MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 336 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) New Poll by Amy Mason 2) Re: re- ROCKY by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 3) Good reads, good heroines. by "Starhawk" 4) Re: Vrondi & truth spell by jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) 5) Re lovebond vs lifebond by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 6) Re: Adepts & nodes by Ashke 7) Re: re- ROCKY by Catherine Osborne 8) Re: LOVEBONDS VS. LIFEBONDS by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 9) Re: bleaching, apology & old(?) thread by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 10) Re: WHO WOULD YOU CAST? by bregalad 11) Re: Kethry in Rethwellan by "Patrick S. Waterlander" 12) Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines by Elisa Shapiro 13) Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines by Birgit Hanel 14) Re: Vrondi & truth spell by EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org 15) magic in Velgarth by EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org 16) Bedlam Bards by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) 17) Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines by CHONNI 18) Re: re- ROCKY by wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) 19) Re: Other Races by "Jacob D. Adamo" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> 20) Re: Vrondi and Truth Spell. by "Jacob D. Adamo" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> 21) A Horrible Hawkbrother Joke ( Pun Alert ) by "Jacob D. Adamo" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> 22) Re: lifebond vs. lovebond by Becky Anne Christensen 23) Dead? by Gyrfalcon 24) Re: bleaching, apology & old(?) thread by "Sanna Koulu" 25) Re: New Poll by "David Ramsden" 26) Re: Bedlam Bards by Gyrfalcon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:01:52 -0800 (PST) From: Amy Mason To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: New Poll Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, CHONNI wrote: > And a general poll: WHICH WOULD RATHER HAVE, A LIFEBOND, OR A LOVEBOND???? > > ****************Herald Chonni Brightwolf************************************** > Just because some of us can read and write and do a little math > does not mean we should conquer the universe. Are you kidding? I would very much rather be in a lovebond than a lifebond. It's mentioned more than several times in the Velgarth books that a lifebond can be harder on the two people because they can't _ever_ stand being apart from each other. Just MHO. Amy :) "Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:42:52 +0100 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re- ROCKY Message-ID: <9601261342.AA18777-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> >> > LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!!! >> :Jaguar, just because I'm trying to fry your brain on the astral doesn't >> mean I don't love you ;) I mean, what's a duel to the death between friends?: >> *huggle*huggle* ;) >> >> LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> - Shadow-Lover > > Why, Shadow-Lover! I never knew! I'm touched... > >|--------------------------------<>------------------------------| Oi, that's enuff of that sort of stuff, thank you very much. Huggling in public, I dunno, whatever next. We all know what comes after huggles - snuggles that's what, and where do snuggles get you, hm??? And where was Jaguar touched eh? (No, not in the head, Zzzypzzxtt'n'yprt, that's rude - I apologise for my soul blade, she's feeling her years today, makes her snippy ( geddit?!)) It's Friiiiiday - whoopity doopity doo 'n prettige weekend Esmeralda Evensbane p.s: I'm despatchng this at 13.40 GMT, on 26th Jan. My last 2 mails have taken for ever to appear, so this one is getting timed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:01:31 EST5EDT From: "Starhawk" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Good reads, good heroines. Message-ID: <221E8086C92-+AT+-apps.sbu.edu> Hi folks...yes, it's Lyn back from break. (actually, I've been back for almost three weeks now, but I couldn't quite follow the threads for a while there) On the subject of good reads with good heroines, I have a slightly alternative suggestion. Please, don't anyone out there fry me (I HAVE been watching Jaguar and Shadow-lover) but I would like to suggest David Edding's Belgariad, with its heroine, Polgara. Polgara is my favorite woman in all of Fantasy, including Misty. (Heresy, I know. :) She's got attitude, and she's a woman of steel. Granted, she isn't exactly the focus of the series, but she's a major player. David and Leigh Eddings's next book with be another prequel to the Belgariad, this time focusing on Pol's point of view. I can't wait! *bounce* *bounce* *bounce* Well, that's all from the land under water (aka Western New York) for now. Talk to y'all later. Lyn Lyn Belzer * P.O. Box 234 St. Bonaventure, NY 14778 * 716/379-3034 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Keep wondering, keep wandering, but try not to do both at once. You run into things. -Carla Hennes My getting upset is not the end of the world. I do it every so often, and I've survived every single time, as did any people or structures in the immediate vicinity. -Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:20:26 +0000 (GMT) From: jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Jerry Cullingford) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Vrondi & truth spell Message-ID: <9601261420.AA27667-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk> Declan writes: > I have just finished reading Arrows Flight, and I found an interesting > point. In Valdemar, the truth spell was discovered by a contemporary of > Vanyel, right before the Dark Servants came marching over the mountains. > So, I guess the heartstone was set up at this time, and the vrondi got > energy from that in return for performing the truth spell. Hmm. I think the heartstone energy is payment for for magewatching, and that truth spell payment is energy from the caster - which would neatly account for why different people have different abilities with the truth spell - those that can feed the vrondi more power get to use the second stage version. Otherwise, everyone should be able to do the same truth spell if they can contact the vrondi at all. (and if you read the bit about setting up the heartstone in Magics {Promise,Price} I don't think it mentions the truthspell at all there - but I could be wrong :-) - anyone read that bit recently?). -- _|_ / | Jerry Cullingford jc-+AT+-crosfield.co.uk (Work) \_|_ jc-+AT+-selune.demon.co.uk (Home) \__/ Hemel Hempstead, UK jerry-+AT+-shell.portal.com (alternate) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:53:51 +0100 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re lovebond vs lifebond Message-ID: <9601261453.AA18885-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> I wrote: >How can you be sure it wasn't a case of instant lust? It can mimic the early >inability to contemplate life without them, the total faith that this is IT .. >only problem is that lust burns out, then where's your life - lovebonded gone >or suffering from a severe case of the sulks, love-of-your-life a rat, bastard, >louse, son-of-a-pig etc etc etc. Do I sound jaded and cybical? I'm not, really! >I would say be veerryy wary of diagnosing lifebonds - maybe in Velgarth (is it >Velgarth or is that another book - I've been reading "other people's books" >just lately I'm afraid) the heralds/mind mages have ways of diagnosing these >things more certainly. Now answering your own mail probably isn't on, but in the cold light of the next day I have read this again and think I probably have missed a point somewheres along the line. But I think our beloved leaderene, ML, has, as she has every right to do, moved the goal posts on this one. If, as Stefan says somewhere you feel what the lifebonded feels, then why wasn't good ole empathic, spot-an- unhappy-person-at-50-yards, lifebonded-of-Dirk Talia aware of the total black misery Dirk was suffering, especially when Christa (??) died in the fire and he's wallowing in guilt - she totally misses this. And when she's struggling to cope with her post-rape trauma, he is blithely unaware that anything is amiss. >I have another thought as well - can lifebonds be one-sided? Love bonds >certainly can I would think - .. Now, (be patient, >I have to drag some names out from deep down now) Ylsa and Keren (??) were >lifebonded in AoQ (I think) then Ylsa gets killed and Talia hauls Sheryl along >to join in and hey presto, Keren and Sheryl lifebond, ( I might have Keren and >Sheryl mixed up here). So,...... was Sheryl suffering from a one-sided lifebond? >Or was it a 3-way lifebond that hadn't developed yet? I know this is touched on somewhere, someone hints that it might have become a 3-way bond, but the pair seemed unaware of the needs of the single. Maybe this deeper level bond - the sharing of emotions - comes as the bond develops. Just MHO of course! 'n prettige weekend, Esmeralda Evensbane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: Ashke To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Adepts & nodes Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jan 1996 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > > > JAGUAR he say: > > > unwanted text> > > > > 's funny, but I always see him as whossisname from Beauty and the Beast - the I think his name was Ron Perlman Ashke ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:33:55 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine Osborne To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re- ROCKY Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Rosario Holsen-Baker wrote: > Shadow-Lover wrote: > > > LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!!! > > :Jaguar, just because I'm trying to fry your brain on the astral doesn't > > mean I don't love you ;) I mean, what's a duel to the death between friends?: > > *huggle*huggle* ;) > > > > LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > - Shadow-Lover > > Why, Shadow-Lover! I never knew! I'm touched... ...in the head. I\/ Catherine Osborne "After great pain, I\/ Sundancer a formal feeling comes." I cosborne-+AT+-sidwell.edu --Emily Dickinson I http://www.sidwell.edu/~cosborne/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:49:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: LOVEBONDS VS. LIFEBONDS Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > I have another thought as well - can lifebonds be one-sided? Love bonds > certainly can I would think - but could you get one person deeply needing to > be with someone who doesn't really return the great need? Now, (be patient, > I have to drag some names out from deep down now) Ylsa and Keren (??) were > lifebonded in AoQ (I think) then Ylsa gets killed and Talia hauls Sheryl along > to join in and hey presto, Keren and Sheryl lifebond, ( I might have Keren and > Sheryl mixed up here). So,...... was Sheryl suffering from a one-sided lifebond? > Or was it a 3-way lifebond that hadn't developed yet? > > Whaddya reckon? > > Esmeralda Evensbane > > IIRC, it was a three way lifebond that hadn't developed yet. Sherril knew when she was almost fourteen, but she didn't think Keren and Ylsa would welcome her. Later, when Ylsa dies, Talia remembers the way Sherril acted around Keren and Ylsa, especially around Keren (ie, Sherril followed Keren into the river when they saved Talia, and the way Sherril was always looking at Keren). IMO, I don't think there can be a onesided lifebond. Declan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -Wishing he wasn't so tired of life- Declan patw-+AT+-clark.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:00:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: bleaching, apology & old(?) thread Message-ID: > On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, CHONNI wrote: > > > > > > And a general poll: WHICH WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE, A LIFEBOND, OR A > > LOVEBOND???? > > ****************Herald Chonni Brightwolf********************************* > > > If I ever had a choice, I would rather have a lovebond. But since I've never met anyone that really cared for me like that, I can't know what it feels like to be loved (I do know what it feels like to love someone else). I really can't give any reasons of WHY I think a lovebond would be better, I just do. It's this sort of nebulous feeling I get that a lifebond would be a very big strain if things didn't go right all the time. Declan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -Wishing he wasn't so tired of life- Declan patw-+AT+-clark.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:03:15 -0700 (MST) From: bregalad To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WHO WOULD YOU CAST? Message-ID: <199601261703.KAA15281-+AT+-xmission.xmission.com> > > > And as for the series Robin Hood..Didn't Jason Connery also play the part? > > > > Yes, he did. He was brought into the series at the end of the (I think) > > second year when the original Robin (Michael Praed) was killed... > > > So this guy is dead?? Nope, just the original Robin character. It's all perfectly explained in the series, though don't ask me how. :) Herne chooses a different Robin, this time played by Jason Connery. Breg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kethry in Rethwellan Message-ID: So, I just finished reading Arrows and Vows & Honor at the same time. And something keeps bugging me. When Kethry and Tarma go to Rethwellan in Oathbreakers, they stay at the palace, and wander around the Court in the evenings. Kethry is able to tell who the mages are, even though they aren't wearing robes. Later, when a Leshya'e Kal'enedral tries to manifest in the room, Kethry finds a counterspell and says she should break it. Tarma tells her not to because then they would REALLY know that Kethry is a mage. Now, my point is this. Kethry could tell who the mages were without even using magic. What was stopping the mages of Raschar from doing the same thing to her? And wouldn't Kethrys shields have shown up when those mages used magesight? Comments or ideas? Declan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -Wishing he wasn't so tired of life- Declan patw-+AT+-clark.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:32:26 -0500 (EST) From: Elisa Shapiro To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines Message-ID: Also the Deeds of Paksinarian by someone whose name I can't remember right now, and (though about half the hero's aren't necessarily women) anything by Lois McMaster Bujold. - Elisa http://mmm.mbhs.edu/~eshapiro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 18:29:53 +0100 (CET) From: Birgit Hanel To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines Message-ID: "Talking" about heroines: I love/d the books by Elizabeth A. Lynn (Arun-trilogy: Northern girl etc; Sardonyx Net et.al). Unfortunately that was back in the 80s; does anybody know what she is doing lately or if she has published any books recently? And another good one from several years ago: does anybody happen to know the title of the 3rd book of Jo Clayton's Sorcerer's Duel? Old(and maybe out of print), but highly recommended. Thanx! Birgit* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:03:26 -0500 (EST) From: EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Vrondi & truth spell Message-ID: <960126130327.2b61-+AT+-bpl.org> Declan said: "the truth spell was discovered by a contemporary of Vanyel" page reffie, _please_ (bats eyelashes pleadingly) I am trying to put together a list of places where magic is used/explained in Velgarth, and I'll take any shortcuts I can get. Yoicks! and Away! Cindy p.s. yes, that's why I've been so quiet. Ever try to read a book to look for references without getting lost in the story? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:59:15 -0500 (EST) From: EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: magic in Velgarth Message-ID: <960126135915.2b61-+AT+-bpl.org> On Jan 23, Seanna wrote: "Btw, didn't Kethry get bleached? Or was it just age? And did she ever use nodes?" I finally found the place where she describes how she uses magic (Oathbound, about page 25) and she makes no mention at all of lines or nodes. I'm still working through the rest of the stories to see if she uses them later. Re: Elspeth, and trained (untrained) Mage Gift. I refer you to MPawn, page 110 pb, Ch. 5, where it says: "Tylendel sensed the thunderheads building up in the west even though he couldn't see them from where he was sprawled on the coudh of the common room. That _was_ the Gift that made him a Herald-Mage trainee and not just a Herald-trainee; the ability to See (or otherwise Sense) and manipulate energy fields, both natural and supernatural.) I think that Elspeth has just been taught that she cannot affect what she sees from a young age. And every time she's tried, she's gotten the feeling that something was watching her (assuming that she tried at all, prior to being Chosen.) Actually, for most emergent mages in Valdemar, the guilty feeling of being watched was probably enough to keep them from playing with what they Saw. I'm still looking for the description of how nodes form. (I'm having to try to read chapters at random to keep myself from getting distracted.) :-) Yoicks! and Away! Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:40:15 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Bedlam Bards Message-ID: <199601262140.OAA03489-+AT+-usr5.primenet.com> Didn't I see something in the last Firebird catalouge about a third book in the series with Eric and Beth and Kori? Called "Beyond World's End" or something like that? Any word on when it's coming out, or if she's even still planning to write it? With the loss of the Di Tregarde books, I'm beggining to wonder about my favorite elf and his human friends. Also, was anyone but me left wondering why everybody bothered Eric at Juliard? 'Cause he was better than everybody else? Anybody got any theories? 'Reesa Raennsyr P.S. NYAH! to those of my friends who thought I would never contribute something of value to this list! (And also NEEK!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 14:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: CHONNI To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > It's interesting reading all the recommendations for other authors to try - > the same names keep cropping up, our collective bookshelves would contain a lot > of duplications. Funny how books can really annoy you innit? I read some serious > tosh last night (no I'm not going to confess all, suffice to say it was ...... > a historical romance - oh the shame of it). Anyhow, it started well, captured > my interest, and then had the most stupid, unlikely, ridiculous stuuuupid > ending. I know, I know, they're all fairly daft, but this was so implausible I > was cross with myself for wasting my time, cross with the author for wasting > what had been a good book in the first half, and I'm still grumbling to myself > about it today! > > Esmeralda Evensbane The worst, and conincidentally the last, historical romance (not including Georgette Heyer) i read had the male lead saying "Oh baby, yeah...oh baby..." and "That's it babe..." oh so historically accurate! but as for the fact that we all have similar book shelves, it isn't surprising... I'd just like to add a couple of names. Doris Egan (as opposed to the famous male Egan of SF) wrote a trilogy (?) that starts with _The Gate of Ivory_, and the main character is a woman, and the story line is excellent; she isn't a trooper like Paksenarrion, but she finds inside of herself the kind of strength to do what she has to. I like that in a heroine. She's also very real, for all the story is set in the future... *note* Doris Egan books are verrrry hard to find! I also like Julie (?) Smith's _Mission of Magic_ (i think), Pamela C.Dean when I can find her, Tanith Lee, Elizabeth Ann Scarbourough, and for good sci-fi I recommend Ian McDonald, David Brin (Glory Season is great!) and Bujold. ****************Herald Chonni Brightwolf************************************** Just because some of us can read and write and do a little math does not mean we should conquer the universe. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:38:28 -0800 From: wdjpej-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (William Jones ) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re- ROCKY Message-ID: <199601262338.PAA25664-+AT+-ix4.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > >Shadow-Lover wrote: >> > LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!!! >> :Jaguar, just because I'm trying to fry your brain on the astral doesn't >> mean I don't love you ;) I mean, what's a duel to the death between friends?: >> *huggle*huggle* ;) >> >> LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> - Shadow-Lover > > Why, Shadow-Lover! I never knew! I'm touched... > *Shadow-Lover smiles warmly at Jaguar, his ethereal sapphire blue eyes glistening in the darkness...* :If you're going to dance with death, you might as well enjoy it!: - Shadow-Lover ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 96 21:01:03 EST From: "Jacob D. Adamo" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Other Races Message-ID: <960127020102_102744.2515_GHT40-5-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Whiteraven wrote: >While I'm at it, why not some >stories about them in particular? Except for Warrl, the Companions and the >Gryphons, humans have had all the lead roles. It might be interesting to have >a story that is only about kyree, or dyheli, or hertasi, etc I'd personally like to hear more about Gervase, that hertasi mage that they mention briefly in Oathbreakers. He'd make a good character for a single book! Yea, he has that song from the Vows & Honor stuff, but I'd like to hear more, even though that does deal with humans also. What would be *really* cool, I think, would be a non-human Herald... IIRC that's not mentioned in the books. Zhai'ha'allav'a! *-------------------------------------------*-------------------------------* | ________ ________ __ __ ________ | "You never know when a little | | /_____ / / ____ / / /___/ / / ______/ | flimsy paper umbrella could | | __ / / / /___/ / / ____/ / _____/ | mean the difference between | | / /__/ / / ____ / / /\ \___ / /______ | life...and...death." | | /______/ /_/ /_/ /_/ \___//________/ | -Maegan- | | *-------------------------------* | also known as Rynath at: | "Dear gods, it's a conspiracy | | 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com | of fools!" | | | Vanyel, from _Magic's Price_ | *-------------------------------------------*-------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 96 21:01:05 EST From: "Jacob D. Adamo" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Vrondi and Truth Spell. Message-ID: <960127020105_102744.2515_GHT40-6-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Declan wrote: >I have just finished reading Arrows Flight, and I found an interesting >point. In Valdemar, the truth spell was discovered by a contemporary of >Vanyel, right before the Dark Servants came marching over the mountains. >So, I guess the heartstone was set up at this time, and the vrondi got >energy from that in return for performing the truth spell. IIRC, the vrondi do the truth spell and take part of the energy of the spell in exchange--not that they have to get an independant source of power. Vanyel only fed the vrondi the power from a node/heartstone thing in the Last Herald Mage books because he wanted them to stick around longer. Zhai'ha'allav'a! *-------------------------------------------*-------------------------------* | ________ ________ __ __ ________ | "You never know when a little | | /_____ / / ____ / / /___/ / / ______/ | flimsy paper umbrella could | | __ / / / /___/ / / ____/ / _____/ | mean the difference between | | / /__/ / / ____ / / /\ \___ / /______ | life...and...death." | | /______/ /_/ /_/ /_/ \___//________/ | -Maegan- | | *-------------------------------* | also known as Rynath at: | "Dear gods, it's a conspiracy | | 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com | of fools!" | | | Vanyel, from _Magic's Price_ | *-------------------------------------------*-------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 96 21:49:41 EST From: "Jacob D. Adamo" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: A Horrible Hawkbrother Joke ( Pun Alert ) Message-ID: <960127024941_102744.2515_GHT160-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Jaguar asked for Horrible Hawkbrother Jokes. This is a pun, but I think it counts.... A Hawkbrother once saved a merchant from a group of wolves. The merchant was very grateful, and insisted on the Hawkbrother taking a miniature jeweled ceremonial chair as payment. Now, the Hawkbrother didn't want it, but he didn't want to offend the merchant's feelings. So, what he did was he put the chair in his thatched ekele and promptly forgot about it. Unfortunately, that evening, tragedy struck--his ekele caught fire. When the fire finally was brought under control, the Hawkbrother found to his dismay that the whole place was burnt to the ground. The moral? Well, it's simple (brace yourself)-- People who live in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones! Zhai'ha'allav'a! ______ __ __ _______ ________ _______ __ / ____ \ / / / / / ___ / / ____ / /__ __/ / / / /___/ / \ \_/ / / / / / / /___/ / / / / /_____ / ____ < _\ / / / / / / ____ / / / / ____ / /__/ /_/ /____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ / / /_/ /_/ /_/ 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com "Dear gods, it's a conspiracy of fools!" Jake in real life - Vanyel from _Magic's Price_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:02:57 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: lifebond vs. lovebond Message-ID: On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Stormcloud wrote: > Another thing that brushes this topic: Sherril, Keren, and Ylsa. (I > hope I got all the names right.) Keren says to Sherril that she and > Ylsa would have welcomed her into their relationship. I always though > that Keren and Ylsa were lifebonded. . . (I could be wrong, and some- > one please tell me if I am) but does that mean S, K, and Y were a 3-way > lifebond? Could such a thing be possible? (I'm done babbling now! :) ) > > Stormcloud Moon Keren and Ylsa were lifebonded. Sherril was also lifebonded to Keren, and probably to Ylsa as well. My guess is that Keren and Ylsa never noticed the other bond, because they already had each other. They were so happy, maybe they didn't realize there was room for more. Sherril had longed after them for a long time, it says in Arrows of the Queen, I was just reading it last night. I would go find the page, but right now I am too lay to go get the book. It's somewhere around ch. 14, I think. (:*BECKY*:) +--------------------+ |BLACK KNIGHT | | I'm invincible! | |KING ARTHUR | | You're a looney.| +--------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 00:30:14 -0500 (EST) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Dead? Message-ID: Hello... Hello? You have my Pills! Hello? I'm cold and there are wolves after me.... Alright who killed the list? Mel? Mat? Jaguar? Declan? Fess up, or I'll send out the MIW! BWTMIW! --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 13:23:28 EET From: "Sanna Koulu" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: bleaching, apology & old(?) thread Message-ID: <19BD3847F80-+AT+-otdk.helsinki.fi> Chonni wrote: > And I can't remember if i posted this before, so bear with me.... > LOVEBONDS VS. LIFEBONDS.... > > And a general poll: WHICH WOULD RATHER HAVE, A LIFEBOND, OR A LOVEBOND???? Just a thought: how many people would choose to have a Symb, as in Varley's "Equinoctial"? Anyone? -Seanna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 13:12:17 +0000 From: "David Ramsden" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: New Poll Message-ID: <199601271314.NAA14485-+AT+-gate.dungeon.com> > > > On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, CHONNI wrote: > > > And a general poll: WHICH WOULD RATHER HAVE, A LIFEBOND, OR A > > LOVEBOND???? > > > > ****************Herald Chonni > > Brightwolf************************************** Just because > > some of us can read and write and do a little math does not mean > > we should conquer the universe. > > > Are you kidding? I would very much rather be in a lovebond > than a lifebond. It's mentioned more than several times in the > Velgarth books that a lifebond can be harder on the two people > because they can't _ever_ stand being apart from each other. Just > MHO. > > Amy :) > "Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body" > Can't I hve both :) David Ramsden - Avalon-+AT+-post.dungeon.com ---------------------------------------- Then I'd rather have hope - than nothing at all. - Illyana in X-men Omega ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 09:39:24 -0500 (EST) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bedlam Bards Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, puppies and dragons wrote: > Didn't I see something in the last Firebird catalouge about > a third book in the series with Eric and Beth and Kori? Called > "Beyond World's End" or something like that? Any word on when it's > coming out, or if she's even still planning to write it? With the > loss of the Di Tregarde books, I'm beggining to wonder about my > favorite elf and his human friends. Dunno about the catalouge, but the title makes sense. From what I can remember of the poem: I am a Knight of Ghosts and Shadows, Summoned to Tourney. Ten Leagues beyond the Wide Worlds End, For me it is no Journey. This is all IIRC, but it's likely that it will be the next book. Fair winds amd skies, --Gyrfalcon (Now I have to hunt down someone who has those books...) =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 336 *********************************