, but fun." (that may be paraphrased a bit, but is close) Do you mean her Door books? (*Door into Shadow*, *Door into Fire*, *Door into, into, drat, can't think of the other one, my whole system is clogged up with sugar from nibbling on indian corn candy today.....) Anyhoo, those? And is this a series having more than those 3? What is this "How to be a Wizard"? Seems to me I tried to order it once from a Waldenbooks and never heard anything again. Where can I get it? Boo! --Barra, who regrets that at 46 she is the youngest person living in her building, so no kids coming by tonight. 8^( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:28:56 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: NEW POLL! Message-ID: <951031162856.2240aeaf-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> That's right, it's time for a new poll. Please do not respond directly to the list! I will compile data for a few days and post results. Since I find myself so often on the other political spectrum from some of you, I thought a "straw" poll might be interesting. I promise to keep all information confidential, and since I seldom associate anything with any net personality, I won't hold anything you say against you (in other words no matter what you tell me, I doubt I'll remember it was *you* yes *you* a day from now :) Are you: 1. Conservative 2. Liberal 3. libertarian 4. Republican 5. Democrat 6. Other Yes, I've left off a lot of stuff, just fill in the blanks. And certainly you could be more than one of these. These categories are just to give you a starting point. I'll naturally take the info and categorize it in a way that makes the most sense to me. Hope you all will participate. StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: Ned To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Thomas, Daria wrote: > You know, I find this interesting. Speaking as a Christian myself, I seem > to > be lucky--I was raised thinking of Halloween as All Saint's Day and a chance > for a lot of candy. But a friend of mine who teaches in a strict Jewish > daycare is having fits because the kids aren't allowed to even mention > Halloween there, since "it's a Christian holiday." Why do people do these > things to themselves--and their kids? In the infamous "Letters to the Editor" in the Roanoke Times, someone tried to make a case that Halloween celebrations should be banned because of seperation of Church and State. Her reasoning was that Halloween is "a witch's celebration and if we have to accept that this is a valid religion then we can't have Halloween celebrations in schools" Zhai'helleva Ned Ned Adams aka S. Baldrick Sometimes it is better to light a sbaldric-+AT+-roanoke.infi.net flamethrower than to curse the darkness (540) 890-0212 (T. Pratchett) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:42:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ned To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Too Dim Villains and a recommendation Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Cecile S. Ueltschey wrote: > Do that, Amy. Fifth Quarter came out earlier in the summer (I found out > about in on the a.b.m-l group (I think!)). It is set on the same world > as SFQ, but is in the Empire (? - can't remember the name of it) that > Annice's brother's (the king) wife is from. It's a different view, but I > liked it a lot. All being enclosed, its good! ;) > Can I get away with reading "Fith Quarter" without reading the 1st one? Noe of the bookstores around here have WInds Four Quarters, and trying to order it will take a while. Zhai'helleva Ned Ned Adams aka S. Baldrick Sometimes it is better to light a sbaldric-+AT+-roanoke.infi.net flamethrower than to curse the darkness (540) 890-0212 (T. Pratchett) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 17:43:26 -0600 (CST) From: letha-+AT+-utdallas.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: Walk with the Prophets. On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Jean Morrill wrote: > I am confused, or maybe just mentally mixing up old celebrations. I > thought Halloween has something to do with the end of the Harvest season > also. What and when is the holiday where people used to (maybe still do) > celebrate the end of the harvest/beginning of winter? And (or is this yet > another celebration) couples jump hand-in-hand over fire/piles-of-coals/ > broomsticks to ensure either a happy year together, or fertility, or both. > > It's definitely been too long since I studied anything other than hydrology > or atmospheric physics. Save me!! > > Jean > > p.s. Since I have no object to Halloween as a holiday or a day of fun, I > am dressed as a Bajoran (from Star Trek) complete with earring and nose > ridges (which itch). Today my department also boasts a witch, a ghost, a > water diviner, and a geologist. Is anyone else is costume? > Yes. I'm going as a medieval wench, and one of my friends is planning to be a Roman. :) Personally, this is my favourite holiday. And I thought it started out as the Celtic Feast of the Dead. Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think it had anything to do with Harvest. Sorry. Have fun tonight!!! Letha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 16:10 PST From: urtho-+AT+-stargazer.netshop.net (Kyle Matheson) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tepper Message-ID: >> >>>Oh, Vivian, don't be ashamed to admit you never finished the Hobbit. I >>>have never read one Tolkien book. >>runs away from the crazed villagers carrying torches.> I couldn't get >>>through all the description in the Hobbit, which I tried to start. Well, >>>I was much younger then, though. Maybe I'll try to read it during >>>Intersession. I should hope I have a bigger attention span now. >>> >>>Adrienne > >> I will be the first to admitt that JRR Tolkien is long winded, But >>the insight behind his writing is incredable. He is the father of fantasy >>writing as we know it. ML comes close to him in this way, But he is the >>only writer I've ever read who has an entire history for every character and >>non-character whether they are mentioned once or a whole bunch of times. > >> Kyle Matheson >> > > >If you think Lord of The Rings is bad, try the Simarillion (sp?)! Not only >is it long winded, but dry as unbuttered toast! I've been trying for years >and can't get past page 50. I read Hobbit and the trillogy when I was >eleven and loved it, but have never managed to get through it again. I >havn't given up yet though. One day I'll get determined and do it. > >-Colette > > >gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com > > > You too! I've read the LofR's totally once, but I've read the the Fellowship about 8 times. I also have tried to read the Simarrillian and only got into it about 10 pages. Kyle Matheson Kyle Matheson urtho-+AT+-stargazer.netshop.net "Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die" Alfred, Lord Tennyson, 1854 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:38:42 -0800 From: gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: halloween (sort of); *quite* off topic Message-ID: <9511010028.AA24870-+AT+-baker> Anyone care to speculate on the cuteness of >Vanyel's (insert anatomical characteristic of your choice here) as >opposed to Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, or Val Kilmer (who I have >never seen.)? ;) > >I\/ Catherine Osborne Oh, well, without a doubt Vanyel rules supreme. Beautiful men have always been my type, even if (due to Vanyel's non-existance and sexual preferance) I am doomed to merely admire. Besides, looking is fun. Now who here hasn't daydreamed being in Stefan's position? (little voice- "but which one?!") -coltte gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:52:24 -0800 From: gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: <9511010042.AA25132-+AT+-baker> >I am confused, or maybe just mentally mixing up old celebrations. I >thought Halloween has something to do with the end of the Harvest season >also. What and when is the holiday where people used to (maybe still do) >celebrate the end of the harvest/beginning of winter? And (or is this yet >another celebration) couples jump hand-in-hand over fire/piles-of-coals/ >broomsticks to ensure either a happy year together, or fertility, or both. > No, you're remembering correctly. It's also the Celtic New Year. >Jean > >p.s. Since I have no object to Halloween as a holiday or a day of fun, I >am dressed as a Bajoran (from Star Trek) complete with earring and nose >ridges (which itch). Today my department also boasts a witch, a ghost, a >water diviner, and a geologist. Is anyone else is costume? Yah, I dressed as a Vampire from the Itallian Rennaisance. Wore a green silk dress(like julliet from the movie) complete with the poofy sleeves, ribbons, and pearls. Pearl headdress, gold brocade underdress, and white damask chamise. Red wool cloak w/ hood, lined with fake fur. Very realistic fangs that fit over the appropriate teeth (there are several people in Seattle Wa that custom make fangs). To complete the effect, a pair of embroidered ex-bedroom slippers. Was a definate success. Anyone else? Colette gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:58:56 -0800 From: gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: middle books Message-ID: <9511010048.AA25234-+AT+-baker> I "lurved" all the Vanyel books too...I just >didn't lurve that one quite as much as the other two. :) I think the only >Misty trilogy that I liked the middle one best was the Winds series...mostly >'cuz of all the stuff with Elspeth and Darkwind...what can I say, I'm a >hopeless romantic... *grin* > Can any one name a trillogy (book or movie) where the second one IS as good as the other two? I've been thinking about this for a while and really havn't found any. >Oh, and to whom it may apply...Happy New Year! :) :) Thankyou, that would enclude me and I wish you the same. > >Hollie Virgin gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:32:23 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: Well, you and I might not consider Halloween "devil night" But if you take devil to mean "any god not part of our sanctioned trilogy, disguised as a saint, or officialized as an angel" then I suppose one might call it devil night. It's certainly not a very Christian holiday. ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ;] Adrienne York-Minor ;] ;] "There is no 'One, True Way'" Valdemaran Law Codes ;] ;] ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu ;] ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: A new book to recommend Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Thomas, Daria wrote: > > Another recommendation: this is *not* a new book, but is being re-released. > The originals are nearly impossible to find now (and I've looked!) so try > "Fire Dancer" by Ann Maxwell. The next two in the series, "Dancer's Luck" > and "Dancer's Illusion" haven't yet been re-released, but read them when > they come out! > -Daria > I read "Fire Dancer" and "Dancer's Illusion". Never saw the other one, but would have been interested in reading it. They were great. Has this woman put anything else out? ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ;] Adrienne York-Minor ;] ;] "There is no 'One, True Way'" Valdemaran Law Codes ;] ;] ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu ;] ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:46:19 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: halloween (sort of); *quite* off topic Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Catherine Osborne wrote: > > Sorry this is so random. Anyone care to speculate on the cuteness of > Vanyel's (insert anatomical characteristic of your choice here) as > opposed to Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, or Val Kilmer (who I have > never seen.)? ;) My list: 1) Vanyel Ashkevron 2)Denzel Washington 3)Sean Connery 4)Patrick Stewart 5)Val Kilmer 6)Harrison Ford ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ;] Adrienne York-Minor ;] ;] "There is no 'One, True Way'" Valdemaran Law Codes ;] ;] ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu ;] ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Narnia Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Stacy Hunt DuVall wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 1995,Tygra Nightblades wrote: > > > Hey! What about Tim Roth? Or Cary Elwes? Or... > > I am not who I am...can't you tell? > > Oh dear. That chem test affected me more than I thought. > > > While we're listing, how about Tim Robbins > I'm adding to the list of people named Tim with Tim Curry ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ;] Adrienne York-Minor ;] ;] "There is no 'One, True Way'" Valdemaran Law Codes ;] ;] ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu ;] ;];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];];] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 21:22 CST From: ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: halloween (sort of); *quite* off topic Message-ID: > >Sorry this is so random. Anyone care to speculate on the cuteness of >Vanyel's (insert anatomical characteristic of your choice here) as >opposed to Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, or Val Kilmer (who I have >never seen.)? ;) The other newsgroups I frequent include Anne Rice fans and they are busy debating who would make a better Lestat, Tom Cruise or Val Kilmer. Now, I definitely do not want to start such a horrifyingly boring debate as that on this board, but I do wonder who you all think would make the perfect Vanyel. Now, before I can sign off I must give my own vote: the eternally beautiful Michael Praed of the Showtime Robin Hood Series, provided he get acting lessons! Happy grins all around! Firefly ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 21:22 CST From: ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Off the subject just a bit... Message-ID: > >Okay, guys, now how about Adrian Paul (who, BTW, appeared two weeks ago on >_Highlander_ in only his underdiddies)? Or Dean Cain? > (chanting and waving inscence, periodically smacking myself with a copy of The Silmarillion chiselled into a stone tablet) ADRIAN PAUL....ADRIAN PAUL...ADRIAN PAUL.... > > > Firefly ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 21:23 CST From: ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: A new book to recommend Message-ID: > >Another recommendation: this is *not* a new book, but is being re-released. > The originals are nearly impossible to find now (and I've looked!) so try >"Fire Dancer" by Ann Maxwell. The next two in the series, "Dancer's Luck" >and "Dancer's Illusion" haven't yet been re-released, but read them when >they come out! > -Daria > > I cheered when I read your post! I just picked up Fire Dancer at the recommendation of a friend. I can't wait until the sequels come out. I've heard that finally after ten years or so, Anne Maxwell, who also wrote an incredible space opera called Timeshadow Rider, is finally going to write a finisher for the Dancer series! Good reading. Firefly ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 21:27 CST From: ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net (erik ristuben) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: RE: Firerose Message-ID: >Firerose was a different twist then we are used to seeing from ML. > >READ IT READ IT!! > >Matt J > > While reading Fire Rose I found myself wishing for a fire and a furry bathrobe and my best friend to be sitting next to me reading another book the way we did in grade school, reading each other the best parts. One thing Misty is best at besides her character development is witty, snappy patter between characters and never is this more evident than in Fire Rose. Okayokay, I'll quit squawking about it, I'm sure I've made my opionion clear! (sorry about the typos folks, I just got my first pair of artificial nails and it's kind of like typing with your toes....) > Firefly ristuben-+AT+-webstar.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:01:23 CST From: "Kristine E. Johnston" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hallowe'en Message-ID: > > All I can say is, those Christian who scream that Hallowe'en (or > role-playing games or He-Man action figures or chocolate chip cookies or > whatever) promotes devil worship DO NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT represent all of > us Christians!!!!! I wish they would crawl back into their holes and > realize they are not the Voice of God. > > Sorry. Got that rant out of my system now. > > Peace > > Rich, the role-playing-Hallowe'en-celebrating-chocolate-chip-eating Zen > Episcopalian > > Thank goodness you exist. ( And all those bible thumpers wonder why I consider christianity to be a religion of hate mongers.) I was beginning to wonder if anybody still existed in christianity that wasn't trying to breed hate and intolerance for anybody who doesnt follow a specific preacher. The only thing christian about christmas is the name and the nativity. Too bad commercialism is ruining yule for the pagans also. Easter moves to much for me to believe (without more proof) that it simply took the place of the vernal equinox. Halloween is about the only proper pagan holiday left. And commercialism (read candy makers) are putting a dent into it. Not that I'm against trick or treating but it would be nice if people knew why you were supposed to feed the spirits that came to your door. This is one of the most fun filled holidays of the year for me and its sad when I see bigots trying to ruin it. D'accord Je t'aime, au revoir au revoir!!!! Kristy Johnston Augustana Rock Island, Illinois ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 200 *********************************