MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 298 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by Becky Anne Christensen 2) Re: re- myriad subjects by Becky Anne Christensen 3) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by Gyrfalcon 4) New Threads: A Tutorial (was Re: the bells...) by Gyrfalcon 5) Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) by "Kellie" 6) Re: acronyms (threadshifting to aussies ;) by Alex Neilson 7) Re: acronyms by Wendy Hill 8) in praise of LHM by "James T. Yardley" <73201.745-+AT+-compuserve.com> 9) Re: Tylendel by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 10) Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 11) Re: Kero and Daren's Whites by Becky Anne Christensen 12) Re: multiple personalities by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 13) Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) by Becky Anne Christensen 14) BTMIW! by "Katherine M. Brielmaier" 15) Re: Tylendel by Becky Anne Christensen 16) Names, threads, snow, Men In White by Rosario Holsen-Baker 17) Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) by "Kellie" 18) Don't be afraid, they shouldn't hurt us too badly by "Kellie" 19) piers anthony by gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) 20) Re: Don't be afraid, they shouldn't hurt us too badly by Staci Schoenfeld 21) Re: piers anthony by Staci Schoenfeld 22) Re: multiple personalities by be248-+AT+-scn.org (SCN User) 23) xanth by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 24) Re: YKYBRTMMLW: by be248-+AT+-scn.org (SCN User) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Sarah Stock wrote: > > > > > > I agree with Robert's response to ??whose?? (too much use of the delete button > > > going on here) mail - it was really nicely put anyway. > > > I don't think this is ever made clear - I can't remember any mention of a > > > student dying in any of the books - altho' in the wars there's bound to have > > > been some that died. But, ...., IMHO, I think that it should (ring that is) > > > - after all, there's still going to be a bereft companion left behind, or worse, > > > dead from grief, and this person had the latent skills/personality to become a > > > herald, even if they were still training. > > > > > > Debbi > > > > Wait a minute. Thought surfacing from the depths. Wasn't Christa > > (Dirk's student) still a student? IIRC she was on her internship so > > she wouldn't have been a full herald then. And I'm pretty sure the > > bell rang for her, although I'm hazy on the actual quote. This is > > the student that got burnt to death trying to save children by > > fetching them from inside a burning building. > > > > Sarah > > > > > Correct. Technically, she was already a herald, since they recieve their > whites before going out on internship. The internship is just so they > get used to riding circuit, and so they have experience handling problems > with someone there to help them. When they go out on internship, they > are a full herald. And yes, the bell was rung for Christa(?), but Talia > didn't know her, so she wasn't as upset as when it rang the other times > thaty year (for Jadus, Ylsa, and what was the last? I know there was one > more because it said "The death bell tolled four times that year." Maybe > someone could remember.) > -Mannaheim > Wasn't it Beltren? I remember Keren(?) sitting by Talia while she was recovering, then the bell tolled, she said something like Gods, why did it have to be Beltren or something like that. Then Skif came in to relieve her of Talia watch and explained to Talia what the Death Bell was. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:15:41 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re- myriad subjects Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Ashke wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jerald (Jerry) Anbinder wrote: > > > > > > > > And on antoher note, reincarnation theory generally tends to agree that we > > reincarnate with the same group of people who we have 'unfinished business' > > with...since we have no idea if Vanyel is a 'first lifer' I suppose it's > > possible that we are talking about the prince of darkness and the prince of > > light reincarnating over and over again to fight the ultimate battle... > > > > Okay, so it's a little far fetched, but hey, it's a thought... > > > > Aerin > > Yours Truly > > > > Jerry Anbinder > > > > > Want one even more far fetched????? What if van was originally Urtho???? > Or maybe Firesong was ...would be ironic if it took him that long to > finally beat Maar. > > Just something to stir up the stewpot > > Ashke > > > But we know where Van is, he's in sorrows. His spirit couldn't be in Firesong because his spirit talked to Firesong. The reason Ma'ar could come back was because he put a spell or something on all his abcestors, that way when any of his ancestors used the fire lighting spell(I think) he could "steal" their bodies. That was what happened with An'desha wasn't it? I don't recall Urtho having any children, and it doesn't say that he put that spell on his ancestors. I'm certain that he didn't know about it, because then he would have found a way to beat Ma'ar for all time. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > Is there something WRONG with Piers Anthony? Personally, I feel sick at > the mention of Xanth after reading the first six books and almost frying > my brain on bad writing, but right now I'm reading Incarnations of > Immortality, and it isn't that bad (notice, I'm not saying it's good > either). I enjoyed the series, and finished the first 5 in five days, > but I can't even begin to compare it to Misty. Anyway, if someone could > tell me why Piers Anthony is so bad, I'd like to know. And no, I'm not a > supporter of him, so I don't deserve any Flames. > -Mannaheim It's not that Anthony is bad.... (Look, I'm not saying that he's good either) But when the MIW are mentioned it's always with the Xanthish reference. No slur (well a little one) on Piers Anthony, but one on the Xanth novels. --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:01:58 -0500 (EST) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: New Threads: A Tutorial (was Re: the bells...) Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > Some of you will probably be angry at me for putting this in here. It's > not very relevant to the current thread, but I need to know: How do I > start a new thread? Sometimes I want to discuss things that arent being > discussed. If someone could tell me this, please do, as I'm not sure > how, and I would hate to mess up things. Thanx. > -Mannaheim Just send a new message (depending on your mailer...) to the list, mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk put in the subject of your thread on the subject line and you're good to go. --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:25:09 CST From: "Kellie" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) Message-ID: <244012A523A-+AT+-athena.valpo.edu> > > > Mat T wrote: > > From: Gyrfalcon > > >You have to catch me first. Not to mention you should be looking over > > >you're shoulder. Remember the Men in White are out there, you shouldn't > > >treat them so lightly... If you think I'm kidding ask Mat what happened > > >the last time they caught him. > > > > What do you mean? The Men in White are our friends. They just spread > > the word of the god of literature, Piers Anthony, and his disciple, > > David Eddings. Run! Run > > quickl.... Go buy all Xanth books you can find. Trust me, you'll like > > them. > > Oi! Oi!! David Eddings is a renegade, not a disciple! He has characterization > in his books! I've read all his books & I liked his characters very much.... > all three of them.. > > (Exercise for the reader: 5 exclamation marks.. the sure sign of a ... ?) > > Kerry. > > A good shaman will miss the potholes on the road between the worlds. > > My guess would be a hmmmmmmmm, oh yeah an English Major? well hello all, Kellie here and well i can't tell you how great it was to get 367 messages waiting for me here at school. :)) > > > > Kellie Myers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:40:13 +1100 (EST) From: Alex Neilson To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: al-+AT+-atcafe.com.au (Alex Neilson) Subject: Re: acronyms (threadshifting to aussies ;) Message-ID: <199601090140.MAA16774-+AT+-jiji.atcafe.com.au> > Kim wrote: > > Kim Hatton > > klhatton-+AT+-ozemail.com.au > > Ye gods.. Another aussie.. just when I'd lulled the list into a false sense > of security.. :) > > Cheers, > Kerry.. *grin* No sense of security for this list ;) This makes three of us ;) Zhai'helleva, Alex (al-+AT+-atcafe.com.au) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 96 14:05:00 PST From: Wendy Hill To: mercedes-lackey Subject: Re: acronyms Message-ID: <30F2E6D8-+AT+-smtp.nla.gov.au> Kerry wrote that: >Kim wrote: > > >> Kim Hatton >> klhatton-+AT+-ozemail.com.au > >Ye gods.. Another aussie.. just when I'd lulled the list into a false sense >of security.. :) > >Cheers, >Kerry.. Another acronym which appears on the Feistfans list a lot : WUTNB - Wait Until The Next Book This comes up when people keep asking REF specific questions. Wendy (yes another Australian) ********************************************************************** Wendy Hill National Library of Australia (06) 262 1214 - phone (06) 273 1180 - fax whill-+AT+-nla.gov.au - email ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 08 Jan 96 22:12:56 EST From: "James T. Yardley" <73201.745-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: Mercedes Lackey Mailing Subject: in praise of LHM Message-ID: <960109031256_73201.745_JHE174-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> someone was saying that LHM is the series that really draws them in... i agree. i love all the characters in that series so much - i just want to find Van and give him a big hug :> (well - we won't get into what else... ;>) and i still cry at certain parts: where Tylendel and Van first get together and have sex, where Lendel dies, the part in MPromise where Van's making an image of Lendel, and of course when Van and Stefen finally get together. and other parts which i can't think of right now. i literally have parts of MPawn memorized. anyway, i just wanted to tell you all how much i love this series. partly it could be because i'm such a hopeless romantic, as evidenced by the aforementioned omnipresent tears... and one more thing. excuse me for whining in your ears, but did *any*body read the request i made for people to change the titles of threads when the subject of the thread changes? i can't keep track of where all the threads are going. - Meg "waiting until the proper time has elapsed for her to read LHM again" Yardley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 14:12:44 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tylendel Message-ID: <9601090312.AA26975-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Becky wrote: > Okay, but the reason that he could sense other heralds was > because he shared magic with them, not because he was a Guardian (right?) > I think. Vanyel and the top class Herald-Mages (eg Savil) had a line they could follow to other heralds with whom they'd shared magic. This isn't the same as sensing other heralds exactly.. After the establishment of the Web, all heralds knew when another herald died, but Vanyel (alone) had that extra strong link such that it felt as if it was happening to him (Savil & co didn't have it). Now, IMHO, it's due to two things - one Vanyel's very very close links to the Web spell & two Vanyel's marginal empathy.. (You remember, Talia had similar experiences, but less drastic). Cheers, Kerry. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 14:15:45 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) Message-ID: <9601090315.AA26986-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Somehow I missed (or haven't received yet) Staci's reply.. Becky wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Staci Schoenfeld wrote: > > > At 03:07 AM 1/8/96 GMT, Kerry Mealing wrote: > > > > > > >(Exercise for the reader: 5 exclamation marks.. the sure sign of a ... ?) > > > > Well, I used to think that it was a sign of a teenager.... At least, when I > > was one, I sure used a whole lot of them!!!!! Now, I am curious. What is > > it a sure sign of? > > > > Wind to Thy Wings, > > Staci Ooooh.. I'm crushed.. (or I would be if I weren't irrepressible ). Actually it's kinda a compliment - the Anne of Green Gables "never let us get too old, no, too old & foolish for fairytales and sillyness." type think. Anyway, it's a Terry Pratchett reference.. _Reaper Man_ "... the sure sign of a deranged mind.." > Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!! > (:*BECKY*:) I used to, not that long ago.. Kerry. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kero and Daren's Whites Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996 EGLESTON-+AT+-GROVER.BPL.ORG wrote: > Can someone help me find the page ref for Vanyel telling the young heir to > be careful of thinking that the Whites make the Herald? Can't find it, and > I suspect it is pertinent to the question of why Kero and Daren were shoved > into Whites willy-nilly. > > Thanks. > > Yoicks! and Away! > > Cindy > Magic's Price, Chapter 13, page 218. It's right after Van came back from his visit home. My book is a paperback, it could be different in your's though. It's at the end of Chapter 13. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 14:24:12 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: multiple personalities Message-ID: <9601090324.AA27079-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Becky wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > > > >On Nov 30, Stacey wrote: > > > > "So it had gone down through centuries, taking new bodies and taking > > > > on other names. Krawlven. Renthorn. Geslaken. Leareth. Zendak." > > > > And not to mention Ma'ar, and Mornelithe. > > Now, about those names mentioned above. Where did you get those? I've > > only heard of Ma'ar, Leareth, and Mornelith Falconsbane. I have NEVER > > heard of those others. Could you explain where they're from? > > -Mannaheim > > > I think An'desha is telling the Avatars (I think) about > Mornelithe. Remember that for a long period of time An'desha was sharing > Mornelithes body, and was delving into his memories. There's also a reference in SR & SW to Ma'ar incarnating as "S... the Mad" (a Shin'a'nain) of the Cat-clan, who killed half the young warriors of the cat tribe before he was stopped. (Hmm, I bet that was a bit of a shock for Ma'ar - I'd wager he didn't incarnate as a Shin'a'nain in the middle of a clan again). Andesha may mention them, but I remember Krawlven, Renthorn, Geslaken, Leareth & Zendack coming from Mornelithe's musings in Winds of ???. Kerry. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: the bells, the bells (esmeralda) Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > > > Is there something WRONG with Piers Anthony? Personally, I feel sick at > > the mention of Xanth after reading the first six books and almost frying > > my brain on bad writing, but right now I'm reading Incarnations of > > Immortality, and it isn't that bad (notice, I'm not saying it's good > > either). I enjoyed the series, and finished the first 5 in five days, > > but I can't even begin to compare it to Misty. Anyway, if someone could > > tell me why Piers Anthony is so bad, I'd like to know. And no, I'm not a > > supporter of him, so I don't deserve any Flames. > > -Mannaheim > > It's not that Anthony is bad.... (Look, I'm not saying that he's good > either) But when the MIW are mentioned it's always with the Xanthish > reference. No slur (well a little one) on Piers Anthony, but one on the > Xanth novels. > > --Gyrfalcon > Okay, I'm going to do something REALLY daring. Can someone suggest the best out of all these Xanth novels? I'm getting curious about them. So, if someone can tell me the best one, I'll get it and then be able to figure out what is so bad. He can't really be THAT bad, can he? I seriously doubt that he could be better than Misty though. I seriously doubt anyone can be better than Misty:) (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 96 23:03:44 CST From: "Katherine M. Brielmaier" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: BTMIW! Message-ID: <92249.brie0030-+AT+-gold.tc.umn.edu> On Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:05:05 GMT, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: >Is there something WRONG with Piers Anthony? >Anyway, if someone could >tell me why Piers Anthony is so bad, I'd like to know. And no, I'm not a >supporter of him, so I don't deserve any Flames. > -Mannaheim No, there's not a think WRONG with Piers Anthony, but...well, the best advice I ever heard about reading his multitude of series was something like this: "Buy them one at a time until you get sick of them." This was written by a reviewer somewhere on the Net (can't remember his name for the life of me), and he later added that he was punishing himself (for being so stupid as to buy the entire Xanth series at once) by reading them all. I followed this excellent advice and only blew money on four of his novels before I became completely disgusted with the whole thing and vowed never to read another sugary pun-fest by him again. Hope that gives you some idea.... 's e do bheatha Kaatje ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 21:05:52 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tylendel Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Kerry Mealing wrote: > > > > Becky wrote: > > Okay, but the reason that he could sense other heralds was > > because he shared magic with them, not because he was a Guardian (right?) > > I think. > > Vanyel and the top class Herald-Mages (eg Savil) had a line they could follow > to other heralds with whom they'd shared magic. This isn't the same as > sensing other heralds exactly.. > > After the establishment of the Web, all heralds knew when another herald > died, but Vanyel (alone) had that extra strong link such that it felt as > if it was happening to him (Savil & co didn't have it). > > Now, IMHO, it's due to two things - one Vanyel's very very close links > to the Web spell & two Vanyel's marginal empathy.. (You remember, Talia > had similar experiences, but less drastic). > > Cheers, > Kerry. > > > It might also have to do with the fact that his gifts were very strong. Weren't they the strongest we've ever seen among Heralds? That could also be part of it. (:*BECKY*:) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:48:38 -0500 (EST) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Names, threads, snow, Men In White Message-ID: Need's apprentice's name is Vena. I have no idea what Need's name is, but I think it *is* Lashan (can't remember who said that :), and it's in Winds of Fate *and* Change. Ma'ar's names thing is on page 337 of Winds of Change (have books with me! :) You start a thread by saying something so funny, interesting, contraversial, whatever, that everyone else picks up on it! I've sent in a dozen comments with only a few turning into threads, but when they do... on my other list, a friend of mine started a huge PC thread over the debate of: should a character be called Cancer Man or Cigarette-Smoking Man? He said he called him Cancer Man, and the list exploded. :) YKYBRTMMLW: A blizzard dumps 2 ft of snow on DC and every time you go out you think of Companions and chirras dragging cars and trucks out... :) The Men In White should be returning to wherever they came from, tail between their legs and licking shallow cuts. Don't worry Gryfalcon, I didn't hurt them too much. You better watch your tail feathers, though. My feline friends Paul and Irena weren't too happy with the sudded intrusion on our territory. >:) |--------------------------------<>------------------------------| | I would there were no age between sixteen and three-and-twenty | | or that youth would sleep out the rest, | | for there is nothing in the between but | | getting wenches with child, wronging the ancientry, stealing, fighting | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:44:40 CST From: "Kellie" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: BWTMIW! (was Re: the bells...) Message-ID: <247546A64B0-+AT+-athena.valpo.edu> > > > Somehow I missed (or haven't received yet) Staci's reply.. > > Becky wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Staci Schoenfeld wrote: > > > > > At 03:07 AM 1/8/96 GMT, Kerry Mealing wrote: > > > > > > > > > >(Exercise for the reader: 5 exclamation marks.. the sure sign of a ... ?) > > > > > > Well, I used to think that it was a sign of a teenager.... At least, when I > > > was one, I sure used a whole lot of them!!!!! Now, I am curious. What is > > > it a sure sign of? > > > > > > Wind to Thy Wings, > > > Staci > > Ooooh.. I'm crushed.. (or I would be if I weren't irrepressible ). > Actually it's kinda a compliment - the Anne of Green Gables "never let us > get too old, no, too old & foolish for fairytales and sillyness." type think. > > Anyway, it's a Terry Pratchett reference.. _Reaper Man_ "... the sure sign > of a deranged mind.." > > > Hey, I resemble that remark!!!!! > > (:*BECKY*:) > > I used to, not that long ago.. > > Kerry. > Terry pratchett, cool, anyone read Teh Light Fantastic, cool book!!!!!!!!!!! hee hee my contribuion to the ! craze or whatever Kellie > Kellie Myers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:48:04 CST From: "Kellie" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Don't be afraid, they shouldn't hurt us too badly Message-ID: <247632E79C6-+AT+-athena.valpo.edu> > > On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > > > > > Is there something WRONG with Piers Anthony? Personally, I feel sick at > > > the mention of Xanth after reading the first six books and almost frying > > > my brain on bad writing, but right now I'm reading Incarnations of > > > Immortality, and it isn't that bad (notice, I'm not saying it's good > > > either). I enjoyed the series, and finished the first 5 in five days, > > > but I can't even begin to compare it to Misty. Anyway, if someone could > > > tell me why Piers Anthony is so bad, I'd like to know. And no, I'm not a > > > supporter of him, so I don't deserve any Flames. > > > -Mannaheim > > > > It's not that Anthony is bad.... (Look, I'm not saying that he's good > > either) But when the MIW are mentioned it's always with the Xanthish > > reference. No slur (well a little one) on Piers Anthony, but one on the > > Xanth novels. > > > > --Gyrfalcon > > > Okay, I'm going to do something REALLY daring. Can someone > suggest the best out of all these Xanth novels? tomatos to be thrown in my general direction> I'm getting curious about > them. So, if someone can tell me the best one, I'll get it and then be > able to figure out what is so bad. He can't really be THAT bad, can he? I > seriously doubt that he could be better than Misty though. I seriously > doubt anyone can be better than Misty:) > > (:*BECKY*:) Well if you reall want to read some good Piers, i would recommend the Aprentice Adept series or the Mode series, but i forget who those are by, hmmm , but definitely the aprentice Adept series... oh fior Xanth i recommend go to the library and start at the beginning\ Kellie (cringing in wait of torture> Kellie Myers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:12:55 -0800 From: gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: piers anthony Message-ID: >No, there's not a think WRONG with Piers Anthony, but...well, the best >advice I ever heard about reading his multitude of series was >something like this: "Buy them one at a time until you get sick of them." >This was written by a reviewer somewhere on the Net (can't remember his >name for the life of me), and he later added that he was punishing >himself (for being so stupid as to buy the entire Xanth series at once) by >reading them all. I followed this excellent advice and only blew money on >four of his novels before I became completely disgusted with the whole >thing and vowed never to read another sugary pun-fest by him again. > >Kaatje on the other hand, his incarnations of imortality series is wonderful- and hardly a pun in sight. i've never read more than one Xanth book (i just don't like them) but these are really worth reading! -colette gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:09:17 -0800 From: Staci Schoenfeld To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Don't be afraid, they shouldn't hurt us too badly Message-ID: <199601090709.XAA18533-+AT+-stealth.romoidoy.com> Kellie wrote: >Well if you reall want to read some good Piers, i would recommend the >Aprentice Adept series or the Mode series, but i forget who those >are by, hmmm , but definitely the aprentice Adept series... oh fior >Xanth i recommend go to the library and start at the beginning\ >Kellie (cringing in wait of torture> Okay, I'll jump in on this thread -- if I were to recommend a Piers Anthony book or series it would have to be the Incarnations of Immortality (at least the first five or so). Then the Apprentice Adept series and maybe the first and second Xanth just so you know what they are about. Xanth isn't TOO detrimental to your health if you only read a little of it. Of course, I say that and I haven't read them since Jr. High and l don't even really remember them too much -- except for all the dreadful puns. Night all -- > > > Wind to Thy Wings, Staci ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:11:29 -0800 From: Staci Schoenfeld To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: piers anthony Message-ID: <199601090711.XAA18647-+AT+-stealth.romoidoy.com> At 06:58 AM 1/9/96 GMT, collette wrote: >on the other hand, his incarnations of imortality series is wonderful- and >hardly a pun in sight. i've never read more than one Xanth book (i just >don't like them) but these are really worth reading! another incarnations of immortality fan -- YEAH! Wind to Thy Wings, Staci ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:37:50 -0800 From: be248-+AT+-scn.org (SCN User) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: multiple personalities Message-ID: <199601090137.RAA14593-+AT+-scn.org> >> >On Nov 30, Stacey wrote: >> > >> >> "So it had gone down through centuries, taking new bodies and taking >> >> on other names. Krawlven. Renthorn. Geslaken. Leareth. Zendak." >> >> And not to mention Ma'ar, and Mornelithe. >> > >Now, about those names mentioned above. Where did you get those? I've >only heard of Ma'ar, Leareth, and Mornelith Falconsbane. I have NEVER >heard of those others. Could you explain where they're from? > -Mannaheim The list of names is on the top of page 319 in Winds of Change, during the part describing how An'desha was taken over. Just my thoughts... Zhai'helleva, Herald Briana "Finder of Useless Trivia" -- Herald Briana Kestyl wc814-+AT+-freenet.victoria be248-+AT+-scn.org HeraldBria-+AT+-aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 96 09:45:38 +0100 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: xanth Message-ID: <9601090845.AA05139-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> >On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > >> On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: >> >> > Is there something WRONG with Piers Anthony? Personally, I feel sick at >> > the mention of Xanth after reading the first six books and almost frying >> > my brain on bad writing, but right now I'm reading Incarnations of >> > Immortality, and it isn't that bad (notice, I'm not saying it's good >> > either). I enjoyed the series, and finished the first 5 in five days, >> > but I can't even begin to compare it to Misty. Anyway, if someone could >> > tell me why Piers Anthony is so bad, I'd like to know. And no, I'm not a >> > supporter of him, so I don't deserve any Flames. >> > -Mannaheim >> >> It's not that Anthony is bad.... (Look, I'm not saying that he's good >> either) But when the MIW are mentioned it's always with the Xanthish >> reference. No slur (well a little one) on Piers Anthony, but one on the >> Xanth novels. >> >> --Gyrfalcon >> > Okay, I'm going to do something REALLY daring. Can someone >suggest the best out of all these Xanth novels? tomatos to be thrown in my general direction> I'm getting curious about >them. So, if someone can tell me the best one, I'll get it and then be >able to figure out what is so bad. He can't really be THAT bad, can he? I >seriously doubt that he could be better than Misty though. I seriously >doubt anyone can be better than Misty:) > > (:*BECKY*:) It's some time back now since I experienced these - the early ones weren't so bad, but once he gets an idea he not only flogs it to death, but dances on the corpse. They are nothing like ML's books - don't expect characters that draw you in, plots that develop, strong desires to start again as soon as you finish the last page - (I did that with the first Arrows book when it came out, I then read in strict order of publishing - when they appeared in paperback I had 'em!) - the Xanth books are a mildly amusing read, and I'd support the "start at the beginning and stop when you've had enough" approach. slan leat Debbi **************************************************************************** * FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC. * * * * The motto of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch (Terry Pratchett, Guards! * * Guards!) * **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:41:25 -0800 From: be248-+AT+-scn.org (SCN User) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: Message-ID: <199601090141.RAA15949-+AT+-scn.org> > >On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, David J. De Riemacker wrote: > >> OK, here goes. >> >> You know you've been reading too much Misty when: >> >> -The weatherman says it's going to be misty tonight, you go outside and >> look for her. >> >> -Every action preceded by the thought, "What would Misty think if She saw >> me doing this." >> >> -One black dog, one white cat; both named Skandranon >> >> -You keep trying to Mindspeak people, thinking that if Misty says it, >> it must be true. >> >> -Look sidelong at all Miatas, thinking they might be Elvensteeds. >> >> -"If nothing but raw meat is good enough for gryphons, it's good enough >> for me and my family." >> >> -Never, ever clean up the house. "Our little friends, the hertasi, >> will do it for us." >> >> -Establish a Vale in your back yard, fill it with tropical plants, then >> wonder why they're all dead by mid-December. >> >> -There's a huge platform in your back yard, and there's always a dead >> antelope on it. When queried, you always say, "That there's mah gryphon >> feeder." >> >> Well that's all for now. I don't think you'll put up with anymore than this, >> any way. I gotta go. It's about time I freshen up my gryphon feeder anyway. >> Zhai'helleva, >> Whiteraven >> >> "I think so, Brain, but I don't think gryphons wear rubber underpants." >> Pinky k'Leshya >> >> (Sorry about that, l couldn't resist.) );-)> >> >> >I know that some of the text is off the screen. It's not my fault! I >only wanted to comment on "Elvensteeds?". Now, I may have a bad memory, >but I dont think I EVER read anything about elves in the Valdemar series >(although the only other book I read from her besides the Valdemar series >is The Elvenbane, but that didnt mention them either). So, could you >explain? Thanx > -Mannaheim > The Elvensteeds come in in her "Urban Fantasy" series. Most notably the series about Eric, Beth, and Kory (Knight of Ghosts & Shadows, Summoned to Tourney), and her Tannim series (Born to Run, Chrome Circle) as well as some stand-alones, notably Wheels of Fire and When the Bough Breaks. ((I can't remember any of the others right now. Feel free to chime in, anyone.)) Just my thoughts... Zhai'helleva, Herald Briana "Finder of Useless Trivia" -- Herald Briana Kestyl wc814-+AT+-freenet.victoria be248-+AT+-scn.org HeraldBria-+AT+-aol.com ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 298 *********************************