MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 403 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Out Of Print - Copyright Ethics (fwd) by maildrop-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk (Markus Weber) 2) Re: Charliss and the Empire by maildrop-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk (Markus Weber) 3) Re: Grove-born by maildrop-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk (Markus Weber) 4) copyright by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 5) Re: More Acronyms by STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> 6) Re: Kerowyn (was RE: Hunks) by STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> 7) Re: acronyms by STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> 8) Re: Companions + nodes by "deanca" 9) Re: Nother Newbie by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 10) Re: Heather Alexander (was Re: Ten Ways...) by "deanca" 11) Re: IIRC????? by STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> 12) acronyms, was RE: Copyright ethics and other fun stuff by Tammy Harris 13) Hambly/Cherryh (was Re:Dark Shadows) by Birgit Hanel 14) Re: Pre- Vows and Honors by Marissa K Lingen 15) Re: Hunky immortals / Alberich Story. by Marissa K Lingen 16) Re: Nother Newbie by Marissa K Lingen 17) Re: Misty co authors by Marissa K Lingen 18) Re: Kerowyn by Priest 19) Re: Talia? by Wallace-+AT+-online.knoxnews.com 20) Re: Hunks by CHONNI 21) RE: Copyright ethics and other fun stuff by "deanca" 22) Re: Nother Newbie by "deanca" 23) Re: Talia? by SHE WHO THINKS GEORGE COOPER IS THE PERFECT MAN 24) Re: Nother Newbie by The Master of Karma 25) Re: Nother Newbie by The Master of Karma 26) Re: Yet Another Newbie by The Master of Karma 27) Re: Companions + nodes by The Master of Karma 28) Re: Brad Pitttttt? Bleeech! by "those little weenies, playing their little weenie games" 29) Re: Out Of Print - Copyright Ethics (fwd) by The Master of Karma 30) Re: Talia? by Tensen 31) Re: Misty Co-Authors by Adrienne York 32) Re: Nother Newbie by Adrienne York ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:29:50 GMT From: maildrop-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk (Markus Weber) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Out Of Print - Copyright Ethics (fwd) Message-ID: <31400b89.228263175-+AT+-doorstop> >Your -own- private use I'd warrant, not for redistribution (even without >profit) to other people for their private use.. Yes, your very own private and personal use. Show or give it to somebody else and you might be in trouble... :-) Cheers -Markus --- Markus Weber hubby-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk 101530.10-+AT+-compuserve.com PGP key available: send email to "hubby-pgp-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk" Prune juice. A warrior's drink. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:50:12 GMT From: maildrop-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk (Markus Weber) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Charliss and the Empire Message-ID: <31401cad.232651495-+AT+-doorstop> On Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:40:13 GMT, you wrote: >Kenneth wrote that one of his favorite characters is Charliss. The whole concept of Charliss (and the Empire, for that matter) is interesting. He's evil, but not EVIL evil. The Alliance is made up for the most part(?) of Urtho's people, and the Empire of what's left of Ma'ar's folk (damn, these ' get in the way ). Who knows, maybe there will be peace after all... >Weelll, favorite isn't the word I'd pick, but I do think that Charliss >is interesting. And I genuinely like Tremane. I cannot really accept the >notion that he is permanently blotched by one act of expediency. (Or >Tarma would be in the same boat!) I think Tremane won't be really popular in SB, but he's coming around fast. Who knows, maybe he'll be the next Emperor after all? >I want to see what is happening in the Empire with all of the ripple effect >of the Mage Storms. (Of course, if Misty puts everything I want to see >into Storm Breaking it's gonna be 500 pages long... :)) I should think that >even the outer ripples must be having some effect on a society that relies >so heavily on its magepower. 500 pages? That won't last a single night :-) Come to think of it, maybe Misty will torture us by resolving what's happening in the Empire in a future trilogy... The Storm trilogy certainly leaves her a lot of openings for new books :-) Cheers -Markus --- Markus Weber hubby-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk 101530.10-+AT+-compuserve.com PGP key available: send email to "hubby-pgp-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk" Prune juice. A warrior's drink. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:52:07 GMT From: maildrop-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk (Markus Weber) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grove-born Message-ID: <31401f3f.233309811-+AT+-doorstop> Maybe the Companions have a choice? Cheers -Markus --- Markus Weber hubby-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk 101530.10-+AT+-compuserve.com PGP key available: send email to "hubby-pgp-+AT+-kinky.demon.co.uk" Prune juice. A warrior's drink. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:55:48 GMT From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey Subject: copyright Message-ID: <9603081255.AB07651-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Actually, all this copyright talk has become a lot more interesting because I just said I'd write 1000 words on the legal implications of the Internet :) M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:22:56 GMT From: STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: More Acronyms Message-ID: <1FB4EB50382-+AT+-EXCALIBUR.MMU.AC.UK> As promised the More Acronyms list Lord Jason [OIB] >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 00:23:51 GMT >Reply-to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk >From: Kim Hatton >To: 95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk >Subject: More Acronyms >I know we have really finished this thread, but I found a few which might be >relevant given the threads over the last few weeks: >AWGTHTGTTA? - Are We Going To Have To Go Through This Again? >CYA - Cover Your A** (Ascii ?) >DILLIGAFF - Do I Look Like I Give a Flying (Ummmm) Figment >DLG - Devilish Little Grin >EOD - End Of Discussion >EOL - End Of Lecture >GD&R - Grin, Duck & Run >GIWIST - Gee I Wish I'd Said That >DNPM - Darn Near P***ed Myself >JABBA - Just Another Brain Boggling Acronym >Kim Hatton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:31:18 GMT From: STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kerowyn (was RE: Hunks) Message-ID: <1FB723C47BE-+AT+-EXCALIBUR.MMU.AC.UK> > Harumph. (in retaliation): ANDRE LeBREL!!!!! >*****LADY JAGUAR***** >Leader of the Cat People >Lady in Green Jaguar calm yourself, I know you've Bi-located but you still have Gyrfalcon and his MIW[ Don't even think it Gyr.] to defeat yet. Concentrate on that for now and then start thinking of Andre. Lord Jason[OIB] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:21:24 GMT From: STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: acronyms Message-ID: <1FB47A717D8-+AT+-EXCALIBUR.MMU.AC.UK> To all the Newbies welcome and here is a list of the acronyms most used on this list, More Acronyms follows behind this one:- I see you shiver with antici....pation Lord Jason[OIB] >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:43:30 GMT >Reply-to: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk >From: Kim Hatton >To: 95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk >Subject: Re: acronyms At 05:57 PM 6/01/96 GMT, Meg wrote: >someone asked for a list of acronyms to be posted. i don't know them all, but >since no one else seems to have done it, i'll do the common ones. >IIRC: if i remember correctly >ROTFL: rolling on the floor laughing >LMFAO: laughing my (figure it out for yourself) ass off. >IMO: in my opinion >IMHO: in my humble opinion > >these are the only ones i can think of right now. anyone else? > A few others: FUBAR : F***** up beyond all recognition AAMOF : As a matter of fact BAK : Back at Keyboard BBFN: Bye Bye for Now BTW: By the way CMIIW: Correct me if I'm wrong FITB: Fill in the Blank FYA: For your amusement HHOK: Ha Ha only kidding HOUEW Hanging on your every word IAC In any case IKWUM I know what you mean IOW In other words KWIM Know what I mean LOL Laughing out loud OIC Oh I see OTOH On the other hand PTMM Please tell me more TIC Tongue in Cheek TNTL Trying not to laugh TTKSF Trying to keep a straight face Kim Hatton klhatton-+AT+-ozemail.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 08:08:23 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companions + nodes Message-ID: <199603081310.IAA00654-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > The question is rather -- why isn't everybodies hair white? Very WELL sheilded heartstone, perhaps... -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:22:00 GMT From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nother Newbie Message-ID: <9603081322.AA09274-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Markus said: > I'll second that... I could finish her Pern books only, and even they > were ruined for me ever since Anne began dabbling in technology. I > hope Misty stays clear of technology *casting a wary eye at Natoli* Amen, brother. (To coin a phrase.) The Pern books didn't need technology, and I never managed to figure out why Anne felt they did. Basically she ruined a whole universe she'd been building up for twenty years -- silly woman. Mel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 08:15:41 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Heather Alexander (was Re: Ten Ways...) Message-ID: <199603081317.IAA00668-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > >> And she does sound good just speaking. There's a track on "Wanderlust" > >> that's called "ContrariDance" where there's no music, just Heather > >> telling a story. > >No, "An Scael " is the track with the story, and Contraridance is the > >track following it, which is that same story told through music. > > Is it? On the tape, it's a little hard to tell which track is which > (lots of them seem to run together) on the tape. I assumed that > the spoken was "Contraridance" since somewhere the last line she > says the word. Nah, I have the CD. It's easier to tell. :) -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:17:27 GMT From: STOKES J <95662014-+AT+-mmu.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: IIRC????? Message-ID: <1FB36B54370-+AT+-EXCALIBUR.MMU.AC.UK> If I Remember Correctly Does that answer your question I see you shiver with antici......pation Lord Jason[OIB] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 09:16:12 -0500 From: Tammy Harris To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: acronyms, was RE: Copyright ethics and other fun stuff Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 8, Rynath wrote: > FOR FREE BARD ORIOLE: FWIW = From what I remember > (AND IIRC = If I remember correctly) Oh, Ryyyynaaaath, FWIW = for what it's worth (obviously, you don't RC!) : ) Free Bard Oriole, Other common acronyms are: IMHO/IMNSHO = in my (not so) humble opinion BTW = by the way OTOH = on the other hand AIR = as I recall/remember AFAIK = as far as I know ObMisty = obligatory reference to Misty = grin TTFN = ta ta for now TTYL = talk to you later ROTFLMAO = rolling on the floor, laughing my (Pat Buchanan) off I hope some of this helps. Tammy "It's time to ask yourself what you believe" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:33:51 +0100 (CET) From: Birgit Hanel To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Hambly/Cherryh (was Re:Dark Shadows) Message-ID: I've read the Darwath-trilogy and the 1st and 3rd book of the Darkmage trilogy and I must say I was fairly annoyed with Hambly. Doesn't she ever change the plotlines or characters? In both trilogies it's this young this-world woman who has problems in dealing with other people, the elderly other-world mage who is something of an outsider among his own people and the young fellow who is somehow opposed to both of them or at least critical. As for Gil, I think as a character she isn't even 2-dimensional, much MUCH worse than (yes, again) Elspeth, cold and... self-centered? egocentric? sorry the proper word just refused to come to my mind. About Cherryh: "Rimrunner" was one of the most haunting SF-books I ever read, just brilliant and haunting. Certainly not a "comfort book". But worth reading. I certainly wouldn't want to live in *that* universe (Star Trek looked like soap opera in comparison to it). Try one of her books about the Chanur: really cool cat people! Makes me want to meet them (though I didn't really care about Nyara, to put an ObMisty in, finally). Comments welcome (I think). I don't know *any* of the filk that is mentioned here, btw. Maybe I'm going to order it from Firebird one day when I have really *lots* of money to spend freely, it surely sounds interesting. So now, come on and flame me, if you want, but I'm off for the weekend, anyway. See y'all again on monday. Khenta* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:30:03 -0600 (CST) From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Pre- Vows and Honors Message-ID: <199603081530.JAA17837-+AT+-hermes.gac.edu> Okay, guys, was nobody listening to Kerry? The point is not getting around the law, because I doubt that any of us would be caught at that sort of thing. The point is that doing this is just plain not right. There are lots of cool things in life that work out that way, and you have to make your choices. Which is more important to you: doing the right thing in terms of Misty and her work or getting to read it because you *didn't* do the right thing? Sorry if this offends anybody, but this letter-of-the-law stuff seems a bit pointless to me. --Morticia > > > [My ramblings about copyright snipped.] > > > > Becky wrote: > > > Hmmmmm, well, what if I promised to study it *real* hard, and do > > > my English report on it. That would be considered study purposes, and > > > we're even doing a short story unit in English right now! And well, if I > > > just *happen* to be desperately drooling for a copy, that's just coincidence! > > > > If you only wanted to copy 10% of the short story, then yes.. :) > > > > Kerry. > > > Hmmm. . . What if 10 of the people with access to the story copy 10% > each, and send copies to all the people who haven't got it? ;) > > Zhai'helleva, > Troll-Lord Andros Sehal (AKA Alex Neilson) (al-+AT+-atcafe.com.au) > > "Oook" - The Librarian. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:55:21 -0600 (CST) From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hunky immortals / Alberich Story. Message-ID: <199603081555.JAA18914-+AT+-hermes.gac.edu> Whoa. Who said most big countries have counterparts in Velgarth? What do you think Valdemar's counterpart is? I honestly don't see huge parallels...maybe I'm wrong here. Some authors (Piers Anthony Bio of a Space Tyrant case in point) beat you over the head with it: THIS COUNTRY REPRESENTS ENGLAND AND THIS ONE IS JAPAN AND...but Misty doesn't do that. IMnever-HO. --Morticia > > Kerry wrote: > > Tammy wrote: > > > Jaguar wrote: > > > > Kerry wrote: > > > > > D'you love me? *grin* > > > > > > > > Dunno. Are you dead, fictional, taken, or gay? If so, we probably do! > > > > > > Worse--he's in Australia!! (trust me--LDR's are frustrating!) > > > > Some people are just sooo hard to please.. > > So if I were, say, a fictional Aussie gay vampire in a relationship, > > that'd be the ultimate in unattainability.. Cool.. > > Hmmm, 1 out of 5 ain't ... is only 20%. > > Which one? And JFYI, I > flip over Aussies. :) > > ObMisty: If most of the big countries have counterparts in Velgarth, > where's Australia? For that matter, where's the US? > > *****LADY JAGUAR***** > Leader of the Cat People > Lady in Green > LGMCB, DHTBB > "The mice may have the right > but the cat has the claws." > ********************* > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:08:20 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nother Newbie Message-ID: <199603081708.LAA03013-+AT+-poblano.gac.edu> Somebody wrote (Markus didn't say who) that Anne McCaffrey had been pretty bad lately, and Markus wrote: "I'll second that... I could finish her Pern books only, and even they were ruined for me ever since Anne began dabbling in technology. I hope Misty stays clear of technology *casting a wary eye at Natoli*..." I'm sorry, but I don't see the inherent problem with technology. I don't think it's technology that ruined Anne McCaffrey's latest books--I just think they're dull as all hells. I think she's trying to write stuff just to get it written and get it sold, and that she should step back, relax, and take a break until she can just write because she wants to and she has good ideas. (And some more creative titles? Gah, the books in the series about the Rowan...geesh, I could understand maybe _The Rowan_ and _Damia_, but there *had* to be *something* she could have named the third one besides _Damia's Children_!) I wouldn't be completely averse to seeing more technology in Velgarth--if you can have a pre-feudal society, why not ever an Industrial Revolution of sorts? I'm not proposing that Havens be torn down to build a strip mall--far from it. I think that Velgarth could do technology the way it *ought* to be done, because of the moral aspects of their system of government. I'd like to see Misty play with the magic/technology interaction. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but TECHNOLOGY IS NOT EVIL. Laissez-faire. --Morticia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:21:01 -0600 From: Marissa K Lingen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Misty co authors Message-ID: <199603081721.LAA03054-+AT+-poblano.gac.edu> Rynath (OIB) / Jake said: (on the subject of tying in fantasy and "sci-fi" [I hate that term]) "I mean an urban fantasy is one thing. And a high fantasy is another. And science fiction is another thing. It just reminds me of (ugh) Christopher Stasheff's books. It seems like the author just can't make up his/her mind whether he/she wants to write one or the other or the other." Okay, so what makes the combination so inherently the fruits of the Devil? Personally, I consider what I read (and what I write) to be Speculative Fiction. If it's a bad book, it's a bad book, but it's not the combination of SF/urban fantasy/high fantasy that makes it bad. I mean, granted, it takes a better author to combine genres and do it *successfully* than it does to just have *one* set of rules, but good authors can do it. That's why some really good books are hard to classify as either SF or fantasy. There's a reason that they shelve them together, and it's not just that inept people can't tell the difference between the best of them! I see no reason why a well-written, well-plotted book with consistent premises can't combine science and magic. If the author has a neat idea, why shouldn't she/he do it that way? Julian May, case in point. Her seria with the Remillard family somewhere involved: there's time travel and psionics (rather than magic) and space travel and aliens. Fine. That makes it SF. But wait! There's also a race of "people" who remarkably resemble elves. And some of their "technologies" are sufficiently inexplicable to classify as magic in my book. So which is it? I'll tell you what it is: it's cool, and I don't care about stiff classifications! --Morticia the Nearly-Gourmand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:05:16 -0800 (PST) From: Priest To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kerowyn Message-ID: I noticed what Marissa said, and I have to agree. Most guys are scared of women who know what they want and go after it. I'm not trying to sound good or anything here, but that's the kind of partner that I want. Someone who knows what they want, and isn't afraid to go out and get it. I know too many people, male and female, who waste their lives away thinking about what they wish they had, instead of making those wishes come true. Priest -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-patw-+AT+-clark.edu=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- System messages we don't want to see: Keyboard not connected. Press F1 to continue. Enter any 23 digit prime number to continue -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:37:12 EDT From: Wallace-+AT+-online.knoxnews.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Talia? Message-ID: <9603081741.AA23216-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> ME>AFAIK, it certainly didn't happen during the Winds trilogy, nor is it ME>actually shown as happening during the Storms trilogy...if Misty's ME>actually written a proper account of it, it must be a short story ME>somewhere...have you checked all MZB's Sword & Sorceress books? Actually, it didn't happen - not in the books. IIRC, it seemed to me it took place sometime between the Arrows and the Winds trilogies. In other words, it was a reference, not a story. One of those things a writer will refer to as having happened, even tho they don't actually write it out. Perhaps I'm mistaken, if so, apologies, but I think I've read most all the books and/or stories Misty's written, and I don't recall this particular incident being in them. Candace ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) From: CHONNI To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hunks Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Marissa K Lingen wrote: > Okay, write me down as officially clueless. I hate Brad Pitt. I don't > know why women find him attractive (or men, for that matter, if they do). > If anyone was casting *any* of Misty's books and tried to cast Brad Pitt, > I would have to pound that individual into tiny little pieces and make > haggis of him/her. (ewww...and I'm not even Scottish!) > Skif was cool early on, but Dirk is still the best Misty guy ever. > --Morticia > PS And I have a lot of respect for any guy who'd find Kerowyn interesting. > Takes guts. Yea!!! Someone else who thinks Brad Pitt is "less than adorable". Still, I could imagine him as say... Mornelithe? --------------------------------------- Herald Chonni Brightwolf who's too lazy to come up with a sig ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:46:58 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: RE: Copyright ethics and other fun stuff Message-ID: <199603081849.NAA01696-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > FOR FREE BARD ORIOLE: FWIW = From what I remember > (AND IIRC = If I remember correctly) thank you. -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:50:19 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nother Newbie Message-ID: <199603081852.NAA01711-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > I'll second that... I could finish her Pern books only, and even they > were ruined for me ever since Anne began dabbling in technology. I > hope Misty stays clear of technology *casting a wary eye at Natoli* Well, one set of books that Anne Mcaffrey has written that is _wonderful_ is the Talent series. "The Rowan", "Damia", "Damia's Children", "Lyon's Pride"-these are all totally cool books! I love them. If any of you haven't read them, then do. They are well worth the time. -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:57:21 -0600 (CST) From: SHE WHO THINKS GEORGE COOPER IS THE PERFECT MAN To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Talia? Message-ID: <960308125721.2eb6b-+AT+-tiny.computing.csbsju.edu> Okay, time to throw in my opinion. If I recall... Elspeth told Skif about Talia becoming a Sun-Priestess in WoChange. SKif was getting ready to go look for Nyara (sp?) and Elspeth was giving him the gossip via Gwyna via Rolan. Please correct me if I'm wrong..... My freind is backing me on this, so two of us are wating to be corrected. :) Tiana ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:56:16 -0500 (EST) From: The Master of Karma To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nother Newbie Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > From: The Master of Karma > >I recommend Patricia C. Wrede, and Stefen Brust. Wrede is just plain > >brilliant and Brust is the best intrique writer I have ever run across. > > Yes! Brust is _very_ good. At the moment, I'm in the middle of > _Orca_, his newest book. I love his Vlad Taltos books. Try > as I might, I can't get into _The Phoenix Guards_ though. Hmmm. Well, to everyone else on the list, don't let that stop you. I like the Phoenix Guards and Five Hundred Years After the best of all his books (with the possible exception of Yendi whence my fave character, "The Sorceress in Green.") Ken Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:21:18 -0500 (EST) From: The Master of Karma To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nother Newbie Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Elisa Shapiro wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Stormcloud wrote: > > > She did, but that was Rediscovery, set in MZB's Darkover world. Has > > she written anything with Anne McCaffrey? If not, I would like to > > see that! > > > > I wouldn't. Much as I love Anne McCaffrey, have you any of her latest > stuff? Both of the new ones I've read have been really bad. The Dolphin > Bell was horrible, and I didn't even finish Power Lines. I don't know > what happened to her, but I hope she snaps out of it soon. Just a word in defense of my fave Irish author: I think that she has been doing most of her best writing in the Lyon/Gwyn-Raven series. They are all excellent with one or two making the leap to sublime (I am thinking here of "Rowan" and "Pegasus in Flight." I personally thought that the first "Powers" book was pretty lame, anyway. And the Dolphin Bell isn't bad, just awfully pedestrian (although I love the part where the kid (forget his name) walks out after his mother goes off on him about staying away from the dolphins). Ken ObMisty: Does anyone here know if Misty actually has any cats? Has it ever shown up in a bio? Her characterization of Astra reads like the cute ideas of someone who has never really watched a cat for a long time. Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:26:28 -0500 (EST) From: The Master of Karma To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Yet Another Newbie Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996 5INT627-+AT+-sc.maricopa.edu wrote: > Misty being one of my favorite authors. I also like Mickey > Zucker Reichert, Raymond Feist, David Eddings, Anne McCaffery, > Tom Clancy(AKA God), David Drake, Dianne Duane, Elizabeth Moon, Oooh. Raymond Feist and David Eddings. I knew there were some authors missing from my faves list. =) Love those guys. I particularly love RF and Janny Wurtz collaboration for the Tsurunuanni novels. For those of you who like epic adventure and oriental culture, yougotta read them. they are "Daughter", "Servant", and "Mistress" "of the Empire." Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: The Master of Karma To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companions + nodes Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Markus Weber wrote: > >If Companions are white and blue-eyed, for the same reason that Mages and > >the Bond birds the of mages are white and blue-eyed: their use of node > >energies, why DIDN'T the area around Haven have constantly drained nodes? > >Between the Companions and the mages in training, where was all the energy > >coming from? Ummm. This is just a comment, but where did the idea spring up that companions coloration comes from the use of node energy? I think that the conversation between the Star-Eyed, Roald, and Tarma in Oathbreakers makes it fairly clear that the companions are colored the way they are by the design of whatever power created them. Besides, I don't remember any reference to the companions using node energy at all. Unless this is in Storm Rising (which I haven't read, and won't until it is in paperback and affordable). Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: "those little weenies, playing their little weenie games" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Brad Pitttttt? Bleeech! Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Tammy Harris wrote: > > Studio executives cast a big action hero as Vanyel. I mean, like Jean Claude > > Van Damme. Play along with me before you flame. This way, all the people who > > like action films will go see it because it has Van Damme, and all the > > Misty/Fantasy fans will see it just to see how *bad* it is. :) Now, you may > > not like it, but it works! > > Aaaaaaaaahh! God, no! Anything but that! I'd settle for Micheal > Praed, and I don't even know what he looks like!! Hopefully, Misty > would retain some control over casting, even if just veto-power. > > > And the pressing question out of all of this is... WHO WOULD PLAY KEROWYN? > > Even more pressing--who would Harrison Ford play?? > > Just MHO! > Tammy (snip) Why, Rolan, of course! Who else? Wouldn't you just _love_ to see that? The Kerowyn question is a good one -- maybe the actress from the original La Femme Nikita (not the American remake)? Becky ---------- With my luck, the entrance exam to Heaven will have logarithms on it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:50:59 -0500 (EST) From: The Master of Karma To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Out Of Print - Copyright Ethics (fwd) Message-ID: On 7, March 1996 Kerry Mealing wrote: [much snippage of stuff concerning the legality of copying copyrighted material and the reasons for not doing it.] I just have to give Kerry snaps for her courageous choice to defend the position of honor. Copyright infringement is "not good." So for everyone who is contemplating stealing from our beloved Misty: Naughty! Bad! Mustn't!" Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:13:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Tensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Talia? Message-ID: > > It happens during the Winds Tril. Elspeth is surprised/happy to hear > that Valdemar and Karse signed an alliance. And that Talia was made a > Sun-priestess to seal the alliance. They hear it through Gwena/Savil IIRC. > > But as always me-+AT+-school Books-+AT+-far.far.away > What, you decided the anime tapes were more imporatnt to put on your shelves than the Misty books?!? shame.. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:18:26 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Misty Co-Authors Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Marissa K Lingen wrote: > ObMisty: Has anybody got _The Eagle and the Nightingale_ now that it's out > in paperback? I'm wondering if I should...I'm trying to save money, but > it's *Misty*... > --Morticia > > i'd get it. i got it in hard back, 'cuz i was on a xmas spending spree, and i think it's great. i liked it better than the robin and the kestral, ecktually. _____________________________________________________________________________ L'enfant terrible ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu Grand Destinies lead to Grand Funerals. -Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Nother Newbie Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Elisa Shapiro wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Stormcloud wrote: > > > She did, but that was Rediscovery, set in MZB's Darkover world. Has > > she written anything with Anne McCaffrey? If not, I would like to > > see that! > > > > I wouldn't. Much as I love Anne McCaffrey, have you any of her latest > stuff? Both of the new ones I've read have been really bad. The Dolphin > Bell was horrible, and I didn't even finish Power Lines. I don't know > what happened to her, but I hope she snaps out of it soon. > hey! i liked Power lines (this shift key is almost broken). i didn't read Dolpin Bell, but i still liked the petaybee books. and misty and anne have already worked on a book together, the ship who searched. it was pretty good, too. _____________________________________________________________________________ L'enfant terrible ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu Grand Destinies lead to Grand Funerals. -Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 403 *********************************