MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 456 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: re gays by "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" 2) Re: re gays by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) 3) Re: Stef's duties was re: Companion-names by "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" 4) Re: re gays by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) 5) Re: book lovers by Becky Anne Christensen 6) This friend of yours, I dunno by Heather Watson 7) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 447 by Birgit Hanel 8) Is this a put-on? by Heather Watson 9) Re: Tarma by "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" 10) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by "AMY E. BAUER" 11) Re: Stef's duties was re: Companion-names by Katherine M Brielmaier 12) Re: re gays by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 13) Re: book lovers by Mannaheim 14) goodbye... by CHONNI 15) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by Tammy Harris 16) Re: Tarma by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 17) Re: *sigh* by "deanca" 18) Re: book lovers by "deanca" 19) Re: book lovers by "deanca" 20) Re: Book lovers by "deanca" 21) Re: Collabs, was Re: Fire Rose (SPOILERS) by "deanca" 22) re: Hamadryads by McCaffrey's White Dragon 23) Re: ima hogg by "deanca" 24) Totally TOTALLY off-subject! by "deanca" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:48:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re gays Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Kerry Mealing wrote: > On a slightly different note (heck, maybe even an ObMisty) - the word > 'shaych' is incredibly useful. In current Australian English (and as far > as I know in English generally), there's no one word that can be used for > the shaych population that's considered politically correct - ie that can > be used without excluding some group. Even 'gay' implies male.. How about this one, then. In American English, the gay/les/bi/trans/ally community has adopted the term "family." As in, "Is he 'family'?" or "Ellen DeGeneres has *got* to be 'family'!" This might explain the continuing popularity of the song "We are Family." *grin* May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Eu guardo a luz das estrelas a alma de cada folha Sem folhas nao tem vida, Sem folhas nao tem nada, Salve as folhas! Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:48:56 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re gays Message-ID: <199604031648.JAA28514-+AT+-usr3.primenet.com> >On a slightly different note (heck, maybe even an ObMisty) - the word >'shaych' is incredibly useful. In current Australian English (and as far >as I know in English generally), there's no one word that can be used for >the shaych population that's considered politically correct - ie that can >be used without excluding some group. Even 'gay' implies male.. > >Cheers, >Kerry. > "Remember how they taught you. / How much of it was fear? > Refuse to hand it down. / The legacy stops here!" > - Melissa Etheridge from "Silent Legacy" I have always wondered that, personally. Why is the word "gay" supposed to mean guys only? And women get the word lesbian, which makes it sound like some sort of disease. I actually try to use shaych all the time, and it's one of those things that I don't mind explaining. In Valdemar (HAH! My ObMisty!) the same word is used for both preferances, which implies to me that they are both equally accepted. How come guys get a word that means they're happy about it, and women don't? Could it have something to do with the general mindset of a couple decades ago (Okay, maybe we haven't come out of it yet...) that a woman couldn't be happy without a man in her life, and therefore could not be "gay" about not being attracted to them? Does anyone know the root of the word "lesbian"? It might be interesting. Just my $0.02 worth ~~~~~~~~~~Lady 'Reesa~~~~~~~~~~mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~) "In a way, Sam had been like the clothes he'd worn; all ) one color on the surface, pure evil at first glance...but ) that shadow was supported and held together by a ) thousand other patches that made him what he was...a ) thousand shades of grey and a cluster of patches of ) rainbow, covered unfairly by the blanket definition of evil" ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:53:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Stef's duties was re: Companion-names Message-ID: If this list is destroyed by a lightning bolt from the sky, it is Jake's fault!!! Of course, agnostic and x-ianity survivor that I am, I was ROTFL. On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Jake (Rynath *OIB*) wrote: > Tired of the same old, boring, communion wafers? The sacreligiously > dull colors, the faithless crunch, and the heretical aftertaste? > > Body of Christ indeed. > > Now you can spice up that sacreament with JEEZ WHIZ. So when Father > Murphy says "Body of Christ?" You can say "A-MEN" to that. > > JEEZ WHIZ, mmmm. Now *that's* good communion. > May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Eu guardo a luz das estrelas a alma de cada folha Sem folhas nao tem vida, Sem folhas nao tem nada, Salve as folhas! Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:59:21 -0700 (MST) From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa And Tina) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re gays Message-ID: <199604031659.JAA16983-+AT+-usr6.primenet.com> At 03:08 PM 4/3/96 +0100, Elisa Shapiro wrote: >I've been trying to make a page with information on gay pos books. If >you guys know of any (and I'm sure you do) it would be really cool if you >could send theyr titles, authors and a two line summary. It would make >my life much easier ;) > > - Elisa > http://mmm.mbhs.edu/~eshapiro > Try looking at the alternative sexualities in fantasy and science fiction list (Wow! that's a mouthfull. And I just love the name "Alternative". Alternative to WHAT?) I can't for the life of my Comapnion (She's been awfully mouthy lately, so I'm willing to gamble...) remember the url. If you do a search for Mercedes Lackey on Alta Vista it comes up. It's huge! Best of luck... ~~~~~~~~~~Lady 'Reesa~~~~~~~~~~mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~) "In a way, Sam had been like the clothes he'd worn; all ) one color on the surface, pure evil at first glance...but ) that shadow was supported and held together by a ) thousand other patches that made him what he was...a ) thousand shades of grey and a cluster of patches of ) rainbow, covered unfairly by the blanket definition of evil" ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: > Alas, I am no where near the level you people are. ~sigh~ I love to read, > but the books I read are all at the library. I only buy them if I truly > love them and have money. I have plenty of shelf space. Only three shelves, > and two are half empty! They aren't very big either. :-( Now I'm getting > depressed. My mom doesn't often b.uy me books that I've read because, > "Haven't you already read this book? It's silly for me to buy it..." > ~Sigh~ And you all read fast too! I am a fast reader, but not as fast as > some of you. I can read probaly all the Arrow's in about, oh, between 3-5 > hours. I read one of the Winds in one day. I think it took me 4 hours. I > don't remember. Piers Anthony's Xanth books I whip through. I think I'm > down to two hours. I always thought I was really fast. At my school, we > take these reading tests, called DRP. (Degrees of Reading Power) you read a > short passage and answer multiple choice questions. I have gotten in the > 99th percentile for 5 years now. That means I'm a college level. I'm a > freshman in high school. My sister's the same way. Question- How many > people here who read fast are really annoyed when someone reads aloud in > class and they go really _slow_. I hate that! It also bugs me when they red > without the punctuation. > "Then she screamed and ran and the guy chased her yelling stop her stop her > she's getting away and then the hero appeared and..." I think that's enough > out of me for now. > I've been going on far to long. > > Silvermoon I'm lucky, my mother loves books like I do, so between the two of us, we have lots and lots and lots of books. 3 bookcases, 5 boxes, and a closet full of books. It's so wonderful. Most of the time, I'll read a book from the library, and if it was good, then I'll go buy it. Then I have less of the rotten books. Unless of course I had to buy them for English, like Ordinary People, has anyone ever read that book? I hated every last bit of it! Anyways, I read fast as well, always the first person done reading stuff in our classes. Usually when we start reading out loud, I take a turn at the beginning, then read on ahead silently by myself, while the other people read. Otherwise I forget what's going on, Today....we...went....fishing...on...the...lake. Everything....was... a...lot....of...fun. Then when you get to those oh so hard words like, impossible, sarcastic, telepathic, or community. We have tests like that here in California, they're CAT tests. We have to do that same thing, with reading a story, and answering questions. They have them in all subjects, and two different reading tests. I'm usually in the 99th percentile, lowest I've ever gotten was a 93. It was a bad thinking day. Lady Becky The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. --Dr. Suess ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 11:21:39 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: This friend of yours, I dunno Message-ID: <03APR96.12269745.0081.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> Shadowspun, this friend you have is beginning to cause trouble. Tell him/her that he/she is full of it. I don't know what kind of proof to offer you on the Anne debate. If you don't believe the biography that was recently published about Anne Rice, then that's out. I've never met Anne McCaffrey, but I know people who have, and they certainly did not mention that she bore any resemblance to the self-proclaimed Queen of the Vampires. I have seen an A&E special about Anne Rice, and she did not strike me as the type of person who has any interest in perpetrating a great hoax on the bookbuying populace of the world by changing her name, history, and writing completely. But again, if you don't count that as "proof," what can I say? I've never seen them together. But then, I've never seen Sidney Poitier and Langston Hughes together either, but I bloody well know they're not the same person. Tell your friend that it just ain't so. Then there's the Cher and Angelica Huston conversation. I don't suppose you saved any of the posts full of reasons that might answer his question, so I will explain. (No, there is too much. I will sum up.) Tarma shena Tale'sedrin is supposed to be extremely thin, mannish, and almost sexless in appearance. Cher is curved, overtly female, and gosh darn it, sexy. Ms. Huston is much thinner, composed of more straight lines and smaller breasts and hips. Attractive, yes, but in a different way -- a more Tarma way. Oh, and boys and girls, while I'm at it, can we lay off the venom toward certain songs? I think I get by now that there's a contingent of you who don't much care for "Herald's Creed." It's not my favorite song, either, but I'm getting kind of sick of hearing how much it sucks. And if you're tired of "FAP" and "Mis-Conceptions," fast-forward through them, or dub off the songs you DO want to hear over and over again onto a mixed tape of your favorite Misty songs. People have been bitching about that bloody "Herald's Creed" song since the day I subscribed to this list, many moons ago, and I draw the line at death threats toward D.F. Sanders, whose work, for the most part, I really like. This horse is dead, guys! Put a leash on your rage and pain, and just don't listen to the song! HTH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:31:27 +0200 (METDST) From: Birgit Hanel To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 447 Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Katherine M Brielmaier wrote: > > ObMisty: There are no World Series games in Valdemar. In fact, I don't > recall any mention at all of team sports at all....anybody else? > > 's e do bheatha > > Kaatje If you don't count the Blues ganging up on someone, like they did with Talia, no, there aren't. Btw: Does the inn's name Compass Rose have anything to do with that book by...Ursula K. LeGuin ? Is this some sort of allusion? Bis denne Khenta Blaufalk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 11:35:25 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Is this a put-on? Message-ID: <03APR96.12517703.0081.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> Okay, now several people have said that they can read the entire Arrows trilogy in a time span that varies from response to response, but falls somewhere between 2 and 4 hours. I've been doing the math here, and I'm finding this pretty hard to swallow. Are you guys sure about this? In paperback, each Arrows book is, I'm estimating, around 300 pages long. Not having copies of the paperbacks, I can't be sure, but that's about the length I remember them being. Using a median speed of 3 hours, that's one book, or 300 pages, per hour. Five pages per minute, guys? I read faster than anyone I know, and at my top speed, I read two pages a minute -- maybe three if it's a book like one of the Arrows books that I've read a billion times before, in which case I'm just skimming, essentially. Can you really sit down with a book, read for sixty seconds, and tell me what happened in the last five pages? Again, I read pretty darn fast. About fifty pages to the hour -- ranging from 40 to 60, depending on whether I've read it before, the style of the writing, how much I'm enjoying the book, and other factors. But around 50 per. So a typical, pretty-long, 400 page fantasy book will take me usually seven hours to read, maybe plus a little. I can't quite fathom being able to read it in two or three. Not that I'm calling anyone dishonest, but those of you who are making such extravagant claims, please sit down and read for ten minutes, then figure out exactly how many pages you've just covered. It may be that it always *seems* like it takes less time than it does. I happen to know my reading speed because I schedule in my reading time -- I have two hours here, how far can I get in this book before I have to be at work? So I'm quite conscious of these things. Call me skeptical. Five pages a minute? Well, I'm a Missourian from generations back, and they don't call us the Show-Me state for nothing. I have to be dubious now and then. HTH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:47:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Over the Insanity Horizon, and Accelerating" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tarma Message-ID: Hello again! You wanted to know what flaming was, so I thought I would show you. IF YOU AREN'T ADDRESSING SOME POINT IN A POST, DON'T QUOTE THE WHOLE THING! SNIP THE PARTS THAT YOU AREN'T TALKING ABOUT!! YOU ARE WASTING BANDWIDTH!!! AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!! *grin* There, that was a mild sample. Now you know what flaming is like. Don't you consider yourself blessed? More constructively, one of the things that will irritate people on this list (and anywhere else on the net) is including the text from a long post in your reply and then either not addressing the issues in the quoted post at all, or only giving a one-line comment. Typically, you should only quote a post that you are specifically replying to, and you should only quote those parts that are pertinent to your points. So, for example, if you look at the post of yours that I have appended to this e-mail, you will see that your comments have no real relation to the quoted text. Since you are a newbie, I assume that this is because your e-mail program automatically quotes the entire message when you reply to a post. One thing to do is look and see if you can set it to give you the option of quoting the full post or not quoting anything. Also, you can edit out (delete) the parts of the quoted post that aren't important. You can indicate that you have done this (if you want to--it's not required) by putting a little message in brackets saying something like [much snippage] or [deletia]. The main problem with long quotes, etc. is that many people have to pay for their connection to the internet. Several services figure charges based on how much data is transferred in a post. So a long post costs them more money than a short post. Also, some systems have limited transfer facilities and long posts cause them to bog down. If this happens to often, there is always the risk that services such as this mailing list will be banned from those sites, denying the people there the opportunity to participate in this group. Anyway, hope that you didn't take offense at this and that you continue to hang out with us. Welcome to the group! Ken start quoted message (this is an example of what not to do): On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Linda,Paul Bryant wrote: > Hi, My name is Linda and I am brand spanking new to this wonderful Misty > world. I just discovered this site a couple of nights ago and it's great to > find that there are really other people out there who love these books as > much as I do. I can't even count the number of times I have read LHM. I > replied to another person and will ask you the same think I asked her. As I > said earlier, I am very, very new to all this, and don't really know the > etiquette of Cyberchat or of this list. I apologize ahead of time if I do > something stupid and offend. It is not intentional, just stupidity. I > promise to learn. Anyway, didn't have a lot to say right now except hello, > and the Havens bless Misty! By the way, where are you located? I live near > Dallas, Texas. > > Linda at > > At 11:19 PM 4/2/96 +0100, you wrote: > >On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Kerry Mealing wrote: > > > >> > >> Question then, even if you postulate even a very skewed normal distribution > >> with a 12% behaviourally homosexual portion, that would still only imply > >> roughly a 30/40% behaviourally heterosexual portion, leaving, as you said, > >> quite a large proportion in between. I guess it depends though on what you > >> mean by bisexuality. ( It's the maths side of me coming out and > >> yelling "I wanna see a graph!"). Point being, I think you & Heather were > >> more or less saying the same thing. > > > >Kewl. I never sat down and actually did the math to figure the skewed > >distribution curve, and where the heaviest concentration would fall. I > >keep meaning to, but I am not a math type and stats is just a sideline > >for me. The thing is, Heather and I only seem to be saying the same > >thing if you aren't familiar with the Kinnsey scale. Here it is: > > > >0 - Exclusively Heterosexual > >1 - Heterosexual with some same-sex incidents > >2 - Bisexual with a preference for opposite sex > >3 - True Bisexual > >4 - Bisexual with a preference for same sex > >5 - Homosexual with some opposite-sex incidents > >6 - Exclusively Homosexual > > > >My own feeling is that the mean is somewhere around 2 (possibly even 1.5, > >but there is no strong evidence for this claim). I think that Heather is > >saying the that the mean is around 3 and follows a normal random > >distribution. My personal feeling is that there is a strong possibility > >that the distribution may be an inverse curve with a low point at 3 and > >high points at the ends of the scale. Certainly, in terms of what people > >are comfortable with as a self-identity, this seems to be true. However, > >as the recent Chicago stats I cited earlier show, you can't trust > >self-identification in these matters. Anyway, I have never actually seen > >a real sample distribution plotted on the scale, so who knows. Does > >anyone have any better info? > > > > > >> Another question - I get the impression that Heather thinks that the > >> incidence of bisexuality in a population is quite a bit higher than you > >> - I don't know the figures, hence the question - but is it possible that > >> this is a gender difference? > > > >Could be, although I doubt it. Could be an age difference. Or it could > >be that I have a tendency towards more conservative hypotheses in the > >absence of conflicting data. I am a great believer in Occam's Razor. > >This latter hypothesis is more likely to be the correct one. > > > > > >May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, > > > >Cennydd, > > > >Mage of the Green Silences. > > > >Eu guardo a luz das estrelas > >a alma de cada folha > >Sem folhas nao tem vida, > >Sem folhas nao tem nada, > >Salve as folhas! > > > >Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife > >Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously > >Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb > >kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me > > > > > End quoted message. May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Eu guardo a luz das estrelas a alma de cada folha Sem folhas nao tem vida, Sem folhas nao tem nada, Salve as folhas! Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:56:26 EST From: "AMY E. BAUER" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: <5CED4770B7C-+AT+-zebu.cvm.msu.edu> For those of you with delinquent sibs, there is hope. I haven't really managed (or tried recently, I admit) to turn my brother on to fantasy and sci fi, but I do catching him reading a book every so often. He's also become a great college student and will be studying in Costa Rica next fall. I know I probably sound overly proud, but I never thought that we'd even speak to one another at this stage in our lives when I was younger. amy obMisty: Misty seems very knowledgable in her writings and authors notes about raptor behavior and handling. Does anyone know if she is a falconer? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:16:19 -0600 (CST) From: Katherine M Brielmaier To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Stef's duties was re: Companion-names Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Jake (Rynath *OIB*) wrote: > Tired of the same old, boring, communion wafers? The sacreligiously > dull colors, the faithless crunch, and the heretical aftertaste? > > Body of Christ indeed. > > Now you can spice up that sacreament with JEEZ WHIZ. So when Father > Murphy says "Body of Christ?" You can say "A-MEN" to that. > > JEEZ WHIZ, mmmm. Now *that's* good communion. > > *Kaatje collapses to the floor, laughing hysterically* As a lifelong "skeptical Catholic" that sig is one of the funniest things I have read in a LONG time. As the roommate of a Protestant-turned-Catholic (who is fond of putting those damned "inspirational messages" all over the place---not to offend anyone, but I *hate* those things) I find it even funnier. ObMisty: there probably aren't any "inspirational message" calendars or greeting cards in Valdemar. In fact, there isn't much mention of calendars at all, though I assume there must be one....because that astronomer-Herald (the one who "slipped and fell" from his observatory) knew when that astronomical event was taking place. And just how long is a candle-mark, anyway? I always assumed an hour, but then I found a mention of "hours" in BTS. Is that just an oversight? 's e do bheatha, Kaatje ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re gays Message-ID: <01I33W4YJZKY8Y8S46-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> Kerry, about shaych, you are so right. Of course, if I use it, I have to explain it, but hey, that's actually part of the fun. Seeing my mother's face the first time I used the word shaych was really cool. She got this look on her face that says, "I know my daughter is strange, so I'm not sure if I really want to ask what she means." My high school friends were the same way. On my campus, we have a gay/lesbian support group. Now, Johnstown is not what you could call a very open campus. I was just speaking to my friend last night about it. (I also found out that he's gay last night. Apparently it was obvious to almost everybody but me. I had to ask. Should I feel good or bad about that?) He said they have to meet at really odd times and places to avoid being pegged as gay on this campus. Disgusting, isn't it? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 11:25:33 -0800 (PST) From: Mannaheim To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: It scares me when I hear people saying that they finish the Arrows tri in one day. I thought I was SLOW! I guess not since I read about one an hour. Anyway, ObMisty: I have noticed that in most of Misty's trilogies, the first book of the tri was used to introduce the characters and let you get to know them, the second book was used to develop the characters, and the third was the sort of final/ending type thing in which they did something special or made a contribution to Valdemar, Karse, etc. The only series that she doesn't seem to be doing this with is the Winds/Storms trilogies which all go together, and have an ongoing problem, and MANY characters. I also noticed that it seems as though the gods have been conspiring to bring people together in order that they could solve the problem of the energy waves. I'll stop now since it is a bit long. :) Zhai'helleva Mannaheim (')___(') `(o o)' +-=-=-=vVVv-(_)-vVVv=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | - Mannaheim - 0 Hackers | | Clark College `\|_ do it | | Computer Science | ` -+AT+- 'til | | Vancouver, WA /`\__ they | | patw-+AT+-clark.edu _\ ' drop! | +-=-=-=-=VV-=-=VV-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ \/ _ \/ `\ /' `\,_,/' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 11:40:38 -0800 (PST) From: CHONNI To: mercedes-lackey list Subject: goodbye... Message-ID: Well, just thought i'd say 'ciao before I have to unsubscribe for the next month or so. hopefully no longer than that... I plan on having read at least one of Silver Grphyon, Fire Rose and The Eagle and the Nightingales by the time i get a new account (graduating from college means finding a new address). Wish me luck as you read this (no point in replying since I'll be off the list ) as I intrepidly attack a pile of books to prepare for my finals after Easter. Until I return... Fare thee well, and Wind to thy Wings! *************************************************************************** "What are we doing tonight, Brain?""The same thing we do everynight, Pinky." "What's that?" "I have no idea." ******************************************Herald Chonni Brightwolf********* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:39:43 -0500 From: Tammy Harris To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: On Wed, April 3, Lady Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > I remember when I read the Hobbit in second grade my teacher would always > get frustrated > with me because I would read in class. We would have a 30 minute free > reading time, and at the end he would tell us to put our books down, and > he would read out loud from some book. Well, I would be so completely > engrossed in the book that I didn't even hear him. Sometimes he would > have to call my name out two ot three times before I would realize that > there was another universe, that I lived in, that demanded my attention. I know what you mean! I once had a teacher walk over, yank a book out of my hands, and throw it across the room. Apparently, she thought I should be listening to what she was saying...... Silly woman! > I also did the three in the morning, flashlight under the covers reading > thing. Actually, I still do sometimes. Something about my parents > insisting that sleep is more important than books, what do they know? I've been known to read until 3 or 4 in the morning, when my eyes start burning and tearing. "Hmmm, maybe I should go to bed--it's *what* time? I have to get up in 2 or 3 hours." So much for reading a while after dinner...... Tammy "It's time to ask yourself what you believe" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tarma Message-ID: <01I33X2GO1FM8Y8S46-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> I was just deleting messages when I ran across this, by HTH *****handydandy SFBC omnibus edition of Vows and Honor***** What is an omnibus? I feel foolish asking this, I hope you all know. Heather ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:56:56 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: *sigh* Message-ID: <199604031953.OAA04885-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by > soljan-+AT+-aol.com on Tue Apr 2 05:48:14 EST 1996 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > recipient: cuserial-+AT+-wpine.com > subject: CU-SeeMe Demo Request > Name: God > Company: Heaven > Address: 111 Yellow brick road > City: NY > State/Province: NY > ZIP: 33111 > Country: USA > Phone: unlisted or 777 > username: soljan-+AT+-aol.com > Your demo serial number for Cu-SeeMe is DCNE-0110-0SGT-9KCE I don't know about who subscribed you, but isn't CU-SeeMe Videoconferencing software? You know, like for using you PC as a video phone? -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:01:44 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: <199604031958.OAA04913-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > > :) thought just occured to me :) :) for those of you still in school, > > > don't you just love it when the English Lit prof wants you to write > > > down the names of all the books you've read? snicker > We had to do that just recently, it was a real pain. > ME: "Are you sure you want me to write down all of the books I've read?" > MRS. STRIBLING: "Yes, all the ones you can remember." > ME: "All the books I've read, ever? Including like elementary school?" > MRS. STRIBLING: "Exactly." > ME: "Do you know how many books I've read? I can't write them all down in > ten minutes." > MRS. STRIBLING: "Well, then, the ones you've read in the past few years." > ME: "All the books I've read in the last few years?" > etc. etc. etc. > Then it gets really interesting, because I have to do the same thing in > piano, imagine same as above, except with Mrs. McGaugh, and replace books > with piano pieces. It's a whole bunch of fun...yeah, right. Absolutely! Proff.-Well, just how many classics you have read. me-Ever? proff.-well, since High School. Me-Really? Proff-In college? -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:05:26 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: <199604032002.PAA04928-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > >ObMisty: I wonder what is one Misty's bookshelves? what's _on_ Misty's book shelves? interesting question. It sure would be cool to browse. ;) -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:07:59 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Book lovers Message-ID: <199604032004.PAA04931-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> I also only have books numbering in the hundreds, not thousands. what can I do? me-+AT+-college, money-+AT+-someplace! There aren't even any used bookstores within a sveral hour drive of here that I know of. -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:15:05 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Collabs, was Re: Fire Rose (SPOILERS) Message-ID: <199604032012.PAA04952-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > This may be off the topic a bit, but am I the only person who doesn't > > like the books Misty collaborates on? I never seem to get very far in them. > > They always put me to sleep or something. > No, seems as if you're not the only one: > I just *tried* to read Fortress of something or other and didn't even > make it to chapter 3. > And this Piers Anthony-collab... oh, shudder. No, we won't start *that > discussion again*... Well, I still stick by "Knight Of Ghosts and Shadows" and "Summoned To Tourney" no matter what any of you say! They are collaborations and are awesome! I also enjoyed Rediscovery. I had a few of the Darkover books before it came out. My High school Librarian gave me an old copy of the first Darkover novel: "Darkover:Landfall" as a graduation gift. -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: McCaffrey's White Dragon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Hamadryads Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, Chelsea Amberle Fischer wrote: > Another place hamadryads show up: Piers Anthony's Incarnations of > > P.S. I know, I know, I said *the* name.... sorry!! :) > COWER, mere mortal! As I bellow a MIGHTY 888b 888 d8b 888 8888b 888 Y8P 888 88888b 888 888 888Y88b 888 888 888 888 Y88b888 888 888 888 Y88888 888 Y8P 888 Y8888 888 " 888 Y888 888 888 (now where did I put that herring?) /\\,/\\, LEMUR!-==UDIC==-!RUMEL /| || || cCaffrey's White Dragon Still talking to that White Coconut! || || || | ||=|= || |Thus the theory states that, not only does Gyrfalcon have rocks ~|| || || |in his head, but evil ones at that!!!!!****%%%~~<---look 5! |, \\,\\,|4* 3% 2~ & A Partridge In A Pear Tree) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:42:57 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ima hogg Message-ID: <199604032040.PAA05121-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> . Um, well, there really was a woman named Ima > > Hogg who lived in Texas; her father was one of the early wildcatters who > > make his pile early--and was so proud of what he had made of himself > > that that was the name he gave his only child. Further, he stipulated in > > his will that in order for her to inherit, she must never change her > > name, and if she married her husband would have to change his surname to > > Hogg. Well, I think I'd just haf'ta get a cool nick and go by that! -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:47:08 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Totally TOTALLY off-subject! Message-ID: <199604032044.PAA05167-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> Did anyone else watch Kindred: The Embraced on FOX last night? It's a new Vampire show based on Vampire: The Masquerade RPG. What'd you all think of it? I thought some of the portrayal of vampires was neat, but I did think that the mortal cop was a wee bit stupid. I mean, how long could one have an affair with a person before noticing they didn't have a heartbeat?! OB Misty: Am I the only one who wants more Andre? I thought Misty did her vampire very well. I'd love to see her write more vamp stuff. -Free Bard Oriole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You're SO nice! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE! I'm not nice I'm not good, I'm just RIGHT!..." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" (written by Stephen Sondheim) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 456 *********************************