MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 453 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Tarma by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 2) Re: April Fools / Anne Rice; was Re: *sigh* by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 3) Re: Tarma by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 4) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 447 by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 5) Re: *sigh* by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 6) Re: Why Kris will be king... by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) 7) Re: book lovers by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 8) Re: castings esp Tarma by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 9) re: Hamadryads by Chelsea Amberle Fischer 10) re: mailing by "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" 11) Re: rehashing Talia's gifts by Chelsea Amberle Fischer 12) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 447 by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 13) Re: poll by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 14) Re: Why Kris will be king... by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 15) Re: Reading speed by Heather Watson 16) Re: mailing by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 17) Re: *sigh* by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 18) Re: ima hogg by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 19) Re: Tarma by Chelsea Amberle Fischer 20) warnings by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 21) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 22) McCaffrey/Rice/Rampling--Help! by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 23) Netiquette by Adrienne York 24) Re: Why Kris will be king... by Rosario Holsen-Baker 25) Re: Lyrics by Heather Watson 26) Re: Book lovers by Heather Watson 27) Re: Random (I think :) by SELIEGHE-+AT+-aol.com 28) Re: Why Kris will be king... by Mat Timmerman 29) Re: Gate of Darkness.. (Spoilers) (Was re: David...) by Mat Timmerman 30) by kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com 31) Re: re gays by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:18:01 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tarma Message-ID: <01I32JMJGDLQ96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> *****ObMIsty: As almost all the people left on Velgarth after the mage wars were Kal'ed'a'in, does that mean that Valdemaran, Empiran, and Shin'a'in/Tayledras are all related? Or is the valdemaran stock descended from northern barbarians?***** The Empire was founded by a group of mercenaries warned just before the cataclysm to get away. "...the Empire had concetrated its efforts on its Eastern borders, taking the boundary of the Empire all the way to the Salten Sea." There had to be people for the Empire to conquer. (SWarning, pg265) For the history of how they got there, check out pages 338-339, SWarning. It's too long to type. Also, who says that at the time they were total barbarians up north. Ma'ar came from north of Tantara and he was pretty damned slick. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: April Fools / Anne Rice; was Re: *sigh* Message-ID: <01I32KBO0IO296YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> Well, I got my first response from one of the two. She's "court-martialing her sources." Knowing Jen, I'm not sure if she's going to kill them, or shore up her case and start a war with me. *grin* I'm having fun! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tarma Message-ID: <01I32KI19ZK896YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> Cenydd, do we have two Heathers on the mailing list, because I didn't write that. This is the Heather who made a complete cake of herself with the males comments that Rynath blasted out of the water. **tentative :)** Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:49:23 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 447 Message-ID: <01I32L1C6DQY96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> *****I think cher would be the better candidate as she is in better shape. However, if it was possible to capture the AH of years ago she would make a good candidate too. I would like to hear your reasons for why you think AH is a better candidate.***** A friend of mine wrote that when I asked him "the" question. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: *sigh* Message-ID: <01I32L3VI5LC96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> *****> I wonder if they have a prank day in Velgarth, or would they > incorporate that into Midsummer's Eve, do you think? Hmm. Something to think > about. > > Heather With Skif around, they wouldn't *need* such a day. They'd be having it all of the year.***** Khenta Blaufalk***** Very, very true, I loved that purse-stealing prank. But, I'm sure they actually would have a prank day. Or maybe one of the various religions would. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:03:55 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why Kris will be king... Message-ID: <199604022103.OAA06000-+AT+-usr2.primenet.com> >BTW, has anyone thought it odd that *Selenay* not Talia and Dirk named a >kid after Kris? This strikes me as odd.... > >I\/ Catherine Osborne "After great pain, >I\/ Sundancer a formal feeling comes." >I cosborne-+AT+-sidwell.edu --Emily Dickinson >I http://www.sidwell.edu/~cosborne/ > > > The only explanation I could think of was that Selenay and Daren had the twins before Talia had her son, and they wanted to make sure that *somebody* wound up named after him. What was Talia's son's name anyway, Jeremy wasn't it? Or some oddly spelled variant thereof. Did you notice that he hasn't been seen, mentioned, *anything* in the Storms books? In fact, I only remember him from that one line in the first Winds book, something like "Talia can't go because Jeremy could be used against her." (One of these days I'm going to build a Misty shelf next to my 'puter, since I'm constantly looking up referances...) ~~~~~~~~~~Lady 'Reesa~~~~~~~~~~mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~) "In a way, Sam had been like the clothes he'd worn; all ) one color on the surface, pure evil at first glance...but ) that shadow was supported and held together by a ) thousand other patches that made him what he was...a ) thousand shades of grey and a cluster of patches of ) rainbow, covered unfairly by the blanket definition of evil" ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:07:04 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: <01I32LMA2BA896YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> This may seem a little weird, but Rozanna, a re you an army/navy/air force/etc. brat? I'm an army brat myself. Also, I tried to mail you but my comp keeps saying "no such user or alias" What does that mean? Heather (soon to be Shadowspun, pipe up now if it's taken!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:14:26 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: castings esp Tarma Message-ID: <01I32LU9L3H296YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> I must say that King Solomon's mines and Allan Quartermain and the Lost City of Gold are on my movie wish list. They were also the only thing I like watching Sharon Stone in. She had a great future in comedy/action/adventure, but then she moved to the other roles. It's no wonder there is a dearth of really good, VERY OBVIOUS, role models out there for girls. Too many of the women who could do something, sell out. There are my two cents. Now, here come the screams of anger. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:14:33 -0600 (CST) From: Chelsea Amberle Fischer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Hamadryads Message-ID: Another place hamadryads show up: Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series..... ---Chelsea P.S. I know, I know, I said *the* name.... sorry!! :) ******************************************* Ream ember us poke in cent tense all mows stall ways con deigns word snot in ten did. ******************************************* http://www.unt.edu/~caf0001 caf0001-+AT+-jove.acs.unt.edu Chelsea Fischer ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:17:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: mailing Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Rosario Holsen-Baker wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote: > > > ObMisty: Umm, there must be one in here somewhere. I want to know > > what the story is with (damn the spell is working on me even now) > > that country on the border of Valdemar that takes care of itself and > > quetioned Karal (:priest? ahh....:) > > > You mean Iftel? (Those spells seem to not work on me :) I'm > not sure. Iftel is just weird. I don't think that's really a deity > guarding it, though, it doesn't seem to be on the same intelligence > level of the other deities we've seen. More like a bondbird version of > a deity....oh my. The bondbird version to Kal'enel's Hawkbrother > version????? <---5! I think that it is quite clear in the text that there is a God of Iftel that does protect its people. However, I don't think that we are meant to draw the conclusion that the border shield is the God in its entirety. I think that Shield is just an artifact of the God's will/presence. As such, we would not expect it to have a high intelligence. Ken May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Eu guardo a luz das estrelas a alma de cada folha Sem folhas nao tem vida, Sem folhas nao tem nada, Salve as folhas! Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:18:13 -0600 (CST) From: Chelsea Amberle Fischer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: rehashing Talia's gifts Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Korendil wrote: > cave:)) Well, in AFall, we learned that Companions can mindspeak to > WHOMEVER they want WHENEVER They want, thank you! No mindspeech needed. This is also found in _Magic's Price_, when Yfandes talks to Stef to get him to help her help Vanyel when V gets captured... ---Chelsea ******************************************* Ream ember us poke in cent tense all mows stall ways con deigns word snot in ten did. ******************************************* http://www.unt.edu/~caf0001 caf0001-+AT+-jove.acs.unt.edu Chelsea Fischer ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 447 Message-ID: <01I32M1REZX896YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> This may be a little (ok, a lot!) off-topic, but my friends and I went to the mall on Saturday and we saw a booth where they were selling silver and turquoise jewelry. My friend asked the lady if she knew how much of a profit the Native Americans who made it were getting. She said she couldn't buy it unless they were getting at leasst thirty percent. The lady got all huffy and the man said they didn't know. You could tell they were getting ticked at my friend for asking. Granted, this was in a pretty hickish town, but you'd think they wouldn't get out of sorts just because she asked a question they couldn't answer. Do you think they did it because they felt guilty for not knowing or ticked because she asked a question they never would have thought or cared about? *sigh* Heather (I'm not writing the warning again, so, if Shadowspun is taken, speak now or forever hold your peace!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:24:58 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: poll Message-ID: <01I32M8QWPLE96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> *****> At 02:10 AM 4/2/96 +0100, HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: > > I have to ask this. It's totally off any sublect, but my friends keep > >telling me Anne McCaffrey is also Anne Rice/Rampling. Now, I don't believe > it. > >Anne McCaffrey supposedly lives in Ireland and raises horse. Anne Rice > >apparently lives in New Orleans doing God-knows-what. Help! I really want t o > >prove them wrong. Petty, but hey! they've been ganging up on me about it! > > > >Heather :) > > > > > Anne Rice is NOT (NOT NOT NOT!) Anne McCaffrey! She also > writes as Anne Rampling and some other name under which she > published an erotic Sleeping Beauty series, but the two have > nothing to do with each other! Anne Rice scares me! I saw her > do an interveiw for 20/20, and she looked like she was a walking > corpse! Well, the same could be said of me when I get up, so > never mind... Now, go prove your friends wrong! > > ~~~~~~~~~~Lady 'Reesa~~~~~~~~~~mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~) It occurs to me that Kerry was right. We are being taken for a ride. No way could anyone with 3 brain cells think that Anne Rice = Anne McCaffrey. It was an April Fool's joke, wasn't it? Please tell me it was. If not, I'll shall be disillusioned forever. Well, I am anyway, I didn't think that kind of prank would happen here.***** I'm very sorry to have to tell you, but it's true. They really told me this. I didn't believe them and have been trying to figure out how to disprove it. Really. I won't tell them you're disappointed in them, because there'd really be a war then. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:30:53 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why Kris will be king... Message-ID: <01I32MF9KIHE96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> It may not be odd at all, for two reasons: one Dirk and Talia must be her best friends or at least two of them. She'd know how close they were. Maybe when Jemmy was born, Talia and Dirk had one of his family they felt they should immortalize. Jemmy is older than the twins, right? two: she may have really felt guilty or pissed because she never saw Orthallen for what he was and since he was really the reason Kris got killed, she felt she had to do something for Kris' memory because if she had stopped Orthallen he never would have died. Or at least, probably not then. Does this make any sense? I'm not sure. Oh, well. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 15:31:43 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Re: Reading speed Message-ID: <02APR96.16771012.0025.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> I just have one question for you people: *where do you get all that money???* I'm a poor college student, and yes, I have a job, but I don't make enough slinging enchiladas to buy twenty books at a pop -- unless I didn't buy any others for three months. The library is my friend. I don't own copies of some of my favorite books, like Anno Dracula, The Winter Prince, or The Wolf of Winter, because I checked them out from the library, and I can never bring myself to pay for a book I've already read when I could use the money to read something new. (Well, almost never. My Misty collection was an exception, and The Last Rainbow, and a few others that I really loved.) I have a lot of books, but I can't store indefinitely. Sometimes I have to give away or resell or donate to the library the books I didn't like as well. Otherwise, I'd have no space for new books. For me, the goal is always to read more. I consider it a professional obligation HTH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:32:43 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: mailing Message-ID: <01I32MKC2JYG96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> Speaking of Kal'enel. Who else thinks she IS Kalanel (Vkandis' former consort)? Why did they split? When did she adopt the Shin'a'in as her pet mortals? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:35:02 -0500 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: *sigh* Message-ID: <960402163501_183391799-+AT+-mail04> In a message dated 96-04-02 05:33:13 EST, you write: > I wonder if they have a prank day in Velgarth, or would they >> incorporate that into Midsummer's Eve, do you think? Hmm. Something to >think >> about. >> >> Heather > >With Skif around, they wouldn't *need* such a day. They'd be having it >all of the year. > >Khenta Blaufalk > > Since we're talking about pranks, I thought I'd mention one that got played on ,e by an unknown person, and I am really annoyed. Someone sent me the attached letter, subscribing me to who knows what. I believe it was at 5 this morning, and I was asleep. If they mean 5 p.m., well it's not even 4 right now. I hope it was no one here. It may have been an ex-friend, but I doubt she would have been awake then either. Then again, she was in our school's Wizard of Oz. (hence the address) Hmmm. Lady Silvermoon :-( Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by soljan-+AT+-aol.com on Tue Apr 2 05:48:14 EST 1996 -------------------------------------------------------------- recipient: cuserial-+AT+-wpine.com subject: CU-SeeMe Demo Request Name: God Company: Heaven Address: 111 Yellow brick road City: NY State/Province: NY ZIP: 33111 Country: USA Phone: unlisted or 777 username: soljan-+AT+-aol.com Your demo serial number for Cu-SeeMe is DCNE-0110-0SGT-9KCE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:35:06 -0500 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ima hogg Message-ID: <960402163505_183391835-+AT+-emout06.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-04-02 08:15:35 EST, you write: >did you know that you can pronounce your name anyway you like, >regardless of how it's spelled? I could still spell my name as >Rozanna, but insist that it is pronounced as Ngunni-goe-goe if I >want, and it's perfectly legal. > > That reminds me of Monty Python! (Here we go again.) "Hello Mr. Luxury Yacht." "Oh, my name's spelled Luxury Yacht, but it's pronounced Throat-Warbler-Mangrove." ObMisty- There is no Monty Python in Velgarth Lady Silvermoon "May the moon light your path and guide you to your destiny." "A true wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 15:34:01 -0600 (CST) From: Chelsea Amberle Fischer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tarma Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Lady 'Reesa And Tina wrote: > anything by Lois McMaster Bujold (She has some hermaphrodite's in > her books. I Loooove Bel Thorne!) There's something akin to a hemaphrodite in Clive Barker's _Imajica_, too... he calls it a mystif... it's pretty cool. :) ---Chelsea ******************************************* Ream ember us poke in cent tense all mows stall ways con deigns word snot in ten did. ******************************************* http://www.unt.edu/~caf0001 caf0001-+AT+-jove.acs.unt.edu Chelsea Fischer ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:39:25 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: warnings Message-ID: <01I32MNA0T0U96YSW2-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> I've been writing to Tammy and she thinks I should post this. I'm a member of the SCI-Fi book club. Well, on certain books there are warnings that the content may offend certain readers. These include the Last Herald Mage series, some stuff about religion, and some erotic stuff. Now, considering what we know of LHM, is there any doubt that the warning is because Van, the main character is gay? If so, why isnt there a warning about the newer books? Firesong and An'desha are gay, aren't they? Also, what would you think the reaction would be for a complete homophobe who has started MPawn, gotten completely enthralled in it and then gotten to where Tylendel is gay? Would he/she/it throw it out the window, put aside their inhibitions because it's such a good book so far and read it, or what? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 17:07:48 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: <01I32NHUX9R696Z4TZ-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> *****From: Catherine Osborne > >On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Rosario Holsen-Baker wrote: > >> The sad part about this whole story is that I'm sure my brother >> could be reading, if not on the same level that I did when I was his age, >> at least damn close to it! (what a sentence!). Yet he DOESN'T. Absolutely >> infuriating. > >Your brother does that too, Jag? *Sympathy* Here's a third. Sigh. I constantly try to get my 15yr old brother to read. I even tried to make him read Diane Duane's Yound Wizards books. He took one look at the names "Nita" and "Kit" and burst out laughing. I *really* wanted to strangle him. I _did_ get him to read The Hobbit when he had the choice between that and some cheesy looking mystery novel in his English class. And he even started to read tLotR by himself! But, he didn't even get past the Prologue (the stupid thing about pipeweed -- which I skipped when I read it), and he refuses to try anything else. *sigh* >Well, I have two floor-to-ceilings, three shelves-worth (double-stacked) >in the closet (I was getting desperate) and two more above my desk. Plus >piles on radiator, magical chest (whenever I want to do a formal ritual I >have to heave a lot of books around ;), and of course, the floor. This is >not to mention the fact that about fifty percent of the books I read are >retrieved from my family's (pause to mentally count) five free-standings >and one room whose walls are entirely covered in books. I really envy all of you. Until I got a job, I only got books on by birthday or Christmas. So I only have 4 shelves (not bookcases) of books (about 170 or so books). Still, I've cleaned out the SF/F section of every library in about a five mile radius. When I say I need someone to drive me to the library (I'm too lazy to get my license), everyone groans, since they know that the only one I haven't read out completely is the Brooklyn Central Library, and I take over an hour there. :) >I didn't read the Hobbit til my wonderful seventh-grade teacher had us >read it in class (he was a monk, and the guy who taught me sort of >indirectly that it was ok to be a pagan (it's a long story)). Before >that, I'd been hooked on C.S. Lewis and Lloyd Alexander for years. I read The Hobbit in sixth grade (and had to do a book report on it). It took me a while to get through it. That's what started me on fantasy. By a few years later, I had given up the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew (what I used to read) for SF/F. > >I reread *a lot* if I liked the book, but generally only my favorite >parts and skim the rest, unless I get an urge to read the whole thing >again. This always happens with LHM, cause *all* the parts are my >favorite parts ;) I _always_ skip Van's trip from Forst Reach to Haven. The whole scene depresses me way to much.***** Let's see, my two cents: My brother is just like all the others. He takes after my mother, while I'm like my father and devour books like they were gummi bears. Yum! He got a book about baseball once and got about 15 pages in and stopped. After a year of it just sitting, I took to the used bookstore for credit. I don't think he's noticed it missing yet. And that was at least four years ago. I still read my Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys books. Not the new ones, but the old ones. The new ones are too Sweet Valley High-like. But I startes with sci-fi (Star Trek, to be specific) Tried to read McCaffrey's pern books, but I can't. I suffered my way through the Ireta Adventure, too. I liked the Rowan, but hated the other books in the series. Now I have Freedom's Landing and love it, I just hope the rest of this series doesn't go like the others. Hey, odd question, but are all your brothers named Chris? That might explain the phenomenon. I've come to the conclusion that all brothers named Chris are demons in disguise. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 17:10:57 -0500 (EST) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: McCaffrey/Rice/Rampling--Help! Message-ID: <01I32NVKZJ6Q96Z4TZ-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> *****Heather, You're going to be an editor, right? Well, think about this. They don't*have* to have the same picture on the back of a book to be the same person. Also, any biography can be a fiction peice. you should see the one I worte about me. It sounds real enough. And agin,one person can write several different ways. Trust me. Look at me, I can write in about three different styles, does it me that there are three different people running around inside my head? No, I don't think so. Oh well, it is a good argument to keep running. He he he he he. Talk to you later.***** His response. Any opinions for me to throw at him? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:23:59 -0500 (EST) From: Adrienne York To: Mercedes Lackey Mailing List Subject: Netiquette Message-ID: I would just like to ask people to *please* delete the parts of posts to which they are not directly responding. And please don't just tack all of whatever it is you're responding to at the bottom of your message. For one, it's annoying to read through something you've already read for a small message about a small point in the post. Two, for those who are paying for their mail byte by byte, this is costing them extra money and may mean they can't play anymore. Thank you, and have a good day or evening. ______________________________________________________________________________ L'Enfant Terrible The WitchQueen "You haven't found god yet? Why in havens' name not? God is everywhere... Have you tried buying a rubber chicken? Sometimes they have two gods." -Moi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:33:34 -0500 (EST) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why Kris will be king... Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Catherine Osborne wrote: > BTW, has anyone thought it odd that *Selenay* not Talia and Dirk named a > kid after Kris? This strikes me as odd.... > Depends on who had their kid first. Having *two* kids named after Kris would be a bit redundant. :) Does it say anywhere whose kids are older? *****LADY JAGUAR***** Leader of the Cat People Lady in Green LGMCB Conspirator #14, DHTBB Lobe #3! "Meddle not in the affairs of cats for you are soft-skinned, and blind at night." ********************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 17:29:02 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Re: Lyrics Message-ID: <02APR96.18882817.0093.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> Now here's a question on the topic of lyrics changed from printed to recorded versions of a Misty song: What's up with the end of "Threes"? In the back of the book, the last little bit refers to "your sister at your side," which makes sense, as the thing is about Tarma and Kethry, who are essentially sisters. Okay, cool, fine. But in the recording from Heralds, Harpers, & Havoc, they change it to "your shieldmate at your side." Pardon? Not only is it made abundantly clear in the books that "shieldmate" has explicitly sexual connotations that do not apply to Tarma & Kethry, making the whole meaning not only different, but also inaccurate, but I cannot think for the life of me why that change would have been made. "Sister" and "shieldmate" have the same number of syllables and the same stresses, so they scan IDENTICALLY. Obviously it was not for musical or scansion purposes. The only thing left is meaning, and again, the meaning is misleading at the very best. Can anyone else think why this might have been done? It never ceases to puzzle me. HTH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 17:35:48 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Re: Book lovers Message-ID: <02APR96.19004680.0093.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> Is this a common experience, this silliness of teachers asking for a list of books you've read? I've never encountered anything like that before. And while I've never had teachers throw a Hobbit Day (wow, though, that would have been so cool), I read both *Watership Down* and *Mists of Avalon* for English projects, 8th and 12th grades respectively, so I guess I've been lucky in having teachers who aren't actively disparaging toward fantasy. The whole conversation is making me a little down about my decision not to become an English teacher, actually. I could do all kinds of fun things But really, there are a lot of good English teachers in the world, and I meet way too many people who have never in their lives encountered a decent history teacher. So, nobly, I do my duty to the populace (sound Heraldic?) HTH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:44:14 -0500 From: SELIEGHE-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Random (I think :) Message-ID: <960402184413_460897284-+AT+-mail06> oh ye children must ye play so foolishly? relax be calm and quit spatting amongst thinselves, it is the unselieghe that fight twixt each other. HIGH CAVALIER/OF RECENTLY MERCERNARY CORMAC MAC ART TRIAN DE DANAAN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 18:55:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why Kris will be king... Message-ID: <01I32RHSP7LQ90NGHP-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: Catherine Osborne > >sorry you lot, but this message I tried to send before I unsub'ed for >spring break, but the listserv unsubed me before this one got there. So >I'm sending it again. You should have just postponed instead of unsubing. > > >BTW, has anyone thought it odd that *Selenay* not Talia and Dirk named a >kid after Kris? This strikes me as odd.... > Yes, I've thought that that was odd since Kris (the younger) was first mentioned. You'd think that of all people, Kris's two best friends would name their son after him. How old is Talia's son? Maybe Kris was born before him, and Selany wanted to honor Kris? Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ Bye bye boys. Have fun storming the castle! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 19:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Gate of Darkness.. (Spoilers) (Was re: David...) Message-ID: <01I32S5SCA2090NGHP-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu> From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu >> >>>A bit off the topic (but still on topic for the list :) ), do >>>"FAP", and "Mis-Conceptions" really bug anyone else? I kind >>>of liked them at first, but now they really annoy me. I think >>>I even prefer "Herald's Creed" to them. It seems like they are >>>only meant to be joke songs, and the joke pales really fast. >> >>Yeah...they're annoying...funny for the first dozen or so times, and then >>they get to the point where you're willing to listen to Herlad's Cree-- >>or maybe NOT...NOTHING Is worse than that song!!!!! <-----look, five! >>D.M. Sander's deserves DEATH for that song, if in a post-alive state >>she'll finish any other misty songs to be done... > > > >My question, what are you talking about. I still haven't gotten any of ML's >songs, though I did just get my Firebird catalog and saw about a million and >one things I want. > F.A.P. (Feline American Princess) and Mis-Conceptions are songs off of the album "Magic, Moondust & Melancholy". They are written by Misty and sung by Leslie Fish. FAP is a song from a cat's POV, and M-C is about someone who is a mix of _lots_ of species, as a result of an orgy her mother was in. They're cute and funny the first time or two, but they begin to _really_ get on your nerves. Like I said, they get to be as bad as Herald's Creed (the one terrible song on "Shadow Stalker") Mat accmjt-+AT+-vaxc.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ Bye bye boys. Have fun storming the castle! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:37:23 -0700 (MST) From: kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Message-ID: <199604030037.RAA26644-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com> Heyla! > Is this the Jesse Kirchner who wanted info on my Robert >Jordan fan club? Did you ever get the sample issue, and if so, >did you like it? Oh yeah! I just realized that you subscribed! >Uh, duh...sorry, it's late! (Well, okay, it's not, but darkness >has decended upon my mind...) Yep, that's me. Hi! Hmmm, speaking of the Robert Jordan club, I had a word search I ment to send...arrgh one more thing to do. Anyways, that's all from me for the time being. Until later... Zhai'helleva, Cheysuli i'halla shansu, Namarie, Peace be on your Sword, Bright Blessings, Moon guard your dreams, May the Gods of Terrasan protect you, "This is sickening! You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet!" - Kefka *************************************************** Jesse von Kirchner, Apprentice to His Lordship Chosa Dei, High Wizard of Ysaa-Den and rightful ruler of both north and south. *************************************************** .---. .-. __.|\__/|.__ | | / o o\ _ | | | | /( ) \ . | | | `-' | / \#/ \ _// | `-' .---' | |/ ( `---. `--. | | | |_/ | .--` (~\ | | / ~) | | __\_|| ||_ /__ | | _///_//_| |_\\__\\\___|_| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 10:40:48 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re gays Message-ID: <9604030040.AA22375-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Rozanna wrote: > I thought MZB's darkover books did. It was an accepted part of the > culture, although it was not encouraged. BTW, does anyone else have a > problem with the word tolerate? To me it implies "well, I don't like > what you do/stand for/ are, but I'll just not say anything about it" > I mean, you tolerate bad behaviour from a child (before you lose it > and want to smack the little beast for using the pots and pans for > drums when you are talking long distance) Exactly.. Bad connotations. Frankly even the old "accepted, but not encouraged" line is a little hypocritical. I mean, really, do people say "Oh we accept it, but don't encourage it" about things like heavy metal music? The fact that they feel compelled to add the qualifier is annoying by itself. I don't think people have ever been asked to go out and encourage people to become homosexual - at least not in the way that little addendum implies. It's one thing to provide support and assistance and yes dammit, encouragement to people who are or think they might be gay - that's all the gay population has ever advocated. It's another thing altogether to go out and become the gay activist equivalent of the Mormons: " Excuse me, but have you tried the gay lifestyle. We've got some pamphlets here. We'd just like to talk for five minutes. You really ought to try it y'know.." etc etc ad infinitum. That little addendum strongly implies the latter and in some senses it's insulting to the shaych population as well as the intelligence of the rest of us generally. And I'm not even going to comment on the 'tolerated' attitude. Or the 'tolerated but don't flaunt it' arguments. Hmmm, I think I'm ranting at the unbiased anyway (I wouldn't say preaching, but ranting perhaps.. *grin*), so I'll stop now. On a slightly different note (heck, maybe even an ObMisty) - the word 'shaych' is incredibly useful. In current Australian English (and as far as I know in English generally), there's no one word that can be used for the shaych population that's considered politically correct - ie that can be used without excluding some group. Even 'gay' implies male.. Cheers, Kerry. "Remember how they taught you. / How much of it was fear? Refuse to hand it down. / The legacy stops here!" - Melissa Etheridge from "Silent Legacy" ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 453 *********************************