MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 297 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: acronyms by Kim Hatton 2) Re: YKYBRTMMLW by EGLESTON-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG 3) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 4) Re: YKYBRTMMLW: by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 5) Re: order of writing by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 6) Re: multiple personalities by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 7) Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 8) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 9) Re: 1996 ML - what I would like to see by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 10) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 11) Re: re- myriad subjects by Ashke 12) Re: multiple personalities by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 13) Re: YKYBRTMMLW: by Ashke 14) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by Ashke 15) Re: YKYBRTMMLW: by Ashke 16) Re: YKYBRTMMLW by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 17) Re: acronyms by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 18) Re: order of writing by Becky Anne Christensen 19) Re: Kero and Daren's Whites by EGLESTON-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG 20) Re: Tylendel by Becky Anne Christensen 21) Re: In the beginning... by Becky Anne Christensen 22) Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) by Becky Anne Christensen 23) Re: 1996 ML - what I would like to see by Becky Anne Christensen 24) Re: multiple personalities by Becky Anne Christensen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:46:20 +1100 (EST) From: Kim Hatton To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: acronyms Message-ID: <199601081746.EAA09083-+AT+-oznet02.ozemail.com.au> At 05:57 PM 6/01/96 GMT, Meg wrote: >someone asked for a list of acronyms to be posted. i don't know them all, but >since no one else seems to have done it, i'll do the common ones. >IIRC: if i remember correctly >ROTFL: rolling on the floor laughing >LMFAO: laughing my (figure it out for yourself) ass off. >IMO: in my opinion >IMHO: in my humble opinion > >these are the only ones i can think of right now. anyone else? > A few others: FUBAR : F***** up beyond all recognition AAMOF : As a matter of fact BAK : Back at Keyboard BBFN: Bye Bye for Now BTW: By the way CMIIW: Correct me if I'm wrong FITB: Fill in the Blank FYA: For your amusement HHOK: Ha Ha only kidding HOUEW Hanging on your every word IAC In any case IKWUM I know what you mean IOW In other words KWIM Know what I mean LOL Laughing out loud OIC Oh I see OTOH On the other hand PTMM Please tell me more TIC Tongue in Cheek TNTL Trying not to laugh TTKSF Trying to keep a straight face Kim Hatton klhatton-+AT+-ozemail.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:52:52 -0500 (EST) From: EGLESTON-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW Message-ID: <960108125252.280-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG> (what a fun thread!) You know when... --whenever someone asks you a question you start looking for a page reference. --you're watching tv late at night and catch yourself thinking that the Lone Ranger has a nice Companion. (Actually, I've thought that before, but I was referring to Tonto, not Silver.) --You catch yourself looking for colored ribbon-knots on the shoulders of the street musicians. --you hear someone being derided as a "lackey" and take five minutes to figure out that it was meant as an insult. Yoicks! and Away! Cindy (who can't be Hypatia because somebody on alt.books.m-lackey already snagged the name. Lessee, Hortensia, nope... Harriet, not likely...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > From: Gyrfalcon > > > > > > Gerald paused for a minute while loading his pickup truck. He > >grunted as he tossed in the twenty six volumes of "Gaining Information > >through the use of PUNishment: The Complete Piers Anthony Guide To > >Torture." Timmerman didn't have a chance... Just like last time. > > Hey, I resemble that remark! :) > > > "Timmerman", he thought, "I remember you, but will this be as > >easy as last time?" > > > Nope, this time I haven't read an Anthony book in years. And my many > rereads of Misty and Jordan will protect me. I hope...... > > > Mat > accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu > http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ > VAX is the source of all evil. > Is there something WRONG with Piers Anthony? Personally, I feel sick at the mention of Xanth after reading the first six books and almost frying my brain on bad writing, but right now I'm reading Incarnations of Immortality, and it isn't that bad (notice, I'm not saying it's good either). I enjoyed the series, and finished the first 5 in five days, but I can't even begin to compare it to Misty. Anyway, if someone could tell me why Piers Anthony is so bad, I'd like to know. And no, I'm not a supporter of him, so I don't deserve any Flames. -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Joshua Jones wrote: > At 08:47 PM 1/5/96 GMT, you wrote: > >> Alright new thread! > >> > >> You Know You've Been Reading Too Much Mercedes Lackey When: > >> > >> You walk by a white horse and spend the next fifteen minutes trying to get > >> it to talk to you. > >> > >> --Gyrfalcon > >> > >ok, I'll play > > > >2) You use Taledras or Shin'a'in words in normal conversation and > >people look at you wondering what you are talking about. Or else > >you have to consciously refrain from saying them when they are the > >first thing that comes to mind. > > > >3) You get hurt and ask for a Healer instead of a doctor. > > > >4) You go to San Franciso and actually look for Eric, Kory and Beth > >while wandering around the city. > > > >(so far only #2 has happened to me) > > > >Jean > >jean-+AT+-hwr.arizona.edu > > > *Shadow-Lover looks around to see who is watching him blush* Seeing as how I > have done both 1 & 2... and continues to speak in shin'a'in (fluently I > might add!) on a regular basis! *wink* I just *LOVE* the look on people's > faces when you say "Zhai'helleva" instead of "goodbye"! > > - Shadow-Lover > **************************************************************************** > ******** > *I looked back and forth throught the window of 15th century Spain, through > hues of* *Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, and was drown into a fascinating > world: history,* *religion, cross-cultural ferlilization...For some medieval > minds the mirror "was * *the door through which the sould frees itself by > passing"...for others the pursuit* *of personal refinement was likened to > "polishing the mirror of the soul." From the* *more familiar turf of the > west coast of Ireland, through the troubadours of * *France, crossing > over the Pyrenees and then to the west through Galicia, down * *through > Andalusia and past Gibraltar to Moracco...The Crusades, the pilgramage to * > *Santiago, the Knights Templar, the Sufis from Egypt, One Thousand and One > Nights * *in Arabia, the Celtic sacred imagery of trees, the Gnostic > Gospels...who was God? * *And what is religion, what spirituality? What was > revealed and what was * *concealed...and what was the mask and > what the mirror? -Loreena McKinnitt * > **************************************************************************** > ******** > > Now that goes just a bit far doesnt it? If you're going to put an E-Mail sig down, please keep it small. I got swamped with 102 messages this weekend and read and replied to them in a record time of 1 hour, but putting large sigs is very time consuming because I have to look beyond the sig to see if there's more writing, such as a PS. So once again, please don't put large sigs on your posts. -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:16:43 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: order of writing Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > >On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Tina Newman R wrote: > > > >> I would actually prpose reading them in chronlogical order myself..... > >> that way you get all the history as you read along...... the writing will > >> be a bit erratic, but I'd rather have the history... > > > >that's true, but you already know what (for instance Vanyel's > >transformation of the vrondi) is going to be important later, in the > >"realtime" stories. i was thinking that it might be easier to get into > >either Arrows or possibly Vanyel's but that the main thrust of Misty's > >current work in Valdemar follows the line from Arrows to Storms, and the > >rest seems annexed to these (not that they aren't wonderful in themselves, > >but you see my point...). > > > >jacob > > > > Just to continue this discussion, I personally, read the LHM trilogy first > and it was that series that really DREW me into Lackey's world...the other > books are great as well, but for some reason, it seems to be LHM that grabs > people. > > Aerin > Yours Truly > > Jerry Anbinder > > To take this further, I think that the reason that a lot of people get drawn in by LHM (just as I did) is that a lot of us can relate to Vanyel in one way or another, some of us more than others. Misty makes him seem like a real person, and someone I'd like to get to know if they were real (no, I'm not saying I'm Shay'a'chern, just that Vanyel's character seems to be close to the ideal person). He's the kind of person who stands up for what he believes in, which I hope everyone here does. -Mannaheim PS:If anyone could help me on a name for my Herald persona, I'd be happy. The first name is Declan. Thanx! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:19:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: multiple personalities Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > >On Nov 30, Stacey wrote: > > > >> "So it had gone down through centuries, taking new bodies and taking > >> on other names. Krawlven. Renthorn. Geslaken. Leareth. Zendak." > >> And not to mention Ma'ar, and Mornelithe. > > > >One thing has always puzzled me about this. Why did > >Falconsbane not recognize the "white clad riders" (Elspeth and Skif)? > >He was clueless about both the Heralds and Valdemar (when Ancar > >mentioned it), which doesn't make sense to me, after the lifetime he > >spent as Leareth. Ideas? > > > >Tammy > > > >"It's time to ask yourself what you believe" > > > > > > It's not that far fetched; most of us don't remember past lives, much less > particulars of that existance... > > Aein > Yours Truly > > Jerry Anbinder > > Now, about those names mentioned above. Where did you get those? I've only heard of Ma'ar, Leareth, and Mornelith Falconsbane. I have NEVER heard of those others. Could you explain where they're from? -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:29:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > From: Gyrfalcon > > > >On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Rosario Holsen-Baker wrote: > > > >> > >--Gyrfalcon > >> > > > >> Soon-to-be-wing-clipped-if-he-keeps-that-Men-In-White-stuff-up > >> Gyrfalcon, you mean. >:) > >> > > > >You have to catch me first. Not to mention you should be looking over > >you're shoulder. Remember the Men in White are out there, you shouldn't > >treat them so lightly... If you think I'm kidding ask Mat what happened > >the last time they caught him. > > What do you mean? The Men in White are our friends. They just spread > the word of the god of literature, Piers Anthony, and his disciple, > David Eddings. Run! Run > quickl.... Go buy all Xanth books you can find. Trust me, you'll like > them. > > :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) > > Mat > accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu > http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ > VAX is the source of all evil. > > Lord and Lady! Is there something wrong with you Mat? Are you trying to corrupt us and make our minds child-like once again? How cruel to those unsuspecting newbies on this list. I had thought better of those of you who have experienced Piers Anthony, and that you would have learned the error of your ways. As it is, you must not stray from the path of true literature. You must always follow the writings of Misty, and never be tempted by lesser authors. -Mannaheim "Intelligence does not guarentee greatness, nor vice versa" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:33:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Sarah Stock wrote: > > > I agree with Robert's response to ??whose?? (too much use of the delete button > > going on here) mail - it was really nicely put anyway. > > I don't think this is ever made clear - I can't remember any mention of a > > student dying in any of the books - altho' in the wars there's bound to have > > been some that died. But, ...., IMHO, I think that it should (ring that is) > > - after all, there's still going to be a bereft companion left behind, or worse, > > dead from grief, and this person had the latent skills/personality to become a > > herald, even if they were still training. > > > > Debbi > > Wait a minute. Thought surfacing from the depths. Wasn't Christa > (Dirk's student) still a student? IIRC she was on her internship so > she wouldn't have been a full herald then. And I'm pretty sure the > bell rang for her, although I'm hazy on the actual quote. This is > the student that got burnt to death trying to save children by > fetching them from inside a burning building. > > Sarah > > Correct. Technically, she was already a herald, since they recieve their whites before going out on internship. The internship is just so they get used to riding circuit, and so they have experience handling problems with someone there to help them. When they go out on internship, they are a full herald. And yes, the bell was rung for Christa(?), but Talia didn't know her, so she wasn't as upset as when it rang the other times thaty year (for Jadus, Ylsa, and what was the last? I know there was one more because it said "The death bell tolled four times that year." Maybe someone could remember.) -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:36:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 1996 ML - what I would like to see Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Julie Vaux wrote: > What I would like to see in 1996 (in the books) > > A map of Velgarth > > Firesong life bond with a certain Kaledain kestrachern who > obviously loves him - well its obvious to the readers! > > Tremayne lifebond with someone totally unexpected - Solaris? > > More hints about Iftel or answers please! > > Magissa - Julie Vaux > What I would like to see? Well, maybe some history of Iftel and Karse, and more history of the plains. But I dont think Firesong will lifebond to Silverfox. It seems to me it will be Andesha since he is already showing signs of liking him (i know it's not the same thing, but it could lead to it.) -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:39:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Fiona Graham wrote: > > > Hi all... > > Mannaheim was asking about the acronym for IIHM - I believe it means "In my Humble Opinion" > BTW means "by the way".. > I'm sure there are tons of others, but due to work stress, I am unable to think will full capacity at the moment :-( > > bye for now > Fiona > ------------------------------------- > Name: Fiona Graham > Bermuda > E-mail: fmg-+AT+-renre.bm > Date: 1/6/96 > Time: 1:59:20 AM > ------------------------------------- > Some of you will probably be angry at me for putting this in here. It's not very relevant to the current thread, but I need to know: How do I start a new thread? Sometimes I want to discuss things that arent being discussed. If someone could tell me this, please do, as I'm not sure how, and I would hate to mess up things. Thanx. -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 14:53:42 -0500 (EST) From: Ashke To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re- myriad subjects Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > > And on antoher note, reincarnation theory generally tends to agree that we > reincarnate with the same group of people who we have 'unfinished business' > with...since we have no idea if Vanyel is a 'first lifer' I suppose it's > possible that we are talking about the prince of darkness and the prince of > light reincarnating over and over again to fight the ultimate battle... > > Okay, so it's a little far fetched, but hey, it's a thought... > > Aerin > Yours Truly > > Jerry Anbinder > > Want one even more far fetched????? What if van was originally Urtho???? Or maybe Firesong was ...would be ironic if it took him that long to finally beat Maar. Just something to stir up the stewpot Ashke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:23:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: multiple personalities Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > >One thing has always puzzled me about this. Why did > > >Falconsbane not recognize the "white clad riders" (Elspeth and Skif)? > > >He was clueless about both the Heralds and Valdemar (when Ancar > > >mentioned it), which doesn't make sense to me, after the lifetime he > > >spent as Leareth. Ideas? > > I've spent time in the past on a thread much similiar to this. IYRC (If > You Remember Correctly) Leareth never set foot in Valdemar, he only saw > it as another piece of land to conqueror. He had killed the Herald-Mages > one by one only because they were a threat to his power. If he had known > about the Heralds he probably would not have offered Vanyel the option of > joining him... (He did do this right, my memory's spotty.) > > > It's not that far fetched; most of us don't remember past lives, much less > > particulars of that existance... > > Speak for yourself. > > --Gyrfalcon > As I recall it, yes. Leareth did invite Vanyel to join him. He said he could bring back Tylendel, among other things, and generally lied a lot. Vanyel refused and used Final Strike to kill him. -Mannaheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 14:57:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ashke To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > From: Ashke > >Shadow-Lover writes: > >> > >> *Shadow-Lover points out the pronunciation guide...* > >> > >> And if you don't understand/know how to use the pronunciation guide at the > >> beginning of the appendix I'm offering a new product called "Hooked on > >> Shin'a'in Phonics" It's a wonderful six tape course for only $500 that will > >> teach you how to...... > >> > >> ;) > >> > >> - Shadow-Lover > >> > >Appendix??????? In which booK???? I knew i missed something1 > > > > -Ashke > Look at the end of Oathbreakers. After the story, there's a Shin'a'in > glossary/pronunciation guide, then there's the lyrics to some of the > songs on the Oathbound and Oathbreakers tapes. > > Mat > accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu > http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ > VAX is the source of all evil. > Thank you thankyou im forever grateful! ashke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 15:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: Ashke To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Sarah Stock wrote: > > > Wait a minute. Thought surfacing from the depths. Wasn't Christa > (Dirk's student) still a student? IIRC she was on her internship so > she wouldn't have been a full herald then. And I'm pretty sure the > bell rang for her, although I'm hazy on the actual quote. This is > the student that got burnt to death trying to save children by > fetching them from inside a burning building. > > Sarah > > Maybe the manner of her death showed that she was worthy to be a true herald...afterall she was graduated...just on her 1st assignment...her internship...she had whites like talia did when she want tout with kris ashke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 15:06:31 -0500 (EST) From: Ashke To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, STOKES J wrote: > Now where the heck can I find a Firebird catalog? I'm wondering since I > havent seen anything at ALL from them. Id appreciate any info on this. > Thanx. > -Mannaheim Look in side the cover of your books . the phone number given there ifor Misty merchandise is the FIrebird number...they will mail you a catalog *thumbs through her latest iss ue of the catalog* Ashke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 10:55:07 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW Message-ID: <9601082355.AA25638-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Cindy wrote: > Yoicks! and Away! And Tally ho! :) > Cindy (who can't be Hypatia because somebody on alt.books.m-lackey already > snagged the name. Lessee, Hortensia, nope... Harriet, not likely...) Awww.. well, we wouldn't want you stoned to death anyway.. Ob Misty: When you're dealing with users and start telling yourself "Ground boy, ground & centre." (Weak, I know, but hey, everyone else already got the best ones!) :) Kerry. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 10:47:45 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: acronyms Message-ID: <9601082347.AA25611-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Kim wrote: Ye gods.. some in there that I didn't know and I thought I'd seen 'em all. Another few (fortunately not required on this list too much): RTFM -- the last province of frustrated sysadmins - 'read the f***ing manual' (often misquoted by the politically correct or more polite..) :) and it's derivative, RTFFAQ -- where FAQ stands for Frequently Asked/Answered (depending on the list) Questions.. > Kim Hatton > klhatton-+AT+-ozemail.com.au Ye gods.. Another aussie.. just when I'd lulled the list into a false sense of security.. :) Cheers, Kerry.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:27:37 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: order of writing Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > >On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Tina Newman R wrote: > > > >> I would actually prpose reading them in chronlogical order myself..... > >> that way you get all the history as you read along...... the writing will > >> be a bit erratic, but I'd rather have the history... > > > >that's true, but you already know what (for instance Vanyel's > >transformation of the vrondi) is going to be important later, in the > >"realtime" stories. i was thinking that it might be easier to get into > >either Arrows or possibly Vanyel's but that the main thrust of Misty's > >current work in Valdemar follows the line from Arrows to Storms, and the > >rest seems annexed to these (not that they aren't wonderful in themselves, > >but you see my point...). > > > >jacob > > > > Just to continue this discussion, I personally, read the LHM trilogy first > and it was that series that really DREW me into Lackey's world...the other > books are great as well, but for some reason, it seems to be LHM that grabs > people. > > Aerin > Yours Truly > > Jerry Anbinder > > Well, I read them in a truly strange way. I read BTS, then Arrows Flight, then Oathbound, then the rest of the Winds series, then Arrows of the Queen, Arrows Fall, and caught up from there. I got most of the history, it didn't seem to make that much of a difference. She writes them well enough that you can pretty much read them in whatever order. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:22:24 -0500 (EST) From: EGLESTON-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kero and Daren's Whites Message-ID: <960108192224.542-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG> Can someone help me find the page ref for Vanyel telling the young heir to be careful of thinking that the Whites make the Herald? Can't find it, and I suspect it is pertinent to the question of why Kero and Daren were shoved into Whites willy-nilly. Thanks. Yoicks! and Away! Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tylendel Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > From: Becky Anne Christensen > > > >On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > > > >> From: EDooley489-+AT+-aol.com > >> > > >> >Actually Vanyel stated he could sense all the Heralds. He said that before > >> >the web only the Herald-mages could sense other heralds or ones they had used > >> >magic with. Vanyel already had the tool to create the web and link it to the > >> >other Heralds. He just wasn't sure what exactly he needed to do to connect > >> >the web to the others. He used the Companions as a stable base for the whole > >> >thing. > >> >Eric > >> > >> IIRC, the reason that Vanyel could sense all the Heralds was because > >> he was a Guardian of the Web. > >> > > Actually, he ws never a Guardian, Savil was. He made the > >Web so they didn'y need Guardians. The reason he could sense other people > >was because he had shared magic with them. > > > > (:*BECKY*:) > > Yes, he took over for Lancir when Shavri couldn't do it. He changed the > Web while he was a Guardian (you know, I just thought: does Misty just like > the word "Guardian" or something? There's the Web people, the type of > spirit tha Companions are, and there's Di Tregarde). > > Mat > Okay, but the reason that he could sense other heralds was because he shared magic with them, not because he was a Guardian (right?) I think. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: In the beginning... Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, CHONNI wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > > > > > Actually, I kinda like all the Men in White stuff, I'm not > > > exactly sure what it is though, but I have a couple of very vague ideas.. > > > It seems interesting....but f course they're not after me. > > > > > > (:*BECKY*:) > > > > Not yet they're not. > > > > --Gyrfalcon > > Well, she might be a potential target...she doesn't know what to avoid, > when to duck, what kinds of tacky clothing to avoid wearing! So I shall > share a tale of whoa to help innocent newbies from losing their heads... > > Long ago (1-3 months) in the sightless void called Email, a group of like > minded folks came together, following the storyteller known as Misty, in > a halfway world between Earth and Velgrath. While looking to share their > own stories and lives, another teller of tales was mentioned. And this > teller was the cause of much twitching, eyerolling and groans amoungst > those who had left behind his youthful and punnish stories in a quest for > Great Characterization, Good Prose and Mature Humour. And this teller > was called by the name of Piers Anthony, and many swore to avoid future > banality and coarse humor, which meant forgoing all Xanth novels. This > saddened some poor misguided souls who secretly followed the Way of > Xanth, and informed on those who no longer revered the Pun, and who did > not keep the Adult Conspiracy. And so began the galactic thumb war > betwixt the minions of Xanth (the fearsome men in white) and the motley > group of free spirits who swore to defend Good Jokes, and the Fringes of > Sanity. > > Seriously though, I myself recall Xanth fondly (though I'm glad to leave > it to recalling), and am safe from the men in white for 2 reasons; > Phereze my Companion and a dusty copy of THE VISUAL GUIDE TO XANTH. > And if you want to read the original men-in-white jokes, ask me, > or Mat or Gryfalcon; I know I have them somewhere! > > ********************* Herald Chonni Brightwolf************************* > Well, that helps. I've never read Piers Anthony, but I have heard of him. As for puns, well, what can I say. I myself do not make any, but occasionally they are funny...kinda...sorta...in a way. And I do not wear tacky clothing, so hopefully I will be safe. I'd love to hear all the men-in-white jokes anybody has, then I can find out more, and (hopefully) learn to defend myself. I don't have a Companion, but I do have a cat! (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:52:36 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Staci Schoenfeld wrote: > At 03:07 AM 1/8/96 GMT, Kerry Mealing wrote: > > > >(Exercise for the reader: 5 exclamation marks.. the sure sign of a ... ?) > > Well, I used to think that it was a sign of a teenager.... At least, when I > was one, I sure used a whole lot of them!!!!! Now, I am curious. What is > it a sure sign of? > > Wind to Thy Wings, > Staci > > Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!! (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:54:37 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 1996 ML - what I would like to see Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Julie Vaux wrote: > What I would like to see in 1996 (in the books) > A map of Velgarth > > Firesong life bond with a certain Kaledain kestrachern who > obviously loves him - well its obvious to the readers! > Isn't there something between An'desha and Firesong? I don't think it is a lifebond, but it sure is something. There are maps in the beginnings of some of the books, but mostly of the reigons around Valdemar. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:07:00 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: multiple personalities Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > > > > >On Nov 30, Stacey wrote: > > > > > >> "So it had gone down through centuries, taking new bodies and taking > > >> on other names. Krawlven. Renthorn. Geslaken. Leareth. Zendak." > > >> And not to mention Ma'ar, and Mornelithe. > > > > > >One thing has always puzzled me about this. Why did > > >Falconsbane not recognize the "white clad riders" (Elspeth and Skif)? > > >He was clueless about both the Heralds and Valdemar (when Ancar > > >mentioned it), which doesn't make sense to me, after the lifetime he > > >spent as Leareth. Ideas? > > > > > >Tammy > > > > > >"It's time to ask yourself what you believe" > > > > > > > > > > It's not that far fetched; most of us don't remember past lives, much less > > particulars of that existance... > > > > Aein > > Yours Truly > > > > Jerry Anbinder > > > > > Now, about those names mentioned above. Where did you get those? I've > only heard of Ma'ar, Leareth, and Mornelith Falconsbane. I have NEVER > heard of those others. Could you explain where they're from? > -Mannaheim > I think An'desha is telling the Avatars (I think) about Mornelithe. Remember that for a long period of time An'desha was sharing Mornelithes body, and was delving into his memories. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 297 *********************************