MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 517 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Cover Art by Lady Wintersong 2) Re: reading speed by Lady Wintersong 3) Re: book lovers by Lady Wintersong 4) Re: book lovers by Lady Wintersong 5) Re: silly question (off topic) by Lady Wintersong 6) Re: Booklovers by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 7) Re: Cover Art by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 8) Re: Clocking in by Heather Watson 9) Re: silly question (off topic) by Rosario Holsen-Baker 10) Re: she'enedra by Rosario Holsen-Baker 11) Top Ten List #6 by Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> 12) Misty Song Parody #4 by Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> 13) REPOST: The Hawkbrother Language List by Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> 14) Re:booklovers by "Vrondi" 15) Re: she'enedra by "Vrondi" 16) Re: Rolan, MOC, soulbonds, etc... by Becky Anne Christensen 17) Re: silly question (off topic) by "Vrondi" 18) Alcohol was re: Spider & Huff by Becky Anne Christensen 19) Re: Lord Of The Flies by Becky Anne Christensen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:10:36 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Cover Art Message-ID: <9604280810.AA05515-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> At 10:03 PM 4/26/96 +0100, Khenta B. wrote: >Yes, and have you seen Rolan on the cover of AFall? He looks as if he >just had a perm. Nice curly hair ;). > >But what for haven's sake makes you think Darkwind looked like a woman on >WFate? I never had that impression. Not with muscular arms like these. > Look at the cover of Winds Of Fate, by Daw, and concentrate on Darkwind's face. Just the face. Doesn't he look like a woman? Zhai'hellava Lady Wintersong An Honourable Lady In Green **************************************************************************** ***** "Above all, I am not concerned with Poetry. My subject is War and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity." --- Wilfred Owen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:10:42 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: reading speed Message-ID: <9604280810.AA05516-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> At 07:18 PM 4/26/96 +0100, Diana wrote: > >> Yes, I'm guilty of that one. I read something, realise that it has a >> connection to something else in the book, and stare at nothing in paticular >> until I get the connection. Then I go "oh,i see" and manage to irritate >> everyone around me in the process, and go on with it. Does anyone else do >> this? or am I the odd one out?(whimper) > >I tend to be more active about connections. I've been known to drop >what I'm reading and go find the other book and start tearing through >it to find out what I vaguely remember. > I either stare off into space if I am alone or I grab Lady Windsong and ask her for confirmation. Isn't it nice to have friends? Saves you a lot of tfouble. Zhai'hellava Lady Wintersong An Honourable Lady In Green **************************************************************************** ***** "Above all, I am not concerned with Poetry. My subject is War and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity." --- Wilfred Owen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:10:50 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: <9604280810.AA05525-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> At 12:53 PM 4/26/96 +0100, Kaatje wrote: >I read it in 10th grade (when I was 14), for English/American Lit, and I Wait, wait. I think there's some discrepancy to the grades in different countries so what say we stick to age? Zhai'hellava Lady Wintersong An Honourable Lady In Green **************************************************************************** ***** "Above all, I am not concerned with Poetry. My subject is War and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity." --- Wilfred Owen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:10:56 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: book lovers Message-ID: <9604280810.AA05530-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> At 12:25 PM 4/26/96 +0100, Lady Bard Kadessa wrote: There are >a couple books that I've read which I would probably have thoroughly >enjoyed if they hadn't been required. I don't think books should be >required; it ruins them IMO. :) > Yup, required reading does ruin books, for some unknown reason. Maybe it's because the teacher approves of it. The analysis also destroys the mystic of the book. Zhai'hellava Lady Wintersong An Honourable Lady In Green **************************************************************************** ***** "Above all, I am not concerned with Poetry. My subject is War and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity." --- Wilfred Owen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:46:00 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: silly question (off topic) Message-ID: <9604280846.AA07354-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> At 09:38 AM 4/28/96 +0100, you wrote: > Just wondering, but I always read about "me-+AT+-school" and therefore, >no references available. HOW can you be "goofing off", playing with your >E-mail, if you're at school?!?! Or work?! Or are you all at colleges and >universities, and using your lunch breaks? Weren't a few of you still in >high school? I'm still in senior high, and my school doesn't allow their >students to use the internet. (I can understand why - no one would ever get >off). Just wondering (and jealous). > >Midnite Whispuh' > > Although I seldom read my e-mail at schoool, my school provides computer labs for our use during recess and after school. (I'm in secondary school) We also have computer lessons where we fool around on the net. Zhai'hellava Lady Wintersong An Honourable Lady In Green **************************************************************************** ***** "Above all, I am not concerned with Poetry. My subject is War and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity." --- Wilfred Owen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:03:16 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Booklovers Message-ID: <199604280903.RAA14748-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> > > no fair at all. we never read any Madeliene L'engle in >school. Please don't let her books be ruined for you! they are >excellent, and every fantasy fan should read them. I did encounter 1 >person who had a teacher force him to read a Mercedes-Lackey book, >thus ensuring he would hate it and never want to read another. SO, >mebbe it's a good thing I didn't get to read L'Engle in school. >- Vrondi > a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole. > a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Ecstacy and misery have one thing in common- >They both _love_ company." >-me We did L'Engle in school(remember, Lady Wintersong?) but we only did it very briefly, and all that did was get me interested in her books. So you see, not always does doing a book for class ruin it( although ot does most of the time!). But I do agree with... sorry, can't remember, whoever that the book is totally taken apart in lessons, and although you understand almost every little thing, I think that most of the *magic* in the book is lost for the reader after that. Anyone agree with that thought? Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:23:17 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Cover Art Message-ID: <199604280923.RAA13800-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >At 10:03 PM 4/26/96 +0100, Khenta B. wrote: > >>Yes, and have you seen Rolan on the cover of AFall? He looks as if he >>just had a perm. Nice curly hair ;). >> >>But what for haven's sake makes you think Darkwind looked like a woman on >>WFate? I never had that impression. Not with muscular arms like these. >> >Look at the cover of Winds Of Fate, by Daw, and concentrate on Darkwind's >face. Just the face. Doesn't he look like a woman? > >Zhai'hellava > >Lady Wintersong >An Honourable Lady In Green Yes, I agree with you Lady. He *definately* looks like a woman there. But I must add that if you cover the face, the rest isn't so bad! There, no one-liner( grin at Auntie Mel). Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:12:24 CST From: Heather Watson To: Subject: Re: Clocking in Message-ID: <28APR96.09943364.0052.MUSIC-+AT+-NEMOMUS> Everyone is very interested in the bridesmaids and ushers at my wedding to Cennydd. I find this somewhat disturbing. I feel like I'm working an auction block here. I can just see Cennydd turning into the Engineer from Miss Saigon. Everybody leave our wedding party alone!! You're scaring them away!! They're for the happy nuptual couple, dammit. She'enedra is a Shin'a'in term, meaning something like beloved sister. Or something. It's what Tarma and Kethry called each other, and I use it in reference to my roommate, best friend, ex-lover, and co-author. (Yes, same person.) It's such a nice, neat term to convey the depth of emotional involvement. Shaych is short for shay'a'chern, "one whose lover is like self," the Tayledras term for homosexual. (The Shin'a'in version is she'chorne.) I didn't think the Shin'a'in songs on Oathbound were badly sung. They're by Larry Warner, mainly, and he has a lovely voice. I wish I sang so badly. And I don't have at all the negative feelings toward books read in school that you guys seem to. In fact, I can hardly think of a bad experience I've had reading for class. Here are the ones I remember. 10th grade (14/15): The Odyssey (which I admit I was not thrilled by), East of Eden, and presumably more that I've forgotten. 11th grade (15/16): The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, The Crucible, Death of a Salesman (also lower on my list), the book by William Faulkner, damn which I can't remember the title damn, about the family that travels across the state to bury their mother. 12th grade (16/17): The Republic, Native Son, The Awakening, Hamlet, Othello, Macbeth, Candide, The Metamorphosis, Canterbury Tales. Probably more. It was Advanced Placement, and we were always reading something. Oh, and I forgot one of my favorites: Tale of Two Cities, in the 9th grade. I really loved that book. Anyway, English classes always made me read books that I probably never would have gotten around to on my own, but that I really am glad I read. Tale of Two Cities and East of Eden alone were worth millions. Ah, and Crime and Punishment. How could I forget Crime and Punishment. AP again. Another good book. Anyway, what I'm getting at is that having to read them did nothing to ruin the books for me. I enjoyed it immensely, and wish I had the bloody time to take English classes now that I'm in college. As you've noticed, I like having people around with whom to discuss what I read Cennydd, if you've confronted this guy of yours, you're already waaaay ahead of Dirk. Never even really seemed to occur to him. Why can't men just learn to *communicate?* Yeah, right. Like women are really any better. They may talk more, but sometimes I think they say even less. (I'm too young to be cynical. I obviously need a date, too. I have a cocktail dress that I bought over Christmas when I was really depressed, and I haven't had an excuse to wear it all semester. It's sad, really.) HTH "We're not alcoholics. We're the authors." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: silly question (off topic) Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Apr 1996,Midnite Whispuh' wrote: > Just wondering, but I always read about "me-+AT+-school" and therefore, > no references available. HOW can you be "goofing off", playing with your > E-mail, if you're at school?!?! Or work?! Or are you all at colleges and > universities, and using your lunch breaks? Weren't a few of you still in > high school? I'm still in senior high, and my school doesn't allow their > students to use the internet. (I can understand why - no one would ever get > off). Just wondering (and jealous). > I can't speak for the rest of them, but I have, on average, 2 hrs, 25 minutes of free time a day, including lunch. And I'm only a poor soph. But our school has a policy that everyone should have at least one free period (or a couple non-academics) a day. The computer room is usually packed during lunch, mostly because of the internet. There are three (ooold) computers devoted exclusively to e-mail. :) ObMisty: There is no internet in Velgarth :) *****LADY JAGUAR***** Leader of the Cat People Lady in Green LGMCB Conspirator #13, DHTBB Lobe #3! "If you want someone to love you, open your heart. If you want someone obsessed with you, close it." ********************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Rosario Holsen-Baker To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: she'enedra Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, Lady Wintersong wrote: > Just a question: What is she'endra, tm and shaych? I am getting rather > confused with all the talk of it. (There, no longer a one-liner.) Smile of > satisfaction. > She'endra = heart-sister (like Tarma and Kethry) Shaych/Shay'a'chern (did I spell that right?) = homosexual *****LADY JAGUAR***** Leader of the Cat People Lady in Green LGMCB Conspirator #13, DHTBB Lobe #3! "If you want someone to love you, open your heart. If you want someone obsessed with you, close it." ********************* ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 96 11:46:20 EDT From: Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> To: M-L mailing list Cc: Moonsong -- MMV <102232.3604-+AT+-CompuServe.COM>, Subject: Top Ten List #6 Message-ID: <960428154620_102744.2515_GHT137-2-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Another Misty Top Ten List from the home office in Staten Island, New York. Top Ten Changed Lines from _Magic's Promise_ ============================================================= 10: *Clothing, clothing. What am I going to do about clothing? And where's my black hair dye?* (Van, p55) 9: He opened up a hatch in the bottom of the crowded wagon and began pulling out instruments packed in beautifully wrought travelling bags. Two lutes, a harp- -and three instrunents vaguely gittern-shaped, but-- larger. But the electric guitar is what caught Van's eye the most. "Cool, man!" he said. (Van and Rolf, p113) 8: "Herald Vanyel? The Shadow-" "Stalker, Demonsbane, the Hero of Stony Tor, also known as Bippy the Mime in my spare time, yes." (Van and Rolf, p113) 7: "Why me?" he damanded. "Why am *I* suddenly the arbitrator?" Savil flourished a piece of paper. "Because according to this little piece of paper I have, under Randale's *official* seal, you understand the problems, so you're appointed full and final authority. Put that on your Companion and ride it, pal." (Van and Savil, p314) 6: "I'm ordering you to *let this boy be.* Who in hell are you?" "My name is Bond... James Bond." (Van and Lores, p149) 5: "Maybe you should stop. Become a bricklayer, for instance." "Jaysen, I know it's been damned long, but bricks? It would be hard to cut a hole big enough in them." (Van and Jaysen, p35) 4: "We lost Jays," he whispered, remembering, feeling the emptiness. "Well, where did you last leave him?" (Van and Tantras, p309) 3: "Vanyel," she said softly. "You and me--there's no hope, is there?" "Bright Lady! Haven't you figured it out yet? I'm saych. Say'a'chern! I'll spell it out for you.. S-A-Y- apostrophe-A-apostrophe-C-H-E-R-N!!!! That means, no!" (Van and Melenna, p312) 2: Vanyel had a headache coming on. "Actually, no, inkeeper. The truth is I've been on iron rations so long hat anything rich would likely have made me ill. But I could go for a chocolate chip cookie or two." (Van and the inkeeper, p68) And the number one changed line from _Magic's Promise_ : 1: "She's *not*," he repeated for the hundreth time, "a horse!" "Yes she is!" "No she isn't!" "Is!" "Isn't!" "Is..." (Van and Withen, p81) All page numbers are from the US paperback release of _Magic's Promise._ As always, copies of this or any other humor are available by e-mailing me at the address below. Rynath / Jake Bide by the Wiccan laws we must House Champion of the LIG In perfect love and perfect trust Member of the MMV Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill: The Hopeless Bibliomaniac An ye harm none, do what ye will. 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 96 11:46:13 EDT From: Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> To: M-L mailing list Cc: Moonsong -- MMV <102232.3604-+AT+-CompuServe.COM>, Subject: Misty Song Parody #4 Message-ID: <960428154613_102744.2515_GHT137-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Okay! It's time for another song parody, boys and girls! This one is to the tune of "I am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General" from _The Pirates of Penzance_ (what can I say.. I'm in a cultural mood!) ======================================================== I AM THE VERY MODEL OF A GRYPHON INDIVIDUAL With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan New Lyrics by Jake / Rynath 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com ======================================================== SKAN: I am the very model of a gryphon individual With a mind most intelligent and strongest body physical I've seen Ma'ars camp--it does not pose even the slightest mystery I'm the best gryphon ever seen in modern human history I'm very well acquainted, too, with governmental policy Since White Gryphon's been made all true and not another fallacy I've raided Urtho's tower,now I'm teeming with a lot o' news: With many cheerful facts about gryphonic mating rules CHORUS: With many cheerful facts about gryphonic mating rules (Three times) SKAN: 'Drake my friend the kestra'chern is often over by my side His comments tend to get to me--they deflate my enormous pride In short, just ask my friends, I know that they would not go kid you all I am the very model of a gryphon individual. CHORUS: In short, just ask his friends, he knows that they would not go kid you all He is the very model of a gryphon individual. SKAN: I am the very model of a gryphon individual In White Gryphon we did deal with problems most residual We landed there and made our place and figured that we would just stay Until some ships--The Black King's--came, appearing in our harbor bay. They said our new home lied right on their kingdom's most far border north So Drake and I we took a trip to visit the king's regal court A problem is the sort of thing I'd hoped that I could quite avoid, But our time there it really had me acting very paranoid. CHORUS: But their time there it really had him acting very paranoid. (Three times) SKAN: Now that things are settled and Suleiman's not a nemesis I'm working on relaxing now, just lounging on the premises But don't you forget, if you need a gryphon in a pinch, you know I am the very model of a gryphon individual. CHORUS: But don't forget, if you need a gryphon in a pinch, you know He is the very model of a gryphon individual. As always, copies of this and my other song parodies are available by emailing me at 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com. Zha'hai'allav'a... Jake / Rynath in Green Solo to Jordan and Bird: "Watch this: Off the skiff, into the air, off the sail barge, into the Sarlacc... nothing but Fett." ------------------------------ Date: 28 Apr 96 11:53:54 EDT From: Jake / Rynath in Green <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> To: M-L mailing list Subject: REPOST: The Hawkbrother Language List Message-ID: <960428155354_102744.2515_GHT137-3-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Okay. This is the second time someone asked about the Hawkbrother Language List--so to save all the new people the trouble of forwards, I'm reposting it. Again, this I got off a web page somewheres, and I've corrected it a bit because, well, it was wrong. Everything I had time to check was accurate, so I assume the whole thing is AOK. Have fun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shin'a'in, Tayledras, and Kaled'a'in Word List ================================================================= Way back when, hundreds or maybe even thousands of years ago, there was a war between two wizards, called the Mage War. It changed the face of the land forever, warping the magic and the landscape. On the side of the mage fighting for good, Urtho, were a people called the Kaled'a'in. They used magic as much as anyone, and specialized in the breeding of horses and bondbirds. When both mages, Urtho and Ma'ar, were destroyed, the home of the Kaled'a'in was transformed into a lifeless crater. The Kaled'a'in were of two minds as to what they should do, and eventually they were sundered into two peoples: the Shin'a'in, who vowed to do without magic and to reclaim their home from the wastes, and the Tayledras, who wished to continue using magic, and to try and live in the nearby Pelagir Hills and Pelagiris Forest. The Shin'a'in would continue with the horses, and the Tayledras would take the bondbirds. Both sides found it impossible to win their battle for a home. Eventually, both prayed to their goddess, Kal'enel, the Star-Eyed. She asked a heavy price of both of them. From the Shin'a'in, She asked a vow to forswear magic forever, except for Her shamans. They were to guard the artifacts of the war, and make sure that they never fell into the wrong hands. In return, She changed the waste into a grassland, the Dhorisha Plains. >From the Tayledras, She asked them to heal the damage done to the lands by the war, and to make this their primary goal. In return, She taught them how to tame the lands of wild magic enough to make a home there. Not too long ago, the Shin'a'in and Tayledras, by now very different people, met with the last remaining Clan of the Kaled'a'in-- k'Leshya, the Spirit Clan. And now, all three are working together against a magical catastrophe that may be destruction for all of the Kingdoms. beginning text by Amethysta Silverflame Pronunciation ' glottal stop ai as in air ay long `a' as in way ah soft `a' as in ah ee long `e' as in feet ear as in fear e as in fend i long `i' as in violent oh long `o' as in moat oo as in boot Language of the Shin'a'in ========================= ae I corthu one being datri have, has dester'edre wind(born) sibling dhon very much du'dera (I) give (you) comfort enar bright for'a'hier Firefalcon for'shava very, very good get'ke (could you) explain gestena thank you hai yes hai shala do you understand? hai'she'li surprised yes, literally "yes, I swear!" hai'vetha yes, (be) running her'y (is this not) the truth isda have you (ever) seen (such) jel'enedra little sister jel'sutho'edrin horses, literally "forever younger siblings" jostumal enemy kadessa rodent of the Dhorisha Plains Kal'enedral The Goddess' sword-brothers or Her swordchildren Kal'enel the Warrior aspect of the four-faced Goddess, literally "Sword of the Stars." Also called Enelve'astre (Star-Eyed) and Da'gretha (Warrior). kai'dral book kathal go gently kele go onward kestra a casual friend krethes speculation kulath go find laj'ele'ruvon knowledge seeker la'thel boring, uninteresting leshya'e spirit ; not a vengeful, earthbound ghost but a helpful spirit Liha'irden deer-footed, deer-sibs * lhev but li'ha'eer exclamation, literally, "by the gods!" li'sa'eer exclamation of extreme surprise, literally, "by the highest gods!" n'ae I am, I'm nes bad nes'ral awful, terrible no it nos it is pretera grasscat Pretera'sedrin Children of the Grasscats * rhan how sa a, an sadullos safer sai day se is/are sed'va has been sha'van happy she'chorne homosexual she'enedra sister by blood-oathing sheka horse droppings shena of the Clan; literally "of the brotherhood." shesti nonsense Shin'a'in the People of the Plains so'trekoth fool who will believe anything, literally, "gaped-mouth hatchling" staven water tas and or with ta'ven also Tale'edras Hawkbrothers Tale'sedrin Children of the Hawk * te'sorthene heart-friend, spirit-friend vai datha expression of resignation or agreement, literally, "there are many ways" var'athanda to be forgetful of ven and ves'tacha beloved one vha can, could vysaka the spiritual bond between the Kal'enedral and the Warrior. This bond makes the "shielding" that makes the Kal'endral celibate/neuter and somewhat immune to magic. vyusher Wolf Vuysher'edras Brothers of the Wolves * yai two yuthi'so'coro Shin'a'in road-courtesy zha'hai'allav'a wind beneath your wings * The Liha'irden, Pretera'sedrin, Tale'sedrin, and Vyusher'edras are the original four pledge-clans. Tayledras Language List ======================== Tayledras is the sister tongue to Shin'a'in. Both tongues sound similar; this makes sense, as they both evolved from the same parent tongue that the Shin'a'in and Tyledras once spoke. ashke beloved leshy'a spirit shay'a'chern homosexual, literally, "one whose lover is like self" shay'kreth'ashke lifebonded zhai'helleva wind to thy wings Kaled'a'in Language List ========================= Kaled'a'in is the mother tongue of both Shin'a'in and Tayledras. Not many Kaled'a'in words have been unearthed. ashkeyana beloved kechara beloved, darling kla'heshey'messerin pledged-Clan A short Shin'a'in vocabulary can be found in the back of OATHBREAKERS. I'halla shansu, Rynath / Jake House Champion of the Ladies in Green The Hopeless Bibliomaniac 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com "A key to the understanding of all religion is that a god's idea of amusement is Snakes and Ladders with greased rungs." -- Terry Pratchett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:19:59 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:booklovers Message-ID: <199604281518.LAA07981-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > Arrgh. One book I REALLY hated was Animal Farm. It had so many political > satire type things, and I'm not a political person. Then, the same year > that we had to read the novel, the drama class acted it out. It was SO bad; > they acted out boring dialogues for SO long, that it went over-time (it was > during school), and the entire audience was just dying to leave. > > Midnite Whisper I absolutely hated "Animal Farm" too. Have you read 1984? well, if not, you're lucky. "Animal Farm" is basically 1984 with the characters all switched to animals. We did both in school. we also did "A Brave New World." Hated it too. we did these my 11th grade year. ummm, I was 16 years old. ObMisty: gee, can't think of one right now... - Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole. a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ecstacy and misery have one thing in common- They both _love_ company." -me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:32:09 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: she'enedra Message-ID: <199604281530.LAA07997-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > Just a question: What is she'endra, tm and shaych? I am getting rather > confused with all the talk of it. (There, no longer a one-liner.) Smile of > satisfaction. > > Lady Wintersong she'enedra =(shay enaydrah) sister by blood oathing. p. 284 of "Oathbreakers" in the dictionary of Shin'a'in terms in the back of the book. - Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole. a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ecstacy and misery have one thing in common- They both _love_ company." -me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Rolan, MOC, soulbonds, etc... Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Apr 1996 cscd3150121-+AT+-ewu.edu wrote: > On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote: > > > > > > What sort of connotation would this be? I hate to say this, but > > > "goddess" in normal conversation has very negative connotations for me. > > > I tend to think of what Ms. Behaviour calls "Earthy crunchy-granola > > > > My, my, my - wouldn't Freud have a field day. Gods can have a > > negative connotation - male-dominated - put down female - barefoot > > and pregnant - obey your husband - etc. > > Goddess, to me, implies caring, nurturing, providing for family, > > protecting, etc. > > > > Speaking for myself, I've never really pictured God as male or female, > just seems kinda, well, mortal. I mean why should it/they have sex or > sexual characteristics? Could it be we are creating gods in our own image? > Exactly! See the way I figure it, God transcends sexuality as we know it, just like God transcends time. It's hard for us to imagine, but God is male and female, everything good about mankind. We know this, because we were created in God's image, both men and women. God is usually referred to as a "he" because back when religions were just beginning, the world was a male dominated world. There wouls be no way that men who ruled to household would follow a God unless it was male. So God was known as a male. Even today, it wouldn't be the same if all people accepted the fact that God is also female. To many sexist jerks in the church. Any church. Lady Becky The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. --Dr. Suess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:36:16 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: silly question (off topic) Message-ID: <199604281534.LAA08000-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > Just wondering, but I always read about "me-+AT+-school" and therefore, > no references available. HOW can you be "goofing off", playing with your > E-mail, if you're at school?!?! Or work?! Or are you all at colleges and > universities, and using your lunch breaks? Weren't a few of you still in > high school? I'm still in senior high, and my school doesn't allow their > students to use the internet. (I can understand why - no one would ever get > off). Just wondering (and jealous). > > Midnite Whispuh' I for one, am at college. my school has free access for students in the computer labs, and for a monthly fee, through dial-up accounts in your dorm room. I have one of these dial-up accounts. So, I have access to the net whenever I care to wander by one of the labs, or whenever I'm in my dorm room. the reason for me-+AT+-school, books-+AT+-home for me is that home is a 3 hour drive away from school. - Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole. a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ecstacy and misery have one thing in common- They both _love_ company." -me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 09:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Alcohol was re: Spider & Huff Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Apr 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote: > > Yes. Alcohol is physically addicted - and alcoholics have to go through > > a form of cold turkey to quit - it's not nice. So, boys and girls, now > > you know. Not only that, it can kill you - and they won't legalise pot?? > > > You want two things as bad as alcohol? > Don't people also have a genetic tendency to become alcoholic? My grandfather was an alcoholic, but he got over it. From what I heard he used to be a pretty mean guy, but now he's wonderful. And what about cigarettes, it's a death trap, yet millions of people smoke. Lady Becky The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. --Dr. Suess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:00:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Lord Of The Flies Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Lady 'Reesa And Tina wrote: > >I read it on my own in Jr. High, and hated it. so, when we had to > >pick two of 3 books for summer reading in high school and one was > >LOTF, I read the other two! > >- Vrondi > > > > > Well, I'll tell you what. I had to read that stupid, > overdone, piece of utter bullpucky, and in case you hadn't > guessed, I absolutly despised the book. I know I'm just asking to > be flamed here, but I couldn't help it. I thought the storyline, > to be a little fair, wouldn't have been bad, if it had been > done without the paragraph long descriptions of things that didn't > matter one iota. And, why, if anyone has an answer to this, did > everything have to be PINK? (Look, I've had a really bad day, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lady 'Reesa<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Well, I won't tear you apart. I didn't particularly enjoy the book, the descriptions really were too long. But I thought the symbolism was rather neat. Be fore I figured all that out, I thought the book wasn't al the great. Lady Becky The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. --Dr. Suess ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 517 *********************************