MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 316 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Vanyel and the Vales by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) 2) Re: FW: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) 3) New Misty Stuff by Mat Timmerman 4) Re: grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! by JR9332-+AT+-cub.uca.edu 5) Re: (Fwd) Bardic Voices vs Valdemar by Todd Kungas 6) Re: YKYBRTMMLW (wow, this really is getting off-thread ;) by Alex Neilson 7) Re: Tremane & Solaris by "David Ramsden" 8) Re: Snow by "David Ramsden" 9) Re: re: Eastern Empire by "David Ramsden" 10) Re: New Misty Stuff by "David Ramsden" 11) Re: Vanyel and the Vales by "David Ramsden" 12) Re: NEW LIST [was] grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! by "David Ramsden" 13) Re: (Fwd) Bardic Voices vs Valdemar by puppies and dragons 14) Re: NEW LIST [was] grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) 15) Re: YKYBRTMMLW: by wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) 16) Re: Swords and Sorcery (only one sorceress :) by wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) 17) Re: grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! by Jean 18) Re: threadshifting to aussies ;) by Kim Hatton 19) Re: coconuts, Larry, killer rabbits by "David J. De Riemacker" <103275.3267-+AT+-compuserve.com> 20) Snow by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 21) Deed of Paksenarrion (other book recommendations) by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 22) Grrrr - I just couldn't let this alone by RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com 23) Re: Snow by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 22:49:15 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Vanyel and the Vales Message-ID: <199601130549.WAA28615-+AT+-usr5.primenet.com> At 05:24 AM 1/13/96 GMT, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > > >On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, David Ramsden wrote: > >> > Thought I'd just bring up something that's been bugging me for a >> > while now. When Savil took Vanyel to the k'Treva vale, how come >> > Vanyel only met with Starwind and Moondance? I didn't notice him >> > meeting with anyone else of the clan. This struck me as quite odd. >> > Later on when Savil goes back to the vale for help, there are gate >> > guardians and everything. So, the true question is: Why didn't >> > Vanyel see anyone else while he was there? Any comments? >> > -Declan >> > -aka Mannaheim >> > > Well, we know he knew other people, because didn't he and some >lady have a baby for Moondance and Starwind? So he must have met otehr >people. Maybe they just weren't important enough to mention, or something >else, I don't know. > > (:*BECKY*:) > > I think it's like Lois Bujold says "The author reserves the right to have a better idea". And, (now don't flame me) with Van so heavily into his own self-pity, maybe he saw other people, but he didn't NOTICE them. Does anybody get what I'm saying, or have I gone off my rocker? (Companions are not allowed to answer that question, especially my own!) Mareesa Raennsyr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 23:08:18 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: FW: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: Message-ID: <199601130608.XAA00664-+AT+-usr6.primenet.com> At 05:57 AM 1/13/96 GMT, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > > >On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Rosario Holsen-Baker wrote: > >> > Lots of people wrote: >> > > >> > Hey, no fair! That was supposed to be a MAGICAL attack! >> > > >> > And where are the sparrows? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --Gyfalcon >> > > >> > >> > > >> African or European? >> > > >> >> > > >> (:*BECKY*:) >> > > >> A-HA...and other exclamations of great glee and jubilation..I sense a fellow Monty >> > > >> Python fan in the ranks.....glad to know I'm not alone (: >> > > >> Fiona >> > > >But then again, if she's lighter than the duck, does that mean she's a >> > > >witch? >> > > > >> > > >(Monty Python fan waving from the ranks) (wave wave) >> > > > -Mannaheim >> > > > >> > > Doesn't matter--anybody comes near me, and I'll bite their kneecaps! >> > > (wave wave) >> > > Kaatje >> > > >> > *NICHT*! Don't mess with me, or I'll say *Nicht* ha-ha-ha! >> > >> > (:*BECKY*:) >> It it it it it it it it it it it it it.........it! >> >> |--------------------------------<>------------------------------| > > AGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! Don't SAY that word. I can't stand to hear >that word! For saying _that_ word, I demand a......a.....shrubbery >(dramatic minor chord)! > > (:*BECKY*:) > > Did someone say shrubbery? But if I give it to you, you'll just want another one! Would'nt you like some cocnuts? They were flown in by swallows you know. Sir Robin will bring them. Mareesa Raennsyr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 02:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: New Misty Stuff Message-ID: <01HZY21OFJ4Y91WLPP-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> Hey there, I was just reading the alt.books.m-lackey FAQ and I found this: >The following tapes are rumored to be in the works. >Further info would be cool! > > Born To Run > Winds Of Fate > The Lark And The Wren > >4. BOOKS AND PROJECTS RUMORED TO BE IN THE WORKS > >Diana Tregarde Investigations -- these supposedly got put on the back burner > so that ML could work on other projects. > Arcanum 101 > Triangle Park > >Vows & Honor (Tarma, Kethry, Warrl, and Need) > Oathblinded > Has anyone heard of these? Last I heard about the Di books was that TOR says that they have a contract for Misty to do them when she's not so busy. How about the others? What do you think Oathblinded would be about? The establishment of the schools? The deaths of T&K&W? And when would it take place; before or after BTS? Mat -- Mat Timmerman "They want to stop the ones who want accmjt-+AT+-hofstra.edu prosthetic foreheads on their heads. But mtimmerman1-+AT+-hofstra.edu everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu their real heads." -- They Might Be Giants http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 02:58:40 CST From: JR9332-+AT+-cub.uca.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! Message-ID: <4F2E6BD22B8-+AT+-cub.uca.edu> > Date sent: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 06:22:35 GMT > Send reply to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > From: Julie Vaux > To: jr9332-+AT+-cub.uca.edu > Subject: Re: grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! > When one gets six digests in one day and discovers the content of > some of them is 50% fluff ... reading listserv digests comes a chore instead > of a pleasure ... and if you think this sounds grumpy ... over the next > two weeks I have to sell off 95% of my household items plus 75% of my > book collection and arrange to move house and cancel all my listservs > and contemplate being off line for the month or so its take me to arrange > an extra phone line and reset up my gear at home and run around sydney in > one of the hottest months of the year job-hunting ... please please please > scroll up and think carefully about what I wrote or next time I will ROAR > instead of SNARL ...whimper please ...we all love talking about ML and an > possible related thread is fine but really !!! > > J.Vaux - Majissa is searching for her scroll on fire spells ... >Lighten up! All the posts have subjects and if you don't want to read the ones off topic (they ARE labeled as off topic) then simply delete them! I am on this list to talk about Misty and have a little fun. There is more to the world than JUST Misty and I fell that you cannot truely discuss her without also talking about other things. All things are inter-related. Yossarian. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01:54:06 -0700 From: Todd Kungas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: (Fwd) Bardic Voices vs Valdemar Message-ID: <9601130854.AA27867-+AT+-wtpprod1.wtp.net> At 23:34 01/12/96 GMT, you wrote: > > >Does anyone out there in Lackey land prefer the Bardic Voices books to >the Velgrath ones? > >Also what are the Bard's Tale and Wing Commander novels by Misty like? > > > > >David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com > I've read her Bard's tale books, It took me awile to figure out it wasn't part of the Velgrath series. They are good storys, and I hope ML continues them. But I haven't read the Wing Commander novels yet ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Equine: an484352-+AT+-anon.penet.fi USA O thou, my milk-white pony, whose coat is as the moon-beams of this autumn night, carry me like a bird through the air.... [by Murasaki Shikabu (974-1031)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 21:58:44 +1100 (EST) From: Alex Neilson To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW (wow, this really is getting off-thread ;) Message-ID: <199601131058.VAA00743-+AT+-jiji.atcafe.com.au> This is getting really silly. . . I like it! ;) > > > > Hmm. . . I wonder if this carboard box will protect me. . . > > > > *sticks head out* > > > > Piers Anthony! > > > > *ducks back inside the box* > > > (The sound of about a ton of Homeing Coconuts > > > smashing into Alex's cardboard bomb shelter.) > > > Take that! > > Ow! > > *sounds of building come from inside the box* > > *muffled by the box, you hear "Centre, ground. . . right, right. . ."* > > *the cardboard is Healed, all the wounds closing together. . .* > > Ahahaha! Now I've reinforced it! Can't get me now, you crazy bird! > > > A small, but dapper, killer penguin enters and looks at the the box. 'No-one > gets away with calling birds crazy!'. He pulls a wand from his pocket, > points it at the box, and says 'I wonder what will happen this time?'. > The wand pulses, with no obvious effect. The penguin looks at the box. > He looks down at himself. 'At least it hasn't backfired this time - I hope!' > He frowns suspiciously at the wand, which looks smugly back in the way > wands - or at least *this* wand - has made a fine art of. On impulse, he > looks up - is that a tiny speck, up there in the sky, getting bigger? > He decides to back away quickly, just in case, and watches from a safe > distance. A few minutes later, a large roast roc lands on the cardboard > box with an explosion of charred feathers, leaving a large crater. The > penguin retreats behind a nearby bush to see if any survivors will emerge > from the crater. 'funny' he thinks 'the last time it did that it I could > have sworn it plucked the roc first'.... > *A hand lifts up above the edge of the crater, scabbling for a grip* *another hand joins them, and you can see the hands are enveloped in a faint green healing glow* *a scarred head pokes itself over the lip of the crater* Ummmm. . . That hurt. . . Zhai'helleva, Alex (al-+AT+-atcafe.com.au) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:37:45 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tremane & Solaris Message-ID: <199601131211.MAA02774-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> > David Ramsden: > >Do you think Misty has been reading Jordan and wanted a Aes Sedai > >type who can't lie? > > But there's still possibilities for Tremere. Remember "An Aes > Sedai never lies, but the truth an Aes Sedai tells you isn't always > the truth you think it is." > > Just my thoughts... > > Zhai'helleva, > Herald Briana > "Finder of Useless Trivia" > > -- > Herald Briana Kestyl > wc814-+AT+-freenet.victoria > be248-+AT+-scn.org > HeraldBria-+AT+-aol.com > That is precisely what I am talking about. Is tremaine gonna learn this trick too? David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is hope. Hope that by working hard enough and reaching far enough others like us can someday rid the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred that claimed this one. Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at all. - from X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 12:40:48 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Snow Message-ID: <199601131244.MAA03063-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, David Ramsden wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Jan 1996 05:19:32 GMT, > > > Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > > > > > > (after I started a snowball fight) > > > > > > > > Send some snow balls this way! I could use them! > > > > Snowballs don't > > > >scare me! I love snow! > > > > > > > > (:*BECK > > > > *:) > > > > > > Oh yeah?! > > > > > > Well take this!! > > snowballs> > > > > > > *wham wham biff bang thud smack wham thud wham wham wham!* > > > > > > > > tongue> > > > > > > Nyah Nyah Nyah!! > > > > > > Kaatje > > > "and the man who can do that, can plan my castle-onslaught any > > > day." > > > > > I think I'll build an igloo and take cover :) > > > > > > David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com > > Oh yeah? Grab a blow torch and melt the igloo! Hee-hee! Better than > snow balls! > > (:*BECKY*:) > Perhaps I'll make it out of asbestos David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is hope. Hope that by working hard enough and reaching far enough others like us can someday rid the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred that claimed this one. Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at all. - from X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 12:40:49 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re: Eastern Empire Message-ID: <199601131244.MAA03065-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, David Ramsden wrote: > > > > > > Now that you mention it, somewhere it *does* say that Ma'ar had > > > some permanent Gates, but I *definitely* remember it being > > > stated that permanent Gates were Urtho's own private innovation > > > (one that he didn't even teach to his own mages.. or couldn't > > > perhaps since they were only Adepts and both Ma'ar and Urtho > > > were Sorceror-Adepts / Adepts++). > > > > > I thought sorceror-adepts were those that could create new life > > forms, much like healer adepts were mages that could heal. A > > different form of adept , rarer than healer adepts, but not > > necassarily more powerful. > > > > > > David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com > > ---------------------------------------- > > Ma'ar created the maakar didn't he? But he never mastered the level > of perfection (or so they like to think) that Urtho got with the > Gryphons. That leads me to believe that Urtho must have been the > better sorceror-adept. Maybe he's not neccesarily the best at combat > magics though. It did say somewhere that he was better suited to > making things than to being a warlord. That could be why Ma'ar was > defeating them. Also some Heralds created gates (Savil, Elspeth, > Van, etc..) and they were just Adepts. > > (:*BECKY*:) > I didn't mean to imply that only sorceror- adepts could create gates. I do think it said somewhere that Urtho was the only one who could create permanant gates. I think you are right on about how Ma'ars and Urtho's skills differ tho. David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is hope. Hope that by working hard enough and reaching far enough others like us can someday rid the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred that claimed this one. Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at all. - from X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 12:40:49 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: New Misty Stuff Message-ID: <199601131244.MAA03067-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> > Has anyone heard of these? Last I heard about the Di books was that > TOR says that they have a contract for Misty to do them when she's > not so busy. How about the others? What do you think Oathblinded > would be about? The establishment of the schools? The deaths of > T&K&W? And when would it take place; before or after BTS? > > Mat How about the establishment of the clan back n the planes. Or the troubles they had with the noble that was after Kerowyn's mother for her money? David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is hope. Hope that by working hard enough and reaching far enough others like us can someday rid the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred that claimed this one. Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at all. - from X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 12:40:48 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: Becky Anne Christensen , Subject: Re: Vanyel and the Vales Message-ID: <199601131244.MAA03061-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, David Ramsden wrote: > > > > Thought I'd just bring up something that's been bugging me for a > > > while now. When Savil took Vanyel to the k'Treva vale, how come > > > Vanyel only met with Starwind and Moondance? I didn't notice > > > him meeting with anyone else of the clan. This struck me as > > > quite odd. Later on when Savil goes back to the vale for help, > > > there are gate guardians and everything. So, the true question > > > is: Why didn't Vanyel see anyone else while he was there? Any > > > comments? > > > -Declan > > > -aka Mannaheim > > > > Well, we know he knew other people, because didn't he and some > lady have a baby for Moondance and Starwind? So he must have met > otehr people. Maybe they just weren't important enough to mention, > or something else, I don't know. > > (:*BECKY*:) > I wrote that ?! I replied. Anyway Van 'played stud service' with the lady (can't remember her name) and had a set of twins one for the lady and Brightstar for Moondance and Starwinnd. I think this happened 'off stage' so to speak between books. David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is hope. Hope that by working hard enough and reaching far enough others like us can someday rid the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred that claimed this one. Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at all. - from X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 12:40:49 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: NEW LIST [was] grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! Message-ID: <199601131244.MAA03071-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> We could always start a new list up on snowball fights :) David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is hope. Hope that by working hard enough and reaching far enough others like us can someday rid the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred that claimed this one. Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at all. - from X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 09:02:48 -0700 (MST) From: puppies and dragons To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: (Fwd) Bardic Voices vs Valdemar Message-ID: <199601131602.JAA27492-+AT+-usr2.primenet.com> At 11:45 AM 1/13/96 GMT, Todd Kungas wrote: >At 23:34 01/12/96 GMT, you wrote: >> >> >>Does anyone out there in Lackey land prefer the Bardic Voices books to >>the Velgrath ones? >> >>Also what are the Bard's Tale and Wing Commander novels by Misty like? >> >> >> >> >>David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com >> > I've read her Bard's tale books, It took me awile to figure out it >wasn't part of the Velgrath series. They are good storys, and I hope ML >continues them. > But I haven't read the Wing Commander novels yet >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Equine: an484352-+AT+-anon.penet.fi USA >O thou, my milk-white pony, whose coat is as the moon-beams of this autumn >night, carry me like a bird through the air.... >[by Murasaki Shikabu (974-1031)] >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I read a couple of the Wing Commander books (not sure how many of them there are) and they kind of left me cold. I think one of the reasons that I like Misty is her great worlds, and maybe she doesn't work as well with established ones. Same thing with Bard's Tale books. I Like the ones with Rune and everyone, just in case I missed something, and those are what we're talking about. Mareesa Raennsyr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 09:09:34 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: NEW LIST [was] grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! Message-ID: <199601131609.JAA11010-+AT+-usr6.primenet.com> At 03:18 PM 1/13/96 GMT, David Ramsden wrote: >We could always start a new list up on snowball fights :) > > >David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com >---------------------------------------- >Bishop: I can promise that in this other world, there is > hope. Hope that by working hard enough and > reaching far enough others like us can someday rid > the world of the fear and predjudice and hatred > that claimed this one. >Illyana: Then I'd rather have - hope than nothing at > all. > > - from X-men Omega > > Aye, but what about the swallows? (Seriously though, to whoever posted this in the first place, you're fighting a losing battle. Just ignore us crazies, and live in a totally snow/Python/Jordan free world. My how boring...) Mareesa Raennsyr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 08:21:48 -0800 From: wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: YKYBRTMMLW: Message-ID: <199601131621.IAA28047-+AT+-ix13.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > >Shadow-Lover wrote: >> >> *Shadow-Lover grounds and centers, preparing a levin bolt for the >> first >> >> person who responds "Piers Anthony"* >> >> >> > *Jaguar grounds and centers, and puts up her best "sticky-mirror" >> >> >shields.* >> > >> > PIERS ANTHONY!!!!! >> > PIERS ANTHONY!!!!! >> > PIERS ANTHONY!!!!! > >> *Shadow-Lover grounds, centers and tosses a big, oily levin bolt >> through Jaguar's shields giving her a crispy tail...* Chemstry 101: >> Lipids will pass through sticky things ;) >> > And bounces off the second level of my shields, the mirror part. > >:) > *Jaguar looks around from hunting down Gyrfalcon with an annoyed >glare, prepares an telepathic-disruptor blade, and slams it between >Shadow-Lover's eyes, disrupting his mental circuits (even more ;)* > > Don't mess with a combat telepath. >:) > *Shadow-Lover senses the rising of magical energy coming from Jaguar and fades from this plane of existance as the spell culminates... Back in his own plane (seeing as how he is already dead) he sends a mental equivalent of a glove-slap to Jaguar* :Ok telepath, if you're so good can you handle battling a mortal on that plane, and the dead in the astral? *wink*: *Shadow-Lover sends Jaguar a mental picture of the Gryphon that got caught in the land between gates, then a matching one of a severly mentally fried, snow-white jaguar.* *Shadow-Lover then drops his physical formation, and begins to draw the energy he will need for the battle at hand* :come and get me if you can: - Shadow-Lover *ZTHOK ZTHOK ZTHOK ZTHOK* (The sound of mental-coconuts bombarding Jaguar's mind as she staves off the solid ones....) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 08:37:35 -0800 From: wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Swords and Sorcery (only one sorceress :) Message-ID: <199601131637.IAA11171-+AT+-ix2.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > >On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > >> --Gyrfalcon >> "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy... *Shadow-Lover, while still drawing energy for the battle with Jaguar, imparts knoledge on Gyrfalcon's absent mind...* :It's the name of a really bad country-western song: - Shadow-Lover Who knows all and hates C-W music... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 96 11:53:19 EST From: Jean To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: grrr recent WAY OFF topic postings!!! Message-ID: <960113.115814.EST.JWSCHM00-+AT+-ukcc.uky.edu> You know, folks, J.Vaux has a point. If you get this list in digest form you _can't_ just delete after reading the subject lines. You have to accept and read through everything (at least skimming). I "belong" to two groups interested in Ms Lackey's work -- this one and alt.books.mercedes_lackey (I think that's how it's written out). I've always looked at this list as the "serious" one and a.b.ml as the "fluffy" one. There is all kinds of off topic zaniness and fun going on over there. Of course, some people probably can't access the other list and I don't want to be a total wet blanket, but if you can you might want to run over to a.b.ml for the fun stuff. Just a thought, Mistfox ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 04:23:55 +1100 (EST) From: Kim Hatton To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: threadshifting to aussies ;) Message-ID: <199601131723.EAA17596-+AT+-oznet02.ozemail.com.au> >On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Kim Hatton wrote [On aussies and barbeques, dead or >otherwise :) ]: >> With all the Aussies come out of the woodwork, should I throw another few >> shrimp on the barbie - that would no doubt appeal to Gryfalcon - do we have >> any shrimps who volunteer? >Huh??.... Oh... >Hmmmmm.... Wonder if certain people can drive a truck from Florida to >Australia? > >As for shrimps.... Was I just insulted? > >BWTMIN! > >--Gyrfalcon Do you really think I'd be dumb enough to insult you, given your recent treatment of Jaguar? Levin bolts hurt and we don't get coconuts here. How could I possibly defend myself? Kim Hatton ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 96 14:16:28 EST From: "David J. De Riemacker" <103275.3267-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: "listproc-+AT+-herald.co.uk" Subject: Re: coconuts, Larry, killer rabbits Message-ID: <960113191628_103275.3267_IHH37-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> From: David J. De Riemacker, 103275,3267 TO: Becky Anne Christensen, INTERNET:beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com DATE: 1/11/96 10:49 PM >Maybe if you found a white coconut, you could kinda pretend it was a >Companion, you would have to be utterly psycho though. lol,Lol,LOL Lahundra: : Whiteraven: : Gaa! Gryphon germs! To answer the persona question, Lahundra is my alternate persona, and she is a(gryphon) woman. It helps to have a back-up, just in case the main one gets killed off or needs help. Being a trondi'irn, it's also nice to have a gryphon about to practice on. I think you guys are being way too hard on Larry. I like his artwork. Without the actual pictures of the gryphons, all I'd have for reference are those horrible 'traditional' designs. And some of us are not so gifted with imagination (me for one). Anyway, I got a card from him (I think) with my latest Queen's Own, so I have to be nice to him(though that's not why I';m saying I like his stuff. I really do like his stuff). Even so, his pics could do without all those computer-added sparklies... Oh, look! A cute little bunny. Now I've got someone to keep me company. Hello? What's this? Why is there blood on it's teeth? AHHHHhhhhhh! And now for something completely different... Something worth reading...and a flying sheep named Herald PPS. If this should seem a little outdated, it's was supposed to be on the list a three days ago. The original posting must have been Eaten by gremlins, so I'm sending it again. It seem my postings get eaten a lot, since only about half make it to the board. What are MUD and MUSH? I have no idea myself. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:05:29 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Snow Message-ID: <960113130529.23c048d0-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> >> Snow? That's that white stuff that falls on other cities, that I've seen on >> T.V. right? It just hit the mid-80's again here. Ahh yes, Arizona winters. >> Gotta love em. >> >> StarWolf >> Kaatje replies: >You have a death-wish, don't you Starwolf? >*wham wham wham wham wham wham wham!* >(the sound of a thousand snowballs impacting on a certain list-member's >head) Too bad. They melted before they got anywhere near me. We're having a heat-wave! Hehehehehehehe. StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:05:58 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Deed of Paksenarrion (other book recommendations) Message-ID: <960113130558.23c048d0-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> >On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Sanna Koulu wrote: >> In comparison to Deed of Paksenarrion, By the Sword is wimpy, >> unrealistic and weak. The Paks trilogy is much closer to the LotR, as >> it says on the blurb (surprisingly it isn't too much wrong!). I >> heartily recommend it to everyone, it's so brilliant. Of the >> prequels, Liar's Oath is lousy, but Surrender None is readable. >> IMNSHO, of course. :) CHONNI replies: >Sigh, I hate to disagree (tell that to my mother), but I found that the >Paks trilogy was way too detailed; if I wanted to know that much about >fighting, I'll take a history course... I loved _By The Sword_ far more >cuz it cut out all of the, for me, boring campaign details and stuck with >the plot. It rather fondly reminded me of _Oathbreakers_. OTOH, I do >like Elizabeth Moon's writing, but I'll stick to _Hunting Party_ & co. I disagree very much. I loved _By the Sword_, it's either my favorite or second favorite Misty book (it varies). But the Paks trilogy was better. It's probably the best I've ever read in that type of book. I guess I empathized tremendously with Paks, more so even than with Kero. I didn't identify even slightly with Paks, though I did with Kero. Paks is an absolute hero. Kero is more of an everyday person. I recommend the Deed of Paksenarrion very very highly. StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:07:03 -0700 (MST) From: RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Grrrr - I just couldn't let this alone Message-ID: <960113130703.23c048d0-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com> Whiteraven writes: > Seanna asked for a definition of evil. This is the best I've heard yet. >Evil: Using others for one's own ends, without their consent or any >expectation on their part of reasonable compensation. > As you can see, this definition takes in all forms of evil; stealing, >murder, rape, slavery, Social Security, Student Loans, lying, extortion, >et. al. However, I don't think it would cover all evils. What if you give a >dollar to a bum, and he goes out and buys a bottle of booze, gets drunk, and >steps in front of a bus, and gets killed. You have definitely done evil, but >you have not used the bum, only enabled him to destroy himself. Whoa! Talk >about off-topic! Sorry about this, but I think I'll leave it as is, and let >y'all figure it out. > WTTW, again, > Whiteraven >Last thought(Promise!). When you gave the money to the bum, it was evis >because you did so without expectation of reward, and thus did evil to >yourself( I think this is called 'selflessness', but am unsure). The bum did >evil to himself, too, by putting himself in a state where he was not aware of >his surroundings. I'm usually not rude, well, seldom, but COME ON! Are you serious? If I give a buck to a bum, I have done good, perhaps, but definitely not evil. YOU, and you alone are responsible for your actions. Whether the bum steps in front of a bus, buys a bottle of rum, or gets a room for the night with whatever money you gave him/her, does not have any bearing on your giving the money. Your definition was good, up to a point. But it's not using others for one's own ends, it's HARMING others. Infringing on their space, their place, their person. You extended your dollar, or your twenty or whatever to the bum. He/she can ignore the offering. You have not intruded. Sorry, I'm also aware this is off-topic, but I couldn't let this stand as is. If every person took total responsibility for themselves, this society wouldn't be in the mess its in today. StarWolf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:41:01 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Snow Message-ID: <199601132041.NAA00526-+AT+-usr2.primenet.com> At 08:32 PM 1/13/96 GMT, RUNDLE-+AT+-wilma.bcasd.az.honeywell.com wrote: >>> Snow? That's that white stuff that falls on other cities, that I've seen on >>> T.V. right? It just hit the mid-80's again here. Ahh yes, Arizona winters. >>> Gotta love em. >>> >>> StarWolf >>> > >Kaatje replies: >>You have a death-wish, don't you Starwolf? > >>*wham wham wham wham wham wham wham!* >>(the sound of a thousand snowballs impacting on a certain list-member's >>head) > >Too bad. They melted before they got anywhere near me. We're having a heat-wave! > >Hehehehehehehe. > >StarWolf > > Hey, StarWolf! This is Herald Mareesa, and I live in Az too. Nice to know I'm not the only transplant from Valdemar. Which part are you from? P.S. If you don't want that info all over the Net, but are still interested in answering, my e-mail is mrtmh-+AT+-primnet.com ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 316 *********************************