MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 445 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Joining the Ladies in Green by Mat Timmerman 2) Re: Castings by Mat Timmerman 3) Re: Kris by Mat Timmerman 4) Re: rehashing Talia's gifts by Mat Timmerman 5) Re: Order of Reading Books by Mat Timmerman 6) Re: poll by Lara Keyser 7) Re: First Books by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 8) Re: Tarma by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 9) Re: Booklovers, was Re: Women's Lit by The Mage of Green Silences 10) Re: Women's Lit by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 11) Re: Women's Lit by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 12) Re: poll by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 13) Re: 3-fold Goddesses by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 14) Re: Kings and consorts, was: Re: Random by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 15) Re: astrology was re beauty by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 16) Re: Companion-names by Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com 17) re:Companion-names by George of the Jungle 18) Re: Booklovers, was Re: Women's Lit by "deanca" 19) Re: Booklovers, was Re: Women's Lit by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 20) reading speed (fairly off-topic) by mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) 21) Re: Fire Rose (SPOILERS) by "deanca" 22) Re: from the trenches by "deanca" 23) Re: rehashing Talia's gifts by "deanca" 24) Re: Fire Rose (SPOILERS) by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) 25) Re: Dragons by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:37:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Joining the Ladies in Green Message-ID: <01I2X9TNQMQM91XHU4-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com > >Dear Lady > Well, I'm most definitely not one of the Ladies (though I am their poster boy ;) ), but I'll answer anyway. >how do i join and how do i get the mage war lists > Pretty much by just asking to be added to the list. And usually joining a group gets you put onto the list (I think). >most humbly > >susan I'll send a message to the list to add you. Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:40:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Castings Message-ID: <01I2XA0DA4TW91XHU4-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: deanca > >> The character's name was Inigo Montoya; the actor's name is Mandy >> Patinkin; and the line is: "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed >> my father. Prepare to die." >> >> ---Chelsea >The Man In Black-"Why are you smiling?" >Inigo Montoya-"Because I know something you don't know." >TMIB-"what?" >IM-"I'm not left-handed" TMIB-"I have to tell you something." Inigo-"What" TMIB-"I'm not left handed either." You know, it's been waaaay too long since I saw that movie. ObMisty: There are no fire swamps or Rodents of Unusual Size in Velgarth. Although now there seem to be WoUS's (Wyrsa of Unusual Size). ;) ObMisty's are fun!!!!!<-guess how many ;) Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:42:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kris Message-ID: <01I2XA40O8EI91XHU4-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com > >amy, > >i cried bitterly when Kris died and again for talia and again with a >happiness when dirk and talia finally tied the knot, > >als cried when talia so sick after being thrown in river I have to say that I cry whenever I read the part where they tell Talia that Jadus died. And when Vanyel dies, and when Kris dies, and when Van beats up on Withen.... Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:45:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: rehashing Talia's gifts Message-ID: <01I2XA6I022891XHU4-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: Birgit Hanel > >This was bothering me for some time and I can't remember if it was >discussed on the list, so please forgive me if I'm starting it >over agaaaiiin . > Hey, I don't mind. I think that I'm the unofficial Keeper of Talia's extra Gifts (FarSight, ThoughtSensing) around here anyway. >Rolan talked to Talia when he chose her and made her forget the fact >afterwards (for some obscure, Companion-like reasons ). >So we read that Talia has no direct Mindspeech, but how did Rolan tell her >about Elspeth's progress in learning magic (WoChange)? IIRC Gwena told Rolan >who told Talia who told Selenay. How's that supposed to work if Talia >cannot "talk" to Rolan? The only thing that I can think of is that she tranced down really far so that Rolan could pretty much put the ideas of what happened into her mind. Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Order of Reading Books Message-ID: <01I2XAHTVUYU91XHU4-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: "Jake (Rynath *OIB*)" <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> > >Maybe it will turn out like Edding's Belgariad.. with "Part One" consisting of >books 1, 2, and 3 and "Part Two" consisting of the rest. Well, in the originals, there was no part one and two. I think that they're only doing it now so they can do the reprints in hardcover. Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "I don't care what you smell, just get in there!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:17:07 -0800 From: Lara Keyser To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: poll Message-ID: <199603300217.SAA13166-+AT+-beach.silcom.com> >If you're interested, send me your ages and where you live. I'll >post the results next week (I promise!). Lara Keyser 26yrs Santa Barbara, CA :-) "If man could be crossed with a cat, it would improve the man but deteriorate the cat" -Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:18:26 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: First Books Message-ID: <960330011826_259705790-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-03-29 04:03:30 EST, you write: >> Speaking of Robin McKinley, has anyone heard of a book she wrote >>> called "Beauty"? I've been looking for it for years, and I've never, >>> ever found it ... I believe that Beauty is part of the Fairy Tale series, a series of books put out by mumble using popular authors to re write and rework old fairy tales and legends, also in this series are DeerSkin and Tam Lin both very good. just had to add my two cents to the conversation here they are o o Giggleing, Lady Susanna now where is my other boot? green pathways open before thee and wind always to thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:18:06 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tarma Message-ID: <960330011805_259705882-+AT+-mail02.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-03-29 07:56:04 EST, you write: >Yes!!! Leslie Fish is *so* cool. I only met her once, and I have a >character based off of her, too -- a jaded werewolf housewife (it's a >long story ) > I dunno about Cher for Tarma, though. I mean, if Misty says so, I >can hardly argue (like I know more about it than the author), but Tarma >is supposed to be lean and asexual. Cher's not exactly, um, lean and I >NEVER thought of her as asexual. She's pretty sexy, if you ask me. Greetings, IMHO, Cher could never make it as Tarma, she's too busy doing hair commercials and no she is not my idea of asexual, or even toned down sexuality although someone with her amerind looks and voice is definitely right, i think that is what misty meant obmisty ahead ---isn't she just great!!!! Lady Susanna there it is under the bed with the dust bunnies green pathways open before thee and wind always at thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:42:51 -0500 (EST) From: The Mage of Green Silences To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Booklovers, was Re: Women's Lit Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, George of the Jungle wrote: > On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > > > I have hundreds of books, and very few are single reads only - hell I can > > do an Arrows in an evening, without stretching - a Winds requires a total > > shut out of husband/chores/telly/conversation, but it's do-able - I need > > books, lots of books, shelves and shelves of books. Does anyone out there > > "read" their bookshelves? If I've 10 minutes to kill with a coffe, I just > > take up station in front of my book-wall, and browse - I like to know > > where they all are, remind myself of what's there - some people commune > > with nature, I commune with my books! > > > > whoof, shuttit EE, there's work awaiting, > > > > tot ziens > > Esmeralda Evensbane > > (unaffiliated) > > > > Yes! Yes! At last, vindication! I am not a freak! Or, at least, if I am, > I am not the only one of my kind. I reread every book I own, and I own > lots. (4 sets of floor-to-ceiling bookshelves at last count.) > > A dedicated bibliophile, Oh, I have the same "problem" (or blessing). I have well over 1,000 titles in paperback, and almost that in hardback. Moving is a major pain for me. I have more boxes of books than I have anything else. And like our lovely Esmerelda (what a wonderful green name), I also will engage in a quiet evening of shelf reading. Just going through my collection and saying "hi" to all my old friends. What a way to spend some quality time. May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Eu guardo a luz das estrelas a alma de cada folha Sem folhas nao tem vida, Sem folhas nao tem nada, Salve as folhas! Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:28:58 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Women's Lit Message-ID: <960330022858_501593434-+AT+-emout08.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-03-29 08:13:05 EST, you write: > >> i don't see the need to lable books at all, that is a waste of time >> >> i am thinking of eddings books for instance which i have heard labled a >mans >> book or guy gavriel kay which has been labled various things, or of ru >> emersons excellent night threads series which deals both with personal >stuff >> and manly stuff >> >> why lable if it is good, read it!! > >To which I say "hear, hear - right on" I find early McCaffrey good, but >Dolphins of Pern - puhleeeeeeese, and Ru Emerson's Princess of Flames >is brill - she spends the major part of the book fooling the vast >majority of people that's she's a fella - and a troop leading, religious >leader, man-with-stunning-mistress type of fella at that, but her other >stuff failed to gel. I love Austen and Le Carre, I quite enjoy Clancy >or Ludlum now and then, and Heyer - they're books to read and enjoy. > >I read it - there are then several options: >1. I grind to a halt after a few chapters and find it under a cushion a few > months later; >2. I bolt through faster and faster, just to find out what happens, and > never read it again; >3. I bolt through faster and faster, just to find out what happens, then > immediately re-start (Arrows 1 I read three times on the trot); >4. I finish, put it away, then it comes knocking on my brain after 6 months/ > a year/5 years - it's why I never throw a book away; >5. It becomes a "comfort book" - like an old cardigan, something to get > me through a lonely evening, or a flu convalescence - something I know > so well, I can just switch off and drift through; > >I have hundreds of books, and very few are single reads only - hell I can >do an Arrows in an evening, without stretching - a Winds requires a total >shut out of husband/chores/telly/conversation, but it's do-able - I need >books, lots of books, shelves and shelves of books. Does anyone out there >"read" their bookshelves? If I've 10 minutes to kill with a coffe, I just >take up station in front of my book-wall, and browse - I like to know >where they all are, remind myself of what's there - some people commune >with nature, I commune with my books! > >whoof, shuttit EE, there's work awaiting, > >tot ziens >Esmeralda Evensbane >(unaffiliated) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:28:40 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Women's Lit Message-ID: <960330022839_501593459-+AT+-mail02.mail.aol.com> My dear Esmeralda: This is lengthy friends so bear with me In a message dated 96-03-29 08:13:05 EST, >I wrote >> i don't see the need to lable books at all, that is a waste of time >> >> i am thinking of eddings books for instance which i have heard labled a >mans >> book or guy gavriel kay which has been labled various things, or of ru >> emersons excellent night threads series which deals both with personal >stuff >> and manly stuff >> >> why lable if it is good, read it!! You wrote back > >To which I say "hear, hear - right on" I find early McCaffrey good, but >Dolphins of Pern - puhleeeeeeese, and Ru Emerson's Princess of Flames >is brill - she spends the major part of the book fooling the vast >majority of people that's she's a fella - and a troop leading, religious >leader, man-with-stunning-mistress type of fella at that, but her other >stuff failed to gel. I love Austen and Le Carre, I quite enjoy Clancy >or Ludlum now and then, and Heyer - they're books to read and enjoy. > >I read it - there are then several options: >1. I grind to a halt after a few chapters and find it under a cushion a few > months later; >2. I bolt through faster and faster, just to find out what happens, and > never read it again; >3. I bolt through faster and faster, just to find out what happens, then > immediately re-start (Arrows 1 I read three times on the trot); >4. I finish, put it away, then it comes knocking on my brain after 6 months/ > a year/5 years - it's why I never throw a book away; >5. It becomes a "comfort book" - like an old cardigan, something to get > me through a lonely evening, or a flu convalescence - something I know > so well, I can just switch off and drift through; > >I have hundreds of books, and very few are single reads only - hell I can >do an Arrows in an evening, without stretching - a Winds requires a total >shut out of husband/chores/telly/conversation, but it's do-able - I need >books, lots of books, shelves and shelves of books. Does anyone out there >"read" their bookshelves? If I've 10 minutes to kill with a coffe, I just >take up station in front of my book-wall, and browse - I like to know >where they all are, remind myself of what's there - some people commune >with nature, I commune with my books! > >whoof, shuttit EE, there's work awaiting, > >tot ziens >Esmeralda Evensbane >(unaffiliated) > > I do apologise for the lengthiness, but i am trying to hold the thought strand together Thank you Esmeralda for your kind words, i wholeheartedly agree--see my post to amy bauer somewhere in this queue, books are old friends and i keep boxes and boxes---hmm, maybe i should round up some knights to build shelves for the dear old things--and i have spent many a rainy afternoon, sitting on the floor surrounded by piles of books and a half eaten sandwich, happily reading a chapter here, a paragraph there-- and we are not alone, Becky wrote: Yes! Yes! At last, vindication! I am not a freak! Or, at least, if I am, I am not the only one of my kind. I reread every book I own, and I own lots. (4 sets of floor-to-ceiling bookshelves at last count.) A dedicated bibliophile, Becky however, Cenydd, Mage of the Green Silences had this to say: Well, if you didn't label books, we would all be searching for the Valdemar books in amoungst the Romance novels and Computer Manuals. Labeling is good. Labeling is our friend. The Peril of Improper Labelling: a Cautionary tale. By Nicole Hollander (liberally adapted by me). to which i reply, classifying loosely, as science fiction, romance, mystery, fantasy etc is our friend, it is stereotypical labeling as mens or womens or whatever that i object to Thank you fo wading through all this and thank you all contributors Gratefully Lady Susanna green pathways open before thee and wind always at thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:29:14 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: poll Message-ID: <960330022913_501593505-+AT+-emout08.mail.aol.com> Lady Tammy I greet thee I am not sure what you are polling but am 30 something still on the "right " side of 35, am female (obviously) and have one child and one husband hope this is what you need Yours Lady Susanna green pathways open before thee and wind ever at thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:28:46 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 3-fold Goddesses Message-ID: <960330022845_501593493-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com> Greetings: In a message dated 96-03-29 18:47:07 EST, you write: >On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > >> ISIS who actually handles some of all three aspects >> Sekhmet >> and i do apologise will look up third > > >AAAAaaaagh! Just because a pantheon has 3 (or more) Goddesses doesn't >mean they were all viewed as aspects of the same Goddess. Could we >possibly *be* any more monotheist!?! (very best Chandler impression). >Sekhment was a lioness goddess of IIRC war and killing. I don't think >that she was an avatar of Isis. In fact, I think that Sekhmet may have >been conflated with Bast (or Pasht, however you want to spellit). Isis, >on the other hand did absorb the Hathor cult, so that eventually, Hathor >was seen as another form of Isis (this was how the Hathor/Isis cult got >to Rome). > > > okay, okay!!! i stand corrected however, if not totally messed up isis was both mother and maiden/lover and when absorbed hathor cult also became crone any thoughts??!!! Doubtfully Lady Susanna green pathways open before thee and wind ever at thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:28:46 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kings and consorts, was: Re: Random Message-ID: <960330022844_501593487-+AT+-emout06.mail.aol.com> In a response to my missive regarding the order of succession in order of succession Adrienne York wrote: In a message dated 96-03-29 17:23:37 EST, >Where does it say Kris was born first? Where, where, where, where? I >would look for it myself, but I'm freaking out in school and I don't even >know what book people believe this mysterious reference to birth order to >be hanging out in. The only thing I remember is Elspeth saying, "one of >them will be King, and the other King's Own." I think Misty just didn't >say Monarch and MO or some copyeditor got snotty. I dunno actually, someone else said it previously and being a trusting person i went for it , it made sense didn't it???? Lady Susanna, Scratching her head sadly green pathways open before thee and wind ever at thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:29:01 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: astrology was re beauty Message-ID: <960330022900_501593589-+AT+-mail04> Khenta: In a message dated 96-03-29 08:17:48 EST, you write: >Hmmm, seems as if Misty doesn't believe in astrology much. >Now that I think about it, there's only one fantasy-novel in which >astrology was kind of important, Marta Randall's Sword of Winter (sp?). > > This s really a shame too, astrology as seen on Velgarth or any number of other worlds of the printed word would be interesting to say the least Lady Susanna green pathways open before thee and wind ever at thy back ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:29:28 -0500 From: Susan5683-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Companion-names Message-ID: <960330022926_501593555-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com> Summerstorm: In a message dated 96-03-29 09:33:12 EST, you write: >Here's a thought: What happens when a herald who was lifebonded >comes back as a comapnion? Does the other come back as their chosen >herald? Maybe a lifebonded companion-pairing? (Boy, would that be weird) actually i'd like to see more of the life and times of companions, i get the impression that coming back and how you come back is a matter of personal choice, look at van, and sayvil and many others--all different choices, even remember van being held back by death to fulfill his destiny, also a choice i think that if i and my lifebonded were considering going around again.we would plan it out beforehand, to both either be people, or both be companions and amy bauer wrote: I was wondering the same thing! Actually, my thoughts were along the lines of, "Would Tala (Talia) and Diryk (Dirk, feel free to vary the names) be lifebonded as companions as well as as people. If this were the case, could one half of a lifebonded pair opt to hold off on reincarnation until the other could join them? exactly my thoughts my dear!!!!! and rynath wrote ( and apologies if mangled your name) Do *Heralds* come back too? I thought that the purpose of Companions was something along the lines of helping Heralds out. Bringing a Herald back would be kind of redundant for that purpose. Intriguing idea, though... I'halla shansu, ---------------===X> Rynath (OIB) / Jake To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re:Companion-names Message-ID: On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, The Mage of Green Silences wrote: > On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Melanie Dymond Harper wrote: > > > > > > then again, if you'd got through life with a monniker like Ebenezer, or > > > Hamadryad (Lordy where'd that one come from - Heinlein??) or Enolagay (I > > > kid you not - I knew one - her parents had no idea where it came from), > > > maybe you'd keep your 'real' name to yourself! > > > > Hamadryad was a name used in Heinlein, yep (although the dryads are also > > mythological). Parents who didn't know where Enolagay came from should not have > > been allowed to breed (the Enola Gay was the plane which dropped the A-bomb > > on Hiroshima). :) > > Hmmm. Well, here is an even worse one: H.L.Mencken cites "Wasserman > Positive" as the given name of a child in the records of a Southern > hospital. It was only one of several really cruel names. The phenomenon I've got another one to add to the list -- "Nosmo King". (I am not making this up.) ObMisty: I don't recall anyone smoking on Velgarth. Becky ---------- With my luck, the entrance exam to Heaven will have logarithms on it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:56:19 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Booklovers, was Re: Women's Lit Message-ID: <199603301553.KAA00918-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > > Does anyone out there > > > "read" their bookshelves? If I've 10 minutes to kill with a coffe, I just > > > take up station in front of my book-wall, and browse - I like to know > > > where they all are, remind myself of what's there - some people commune > > > with nature, I commune with my books! Yes! Even if I have read my friend's copy of a book, if it knocks me out, I _must_ have it . now if I was just rich enough I believe I could keep several bookstores comfortably in business. :) -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:59:40 GMT From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Booklovers, was Re: Women's Lit Message-ID: <9603301559.AA21657-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Becky said: > On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > > > I have hundreds of books, and very few are single reads only - hell I can > > do an Arrows in an evening, without stretching - a Winds requires a total > > shut out of husband/chores/telly/conversation, but it's do-able - I need > > books, lots of books, shelves and shelves of books. Does anyone out there > > "read" their bookshelves? If I've 10 minutes to kill with a coffe, I just > > take up station in front of my book-wall, and browse - I like to know > > where they all are, remind myself of what's there - some people commune > > with nature, I commune with my books! > > Yes! Yes! At last, vindication! I am not a freak! Or, at least, if I am, > I am not the only one of my kind. I reread every book I own, and I own > lots. (4 sets of floor-to-ceiling bookshelves at last count.) Only four sets? Heh. Amateur. :) Ours are currently on 13 sets of two-metre by one metre shelves. And overrunning them... Yes, I too will occasionally wander the house, peering at the shelves to remind myself what is where. The worrying part is how infrequently I need to do this to be able to find most books. Mel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:01:57 GMT From: mel (Melanie Dymond Harper) To: mercedes-lackey Subject: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: <9603301601.AA21880-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Yes, I am another member of the "book in an hour" club. I scared myself recently by being able to read the 'blipvert' in a Babylon 5 episode without needing to resort to freeze-frame; nine words, four frames (i.e. about 1/6 second). You do the maths... Mel. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:06:31 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fire Rose (SPOILERS) Message-ID: <199603301603.LAA00923-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > I was disappointed when I realized it was basically a retelling of Beauty and > > the Beast yep, well, gotta have it anyway! It's Misty, I like Beauty and the Beast, and I'm dying for new books! ( now all I need is money) -Free Bard Oriole . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:08:48 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: from the trenches Message-ID: <199603301605.LAA00927-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > I don't know if I'm in synch with the original question, but am > >the only one here who was introduced to fantasy via Tolkien and > >Lewis? Lewis and then Tolkien. Founders of the Genre. Did you you know that they were close friends? I've research papers on them both. -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:22:23 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: rehashing Talia's gifts Message-ID: <199603301619.LAA00942-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > >Rolan talked to Talia when he chose her and made her forget the fact > >afterwards (for some obscure, Companion-like reasons ). > >So we read that Talia has no direct Mindspeech, but how did Rolan tell her > >about Elspeth's progress in learning magic (WoChange)? IIRC Gwena told Rolan > >who told Talia who told Selenay. How's that supposed to work if Talia > >cannot "talk" to Rolan? I refer you to the infamous orientation class in AOTQ. They say that and I quote"-but if you thought your Companion spoke to you when he Chose you, you were right. He did. No matter if you never have more than a touch of a gift, your Companion will always speak to you in your heart at that moment-even if he never does so again. I wasn't something you dreamed. And if you have the right Gift, one day you'll learn to speak back." -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:26:07 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Fire Rose (SPOILERS) Message-ID: <199603301726.KAA19188-+AT+-usr1.primenet.com> >On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > >> I was disappointed when I realized it was basically a retelling of Beauty and >> the Beast. Misty is usually so creative and has new stories to tell. This >> was way too predictible. (Should I put on flame-proof armor now?) I also >> had a problem with the use of magic for personal material gain. Uhhmmm, why? I use magick for personal gain and see nothing wrong with it. Now on the other hand, magick used in corrupt ways, like say, to harm someone else, or magick that requires harm to someone else to be cast is a no-no in my book. Yes, being a magickal person is great, but if you're about to go broke and haven't eaten in the last two weeks, you're not very focused on energy! What I'm trying to get out here (and failing at miserably) is that there is nothing wrong with say, casting a spell so you get that job you just applied for, but I do see something wrong with casting a spell so you can get your friends job. What's wrong with having a comfortable life? Oh, I just had another thought (Two in one day. I may have to go take a nap...) Perhaps you were refering to the "use" of the Elemental spirits for housekeeping and things. In that case (Now don't take this the wrong way...) just let me point out that it's a work of fiction, and fantasy fiction at that. Beleive me, I'm just dying to know when an elemental is going to clean up MY room and serve me breakfast, but I'm also not holding my hand over my nether region. It might grow there, and that would make VERY uncomfortable to ride circiut . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LADY HERALD MAREESA RAENNSYR in of BLACK KNIGHT: Come Back! Green Valdemar I'll Bite Your Leg Off!!!!!<--look 5! ME: Run For Your Lives! It's The Sparrows! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:44:26 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Dragons Message-ID: <199603301744.KAA03575-+AT+-usr4.primenet.com> >.I don't remember any book where dragons form committees. > >Weren't they part of a committee of sorts in _Elvenbane?_ (I read that this >weekend--it was goooood.) > >I'halla shansu, > >---------------===X> Rynath (OIB) / Jake It's like mage storms on your wedding day > A song by Leslac that just won't go away > It's the vrondi's eyes, which mages can't bear > But Misty wrote it... it figures >------------===X> 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com > IIRC, in the "Dragon" books by Patricia C. Wrede (Dealing with Dragons, Searching for Dragons and two other that I forget about) the dragons of the enchanted forset form a comittee to exterminate wizards. They also appear to act as a committee when trying to get rid of Cimorene. So there. NAH! ObMi, er, well, I guess not. Doesn't McCaffrey's White Dragon remind you of a certain congressman with lizard-like qualities to his name? Newt, are you masquerading as a fantasy reader to infiltrate the mage war? (Consider yourself gotten back dearling!) Love, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LADY HERALD MAREESA RAENNSYR in of BLACK KNIGHT: Come Back! Green Valdemar I'll Bite Your Leg Off!!!!!<--look 5! ME: Run For Your Lives! It's The Sparrows! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 445 *********************************