MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 436 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Eric & Kory by jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com (Jeanne Hedge) 2) Re: Anime cast list by jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com (Jeanne Hedge) 3) Re: Random by "Stormcloud" 4) Order of reading books by "Stormcloud" 5) Re: Anime cast list by McCaffrey's White Dragon 6) Re: confirmed Silver Gryphon sighting in London by McCaffrey's White Dragon 7) Re: Eddings and Trilogies rant by Semca1-+AT+-aol.com 8) Re: ObMisty by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) 9) Re: Anime cast list by Gyrfalcon 10) Re: Random by Adrienne York 11) Re: Eric & Kory by Starlight-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu 12) Re:First Books by Adrienne York 13) Re: Order of reading books by Starlight-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu 14) Re: Series v. stand-alone by Mat Timmerman 15) Re: female relationships by Rosario Holsen-Baker 16) Re:First Books by Korendil 17) Re: Random by Korendil 18) Re: Dirk by Korendil 19) Re: Random (I think :) by Korendil 20) Re: Random by "SHE WHO WORSHIPS GEORGE, SILK, AND SKIF" 21) Re: Random by mortaine 22) Re: unsubscribing by SHORTFUZZY-+AT+-aol.com 23) Re: Master Cast List (2nd ed.) by "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> 24) Re: Stand-alones by "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> 25) Re: Series vs. Stand-Alones by "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:28:57 -0500 From: jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com (Jeanne Hedge) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Eric & Kory Message-ID: <9603252228.AA27804-+AT+-water.waterw.com> On March 20, Heather Watson asked: >And does anyone else think that series is currently very >*unresolved*? Kory's tossing all these fears about the future around, >and they're never dealt with. I'm still not convinced that Kory will >stay until Beth and Eric get old and die. My she'enedra felt the same >way, but a bunch of people at the QO Collegium at Dragoncon told us we >were crazy. > I think there's plenty that needs to be told in a third book, even if >Baen is getting bitchy and cancelling the series. First Diana, now >this. Sigh. I want to know more about that vision/premonition/whatever that Eric (?) had that showed Eric and Ria in the same hotel room together. Jeanne Hedge jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com ==================== 75512.1214-+AT+-compuserve.com "The truth is the one thing that nobody will believe." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) ============ http://www.accsyst.com/jhedge/main.htm ============ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:30:27 -0500 From: jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com (Jeanne Hedge) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Anime cast list Message-ID: <9603252230.AA27998-+AT+-water.waterw.com> On March 22, Stormcloud proposed: >Lady Jaguar asked: >> 3) Shall I begin one for Anime, too? >> >> *****LADY JAGUAR***** > > >I suppose since I brought it up, I could do it! >We haven't gotten many suggestions so far, though (most of them mine) >but here goes: > >Vanyel: Vampire Hunter D (minus that HAT!!!!!) >Firesong?: Malachite (Kunzite) >Tarma: A-ko >Kethry: B-ko >young Elspeth: C-ko >Darkwind: Tuxedo Mask (Tuxedo Kamen) with longer hair >older Elspeth: Sailor Moon >Selenay: Queen Serenity > >Anyone have any more, or are there any I forgot? > Just to get some more ideas on the table: Elspeth (adult) - Lufy (Gall Force) Hulda - B-ko (Project A-ko) Jeri - Linna Yamazaki (Bubblegum Crisis) Karal - Yusaku Godai (Maison Ikkoku) Keren - Priss Asagiri (Bubblegum Crisis) Kerowyn - Minako/Sailor Venus (Sailor Moon) Kris - Yuu (Marmalade Boy) Natoli - Kyoko Otonashi (Maison Ikkoku) Orthallen - Quincy (Bubblegum Crisis) Sherrill - Akane Tendou (Ranma 1/2) Skif (young) - Ataru Moroboshi (Urusei Yatsura) Solaris - Sylia Stingray (Bubblegum Crisis) Talia - Meiko (Marmalade Boy) Teren - Master (Kimagure Orange Road) Kethry - Miki (Marmalade Boy) Star-Eyed - Madoka Ayukawa (Kimagure Orange Road) Tarma - Kazumi Amano (Gunbuster) Savil - Mrs. Ichinose (Maison Ikkoku) Vanyel - Ashura (I think that's his name... the male lead in RG Veda) miscellaneous changelings - Ranma, Shampoo, Mousse, Ryouga, Genma (all from Ranma 1/2) Jeanne Hedge jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com ==================== 75512.1214-+AT+-compuserve.com "The truth is the one thing that nobody will believe." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) ============ http://www.accsyst.com/jhedge/main.htm ============ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:54:42 EST From: "Stormcloud" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Random Message-ID: <45425D49CF-+AT+-SIMCL.STJOHNS.EDU> Adrienne York wrote: > On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, aaron douglas bilodeau wrote: > >> I realize this doesn't bring any answers, and there are a great >> many questions I have myself (for example, the ruling monarch >> must be at least Chosen, if not a herald. Daren is Chosen, so >> why is he the Queen's consort and not the king? > > I think one gets to pick... as I recall, Shavri declined Consort status, > so she wasn't in line for the throne. Couldn't Daren decline King > status. It would make political sense, allaying the fears of those who > think treason is inheritable, even though Daren is a Herald. Shavri didn't MARRY Randi, that's why she wasn't legally a Consort. And she didn't marry him because she was trying to keep Jisa out of line for the throne as well. I don't think she was worried about having to take the throne herself, because she was lifebonded to Randi and would probably die when he went. She was more concerned for Jisa. >> What is an unbonded Choosing and what status does it confer on >> the chosen? I digress...) but the answers are nowhere to be >> found. Perhaps we will discover them later (sigh). >> Summerstorm > Perhaps an unbonded Choosing gets you entrance to the Collegium, but > doesn't make you a Herald permanently? There has to be some mechanism > for training people who just aren't as stupid, er, I mean > self-sacrificing as a Herald but are Gifted in Valdemar. They can't let > them roam around untrained forever, can they? Isn't an unbonded Choosing when the Herald is going to get Chosen by another Companion, like the MOC, whenever that Companion becomes available (i.e. the death of the old MO)? That's what I've always thought. Like when they expected Rolan to choose someone who was already a Herald, presumably that Herald would have had a light bond with his/ her Comp. -+AT+->--- Stormcloud In the name One in Black of the Moon Jenna, the Misty maniac I'll punish you! jwil3969-+AT+-simcl.stjohns.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:59:54 EST From: "Stormcloud" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Order of reading books Message-ID: <4558E05F66-+AT+-SIMCL.STJOHNS.EDU> Des Davies wrote: > Heyla all! > > First of all I'd like to say hello to all on the list. Hello! I've been lurking > on and off for about 3 weeks, mainly because I haven't had the time to reply. > Work you know! Hello!!!!! :) > On the topic of series vs. stand-alones, I tend to prefer those > books that > manage to be a bit of both. That is they form part of a series because they have > a theme that runs throughout several books, but each book in the series actually > completes a story in itself. Several books and series come to mind to illustrate > this. > > The Riftwar Saga and Empire books by Raymond Fiest. There are very definite > plots that run throughout each of the books in both these series - The Riftwar > and Mara's fight to restore her clan respectivily. However, each book also > manages to form a complete story in it's own right. Magician forms a story in > it's own right, as does Silverthorn. You could read them in any particular > order, although it's obviously better read them in the correct order. > > Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series is the same in this respect. Yes, you'd > lose a lot of info. about the history if read as separate books, but it is > possible. > > Of course, the Misty books also follow this format. Didn't someone mention > recently reading the LHM series in a completely random manner? That would be me! When I was 13, I read them: Price, Pawn, Promise. I have read them many MANY times again in their proper order and that first time has done nothing to adversely affect my enjoyment of them. Another set that is a series but can stand alone (well, there're only two books so far) are Tanya Huff's "Sing the Four Quarters" and "Fifth Quarter", which were both excellent. > On the other hand, it's almost impossible to read Eddings books in anything but > the correct order. And while I enjoyed the Belgariad, I found it annoying > because there was so much left unfinished at the end of each book. And Eddings > is not the only author that does this. In fact it's much more common to find > this format. TELL me about it!!!!!!!!! :) > Four winds, > SmokeHeart Nice name! :) -+AT+->--- Stormcloud In the name One in Black of the Moon Jenna, the Misty maniac I'll punish you! jwil3969-+AT+-simcl.stjohns.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:12:28 -0800 (PST) From: McCaffrey's White Dragon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Anime cast list Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Stormcloud wrote: > > 3) Shall I begin one for Anime, too? > > > > *****LADY JAGUAR***** > > > I suppose since I brought it up, I could do it! > We haven't gotten many suggestions so far, though (most of them mine) > but here goes: > > Vanyel: Vampire Hunter D (minus that HAT!!!!!) > Firesong?: Malachite (Kunzite) > Tarma: A-ko > Kethry: B-ko > young Elspeth: C-ko > Darkwind: Tuxedo Mask (Tuxedo Kamen) with longer hair > older Elspeth: Sailor Moon > Selenay: Queen Serenity > > Anyone have any more, or are there any I forgot? > How about that little Maruten guy from A-ko vs. Battle as Altra? ____________________ -==UDIC==- /\ Why is he talking \ McCaffrey's White Dragon a.k.a. Jake Gipple /LR\ to that White \

/ EU \ Coconut? \

< MM >-------------------> (360)887-4779 \ UE / Don't ask. / "Akigiyama levin bolts!!!!!" \RL/ Please don't ask / -Kethrey as played by B-ko \/___________________/ FRINK! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:03:29 -0500 From: Semca1-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Eddings and Trilogies rant Message-ID: <960325190328_454591516-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com> Lifebond. I haven't read the whole trilogy yet, but it's definately a lifebond. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:59:08 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ObMisty Message-ID: <199603260059.RAA21865-+AT+-usr5.primenet.com> At 12:51 AM 3/26/96 GMT, JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com wrote: >On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Kerry Mealing wrote: > >> *grin* I done a bad bad thing introducing the ObMisty idea. :) > >I'm fairly new to this list. Can someone please explain what the ObMisty >comments are? > >Julia > > It's just a shortened way of saying Obligatory Misty Content. Some people hate getting messages with nothing a bout Misty in them, so everybody has started putting an ObMisty in every post. Hope that helps. P.S. Yes, I know this is a Misty list, for those of you who were about to remind me. I'm not in the mood to be lectured this week, so please don't flame me. Anyone who does risks being turned into shrubbery, or worse, a completely NORMAL person! (Don't test me, I've been studiying "Lord of the Flies" in school, and I HATE that book! I'm in a REALLY bad mood at the moment!) #### Lady 'Reesa ######### Lady In Green ######### mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com #### Topiary-It's Green... It's all natural... It's a great way to disguise your enemies dead bodies!!!!!<--look 5! ########## VORKOSIGAN/NAISMITH IN 96...THE REAL SPLIT TICKET!########## ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:50:26 -0500 From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Anime cast list Message-ID: <31574D62.5AC1-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu> Jeanne Hedge wrote: > > On March 22, Stormcloud proposed: > >Lady Jaguar asked: > >> 3) Shall I begin one for Anime, too? > >> > >> *****LADY JAGUAR***** > > > > > >I suppose since I brought it up, I could do it! > >We haven't gotten many suggestions so far, though (most of them mine) > >but here goes: > > > >Vanyel: Vampire Hunter D (minus that HAT!!!!!) > >Firesong?: Malachite (Kunzite) > >Tarma: A-ko > >Kethry: B-ko > >young Elspeth: C-ko > >Darkwind: Tuxedo Mask (Tuxedo Kamen) with longer hair > >older Elspeth: Sailor Moon > >Selenay: Queen Serenity > Elspeth (adult) - Lufy (Gall Force) > Hulda - B-ko (Project A-ko) > Jeri - Linna Yamazaki (Bubblegum Crisis) > Karal - Yusaku Godai (Maison Ikkoku) > Keren - Priss Asagiri (Bubblegum Crisis) > Kerowyn - Minako/Sailor Venus (Sailor Moon) > Kris - Yuu (Marmalade Boy) > Natoli - Kyoko Otonashi (Maison Ikkoku) > Orthallen - Quincy (Bubblegum Crisis) > Sherrill - Akane Tendou (Ranma 1/2) > Skif (young) - Ataru Moroboshi (Urusei Yatsura) > Solaris - Sylia Stingray (Bubblegum Crisis) > Talia - Meiko (Marmalade Boy) > Teren - Master (Kimagure Orange Road) > Kethry - Miki (Marmalade Boy) > Star-Eyed - Madoka Ayukawa (Kimagure Orange Road) > Tarma - Kazumi Amano (Gunbuster) > Savil - Mrs. Ichinose (Maison Ikkoku) > Vanyel - Ashura (I think that's his name... the male lead in RG Veda) Yasha, Ashura is the girl's name. > miscellaneous changelings - Ranma, Shampoo, Mousse, Ryouga, Genma (all from > Ranma 1/2) Yes! Shampoo as Nyara :) and Kodachii as Hulda. (Both Ranma 1/2) --Gyrfalcon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 21:29:36 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Random Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Stormcloud wrote: > Adrienne York wrote: > > I think one gets to pick... as I recall, Shavri declined Consort status, > > so she wasn't in line for the throne. Couldn't Daren decline King > > status. It would make political sense, allaying the fears of those who > > think treason is inheritable, even though Daren is a Herald. > > Shavri didn't MARRY Randi, that's why she wasn't legally a Consort. > And she didn't marry him because she was trying to keep Jisa out of > line for the throne as well. I don't think she was worried about > having to take the throne herself, because she was lifebonded to > Randi and would probably die when he went. She was more concerned > for Jisa. Hey! Me-+AT+-library, books-+AT+-home, but, IIRC, Vanyel said to...somebody in MPrice that they were lucky Shavri had declined Consort status, because then she would be next in line for the throne, and she'd be a worse disaster than Jisa, who was really an MO. And people don't always die from their lifebonded's death, and Shavri was super scared of ruling, so I think she *must* have thought there was a chance she'd have the throne. And even if her mechanism for not being Consort was through not marrying, and I'm still not sure that the way it reads she would have had to marry him for that, it does show that there is some possible chocie in how these things go. > > >> What is an unbonded Choosing and what status does it confer on > >> the chosen? I digress...) but the answers are nowhere to be > >> found. Perhaps we will discover them later (sigh). > >> Summerstorm > > > Perhaps an unbonded Choosing gets you entrance to the Collegium, but > > doesn't make you a Herald permanently? There has to be some mechanism > > for training people who just aren't as stupid, er, I mean > > self-sacrificing as a Herald but are Gifted in Valdemar. They can't let > > them roam around untrained forever, can they? > > > Isn't an unbonded Choosing when the Herald is going to get Chosen by > another Companion, like the MOC, whenever that Companion becomes > available (i.e. the death of the old MO)? That's what I've always > thought. Like when they expected Rolan to choose someone who was > already a Herald, presumably that Herald would have had a light bond > with his/ her Comp. I might believe that except for the fact that Vanyel fully expected that he was a reasonable candidate for being MO and he was most certainly tightly bonded to 'Fandes. The only references to unbonded choosings I remember, and that means there are probably twenty of which I don't recall, were all in order for someone to get training if they needed it. _____________________________________________________________________________ L'enfant terrible ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu Grand Destinies lead to Grand Funerals. -Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 22:15:12 EST From: Starlight-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Eric & Kory Message-ID: < On March 20, Heather Watson asked: < >And does anyone else think that series is currently very < >*unresolved*? Kory's tossing all these fears about the future around, < >and they're never dealt with. I'm still not convinced that Kory will < >stay until Beth and Eric get old and die. My she'enedra felt the same < >way, but a bunch of people at the QO Collegium at Dragoncon told us we < >were crazy. < > I think there's plenty that needs to be told in a third book, even if < >Baen is getting bitchy and cancelling the series. First Diana, now < >this. Sigh. < < I want to know more about that vision/premonition/whatever that Eric (?) had < that showed Eric and Ria in the same hotel room together. You mean there's not going to be a next book? I caught that bit about Ria & Eric in the hotel room. I used it to show my sister an example of foreshadowing. R U telling me it's not? < < Jeanne Hedge < < jhedge-+AT+-waterw.com ==================== 75512.1214-+AT+-compuserve.com < < "The truth is the one thing that nobody will believe." < -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) < < ============ http://www.accsyst.com/jhedge/main.htm ============ < < Starlight debeng-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu *********************************************** Echoes of an ancient time live inside your mind Why don't you set them free Let your vision breathe... ---- David Arkenstone *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:First Books Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Jill wrote: > Speaking of Robin McKinley, has anyone heard of a book she wrote > called "Beauty"? I've been looking for it for years, and I've never, > ever found it ... My public library had it, and it's wonderful. I love it, but I'm not surprised it's hard to find, it's copyright 79 and the last reprint I ever saw was in '85. You could try used book dealers on the web, to see what you get.... _____________________________________________________________________________ L'enfant terrible ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu Grand Destinies lead to Grand Funerals. -Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 22:28:24 EST From: Starlight-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Order of reading books Message-ID: < Des Davies wrote: < > Heyla all! < > < > First of all I'd like to say hello to all on the list. Hello! I've been lurking < > on and off for about 3 weeks, mainly because I haven't had the time to reply. < > Work you know! < < Hello!!!!! :) < < > On the topic of series vs. stand-alones, I tend to prefer those < > books that < > manage to be a bit of both. That is they form part of a series because they have < > a theme that runs throughout several books, but each book in the series actually < > completes a story in itself. Several books and series come to mind to illustrate < > this. < > < > The Riftwar Saga and Empire books by Raymond Fiest. There are very definite < > plots that run throughout each of the books in both these series - The Riftwar < > and Mara's fight to restore her clan respectivily. However, each book also < > manages to form a complete story in it's own right. Magician forms a story in < > it's own right, as does Silverthorn. You could read them in any particular < > order, although it's obviously better read them in the correct order. < > < > Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series is the same in this respect. Yes, you'd < > lose a lot of info. about the history if read as separate books, but it is < > possible. < > < > Of course, the Misty books also follow this format. Didn't someone mention < > recently reading the LHM series in a completely random manner? < < That would be me! When I was 13, I read them: Price, Pawn, Promise. < Try reading them Promise,Price,Pawn. My sister and I didn't know it was a series. After reading Promise and Price, we assumed that Pawn would take place where Promise started, with him doing his circuit earning the name Demonstalker. Boy were we surprised, pleasantly though, cause now Pawn is our favorite. < > On the other hand, it's almost impossible to read Eddings books in anything but < > the correct order. And while I enjoyed the Belgariad, I found it annoying < > because there was so much left unfinished at the end of each book. And Eddings < > is not the only author that does this. In fact it's much more common to find < > this format. < < < TELL me about it!!!!!!!!! :) < Just once, I would like to start a series with the first one. I've read so many series, and I still have yet to start with the first one of one. With Eddings, I started with Magician's Gambit, found out it was a series after reading the first couple of chapters and went back to the library the next day to start it in order. Had to reread MGambit for things to start clicking. Course it didin't help that my middle school library didn't have the second one. Once I found that one, oh 6 months later, I had to reread every one again. Believe me when I introduced the series to my sister, I made sure to give it to her in order. I told her it was sort of like Piers Anthony, who she was reading then, only she had to read it in order to really get what was going on. < > Four winds, < > SmokeHeart < < Nice name! :) < < -+AT+->--- < Stormcloud In the name < One in Black of the Moon < Jenna, the Misty maniac I'll punish you! < jwil3969-+AT+-simcl.stjohns.edu < < < Starlight debeng-+AT+-eden.rutgers.edu *********************************************** Echoes of an ancient time live inside your mind Why don't you set them free Let your vision breathe... ---- David Arkenstone *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 21:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Series v. stand-alone Message-ID: <01I2RQAHQGOY90QHXI-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: ROZANM-+AT+-webster.nl (Rozanna McNeer) > >Anthor long series, but one that I feel is worth the read, are the >fantasy books by Katherine Kerr The (blank)Spell series, >followed by The Days of (blank) series. I've got the British copies, >and noticed the names were different in the States, so I hope this >is close enough to help. She is a good author, the books are set >(loosely) in an Irish Celtic (not mainland Celtic) setting, and puts a >'new' spin on reincarnation and fate. I'm just starting to read _Daggerspell_ right now (it's #1 in the series). I hope it's good. Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:42:32 -0500 (EST) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: female relationships Message-ID: Well, this really has nothing to do with the subject line, but neither does it have a completely random ObMisty! :) Hawkbrother joke: Q: How many Hawkbrothers does it take to change a mage-light? A1: If the mage doesn't ground, only one and they last for days. A2: If they're mages, they're popular, and do you really need a mage light.... Hee hee. :) *****LADY JAGUAR***** Leader of the Cat People Lady in Green LGMCB Conspirator #14, DHTBB Lobe #3! "Meddle not in the affairs of cats for you are soft-skinned, and blind at night." ********************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 23:08:55 EST From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re:First Books Message-ID: <9603260408.AA24067-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> > Speaking of Robin McKinley, has anyone heard of a book she wrote >called "Beauty"? I've been looking for it for years, and I've never, >ever found it ... >Jill Morrison /// morrisjm-+AT+-sbu.edu /// Merlyn3109-+AT+-aol.com Waah......the cry of the veteran list member:) Beauty is Out Of Print, a disturbing state for any novel...wait...am I thinking correctly? Is Beauty OOP or hard to find? one or the other. Been too long since we had this discussion..maybe even a full 3 months! :P j/k....along with elspeth's 'life-bond' we seem to be starting another round of rehash...let's see what knew things are stirred up this time!;) *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, and Firstborn Child of Danaan. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 23:12:21 EST From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: Random Message-ID: <9603260412.AA24102-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> >Is there really any evidence that Heralds are re-incarnated as other >heralds? The only reincarnate herald that I remember was 'Lendel/stefen >and he was not Chosen again. Well, I'm not sure, but didn't Van get the choice of haven, sorrows, or being a companion? woouldn't it seem reasonable that companions get haven, some higher duty, or heralds? Also, remember the Tayledras's reincarnation theory. *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, and Firstborn Child of Danaan. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 23:14:31 EST From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: Dirk Message-ID: <9603260414.AA24236-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> >My computer hiccuped and lost the message, but someone was saying that >Dirk got on her nerves because of his incessant giggling. I can't explain >the incident in _Arrows_, but in BTS (when Kerowyn was ranting about >musicians) I would imagine he got the giggles because not only are he & >Talia amateur musicians, but so is every family member of his who isn't a >full Bard. > >Becky Dirk giggles? Musta been one of the things I missed....only giggler I remember is Son of The Cliche himself, Hadanelith..... *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, and Firstborn Child of Danaan. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 23:17:34 EST From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: Random (I think :) Message-ID: <9603260417.AA24259-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> > > You know, a book or short story about Jisa and Trevan's reign >after Vanyel's death might be interesting. I like Jisa, and mopping >up after that kind of disaster (even though it did save Valdemar) >would be quite a task. whoah...It's been SO LONG since I reread MPrice....can't stand the beginning....Could Trevan be Treyvan? if humans can be telepathic horses, than why can't humans be telepathic, oversized birds? *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, and Firstborn Child of Danaan. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:18:11 -0600 (CST) From: "SHE WHO WORSHIPS GEORGE, SILK, AND SKIF" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Random Message-ID: <960325221811.7ac4-+AT+-tiny.computing.csbsju.edu> About the Shavri/Randall/Jisa thing... me-+AT+-home books-+AT+-school/friends/library but I think that Shavri REALLY REALLY REALLY did NOT want herself or Jisa in the line of succession. Isn't that why they had that HUGE problem when Jisa went and married (I can't BELIEVE I forgot his name... T-something) her lifebonded. I'm probably quoting this all wrong, but didn't Shavri say something about how she had gone through all the trouble to make sure that she and Jisa wouldn't be rulers, and Jisa had gone and ruined it by marrying T---- (Errr.. It's right on the tip of my, brain...) Well, that's just MHO. Lady Velvet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:20:12 -0800 From: mortaine To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Random Message-ID: <3157707C.74EE-+AT+-ufcp.com> aaron douglas bilodeau wrote: > Read Arrows again. Talia keeps feeling like some buried memory is > tugging at the edges of her sub-concious. In this day and age, it's a > good bet that any herald has been either a Herald, a Companion, or more > likely both, in some previous incarnation. Past life memories can > come through in surprising ways. > > Summerstorm I always thought that was just referring to the way Rolan made her "forget" that she'd been chosen. I don't find any references to buried memories (except ones like her abusive brother) beyond that. mortaine -- mortaine-+AT+-ufcp.com http://www.ufcp.com/employee/steph/steph2.htm ============================================ Humility is like Zen; once you think you've got it, you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:21:41 -0500 From: SHORTFUZZY-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: unsubscribing Message-ID: <960325232140_255971839-+AT+-mail02.mail.aol.com> I would like some help in unsubscribing to the Mercedes-Lackey group. One of my friends signed me on as a joke while he was using my password (which has since then been changed). I like Misty's stuff, but I'm trying to run a business here, so all the non essential mail is very distracting. If you can help me get off here, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Chip Brazell SHORTFUZZY-+AT+-aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 96 00:07:56 EST From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Master Cast List (2nd ed.) Message-ID: <960326050755_102744.2515_GHT50-5-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> . Catwoman, sorry you don't like B-ko as Kethry. That's the .only suggestion I got so far, though. If you have another one. . . . I'm listening!!!!! NOoooooo it isn't... I suggested Sailor Moon as Kethry. I'halla shansu, =========================== Rynath (OIB) / Jake ======================= Happiness and loneliness run on the same path--- it only matters in how you walk it. =========================102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com =================== ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 96 01:07:32 EST From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Stand-alones Message-ID: <960326060732_102744.2515_GHT96-5-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Lady Kayla wrote: .I must admit I much prefer series to stand-alones. Until someone writes a .stand alone that is long enough I guess that will always be the way!!!!! I .read too fast for most people!!!! *grin* I always get to the end of a book .and think "is that it??? what happens next????" Yes, I do that with single books too (_Fire in the Mist_ by Holly Lisle for one)--although I *am* finding out I'm doing it with series of books also... you know you're too involved in fantasy that you go "Well? What's next?" at the end of Jennifer Roberson's "Chronicles of the Cheysuli" (an 8 book cycle). I'halla shansu, =========================== Rynath (OIB) / Jake ======================= Happiness and loneliness run on the same path--- it only matters in how you walk it. =========================102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com =================== ------------------------------ Date: 26 Mar 96 01:07:53 EST From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Series vs. Stand-Alones Message-ID: <960326060753_102744.2515_GHT96-9-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Des Davies wrote: .On the topic of series vs. stand-alones, I tend to prefer those books that .manage to be a bit of both. That is they form part of a series because they have .a theme that runs throughout several books, but each book in the series actually .completes a story in itself. Several books and series come to mind to illustrate .this. .On the other hand, it's almost impossible to read Eddings books in anything but .the correct order. And while I enjoyed the Belgariad, I found it annoying .because there was so much left unfinished at the end of each book. And Eddings .is not the only author that does this. In fact it's much more common to find .this format. Yes! I hate it when you start a new trilogy, finish the first book, and you get a "To Be Continued (Sucker!)" message at the end. I buy fantasy as soon as it's out, often, and leaving readers hanging for a *year* at a time in between books is just cruel. And often you forget just what happened, and have to re-read the *first* books to understand where the *second* starts! It would be different if there was some sort of resolution at the end of the book, like most of Misty's books. I'm talking about those books that end something like "and then, the king turned around and saw...." It's like watching a TV series episode with a TO BE CONTINUED on it. But I do like it when I have the *whole* series (I tend to buy books in whole serieses instead of one by one) and I run from one book to the next (which I do with Eddings.) Another one for my Top 10 Fantasy Dislikes list (it's not done, don't ask for it). I'halla shansu, =========================== Rynath (OIB) / Jake ======================= Happiness and loneliness run on the same path--- it only matters in how you walk it. =========================102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com =================== ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 436 *********************************