MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 356 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Normal? by Marissa K Lingen 2) Re: Stefan after Van's death by McCaffrey's White Dragon 3) Re: How do I join a group? by Marissa K Lingen 4) Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines by Marissa K Lingen 5) Re: Consorts by Heather Watson 6) Re: Lovebonds vs. Lifebonds by Marissa K Lingen 7) Re: T. Huff by Marissa K Lingen 8) Re: Symbs & life-bond differences. Was Re: bleaching etc by Marissa K Lingen 9) Morals (was Life/Love bonds) by "Winterwind" 10) Re: Dojos? by Marissa K Lingen 11) Re: bits and pieces by "Janet R. Wendorf" 12) Re: Fwd: Take this seriously-Aids project (fwd) by Marissa K Lingen 13) Re: New Thread Re: Stefen by Korendil 14) Re: New thread re: Stefan by Heather Watson 15) re: Stef by Korendil 16) RE: Stefan after Van's death by Korendil 17) Re: A Misty Question by Korendil 18) Re: Stefan by "K.J.F. Loveman" 19) Re: THE ONES IN BLACK by Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com 20) Re: bleaching, apology & old(?) thread by Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com 21) Re: THE ONES IN BLACK by Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com 22) Re: The Ones in Black by Stormcloud 23) Re: Consorts by "Katherine M. Brielmaier" 24) Re: Adepts & nodes by Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com 25) Re: bits and pieces by Alison Schiff 26) Re: How do I join a group? by Rosario Holsen-Baker 27) Magewar (NO ObMisty!) by Rosario Holsen-Baker 28) Nit pick, SR spoilers (well, maybe) by duvall.23-+AT+-postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stacy Hunt DuVall) 29) Re: Lifebonds vs Lovebonds by duvall.23-+AT+-postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stacy Hunt DuVall) 30) re: Stef by jr9332-+AT+-cub.uca.edu 31) Re: Consorts by gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) 32) Re: THE ONES IN BLACK by TSALE-+AT+-ups.edu 33) Re: The Ones in Black by STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:05:56 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Normal? Message-ID: <199602052005.OAA09418-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> Normal? Over my dead body, and probably not even then! (Sorry, I was gone for a week and am trying to catch up on messages...urk!) Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 12:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: McCaffrey's White Dragon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Stefan after Van's death Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Feb 1996 Starlight-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu wrote: > Hi, I was just wondering, if anyone has answered this question yet: > > If Stefan and Vanyel were lifebonded, how did Stefan survive after > Vanyel's death? He wasn't bonded to anyone else like Vanyel was at that > time. I don't have MPrice with me, and I can't remember if it said. > > Can someone please email me the answer? > > ************************************************ > * Contact Starlight at debeng-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu * > ************************************************ > IIRC, Stefan was going to commit suicide by poison (the same Talia was going to use, though I forgot the name) when Van's spirit came to him and said that they could be together forever as Van had become, but Stef couldn't kill himself just then because there was much he had yet to do. ___________________ -==UDIC==- ________________ |\__________________\ McCaffrey's White Dragon |\________________\ ||Why is he talking | || | || to that | a.k.a. || Don't ask. | || White Coconut? | Jake Gipple \|________________| \|__________________| (360)-887-4779 LEMUR! "In the name of the moon, I will right wrongs and punish evil! And that means you!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:51:33 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: How do I join a group? Message-ID: <199602051951.NAA09391-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> I second that, and I'd like to know what the difference between groups is, essentially! Thanks. Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:43:26 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Need a Good Read w/Heroines Message-ID: <199602052043.OAA09510-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> Sorry, Mat; I just got back and had to argue my point on _The Ruins of Ambrai_. Yes, their society is awful, but the *author's* viewpoint does not seem to be that men suck, are responsible for all the world's ills, etc., ad nauseum (which isn't long). The *cool* characters, the ones who are the heroes, are also ones who want further equality between the sexes. That's why I felt that it wasn't as heavy-handed as some stuff I've found. Sorry for the lack of Misty-content. Errr...yeah. Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 14:42:29 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Re: Consorts Message-ID: <05FEB96.15884969.0133.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> Mel, I think you may be thinking of Queen Victoria. She was quite young when she ascended the throne, and later married and had about eighteen thousand royal children. It's easy to get facts like that stuck in your head, then mix'n'match the names. I do it all the time. Which is why I think Victoria's husband's name was Philip, or maybe I'm thinking right now of Elizabeth II's husband. Not sure. Anyway, that could be the explanation for which you were searching. HTH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:53:27 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Lovebonds vs. Lifebonds Message-ID: <199602052053.OAA09519-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> Okay, I just have to respond to this. Right now it feels like I'm struggling with one of each, and it's not very cool. But I vote lifebond because, well...*because*. Because that's just how it can be--quite frankly, I wouldn't give up that closeness for anything else. I think the closer, the better, and maybe my views are colored by my current romantic situation, but oh well. Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:59:52 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: T. Huff Message-ID: <199602052059.OAA09525-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> I loved that Death Gate reference, too, but my favorite has to be Fizban/Zifnab, who seems to pop up wherever he feels like it. I have characters like that, and it makes me mad, but at the same time it's fun. Ah well. Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:04:33 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Symbs & life-bond differences. Was Re: bleaching etc Message-ID: <199602052104.PAA09533-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> Now hold on one friggin' second. Who's maligning Heinlein? What author alive is better than Heinlein? (yes, I realize that that will get me killed in this group--let me amend it to SF author, Misty and other fantasy folks as exceptions) How on God's earth is anyone more *interesting*? This I have to see! And I agree on the idea that a lifebond would be much better than a symb--to quote Ayn Rand (loosely), "To say I love you, you must first be able to say 'I.'" Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:04:45 EDT From: "Winterwind" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Morals (was Life/Love bonds) Message-ID: <960D64174C-+AT+-pub.sbu.edu> On Mon. 2/5/96, Declan wrote: >Well. After seeing all the things that go on in this world from day >to day, I have to say that SOME people do lack morals, such as those >drug pushers that sell to kids. But then there are people that take >morals too far, such as the example Khenta gave. Those people who >condemn homosexuals (both genders) as sick and messed up in the head >are the kind of people who take those morals too far. I think it's >perfectly natural for one person to love another even when they are >the same gender. As for the way the world is going in politics, >well, I dont pay attention to >it much because it makes me sick to watch these politicians and >senators who really don't care about the statte that our country is >in (the US that is). I dont know how bad it is in other countries, >so I cant give my opinion on those. >(Steps down off soapbox) >Theres more I would say, but this post is getting kind of long. So. >Anyone else want to comment on the state of the world today? >Declan Sigh. O.K. I don't think it's so much that people have too many morals as that they apply them wrong. I was born and raised a Christian, and yes, I still am one. Yet, most "Christian" morals say that homosexuality is wrong. I say that's a load of crap, that I really don't care who a person loves, that it's the love that matters. Most "Christian" morals say that other religions are demon work. Hey, I *enjoyed* the Di Tregarde books, and I *enjoyed* MZB's "Mists of Avalon" and I *enjoy* works that tell me more about other religions - and it's hardly my place to condemn them. I could go on ... Yet, I believe I have morals. I try not to hurt other people. I try to help when I can. You know, "Love thy neighbor as thyself"? It's a good idea. And just believe some ignorant so-called "Christian" with an agenda to reach has made some poor people punching bags doesn't mean the whole "morals" and "religion" idea is bad. That sort of person isn't the keeper of my conscience, my God is ... like some peoples' Goddess, or Gods, or whatever. I wish we could all just follow Valdemar's creed. There is no one true way. Don't hurt others. Help when you can. Well, anyway, there's my rant-and-rave for the day. I hope I don't have to duck flames, but I'm prepared to, if necessary. Zhai'elleva, Winterwind ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:19:56 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Dojos? Message-ID: <199602052119.PAA09545-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> Whoa. I just read one by someone (I forget who, my mind is numb) linked laziness in general with dislike of exercise. Hello! Hello? Laziness as a general quality has nothing to do with specific likes/dislikes! If a Herald didn't like maths, for example, it wouldn't mean that that Herald was lazy and not right for the job--it would just mean that he/she didn't like maths. With the jobs that have been discussed which wouldn't require peak-condition Heralds, it seems to me that exercise would not *always* be strictly necessary. They can be useful without being able to beat each other up! Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:23:34 -0500 From: "Janet R. Wendorf" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: bits and pieces Message-ID: <9602052129.AA03466-+AT+-enterprise.udayton.edu> > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:33:44 GMT > Reply-to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > From: "Patrick S. Waterlander" > To: wendorjr-+AT+-elwood.udayton.edu > Subject: Re: bits and pieces > On Fri, 2 Feb 1996 EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org wrote: > > > Buncha short comments while I battle off this rotten cold... > > > > re: Firecats. Alison beat me to the punch in noting that all of them > > have been male so far. > > > > Yoicks! and Away! > > > > Cindy > > > Isnt that because Solaris is the first female _true_ Son of the Sun? > > Declan > Something has been bothering me for a while, so I will ask. How do you know the assmption that males always come back as male is right? It seems like gender is not a big issue in general, in Velgarth, so why would the Goddess/God view it differently? I guess the question is what makes a soul unique and what exaclty is reicarnated? With regard to the firecats, I would think that if she wanted them to "breed," one of them would have conveniantly switched gender. Janet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:31:40 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fwd: Take this seriously-Aids project (fwd) Message-ID: <199602052131.PAA09554-+AT+-mora.gac.edu> I agree with those who object to that sort of chain mail. I'm definitely not against AIDS research funding or anything like that, but I think this project has definite (gaping) scientific flaws and *definitely* didn't belong on a group like this. Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:40:15 -0600 From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: New Thread Re: Stefen Message-ID: <199602052140.PAA16033-+AT+-ns.cent.com> >This requires some very deep thinking. Ive thought about it for a while, >and I come to this conclusion. Stefen and Tylendel are COMPLETELY >different people. I say this because when Vanyel and Stefen go to Forst >Reach along with Savil, Vanyel has a dream one night and in that dream >Tylendel tells Van that he is sorry, that he was being selfish, and that >he didn't love Van enough. I think that both Moondance and Starwind were >wrong when they said that Stefen was Tylendel reincarnated. I think that >Stefen is a completely different person, with a completely different >soul, and the only reason they are together is because (and this is the >part that I agree with Moondance and Starwind) Van and 'Lendels >relationship wasn't finished, so Van had a second chance to make things >work out. These are my thoughts on the matter. It may be that I am >totally wrong. Anyone else who would like to contribute to this? > >Declan Well, there were , IMO, MASSIVE idicators that he was Lendel... 1. The Taleydras think he was Lendel 2. He knew of thw weather on the night of Lendel's death 3. He calls Van "Ashke" 4. That Van would rather have him than Lendel with him at the end...I have the feeling that if they were different he would have had to choose, or have *both* 5. The karma. Van has to live w/o Lendel, so "Lendel" has to live w/o Van. ************ As I find I have no ASCII skill, I'm gonna do a hypercube instead... Till then: Korendil -+AT+- undermac ; rubin-+AT+-cent.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 15:40:36 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Re: New thread re: Stefan Message-ID: <05FEB96.16931064.0217.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> How do you figure, my fine feathered friend? How does that particular conversation prove that everyone in the entire series, including Vanyel, whom one would think ought to know, was dead wrong about Stefan being Tylendel's reincarnation? I'll be glad to discuss the idea, just expound a little on your theory and your proof, please. HTH <"I'm not perky...but I want to be...."> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:44:50 -0600 From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: re: Stef Message-ID: <199602052144.PAA16250-+AT+-ns.cent.com> >Hmmmmm. well. Given my theory that Tylendel volunteered to return to >the world as a child, I think he may have "traded in" his mage gift for >the Bardic gift. I don't think he could have taken a second shot at >being a Herald, not under the circumstances anyway, and if he had kept >the mage gift, then he would almost have had to be a Herald to stay in >Valdemar, near Vanyel. The Bardic gift, on the other hand, _will_ almost >guarantee that he will be brought to Haven sooner or later. Hmm..reminds me of Ristlin in Dragons of SUmmer Flame by Weis and Hickman..whoops..no more detail on THAT for those who haven't read it;> > >So once he is dead, he has the Bardic gift, rather than the Mage gift. > >The other possibility here is that he simply concedes the superior >training and experience to Vanyel, who functioned as a mage for more >years than Tylendel was even alive. Ah..but considering how long they were together in a forest, and how soon bandits realized it was a Bad Idea to go in, they probably had *some* spare time;>...and *that*, ahem, would have to get a bit boirng after 700 years...or so you'd imagine;> -Korendil (who is realizing he's takiong two sides on the same arguement, and doesn't give a damn;> ************ As I find I have no ASCII skill, I'm gonna do a hypercube instead... Till then: Korendil -+AT+- undermac ; rubin-+AT+-cent.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:51:38 -0600 From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: RE: Stefan after Van's death Message-ID: <199602052151.PAA16453-+AT+-ns.cent.com> >This doesn't answer the question of what he did when he got ...uhm... >physical cravings, but it does answer the question of the lifebond. In >effect, he was still lifebonded, even if it was to a ghost. That would also explain why Van & Stef didna' get to do the 'eyes' thingy when they first met...technically, if you beleive that Stef is Lendel, then Van was lifebonded, if to a child...same soul, same bond? That also explains why Van didna' die when Lendel died. Speaking of the 'eyes' thingy, what happenes to someone who's blind and gets lifebonded? All the bonds in the books happen when their eyes meet..Choosing, lifebonds.. ************ As I find I have no ASCII skill, I'm gonna do a hypercube instead... Till then: Korendil -+AT+- undermac ; rubin-+AT+-cent.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:53:39 -0600 From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: A Misty Question Message-ID: <199602052153.PAA16520-+AT+-ns.cent.com> >As someone who hates others buying books for her, I'd recommend gift >vouchers from a local fantasy bookshop if possible. :) Actually, I made sure to ASK him first...as someone who hates having people buy books for him, I almost died when I got some grocery store book about some killer virus and a Star Wars book...yuck... ************ As I find I have no ASCII skill, I'm gonna do a hypercube instead... Till then: Korendil -+AT+- undermac ; rubin-+AT+-cent.com ***************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 22:05:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "K.J.F. Loveman" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Stefan Message-ID: It's been a loooong time since I've read the Winds trilogy -- but is Tylendel's companion shacking up with Vanyel, Yfandes and Stefan/ Tylendel in Sorrows? Must get crowded in there. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:13:36 -0500 From: Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: THE ONES IN BLACK Message-ID: <960205171336_415205790-+AT+-emout05.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-01-23 18:36:45 EST, you write: >On Tues, Jan 23, Jaguar wrote: > >> Accepting new applicants for the Cat People. (Noxcat?? :) The >> squemish need not apply. >:) > >Is dual membership allowed? > >Tammy > >"It's time to ask yourself what you believe" > > I am back from being kiddnapped for 2 weeks and ready to resume my mantle of leadership. In regards to dual membership: if the 2 dissagreeed and you sideded with one the other might throw you out. Dalisair K' Sheyna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:23:24 -0500 From: Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: bleaching, apology & old(?) thread Message-ID: <960205172322_415214759-+AT+-mail04.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-01-25 06:20:37 EST, you write: >LOVEBONDS VS. LIFEBONDS.... > > Case study: Erin and Terry meet, and gradually fall in love. They >are together for some number of years, and remain deeply in love, but are >only lovebonded. Enter Pat. Pat and Terry meet and instantly become >lifebonded. My question is, what happens next? Could this happen? > Sad, but it does happen. >And a general poll: WHICH WOULD RATHER HAVE, A LIFEBOND, OR A LOVEBOND???? > >****************Herald Chonni >Brightwolf************************************** Lovebond. Easily. Lifebonds are a pain in the ass. If your bondmate is unhappy you are too. Even if you were extreamily pissed off at them and they became upset, you feel it and also become upset. Same if you have strond empthy. Gemwind K' Sheyna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 17:30:00 -0500 From: Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: THE ONES IN BLACK Message-ID: <960205173000_415221547-+AT+-emout08.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-01-25 06:37:58 EST, you write: > Not to sound gloating, but the Cat People membership just got >a boost. How are the Ladies in Green doing? Think we can trounce the >competition? (Looking around nervously for more applications.) ONE!! ONLY ONE!!! By the way have I missed the Hawkbrother joke list? Dalisair Gemwind ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 17:21:27 EST From: Stormcloud To: Subject: Re: The Ones in Black Message-ID: <05FEB96.18746524.0147.MUSIC-+AT+-SJUMUSIC> >> >>EXQUEEEZE ME ! I don't remember being used as a floor mop. >>Does this mean that I am the only remaining One In Black? >>Say it ain't so!!!! >>To all the other groups Please don't wipe me out :- >> Shannsu[sp???] [translation :- peace: Jennifer Roberson >>The Cheysuli Chronicals] >> >>I see you shiver in antici....pation >>Jason [ sobbing at being left alone] :( > >* Flashes of mage-induced lightining begin to flash, in a circular >pattern. Faster and faster they spin, so that all blend to one until they >are insepparatable. Tension, both physical and magical mounts, and the >wheel of lightning *cracks* into two halves, as if a doorway...the >nether-space inbetween *shimmers*, and slowly fills with a grey mist. >Behind you can make the faint outline of what appears to be a mix of an >artist's loft, a chic little restaurnat in NY, and a castel you KNOW is >from a cheesy remake of Arthurian legends...and forward steps a tall, >thin boned figure, cast in a flowing, black tunic, and pants the color of >darkness itself, riding a horse you KNOW is going to be called >Nightlight, as while black it glows in unnerving brightness. ANd as you >look up at the fine-boned figure, you gawk. For instead of rounded, >mortal ears, you see beautiful, tapered cartilage, ending in a point, and >felinious green eyes. A Sidhe. "I have come to join your ranks, Mortal. I >can offer much to your organization, and in return I ask only to share in >your creativity. A deal I presume you shall take up..." > >************ >As I find I have no ASCII skill, I'm gonna do a hypercube instead... >Till then: >Korendil -+AT+- undermac ; rubin-+AT+-cent.com >***************************** _NICE_ entrance, elf. I've decided if you can't beat them, join them. And since black is my favorite colour. . . . The Tayledras Adept Stormcloud steps forward. His eyes are gray, his hair shining white as the breeze stirs it, his skin almost as pale. The black silks he wears, while simple for a mage, are none- theless stunning against his white skin. At his side is a huge kyree, and wheeling above is a beautiful peregrine falcon. :I greet you. May I be of any service?: -+AT+->--- Stormcloud Moon the Misty Maniac Prism wilsonj-+AT+-sjumusic.stjohns.edu Power! O blood, blood, blood! -Othello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 96 18:45:40 CST From: "Katherine M. Brielmaier" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Consorts Message-ID: <78154.brie0030-+AT+-gold.tc.umn.edu> Sorry about not having attributions: my system is being temperamental today. >> > So how come Daren seems to be a >> > second in command to Selenay instead of a co-ruler? >> > Well, rules of succession and accession aside, since I'm not sure Misty has made that completely clear, let's consider just the situation. It never occurred to me that Daren could have equal status with Selenay. And just because he's a Consort, that does *not* means he's a co-ruler. >From what I understand, in a Monarchy ("one ruler"), there can only be one person who is the head of state. This means that Daren cannot rule, even though he is a Herald. No matter which way you cut it, he's not the Monarch, because he's not of the royal line of Valdemar. He *could* be called a king, but he would just be King of Valdemar, not King of the Valdemarans, while Selenay is Queen of the Valdemarans (there *is* a difference--which France hashed out a few hundred years ago). Daren might rule the land, but Selenay rules the people. Now, to bring up Co-consorts Arden and Leesa. Personally, I think Misty was breaking her own rules and the rules of the country. It's a MONARCHY, and as such this Co-consort situation is very improbable. Perhaps both Arden and Leesa had an equal claim to the throne, traced through different royal bloodlines. It happens, but generally only if the direct-line of succession is missing. In this hypothetical double-claimant situation, probably there would be a split among the populace about who the true Monarch would be. If one person is chosen over the other, then the rejected claimant's adherents would be just a *little* upset, right? Hence, the only solution would be for the two claimants to rule together, jointly. It's easier for all concerned if the two are married to each other, because that would eliminate the possibility of their separate children fighting over all this the next time. That's really the only feasible co-consort situation I can see. Anybody else? 's e do bheatha Kaatje "Then something Tookish woke up inside him, and he wished to go and see the great mountains, and hear the pine-trees and the waterfalls, and explore the caves, and wear a sword instead of a walking-stick." Tolkien, _The Hobbit_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:53:54 -0500 From: Dalisair3-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Adepts & nodes Message-ID: <960205185353_313506153-+AT+-mail06.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-01-27 04:13:42 EST, you write: > You're talking about the wonderful series that they DARED to >cancel, right? I loved that show! Anyways, I'm not sure what the actors >name was, but the character was Vincent. And Catherine was somebody off >of Days of our Lives. She played.....umm....Kayla, yeah that's it. I >agree, he would make a good Mornelithe. I have the sheet music for the theme >song right in front of me, and it has a wonderful picture on the front of it. > >He looks really Mornelitheish (new word!). > > (:*BECKY*:) Vincet was played by Ron Pearlman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:51:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alison Schiff To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: bits and pieces Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Patrick S. Waterlander wrote: > > that all of them > > have been male so far. > > > > Yoicks! and Away! > > > > Cindy > > > Isnt that because Solaris is the first female _true_ Son of the Sun? > > Declan > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > -Wishing he wasn't so > tired of life- > Declan > patw-+AT+-clark.edu > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Exactly! So when she dies and comes back as a firecat there will be the possibility of breeding! (And maybe after the population grows there will be firecat Choosings of preists?) Alison Schiff Nothing shocks me, I'm a Scientist." -Indiana Jones ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:21:26 -0500 (EST) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: How do I join a group? Message-ID: > I second that, and I'd like to know what the difference between > groups is, essentially! Thanks. > Morticia > The Cat People (yes, I figured this out, and in the middle of a 4 hour play rehearsal! Aren't you proud of me :) are here to represent the intrests of non-humans, as opposed to the Men In White. We also do Just Causes if there seems to be an overwhelming need for it (but we don't believe in Bardic immunity for any would-be Leslacs!). We are currently allied with the Ladies in Green, and it would seem will be so for a good while (hopefully) Talk to Lady Tammy about the Ladies in Green, Jason (JSTOKES) or Declan (I think?) about the Ones In Black and GYRFALCON!!! about the Men In White. |--------------<>----------------| | Sure. Fine. Whatever. | |----------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:32:43 -0500 (EST) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Magewar (NO ObMisty!) Message-ID: The games have begun! All those wishing to participate, see me or Shadow-Lover (or anyone else who wants to stick their head up) and we'll add you to the list. :) |--------------<>----------------| | Sure. Fine. Whatever. | |----------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:33:09 -0500 From: duvall.23-+AT+-postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stacy Hunt DuVall) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Nit pick, SR spoilers (well, maybe) Message-ID: <199602060433.XAA12830-+AT+-postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hey all! Let me just say this before getting on to Misty stuff.... "gnuplot"---AARRRGHHHHHHHH! Thank you for letting me vent my frustrations. Now, on to misty... Space for my kinda-spoiler That should do it. Has anyone else noticed how An'desha's eyes change color? On page 19 of _SW_ (hardback), near the bottom of the page... "...His hair was a pure, snowy white now, and his eyes a pale silver..." and o page 57 of _SR_ (hardback), about halfway down... "...An'desha's eyes were those of a cat's, still: green-yellow, and slit-pupiled." Ah, well, my useless comment for the day, as well as over use of ellipses (sp). Fair Winds, Stacy Hunt DuVall, the Chemistry Avenger duvall.23-+AT+-osu.edu One of the saddests aspects of my life now that I'm a grad student is that I tend to check my math...in my sleep. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:43:37 -0500 From: duvall.23-+AT+-postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stacy Hunt DuVall) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Lifebonds vs Lovebonds Message-ID: <199602060443.XAA15630-+AT+-postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> Well, here's my $0.02... I may have to go with lovebonds over lifebonds. I happen to be married, and I love my husband very much, but to share that much of my life and my moods with someone else...I'm not sure. Everyone needs a little privacy, and to think and feel the way she/he wants too. A lifebond seems just as much a burden as a blessing, especially when one partner is extremely moody, unhappy, ect. Amazing how a few years of marriage can kill some romantic notions :-). Fair Winds, Stacy Hunt DuVall, the Chemistry Avenger duvall.23-+AT+-osu.edu One of the saddests aspects of my life now that I'm a grad student is that I tend to check my math...in my sleep. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 23:53:47 CST From: jr9332-+AT+-cub.uca.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Stef Message-ID: <72FE22E5D02-+AT+-cub.uca.edu> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 05:39:04 GMT Reply-to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk From: Korendil To: jr9332-+AT+-cub.uca.edu Subject: re: Stef Hmm..reminds me of Ristlin in Dragons of SUmmer Flame by Weis and Hickman..whoops..no more detail on THAT for those who haven't read it;> > > -Korendil (who is realizing he's takiong two sides on the same arguement, and doesn't give a damn;> I just finished that book! (Dragons of Summer Flame) It was so good!!! -Pandora ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 22:59:54 -0800 From: gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com (Gjuka) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Consorts Message-ID: Not true....the married partner is only a consort if he is not a herald. If he/she is a Herald, they can be King or Queen beside their spouse...am pretty sure i remember someplace that mentions this, and will try to find it so i can post a direct quote. Therefor, Daren could be King, and Selenay's equal technicaly, though because she has been queen for so long alone, i doubt the people would place him as highly in their minds and hearts. >Well, rules of succession and accession aside, since I'm not sure Misty has >made that completely clear, let's consider just the situation. >It never occurred to me that Daren could have equal status with Selenay. >And just because he's a Consort, that does *not* means he's a co-ruler. >>From what I understand, in a Monarchy ("one ruler"), there can only be one >person who is the head of state. This means that Daren cannot rule, even >though he is a Herald. No matter which way you cut it, he's not the >Monarch, because he's not of the royal line of Valdemar. He *could* be >called a king, but he would just be King of Valdemar, not King of the >Valdemarans, while Selenay is Queen of the Valdemarans (there *is* a >difference--which France hashed out a few hundred years ago). >Daren might rule the land, but Selenay rules the people. gjuka-+AT+-cnw.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 1:14:32 -0800 (PST) From: TSALE-+AT+-ups.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: THE ONES IN BLACK Message-ID: <960206011432.2021c48d-+AT+-ups.edu> I have been accused of being a cat by my best friend so might I too join the Cat People? Tayla tsale-+AT+-ups.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:44:36 GMT From: STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: The Ones in Black Message-ID: <254887012D7-+AT+-EXCALIBUR.MMU.AC.UK> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 02:28:43 GMT Reply-to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk From: Korendil To: 95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Ones in Black 3rd of feb Korendil wrote:- >* Flashes of mage-induced lightining begin to flash, in a circular pattern. Faster and faster they spin, so that all blend to one until they are insepparatable. Tension, both physical and magical mounts, and the wheel of lightning *cracks* into two halves, as if a doorway...the nether-space inbetween *shimmers*, and slowly fills with a grey mist. Behind you can make the faint outline of what appears to be a mix of an artist's loft, a chic little restaurnat in NY, and a castel you KNOW is from a cheesy remake of Arthurian legends...and forward steps a tall, thin boned figure, cast in a flowing, black tunic, and pants the color of darkness itself, riding a horse you KNOW is going to be called Nightlight, as while black it glows in unnerving brightness. ANd as you look up at the fine-boned figure, you gawk. For instead of rounded, mortal ears, you see beautiful, tapered cartilage, ending in a point, and felinious green eyes. A Sidhe. "I have come to join your ranks, Mortal. I can offer much to your organization, and in return I ask only to share in your creativity. A deal I presume you shall take up..." ************ As I find I have no ASCII skill, I'm gonna do a hypercube instead... Till then: Korendil -+AT+- undermac ; rubin-+AT+-cent.com ***************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I would be a fool not to accept you, the Goddess welcomes all who would serve her willingly. The Sidhe are most respected by myself and the Ones In Black. I give you Honor and welcome. Let us hope more will join us soon. I see you shiver in antici....pation Jason[OIB] ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 356 *********************************