MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 399

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Coconut fight?
	by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons)
  2) Re: Nother Newbie
	by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons)
  3) Re: People we would like to meet
	by Lady Crysania <amason-+AT+-stmarys-ca.edu>
  4) Re: Jaguar's Sanity
	by Rosario Holsen-Baker <rholsen-+AT+-sidwell.edu>
  5) Re: Hunks 
	by "those little weenies, playing their little weenie games" <recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
  6) Re: 0nRe: Dark Shadows 
	by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons)
  7) Re: Pre- Vows and Honors
	by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
  8) Re: Hunky immortals / Alberich Story.
	by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
  9) Re: Coconut fight?
	by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
 10) 
	by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
 11) Re: Out Of Print - Copyright Ethics (fwd)
	by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
 12) Re: People we would like to meet
	by "those little weenies, playing their little weenie games" <recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
 13) Re: Misty Co-Authors
	by Mary Temple <noxcat-+AT+-eden.com>
 14) YKYBRTMMLW.. (fwd)
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
 15) Re: Dark Shadows (Was Di Tregarde)
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
 16) Re: People we'd like to meet
	by "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>
 17) Re: Kerowyn (was RE: Hunks)
	by "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>
 18) Re: Brad Pitttttt?  Bleeech!
	by "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>
 19) Re: NEWBIE
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
 20) Re:Griffin(was-Why Wings?)
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
 21) Re: Pre- Vows and Honors
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:34:40 -0700 (MST)
From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Coconut fight?
Message-ID: <199603062234.PAA12802-+AT+-usr5.primenet.com>

At 02:46 AM 3/6/96 GMT, Soljan-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
>Okay,  this has nothing to do with ML,  but with MontyPython.  Just a warning
>so those who want can delete it.
>
>A friend of mine wondered if we should create a Monty Python board/chat room.
> We didn't get many responses,  but now I see many <G> people who may be
>interseted.  Any ideas where we could do this board?  No,  it's not "a stupid
>concept."  
>
>Soljan :-)
>
>
        If  you  can  figure  out  how  to  do  it,  count  me  in.  Maybe
we  could  just  get  intertested  people  from  this  list,  and  create  a
little  side  list,  like  we  did  for  the  war  and  the  religion  talk.
As  soon  as  we  start,  I  declare  a  coconut  war!


                                    Lady  'Reesa



******************************************************************************
    "True...if Valerie hadn't saved me I'd have been cut in half...and half
of an   assassin is just an ass."  Sam, from "Villians By Necessity" by Eve
Forward

    "Everything  important  about  males  and  females  is  exactly  the
same...except  guys  are  idiots."  From  "NeverNever"  by  Will  Shetterly
******************************************************************************
 


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:39:35 -0700 (MST)
From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Nother Newbie
Message-ID: <199603062239.PAA24268-+AT+-usr1.primenet.com>


>I recommend Patricia C. Wrede, and Stefen Brust.  Wrede is just plain 
>brilliant and Brust is the best intrique writer I have ever run across.  
>Oddly enough, they were originally members of the same writing club 
>(which was the genesis of the Liavek anthologies).  Anyway, just some 
>recommended readings.
>
>Ken
>
>Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife 
>Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
>Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
>kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me
>
>
        HAH!!!!!<- look  five!  I  knew  I'd  seen  a  Brust  sig  out
there!  Have  you  read  "Orca"  yet?  It's  almost  as  twisted  as
"Taltos"!  Three  different  points  of  veiw,  but  at  least  one  of
them  is  Vlad's  again!  If  you  ever  want  to  discuss  these  books
(And  there's  soooo  much  to  discuss...)  my  addy  is  <mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com>


                                 Lady  'Reesa


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:42:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Lady Crysania <amason-+AT+-stmarys-ca.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: People we would like to meet
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960306143429.12587C-100000-+AT+-galileo.stmarys-ca.edu>




On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote:

>     If you had a choice of three people you could live with 
> from any of Misty's books, who would they be and why? (Doesn't that 
> sound like a question from an English exam! ugh. Sorry. Duck flames 
> from fellow over-stressed students). Ladies, stop drooling over the 
> keyboard. *Live* with, not have a *fling* with. Same goes for you 
> gentlemen! Or which series you would like to live in.

	Uhh...hard question..not!  hehehe...  Since you didn't say that 
it had to be in a particular series, these are the people I would want to 
meet:

1.	Vanyel...though he probably wouldn't ever talk to me because: 
   a.	He's shay'a'chern.  And I'm female.
   b.	He's always busy with Herald stuff.
   c.	He doesn't really talk to someone who isn't a close friend because
	he built all those walls up around himself.

2.	Savil.  She's really interesting and reminds me a bit of my own 
	grandmother..hard-headed but sweet.

3.	Elspeth. (Ducking head and running for cover)  I've always identified
	the most with her.  She's not perfect.  She's a little bit stuck 
	up and spoiled, and most of all she's considered a b**** by a lot of 
	people.  Why do I identify with that?  People have a generalization 
	that hard-headed women who have a strong will are b****'s.  And I've 
	been called one more than once by a guy who thought I was "stepping 
	out of line".

>     To live in - LHM. Quite frankly, the idea of living in war-torn 
> WOF, BG, or SR is *scary*, and I'm not that adventurous.

I wouldn't mind living in LHM. But, I *would* mind living in Valdemar 
during the time of SR especially.  Just my thoughts...

**#**Lady Crysania**#**			"All Beauty held 
A Lady In Green (ALIG)			in bondage is
Aka "Amy"				Beauty lost"
amason-+AT+-stmarys-ca.edu				-Vanyel, Demonbane


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:49:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Rosario Holsen-Baker <rholsen-+AT+-sidwell.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Jaguar's Sanity
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960306174807.26547A-100000-+AT+-gateway.us.sidwell.edu>

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote:

> >         You're on this list, I think that qualifies as crazy. Then again, I'm a
> > participant in the mage-duel, so what does that make me? :)
> 
> Lunchmeat?   Hey, you're the one spitting sand. (For the second time IIRC)  
> Silly Jaguar.
> 
	IIRC, you're still stuck in the mud, even though you've 
bi-located. Silly Gyrfalcon. :)

*****LADY JAGUAR*****
Leader of the Cat People
Lady in Green
LGMCB, DHTBB
"The mice may have the right
but the cat has the claws."
*********************


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:31:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "those little weenies, playing their little weenie games" <recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Hunks 
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960306172857.19077B-100000-+AT+-phoenix.princeton.edu>

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Stormcloud wrote:

>     I like Antonio Banderas, but not in that movie and NOT as that 
> character!  I loved Armand in the books, but Banderas was all wrong, 
> IMO.  Wrong looks, wrong accent, wrong age.
(snip)
Agreed! Absolutely! Personally, I thought Jaye Davidson (sp?) (you know, 
the guy/girl from Crying Game) would have been perfect -- young, 
androgynous, good looking but not necessarily in a masculine way...

ObMisty: none (sorry!)

Becky


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With my luck, the entrance exam to Heaven will have logarithms on it.



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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:56:56 -0700 (MST)
From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (puppies and dragons)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: 0nRe: Dark Shadows 
Message-ID: <199603062256.PAA12109-+AT+-usr4.primenet.com>

At 08:34 AM 3/6/96 GMT, Elisa Shapiro wrote:
>
>> At 10:22 PM 03/04/96 GMT, you wrote:
>> >Talking about Immortals, how about Duncan MacCleod of Highlander?  I 
>> >would like to be his "One".
>> 
>forget Duncan, what about Amanda?
>
>    - Elisa
>    http://mmm.mbhs.edu/~eshapiro
>	
>		i am a work in progress 
>		dressed in the fabric of a world unfolding
>		   -  ani difranco
>
>
        And  as  long  as  she's  been  mentioned,  why  the  hell  not
both  of  them?  <EVIL  GRIN>  Sure,  in  the  end  there  can  be  only
one,  but  for  right  now,  the  gang's  all  here!!!!!<-look  five!

                                    Lady  'Reesa
                                Possesor  of  an  extremely
                                dirty  mind...


******************************************************************************
    "True...if Valerie hadn't saved me I'd have been cut in half...and half 
of an  assassin is just an ass."  Sam, from "Villians By Necessity" by
Eve Forward
    "Everything important about males and females is exactly the
same...except  guys are idiots." From "NeverNever" by Will Shetterly
******************************************************************************
 


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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:22:10 EST
From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Pre- Vows and Honors
Message-ID: <9603070022.AA18688-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>


Mel wrote:
> Kerry wrote:
> > As a matter of interest, sword & sorcery 3 is still in print in 
> > England, as I saw new copies there in a couple of big bookstores in 
> > early 95. (A chain of bookstores, with black their predominant colour
> > on the sign and the walls.. can't remember the name of course).
> 
> Sounds like ... uh. It isn't Dillons, it probably isn't Blackwells, it might
> have been Books Etc. On the other hand, this is sort of interesting because
> I don't believe I have _ever_ seen UK editions of the S&S books -- all of 
> mine, mostly bought in this country, have been US imports. I will check this 
> tonight...

It may in fact have been a US import, I just meant that it was on the 
shelves.. :) Sorry I can't be more specific but I spent half a week going
through London bookstores and they tend to blur together. (It was on Oxford
St, that much I remember).

On the same copyright note, a few folks have mentioned the fact that 
particular things -are- out of print etc.. While I'm not pompous enough
(Shaddup Seanna *grin*) to comment yay or nay on the moral aspect, legally
it makes no difference whatsoever whether the thing is in print or not.
(And considered from the point of view of an author perhaps hoping to get
future royalties from a reprint, it shouldn't make any difference either.)

Cheers,
Kerry. <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>











 

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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:37:29 EST
From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Hunky immortals / Alberich Story.
Message-ID: <9603070037.AA18919-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>


Tammy wrote:
> Jaguar wrote:
> > Kerry wrote:
> > > D'you love me? *grin*
> > 
> > 	Dunno. Are you dead, fictional, taken, or gay? If so, we probably do!
> 
> Worse--he's in Australia!!  (trust me--LDR's are frustrating!)

<sigh> Some people are just sooo hard to please..
So if I were, say, a fictional Aussie gay vampire in a relationship,
that'd be the ultimate in unattainability.. Cool..
Hmmm, 1 out of 5 ain't ... is only 20%. <sigh>

ObMisty: Someone said they didn't like the way SR dealt with Firesong
- while I agree 'cos I quite liked Firesong, I do admire Misty for daring
to have major characters fall from grace in that type of way especially
given that it was at least partly his fault (ie there wasn't a deus ex
machina resolution - "Oh, it was the mage-storms, we've fixed 'em F's 
going to be fine now.."). I finally thought of a counter just now too, to
the question posed ages ago about why Talia, or one of the other empathic
(in the normal sense) type character didn't pick up on what was going on.
Firesong's an adept, with top-notch adept class shields and prides himself
on his control over his behaviour - even if he was tearing up inside, his
shields will stop Talia sensing it, and until his control broke to the
extent that his behaviour changed outwardly, no one would notice..

(Look! An ObMisty and also at least somewhat on topic - F was definitely
 a hunk and was trying to become immortal - how's that for rationalization?)
*grin*

Cheers,
Kerry. <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>
"Oh, and for the record, if they kill me, this was NOT a good idea on my
  part."
        --Marcus, "Exogenesis" Babylon 5














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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:54:36 -0500
From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Coconut fight?
Message-ID: <960306185434_439863829-+AT+-mail02.mail.aol.com>

>Okay,  this has nothing to do with ML,  but with MontyPython.

<snip, snip>

Excuse me, but who (or what) is MontyPython? Everybody seems to know but
me!!!!!!!! <exasperated sigh> Sorry, you will have to forgive my occasionally
ignorant questions! <g>

Zhai'helleva!

Lady Moonsong
An Honorable Lady In Green
Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com

"Do not insult the alligator until you have reached the other side of the
river."


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:54:38 -0500
From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
Message-ID: <199603062354.SAA02942-+AT+-emout05.mail.aol.com>

kinda wish he showed up more in >the later
books.  

I liked Griffin A LOT  and I would have LOVED to see more of him than the
puny part they gave him in AotQ and AotF!!!!! Yes, he saved them when they
had to battle Ancar's mages and their demons that they threw at Valdemar but
couldn't he have had a bigger part or made more appearances? I'm not saying
battling demons is a little thing but he was only there for a small amount of
time! Comments?

Zhai'helleva!

Lady Moonsong
An Honorable Lady In Green
Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com

"Do not insult the alligator until you have reached the other side of the
river."

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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:56:31 EST
From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Out Of Print - Copyright Ethics (fwd)
Message-ID: <9603070056.AA19098-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>



Brigit wrote:
> I got this from another list and thought it was a good point on works 
> which are out of print.

Okay, this is probably going to come across as a flame, but I hope it
will understood as arguing the idea, not a personal attack on you 
Brigit. :)

> I've been thinking of suggesting to spread photocopies of the OOP
> Tarma&Kethry stories, too (but failed to post it on the list after Becky 
> A.C. (?) mentioned to get hold of the S&S-books), and couldn't make up my 
> mind about copyrights and their violations at the time.

Don't do it. I want to see the stories as much as anyone (I haven't even
seen most of them), but just as I won't play on a Misty-related mud, so
I wouldn't read them. The fundamental point about copyright is that it
is not intended to make sure we get to read whatever we want to read (at
least, not directly) - it's to protect authors and people who spend their
time and often make their livelihood from being creative.

Now if we infringe on those rights, then indirectly we stop them from
reaping the rewards of their toil and in some cases, that means that they
won't continue to toil and we won't see future books. And looked at from
the view of enlightened self-interest, that'd be a bad thing. :)

And for what it's worth, it's definitely not legal in Australia, England
or the US; and almost certainly not in most 1st world countries (because
of the international copyright accords).

[Brigit quoted this chap]
> From: James BRYANT <jbryant-+AT+-luna.co.uk>
>
> I feel there is no moral objection to copying a work that is unavailable
> from its publisher.
> In fact I think that some future copyright convention should make this a 
> right. It would be nice to send the AUTHOR (not the publisher who has 
> chosen to make it unavailable) a payment or gift but I don't for fear of 
> possible legal consequences.

Reading a work is not a right. What this chap proposes in analogous to
stealing a manuscript from some author's drawer because that author
decides not to, or hasn't published it.. *sarcasm mode on* And after all,
why not - it's his right to read it after all and the author's fault for
not publishing it.. (or not being able to find a publisher, or waiting to
publish an anthology or ... you get the picture). *mode off*
You wouldn't steal a painting from someone's home, don't steal an author's
livelihood.

> Instead I pass on a favour to some deserving cause.

Bully for him. That's a big help to the author..

This is where I'd normally back-peddle and qualify etc and mention 
exceptions like libraries and the like. Today, I won't - libraries are
a special case and I'll continue the discussion in private email if
anyone wants to, or on the list if there's interest.

Cheers,
Kerry. <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>





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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:58:50 -0500 (EST)
From: "those little weenies, playing their little weenie games" <recary-+AT+-phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: People we would like to meet
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960306195202.17787B-100000-+AT+-tucson.princeton.edu>

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote:

> 
>     If you had a choice of three people you could live with 
> from any of Misty's books, who would they be and why? (Doesn't that 
> sound like a question from an English exam! ugh. Sorry. Duck flames 
> from fellow over-stressed students). Ladies, stop drooling over the 
> keyboard. *Live* with, not have a *fling* with. Same goes for you 
> gentlemen! Or which series you would like to live in.
(snip)

Hmmm.... tough question. Very tough question. I'd have to also start with 
Savil -- I _like_ her/identify with her and generally think she'd be a 
neat person to have around. As nifty a person as Vanyel is in the books, 
he wouldn't make the cut, I'm afraid -- I couldn't take the moodiness & 
depression. Skif (from Arrows, not MW) would be on the list too -- 
granted, the pranks etc might start to get on my nerves after a while, 
but they're never malicious, and Skif is a very nice person down inside 
(duh -- he _is_ a Herald, after all). I like people who are interesting/ 
amusing/unpredictable -- makes life more fun -- just as long as they are 
also folks you can trust. Third, but by no means last, would be Kerowyn. 
(Ok, so I really like sarcastic people. So sue me.) She's had a 
fascinating life, is good company and a trustworthy friend, and will 
always be honest. (It's always nice to have a friend around where, if you 
ask, "Does this (blank) make me look (blank)?" you know you'll get an 
honest answer.) <g>

So, those are my three. Anybody else?

Becky


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With my luck, the entrance exam to Heaven will have logarithms on it.



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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:36:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Mary Temple <noxcat-+AT+-eden.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Misty Co-Authors
Message-ID: <199603070136.TAA27246-+AT+-natashya.eden.com>

At 07:42 PM 03/06/96 GMT, you wrote:
>	AFAIK, then, it's called Rediscovery. I know all the titles of 
>the Darkover books by heart, but I don't know the one that's co-authored! 
>Feh. Anyway, IIRC, its called Rediscovery. I'll look up the other one 
>after school...me-+AT+-...oh, never mind. 
>
>
>*****LADY JAGUAR*****
>Leader of the Cat People
>Lady in Green
>LGMCB, DHTBB
>"The mice may have the right
>but the cat has the claws."
>*********************
>
Uhm, is it just me or did this get posted three times? This last mail check,
I've gotten several messages twice, so I'm curious. (Nothing personal, Jaguar.)

NoxCat (who is not only a member of Clan Kerr on BOTH sides of her family,
but is also descended from Charlemagne thru the Dukes of Lorraine, and is
still getting a big kick <and BIG laugh> out of it!)

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Mary Temple                              I am the cat who walks by Himself,
NoxCat           <noxcat-+AT+-eden.com>         and all places are alike to me.
Catriona Rowley                                           - Rudyard Kipling


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:01:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: YKYBRTMMLW.. (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960306175521.8526B-100000-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>

	Well, a while ago, Gyrfalcon (I think) started the YKYBRTMMLW... 
and everyone else joined in, and I collected all the ideas. They might be 
helpful in your list of reading too much Misty (wait, isn't that an 
oxymoron<g>)

	Lady Becky

The more that you read,
the more things you will know.
The more that you learn,
the more places you'll go.
        --Dr. Suess


=====================================================================

	*You Know You've Been Reading Too Much Misty Lackey When...*

1) You walk by a white horse and spend the next fifteen minutes trying to 
get it to talk to you.

2) You tell people reflexively to call you by your Herald name, and 
answer to it more readily than your mundane name.

3) You're checking out a cute guy when all of a sudden you realize he 
looks a lot like Van. You then abrubtly lose interest, because, after 
all, Van is/was shaych.

4) You're best friend says, "I'm only happy when I'm with him/her, even 
if it's just as a friend. I want to spend the rest of my life with 
him/her" You're first reaction is, as Medren says: "That's the classic 
reaction of a lifebond!"

5) You hide under your bed just in case there are any Aztec gods floating 
around.

6) You carry feathers around in you purse.

7) You talk to yourself, then explain it isn't you, it's your horse your 
talking to.

8) You think angry thoughts at someone.

9) You start a three week old conversation from scratch because it just 
came to mind.

10) You continue the conversation, because you just thought the same thing.

11) You and your lunch buddies discuss who they would rather wake up 
with, Kris or Vanyel.

12) You use Tayledras or Shin'a'in words in normal conversation and 
people look at you wondering what you are talking about. Or else you have 
to consciously refrain from saying them when they are the first thing 
that comes to mind.

13) You get hurt and ask for a Healer instead of a doctor.

14) You go to San Fransisco and actually look for Eric, Kory, and Beth 
while wandering around the city.

15) The weatherman says it's going to be misty tonight and you go out and 
look for her.

16) Every action is preceeded by the thought, "What would Misty think if 
she saw mw doing this."

17) One black dog, one white cat; bith named Skandranon.

18) You keep trying to mindspeak people, thinking that if Misty says so, 
it must be true.

19) You look sidelong at all Miatas, thinking they might be Elvensteeds.

20) You say, "If nothing but raw meat is good enough for gryphons, then 
it's good enough for me and my family."

21) You never, ever clean up the house. When people ask, you say, "Our 
little friends the hertasi will do it for us."

22) You establish a Vale in your back yard, fill it with tropical plants 
then wonder why they're all dead by mid-December.

23) There's a huge platform in yor back yard, and there's always a dead 
antelope on it. When queried, you always say, "That there's mah gryphon 
feeder."

24) Whenever someone asks you a question, you start looking for a 
page-reference.

25) You're watching TV late at night and catch yourself thinking that the 
Lone Ranger has a nice Companion.

26) You catch yourself looking for colored ribbon-knots on the shoulders 
of the street musicians.

27) You hear someone being derided as a "lackey" and take five minutes to 
figure out that it was meant as an insult.

28) You're dealing with new users, and start telling yourself, "Ground 
boy, ground and center."

29) You seriously consider buying one of those funky Companion models 
they sell in Firebird catalogs.

30) You wear a Tempest t-shirt to work, and attempt to explain whar 
exactly Celtic Rock is.

31) You look at your CD selection and realize that most of your favorite 
stuff is Misty related.

32) You look at your bookshelf and find that Misty has taken over an 
entire shelf, doublestacked, and finally surpassed McCaffrey.

33) You desperately wish that Misty would come out with a series of 
Valdemar related Computer games, like Ray Feist did with his Universe. 

34) You think this list is pointless, because you can never read too much 
Misty, and go immediately to your shrine and pray to her that she will 
forgive these blasphemous fools, they know not what they do!


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:07:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Dark Shadows (Was Di Tregarde)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960306180406.8526C-100000-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>

On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Stormcloud wrote:

> > On Thu, 29 Feb 1996 TSALE-+AT+-ups.edu wrote:
> > 
> > > books at all.  Not to mention Andre. *pantpant* I heartily second the 
> > > commetn that we need more sexy vampires....anyone watch Forever Knight? :)
> > > 
> > > tayla
> > > 
> >     Yes, I have heard of Forever Knight, but don't watch it much. 
> > My sister is a complete devotee to it though. There's even a Forever 
> > Knight mailing list that she subscribes to. Vampire show that I _really_ 
> > loved was the newer version of Dark Shadows. Then stupid icky television 
> > executives cancelled it! I never found out if Victoria (I think) was 
> > hung! I loved that show!
> > 
> >     Lady Becky
> <sig snipping again> 
> 
>     I love both versions of Dark Shadows, although the older one 
> seems to drag a little more because they had to cliffhang every half 
> hour instead of every hour like the new one.  But the new one, if I 
> remember correctly, stuck fairly close to the original.  (Please, no 
> one flame me if I'm wrong-- it's been a _long_ time since I saw the 
> new one, and I haven't seen all of the old one yet.)  Do you get the 
> Sci-fi channel?  It's on every day.
> 
> -+AT+->---                                   
> Stormcloud                              In the name
	
	We do have Sci-Fi, but I never knew Dark Shadows was on there. 
What time? BTW, does anybody know if in the new Dark Shadows what 
happened to Victoria, they did stop the series w/ a noose around her neck.
It's probably on when I'm still at school, or at dance class, or at piano 
lessons, or at church, or at rehearsals, or........

	Lady Becky

The more that you read,
the more things you will know.
The more that you learn,
the more places you'll go.
        --Dr. Suess




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Date: 06 Mar 96 21:06:19 EST
From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>
To: M-L mailing list <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: People we'd like to meet
Message-ID: <960307020618_102744.2515_GHT38-4-+AT+-CompuServe.COM>

Rozie McN wrote:

.    If you had a choice of three people you could live with 
.from any of Misty's books, who would they be and why? (Doesn't that 
.sound like a question from an English exam! ugh. Sorry. Duck flames 
.from fellow over-stressed students). Ladies, stop drooling over the 
.keyboard. *Live* with, not have a *fling* with. Same goes for you 
.gentlemen! Or which series you would like to live in.

Hokay, I'll bite.

1. KEROWYN.  Why?  Because I think at least he's the coolest female Velgarath
character Misty's done.  If she was a real person, she'd sure be interesting to
talk to... although if she was a real person, she probably would have *nothing*
to do with me. :) She probably could teach me a thing or five thousand about
swords, though... 

2. VANYEL (ObChoice). I mean, who wouldn't.  

3. I'd have to say.... NITHCNHNAL (NICTHANANERL?) Oh, that black elf guy from
the Bard's Tale books (don't have the books with me, so I mispelled the name on
purpose).  He seems like a great master to study music under.  If I could pick
his bardic brain, I'd love to find out more about music!

I'd have to say that I would enjoy living in the Bard's Tale series.  While it
has no Kerowyn, Bards are up my alley more than sexy swordmaidens.  Being not a
(good) swordsman and more of a good musician than anything else, I'd feel it
would be great.

IMHO's all around this message. (That's In My Humble Opinion, Tammy :> )

Zha'hai'allav'a!
                                                                  
======================== Rynath (OIB) / Jake =====================
      "How could it?" Tom asked.  "How could *anything* alter 
                        reality for only $9.95?"
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Date: 06 Mar 96 21:06:21 EST
From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>
To: M-L mailing list <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Kerowyn (was RE: Hunks)
Message-ID: <960307020621_102744.2515_GHT38-5-+AT+-CompuServe.COM>

Morticia wrote...

.PS And I have a lot of respect for any guy who'd find Kerowyn interesting.
. Takes guts.

Why?  Because she's an aggressive female?

I like her best out of all the (Velgarath series) main women... Elspeth is
bratty, Tarma is SwordSworn, Savil was old, Talia was... well, Talia (and I
didn't like her picture)... Nyara was a cat.... (I know I'm forgetting some but
since they don't come to mind, they must have not been too alluring anyway).
She's KEROWYN.  Seems like the kind of person who goes right after what she
wants.  Mmmmmmmmm.

Outside of Velgarath, I'd have to say two words. DI TREGARDE <pant pant>!!!!! <-
5! (sorry again)

Zha'hai'allav'a!
                                                                  
======================== Rynath (OIB) / Jake =====================
      "How could it?" Tom asked.  "How could *anything* alter 
                        reality for only $9.95?"
======================102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com =================


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Date: 06 Mar 96 21:06:14 EST
From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>
To: M-L mailing list <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Brad Pitttttt?  Bleeech!
Message-ID: <960307020613_102744.2515_GHT38-2-+AT+-CompuServe.COM>

Morticia wrote:

.Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote: >  > > Tue, 5 Mar 1996 .08:50:54 GMT
.> > 
.> > Tayla said "Yummmmm. . .  Ok, here's the real question....Who's 
.> > would you go for, Darkwind or Firesong? (Who else hunky can we 
.> > discuss?)"
.> > 
.> >     I must admit to having a weakness for Darkwind, although I 
.> > wouldn't say not to Skif (drat, he's taken!).
.> >     To be a bit cliche, I must admit that Interview with a Vampire 
.> > had some major hunk-a-licious guys in it. Most notedly Brad Pitt 
> > (bite my neck, baby *drool*)

I fail to see the big huge drooling that goes along with Brad Pitt.  Being a SSG
(that's Single Straight Guy) I just don't know *what* it is about the Pittster
that makes many women's legs turn to pudding and causes them to pant
uncontrollably.  He wasn't *that* great in Interview...  although he *was*
better than the back cover picture on the first paperback edition of Interview.
<shudder> Even thinking about that cover gives me bad dreams.

ObMisty: There seems to be no vampires in Valdemar, so Brad Pitt won't play one
of those.  I always figured movie casting this way:

Imagine it's finally here--someone submitted a screenplay for the LHM books.

Studio executives cast a big action hero as Vanyel.  I mean, like Jean Claude
Van Damme.  Play along with me before you flame.  This way, all the people who
like action films will go see it because it has Van Damme, and all the
Misty/Fantasy fans will see it just to see how *bad* it is.  :)  Now, you may
not like it, but it works! 

And the pressing question out of all of this is... WHO WOULD PLAY KEROWYN?

Zha'hai'allav'a!
                                                                  
======================== Rynath (OIB) / Jake =====================
      "How could it?" Tom asked.  "How could *anything* alter 
                        reality for only $9.95?"
======================102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com =================


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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:21:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: NEWBIE
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960306181745.8526D-100000-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>

On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, BUCKLEY B wrote:

> 	Yippeee! More people! The more the merrier! Welcome Brenda, what 
> books have you read so far? Don't let all of our craziness and hysteria 
> scare you away, we really are nice people, except of course to TMIW!
> 
> 	Lady Becky
> 
> 
>
> Dear Lady Becky,
> 
> I've read the Herald Mage trilogy, Vows and Honour and am beginning 
> the Arrows trilogy.
> I'll probably read them all, then read them again so that I can get a 
> grip of them properly and really appreciate them.
> On a first reading, I tend to get carried away by the flood.
> 
> 
> I will read and return, many thanks,
> 
> Brenda
> 
	Me too! In all the books she writes, you can always read them 
many times without becoming bored. I think I read all of them at least 
once a every couple of months. Since being on this list, even more 
because I'm always looking stuff up for reference. I really do use Misty 
books more than my school books, guess it shows where my priorities lie!

	Lady Becky

The more that you read,
the more things you will know.
The more that you learn,
the more places you'll go.
        --Dr. Suess




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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:26:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:Griffin(was-Why Wings?)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960306182439.8526E-100000-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 Soljan-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> > P.S. Anybody a fan of Griffin, you know that character that has the 
> >firestarting ability. He was my favorite minor character in the Heralds 
> >of Valdemar series.
> 
> 
> I liked Griffin a lot also.  I kinda wish he showed up more in the later
> books.   I thought that he would have showed up later and show us what his
> fire starting was good for.  Oh,  well.
> 
> Soljan :-)
> 
	He did, remember in the battle with the icky nasty demons, that 
went *poof* into piles of smoke by Griffin? That was about it though, I 
really liked Griffin as well, I wish he would have been more of a min 
character. He had such potential to be, because it was an abnornal gift.

	Lady Becky

The more that you read,
the more things you will know.
The more that you learn,
the more places you'll go.
        --Dr. Suess




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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:34:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Pre- Vows and Honors
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960306183241.8526G-100000-+AT+-iforge.valleynet.com>

On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Kerry Mealing wrote:

> Catherine wrote:
> > I have copies of all the "Sword and Sorceress" series.  I am not prepared 
> > to donate them, but I am prepared to copy the first Tarma & Kethry story 
> > and send it to someone who can then pass it on.  If the books are out of 
> > print, I believe that this action does not involve a breach of 
> > copyright.  Also, I don't know overseas law, but in Australia, you are 
> > permitted under copyright law to copy from a book either 10% or one 
> > chapter, whichever is the greater.  Under those circumstances, I think it 
> > would be okay (legally speaking) to copy _one_ story from S&S (one story 
> > could be considered one chapter.)
> 
> I'm not by any means criticising or trying to put you off doing this,
> but (as a law degree'd person trying vainly to remember intellectual 
> propertyright law from a year ago), I'm pretty sure that the above only
> applies for study purposes. And also I suspect in a collection of short
> stories, where copyright is held on each story by a different author,
> each story/chapter is considered one entity. As such, for -study- purposes
> you could copy 10% of the story.. I think.. Free brainstormings and ya
> get what you pay for. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Kerry.. <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>

	Hmmmmm, well, what if I promised to study it *real* hard, and do 
my English report on it. That would be considered study purposes, and 
we're even doing a short story unit in English right now! And well, if I 
just *happen* to be desperately drooling for a copy, that's just coincidence!
	
	Lady Becky

The more that you read,
the more things you will know.
The more that you learn,
the more places you'll go.
        --Dr. Suess




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