MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 463 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Root of lesbian by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 2) big list-permission by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 3) Big List(again) form by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 4) Re: Why Kris will be king... by Mannaheim 5) Re: warnings by Mannaheim 6) Re: big list by "deanca" 7) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> 8) Re: big list by Ian Macdonald 9) Re: book lovers by EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org 10) Re: Book lovers by Mannaheim 11) Re: this 'n' that by Becky Anne Christensen 12) Re: Jennifer Roberson's e-mail addy by Mannaheim 13) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by Chelsea Amberle Fischer 14) Re: Big List(again) form by "deanca" 15) Re: big list-permission by "deanca" 16) Re: Book lovers by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 17) Re: Book lovers by "deanca" 18) poll--last chance by Tammy Harris 19) Re: McCaffery/Rice/Rampling by "deanca" 20) Re: McCaffrey/Rice/Rampling--Help! by "deanca" 21) Re: Out of the Woods, definitely off-topic by "deanca" 22) Re: People names (was re:companion names) by "deanca" 23) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by "deanca" 24) Re: Big List(again) form by Adrienne York 25) Re: warnings by "deanca" 26) Re: big list by HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu 27) Re: Why Kris will be king... by "deanca" 28) Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) by Rosario Holsen-Baker 29) Unbonded choosings by Lisa Gregory 30) Re: Is this a put-on? by "Sarah Stock" 31) Re: Jennifer Roberson's e-mail addy by kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 10:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Root of lesbian Message-ID: <01I3ANN3E2MG8ZDWL8-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> I don't know about that word, "dyke." I'm not lesbian or bisexual, but I've always felt uncomfortable when my mother uses that word. Maybe the bad connotation really rubs against my opinion that my mother should watch her own language when she yells at me for mine. Besides, she's always insulting someone when she uses it. Shadowspun. }) (<--my sleepy face-i'm dreaming about chocolate chip cookie dough Ben & Jerry's ice cream.) PS-I found that reference to the Wind Lords last night/this morning. Puts an interesting spin on the Iftel wall. Also, I found a reference to a woman challenging the high priest (Vkandis) for his position. Daren says the rumor has it that she "affected the robes and false beard of a man, and styled herself the 'True-born Son of the Sun'" Mind you these are rumors Daren is hearing, but it sounds like Solaris (if that is actually referring to her) is really getting worked over by the guys creating these little stories. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: big list-permission Message-ID: <01I3AO0HFLKY8ZDWL8-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> Before I go any further with this list and send any info to Becky for the page (which sounds like a great idea to me, btw) I want any of you who DO NOT want your names, addresses or whatever on either the list or the page to email me and tell me. Everybody else, I still want you to email me and give me express permission. This should clear up any legalities, because i think there are some. Shadowspun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 11:17:44 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Big List(again) form Message-ID: <01I3AOY23JTU8ZDWL8-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> I figured out the form this list is going to take. It goes as so: Real Name: (aka) email address homepage address (if there is one) age college city, state (if one)/home city, state (street, if you want it) favorite series/book/character (definitely optional) group affiliation (none/OIB/MIW/LIG/etc...) This is it. If there is any of this info you don't want put on the list, either don't send it to me, or tell me so I can get rid of it if I already have it. I'll send each of you what I have of you so far. It's not much, all culled from what you've said or written, so... Am I being rude? I'm reading this letter and it sounds to me like it's rude. If it is, I'm sorry. I think I might have mentioned I had no sleep last night. I may put a little tidbit down as the fave area and switch it with the affiliation. Tell me if you want that. Shadowspun Am I getting myself in over my head, and Becky with me? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:31:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mannaheim To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why Kris will be king... Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, Catherine Osborne wrote: > sorry you lot, but this message I tried to send before I unsub'ed for > spring break, but the listserv unsubed me before this one got there. So > I'm sending it again. > > I\/ Catherine Osborne "After great pain, > I\/ Sundancer a formal feeling comes." > I cosborne-+AT+-sidwell.edu --Emily Dickinson > I http://www.sidwell.edu/~cosborne/ > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, The Mage of Green Silences wrote: > > > > > I still don't see any indication of which twin will get the throne. > > Elspeth just thinks that "one" of them will be. But she doesn't seem to > > indicate any idea of *which* one. Oh, I'll admit, given the clear > > patriarchal structure of Valdemar's culture, Kris will prob get the > > crown, but there is certainly enough laxness in the customs to let his > > sister rule. > > Yeah, the first time around I read the quotation as "one twin would > rule. (no sex specified.)" But then, when I looked again -- Elspeth says, > "And the other would be *King's* Own" (emphasis mine.) Not Monarch's Own, > but King's Own. This would seem to support the position that Kris would > be getting the kingship. > > BTW, has anyone thought it odd that *Selenay* not Talia and Dirk named a > kid after Kris? This strikes me as odd.... > > I\/ Catherine Osborne "After great pain, > I\/ Sundancer a formal feeling comes." > I cosborne-+AT+-sidwell.edu --Emily Dickinson > I http://www.sidwell.edu/~cosborne/ > > > I don't see Kris being king at ALL! He didn't get the position anyway since he died. But that's beside the point (and yes, I did cry when Kris died). I dont remember very well, so I might be making a fool out of myself, but arent the twins both male? If they arent, that would imply that the male twin will be king, and the female twin will be kings own, right? Just my $0.03 :) Mannaheim -=-=-=-patw-+AT+-clark.edu-=-=-=-Mannaheim-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "He teaches like Speedy Gonzalez on a caffeine high." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mannaheim To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: warnings Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Todd Sherman wrote: > >Well...coming at this in a different direction: I know that *I* would throw > >a book in the trash if it's main hero was a homophobe. Then I'd tell > >everyone not to read it! (Of course, if part of the plot was for the > >person to *cease* being a homophobe, that would be different.) > > > That makes me think of a ObMisty... > > Why is it that all the villians seem like they are either homophobic, or > homosexual? > > I guess this isn't even just about Misty's creations... Other fantasy > authors often do the same. > > Monolith > Man of stone > > I think the reason that most villains seem either homophobic or homosexual is because the authors cannot imagine a person being any other way. They probably think that if you're straight you're homophobic, and if you're homosexual then you're homosexual, and that's that. Mannaheim -=-=-=-patw-+AT+-clark.edu-=-=-=-Mannaheim-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "He teaches like Speedy Gonzalez on a caffeine high." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:49:27 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: big list Message-ID: <199604081646.MAA05825-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > This just gave me a great idea. I'd be more than happy to make a > homepage fr the list. With everyone's info, and links to their homepages, > if available. I'd only stick the info up their that you would want, I > understand you probably don't want everyone in the world to know > everything about you. Maybe just name, e-mail, homepage, and *brief* > description. (We're talking like 3 lines.) Well, sounds cool actually. Chrys Amy Dean Free Bard Oriole (Vrondi on IRC) deanca-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ and http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/celtic/celtic.htm How's that? -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 08 Apr 96 13:37:02 EDT From: Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: <960408173702_102744.2515_GHT128-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Shadowspun wrote: > Yay! What ages did everybody start reading? Mom keeps telling me I startes > reading when I was two. My mom *swears* I was reading the New York Times at 1 yr 6 months.... I'halla shansu, Rynath / Jake House Champion of the Ladies in Green The Hopeless Bibliomaniac 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com "Now this is an interesting test of your reflexes; can you turn and fire that thing before I skewer you?" -Duncan MacLeod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:41:01 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Macdonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: big list Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: > I've started a list of the people on this mailing list. I'm trying to include > real name/use name/email&homepage addresses/ages/home/maybe sexuality (not sure > about that yet)/any little tidbit of odd info. > if you'd like to send me some of this info, please do. i'm going to try to get > the age and address poll from tammy. I'd like to get email addresses from > Mel. If anybody has something they want to say about this project, good or > bad, email me privately, if you please. Eventually, i'd like to be able to let > everyone have this list so noone has to frantically ask others for so and so's > address. Emm, before you start duplicating stuff have a lok at my home page http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ism/other/emails.html which has link from the Mercedes-lackey pages http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/ism/lackey This allows you to add your own email, web, info to a page. this list has over 100 people on it all ready. BTW if any one would like a copy and doesn't have web access then mail me Ian < all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:13:00 -0400 (EDT) From: EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: <960408141300.7db-+AT+-bpl.org> All of the discussion of teachers who hate fantasy has led me to considering my own dilemma. I am a children's librarian, and my boss, a former children's librarian, cannot stand fantasy. She has read it, but it leaves her uninvolved and cold. So when I go to weed the collection (a process I despise, but a necessary one if I am to fit any more books into the available shelving) she wants me to dump the fantasy and keep the "problem" novels and I want to dump the boring realistic stuff. We compromise by dumping the shelf sitters.(Some of which are fantasy and some of which are the realisting stuff.) but it frustrates me to see authors like Joan Aiken being ignored. I have come to the reluctant conclusion that the good young readers ignore the children's shelves, and the poor, unmotivated readers don't know what to do with a good complex fantasy author. YA (Young Adult) doesn't start in my system until the 9th grade, so there are a lot of orphan authors. If any of the younger readers on the list have some ideas about what I can do to let them know about good authors, feel free to e-mail me privately, by-the-by. Misty's books can be problematic, by the way, when it comes to where they should be located in the library. The Arrows books would do fine with the jr.high level books, if it weren't for the scenes which address sex. (Yes, I know, but my jr. high level books are interfiled with the books which are aimed at third graders.) The LHM books, ditto, so they end up in YA. But when Misty's books are stuck in the YA section, they get ignored by adults. (I once had an acquaintance tell me that Joy Chant's _Red Moon and Black Mountain_ was a juvenile title -- as if books which include children as main characters hold no interest for adults!) Oh, well, I'd better stop before I start frothing.... Yoicks! and Away! Cindy P.S. I love Helene Hanff, Danny Kaye, Alexander Key and Zenna Henderson, too, for those of you who have enthused. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:06:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Mannaheim To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Book lovers Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: > > Is this a common experience, this silliness of teachers asking for a > > list of books you've read? I've never encountered anything like that > > before. > > > > You know, I don't remember ever having to do that myself. I probably > would have revolted if I had. Of course, maybe the teachers realized that > since I always read or wrote in class they'd get a book itself from me if they > asked. Did anybody else do that? Read or write in class and still listen to > the teacher at the same time. It really pissed them off, too, because they > didn't believe that I was actually still paying attention to them! *grin and a > sigh* :) > > Shadowspun > All the time!!!!(Look! 4! ) I always read in class when I was in high school because the classes went too slow. Sometimes the teachers threatened to kick me out of class unless I put the book away and paid attention. I guess they were never able to concentrate on more than one thing at a time when they were younger. How sad! :) Mannaheim -=-=-=-patw-+AT+-clark.edu-=-=-=-Mannaheim-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "He teaches like Speedy Gonzalez on a caffeine high." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:44:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: this 'n' that Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org wrote: > Becky, I think someone has a list out of lackey fan homepages. Check > Ian's page. > > Yoicks and Away! > > Cindy > I did, and you're right. But what I was thinking of was a list of our homepages, and stuff on the list. I'm sorta working on it now, but it won't be ready for a while. Lady Becky The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. --Dr. Suess ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:46:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Mannaheim To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Jennifer Roberson's e-mail addy Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Lady 'Reesa And Tina wrote: > > (All of that silliness was in defferance to those who dislike > one-line messages. See, if not for you, I would have shut up by > now...) > > Her e-mail is JRoberson-+AT+-genie.geis.com > > Just don't tell her who sent you! I live in the same state, and > she could come after me! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~Lady 'Reesa~~~~~~~~~~mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com~~~~~~~~~~~) > Exactly who is Jennifer Roberson? Mannaheim -=-=-=-patw-+AT+-clark.edu-=-=-=-Mannaheim-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "He teaches like Speedy Gonzalez on a caffeine high." =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:49:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Chelsea Amberle Fischer To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: > Yay! What ages did everybody start reading? Mom keeps telling me I startes > reading when I was two. She was reading Teddy Bear, Teddy Bear to me and I was > reading with her. She called dad over and he didin't believe her, so she > turned the book to a page in the middle of the book or something and I read it. > He was reasonably surprised. God, I love that story. It shocks the h-e-double > hockey sticks out of all the non-readers I tell it to! Me, too... except I didn't start til age 3... my Grandpa was reading me a new story, and he skipped a word, so *I* read the story to *him*... he was a bit befuddled... ----Chelsea ******************************************* Ream ember us poke in cent tense all mows stall ways con deign sword snot in ten did. ******************************************* http://www.unt.edu/~caf0001 caf0001-+AT+-jove.acs.unt.edu Chelsea Fischer ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:31:05 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Big List(again) form Message-ID: <199604082028.QAA07191-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> O.K. who suggested doing a homepage for the list? I'm sure someone did. If no one else can/will, I would be more than happy to. -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:33:19 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: big list-permission Message-ID: <199604082030.QAA07205-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > Everybody else, I still want you to email me and give me express > permission. This should clear up any legalities, because i think there are > some. Shadowspun, you have my permission -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 16:35:16 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Book lovers Message-ID: <01I3B0DYMZUA8ZDXKC-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> I still feel sorry for whoever it was who said they couldn't read and walk at the same time. The trick is to hold the book high up so over the top of it and below it you can see any obstacles. At least, that's what I do. ANy other techniques? Shadowspun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:35:21 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Book lovers Message-ID: <199604082032.QAA07218-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> >>Did anybody else do that? Read or write in class and still listen to > > the teacher at the same time. It really pissed them off, too, because they > > didn't believe that I was actually still paying attention to them! *grin and a > > sigh* :) > > Shadowspun I did this all the time with my History class in High School, and it downright irritated the teacher that I never took notes, and read in class, and still did well on tests. -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 15:38:59 -0500 From: Tammy Harris To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: poll--last chance Message-ID: <5D89796CA3-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu> Heyla! Okay, I know, I promised I'd finish this last week, but I ended up taking most of Thursday off, to attend a funeral, and Friday was a holiday for me. So, now that I'm down to only 39 of the 300+ messages that awaited me this morning, I'm giving you all one last chance to reply. So, if you're interested, send your age and where you live, and I'll post the results tomorrow (Tuesday). I promise! Former-Girl Scout's honor! Send it to me privately, at: tamarah-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu Thanks for your patience! Tammy "It's time to ask yourself what you believe" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:45:13 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: McCaffery/Rice/Rampling Message-ID: <199604082042.QAA07292-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > Well, if I were Anne McCaffrey, and I deliberately set out to change my > writing style in order to produce trashy, badly-written, pretentious, > overly-hip vampire books, I wouldn't put my name on them, either. > I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. I really don't hate Anne Rice, I just > think her books are rather silly, and they take themselves > oh-so-seriously. The Vampire Lestat was the best of the three or four I > read, and even it left me pretty cold. Well, I like Anne Rice.(of course I like nearly anything vampire-ish) Have you all read any of her non-vampire books? I finally decided to and I'm currently half-way through "The Witching Hour", and I am hooked! It's a loong book, but the story is very interesting. Although, I wouldn't suggest reading it if you don't like flashbacks. -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:49:56 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: McCaffrey/Rice/Rampling--Help! Message-ID: <199604082047.QAA07312-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > (I have got to stop watching To Wong Foo in marathon sessions.) that was a _funny_ movie! Have you seen "The Birdcage?" It is even better! Wonderful, hilarious! -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:58:09 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Out of the Woods, definitely off-topic Message-ID: <199604082055.QAA07358-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > But, yes, it is a good musical, probably my favorite Sondheim. > "Children Will Listen" is good, but I always get chills when Bernadette > Peters sings "The Last Midnight." My she'enedra says Bernadette Peters > is the most attractive woman in the world. I'm not sure I would go that > far, but she's got a gorgeous voice, that's for sure. She's certainly awesome. :) -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Careful the tale you tell, that is the spell." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" by Stephen Sondheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:04:11 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: People names (was re:companion names) Message-ID: <199604082101.RAA07403-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > I work in the Admissions Office at my school, and we have > several interesting names come through. This year we had someone > named Dense, and we even have an applicant named James T. Kirk (a few > centuries too early). Hmmm, what school you go to? I went to high school with a James T. Kirk ObMisty: There isn't anyone named James T. Kirk(as far as we know) in Valdemar -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Careful the tale you tell, that is the spell." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" by Stephen Sondheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:09:56 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: <199604082107.RAA07423-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > Yay! What ages did everybody start reading? Mom keeps telling me I startes > > reading when I was two. > My mom *swears* I was reading the New York Times at 1 yr 6 months.... I didn't start till 4/5 yrs, but once I did I jumped way ahead of my age level. > "Now this is an interesting test of your reflexes; can > you turn and fire that thing before I skewer you?" > -Duncan MacLeod Oooh! Oooh! ooh! I love your sig! Just couldn't help but laugh! -There can be only one -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Careful the tale you tell, that is the spell." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" by Stephen Sondheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:17:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrienne York To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Big List(again) form Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote: > Real Name: Adrienne aka WitchQueen aka L'Enfant Terrible > email address: ayork-+AT+-simons-rock.edu > homepage address: http://www.simons-rock.edu/~ayork > age 17 > IRL address: Simon's Rock College, Massachusetts Maryland (where I live) > favorite series/book/character LHM/MPrice/Vanyel Ashkeveron (as if there's some other choice) > group affiliation "The Table" shox-+AT+-simons-rock.edu (I think I'm going to start writing that down as ethnicity when people ask me. This is a kewl, small mailing list I am on.) > I may put a little tidbit down as the fave area and switch it with the > affiliation. Tell me if you want that. What I put should work as either tidbit or affiliation. Please don't get rid of fave area, because VANYEL RULES!!!!!! > Shadowspun > > Am I getting myself in over my head, and Becky with me? Of course you are dear. You should have known that at the beginning. But we love you for it anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L'Enfant Terrible Wanna Warrior Protocol Officer The WitchQueen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "You haven't found god yet? Why in havens' name not? God is everywhere... Have you tried buying a rubber chicken? Sometimes they have two gods." -Moi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:18:55 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: warnings Message-ID: <199604082116.RAA07482-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > Yes they are... And I still say that Tarma and Kethry were lovers... (#1 "I > > think thou dost protest too much" applies well... #2 Notice how she always > > states "all my pleasure in my skill never more with any *MAN*... #3 You > > spend years with another woman without a man in site... Eventually > > *something* is going to happen) Methinks thou hast not read the books! Tarma was basically made neuter when the star-eyed bound her, and this most especially goes for her desires! She had no more sexual desire! -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Careful the tale you tell, that is the spell." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" by Stephen Sondheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 17:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: HATST5-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: big list Message-ID: <01I3B1XNQIK28ZE0FS-+AT+-vms.cis.pitt.edu> great. just do me a favor and tell me straight out you give me permission to give it to Becky. also, would you like to fill in any blanks? you don't have to. i'd just like t have this stuff. Name: (AKA) email address homepage address age---birthday college city, state/home city, state group affiliation tidbits oh, tidbits are anything. some people are writing their fave book/series/and-or character Shadowspun bear with us. it will come together. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:25:41 +0000 From: "deanca" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Why Kris will be king... Message-ID: <199604082123.RAA07507-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > . But there were three Elspeths discussed, But Royal families re-use names constantly! thus all these Queen Elspeths. Kris was part of the Royal Family too, so of course the Queen might consider naming a son after a beloved royal who was nearly heir. -Free Bard Oriole known on IRC as Vrondi a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Careful the tale you tell, that is the spell." -The Witch from "Into The Woods" by Stephen Sondheim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:45:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed (fairly off-topic) Message-ID: Rynath wrote: > Shadowspun wrote: > > Yay! What ages did everybody start reading? Mom keeps telling me I startes > > reading when I was two. > My mom *swears* I was reading the New York Times at 1 yr 6 months.... > I know I was reading by 3, but I don't know at what age I started. *****LADY JAGUAR***** Leader of the Cat People Lady in Green LGMCB Conspirator #14, DHTBB Lobe #3! "Meddle not in the affairs of cats for you are soft-skinned, and blind at night." ********************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:11:31 -0400 From: Lisa Gregory To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Unbonded choosings Message-ID: <199604082211.SAA07880-+AT+-gramercy.ios.com> I sent this a couple of days ago, but I don't think it got through. If anybody did get it, I apologize for sending it twice and humbly plead newbie-ness. :) >Also two cents about unbonded Choosings. Did Misty ever actually use >that term?? I am thinking that unbonded and Choosing are mutually >exclusive. The Choosing just seems so...spiritual, emotional...(what is >the right word??)...that it really could not be a Choosing without that >bond. I think unbonded would only relate to what Florian (?) has with >Karel (?)-more of a friendship (which is a bond in and of itself). But I >*really* think that there can be no such thing as an *unbonded* choosing. In Magic's Promise, Vanyel finds out from Yfandes that Jisa will probably be Chosen within a few years, but that it would be an unbonded Choosing because she's the presumptive King's Own. When I read this, I thought that it sounded rather hard on the poor Companion that had to be only her temporary partner. Then I started trying to come up with alternative explanations. I think the best one I got was that an unbonded Choosing was more like all of the Companions having a vote to decide that someone would be Chosen at some point in the future (although not immediately due to some circumstances), and letting that person (and, I assume, various other Heralds) in on it for some reason. This could fit in with Magic's Price, where it's said that some people might wonder why Jisa hadn't been Chosen yet. Van, however, knows that it's because she will be Chosen by her mother's Companion after her mother dies. In this book, there's no mention of the "unbonded Choosing" (as far as I can remember). Of course, if the unbonded Choosing does follow along the lines I suggest, then I think it would have been nice of the Companions to do that for Elspeth rather than letting her worry that she'd never be Chosen (while they took their sweet time deciding to give her a Grove-born Companion). Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:05:36 +1200 From: "Sarah Stock" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Is this a put-on? Message-ID: <199604082256.KAA00378-+AT+-ftp.paradigm.co.nz> > From: Heather Watson > Okay, now several people have said that they can read the entire Arrows > trilogy in a time span that varies from response to response, but falls > somewhere between 2 and 4 hours. I've been doing the math here, and I'm > finding this pretty hard to swallow. Are you guys sure about this? > Five pages per minute, guys? I read faster than anyone I know, and > at my top speed, I read two pages a minute -- maybe three if it's a book > like one of the Arrows books that I've read a billion times before, in > which case I'm just skimming, essentially. Can you really sit down with > a book, read for sixty seconds, and tell me what happened in the last > five pages? I could get through the Arrows trilogy in 6-7 hours Well, lets see. I have been told by people watching me that my eyes don't move across the page at all. So, that means I read an entire line at once. It is entirely possible that other people read two lines at once etc. Basically, I always think of it like this. Think how much information your brain processes at once when you pull up to a strange intersection. If you actually think about all the stuff you have to recognise and make decisions about, its quite astounding. So, we can defintely process more than one word at a time, or even one line at a time. I think reading speed is simply how fast your eyes move down a page, and whether you read a line or a word or a paragraph at a time. On the other hand, I've never really tested it. I'm going to try tonight. Sarah sarah-+AT+-paradigm.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:57:44 -0700 (MST) From: kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Jennifer Roberson's e-mail addy Message-ID: <199604082257.PAA18846-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com> Heyla! >Exactly who is Jennifer Roberson? > >Mannaheim > >-=-=-=-patw-+AT+-clark.edu-=-=-=-Mannaheim-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >"He teaches like Speedy Gonzalez on a caffeine high." >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jennifer Roberson... She wrote the Chronicles of the Cheysuli (an eight book series about the shapechanging Cheysuli race) and the novels of Tiger and Del, four books about a pair of Sword-Dancers (sort of soldier/ mercenary/fighter type peoples). She also wrote _Lady of the Forest_, which is the story of Robin Hood, but from Maid Marion's point of view (I think, I haven't read it), and some short stories and mundane novels. She is also one of my three favorite authors (along with Robert Jordan and, of course, Misty). I'd reccomend (<- that can't be spelled right) her books, esp. the Chronicles. Zhai'helleva and Cheysuli i'halla shansu all, "It says that this place was planted by a traveling pack of Children of Gaia." "Well, that was awfully nice of them," Albrecht said. "Now we know why its all sweet and cozy here. That explains the cute bunny rabbits." - _The Silver Crown_ ------------------------ "This is sickening! You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet!" - Kefka ------------------------ "Here, what are you giving him a balm for? It might bite him!!" - Terry Jones, Monty Python's Life of Brian ------------------------ "Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!" - Dennis (Monty Python and the Holy Grail) ------------------------ "Gravity is not a toy for your amusement!" - Me *************************************************** Jesse von Kirchner, Apprentice to His Lordship Chosa Dei, High Wizard of Ysaa-Den and rightful ruler of both north and south. *************************************************** .---. .-. __.|\__/|.__ | | .-. / o o\ | | | | /( ) \ | `- ' | / \#/ \ | `-' .---' | | `---. `--. | | | |_ | .--` (~\ | | / ~) | | __\_|| ||_ /__ | | _///_//_| |_\\__\\\___|_| ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 463 *********************************