MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 540 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Eyesight was Re: Flashlights Under The Covers by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 2) Re: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 3) Re: Chocolate by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 4) Re: Of classes and horses and Talia and Heinlein's kids and sex by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 5) Re: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 6) Re: (Fwd) Error Condition Re: Re[2]: Virtual Wedding by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 7) Re: Re[2]: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) 8) Re: Wow! Amazing by "Diana L. Heald" 9) Re: The Wild and Wacky 1980' by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 10) Re: Star Wars by "Diana L. Heald" 11) re: off topic by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 12) Re: SDMF's Unite! by "Diana L. Heald" 13) Re: Re[2]: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs by "Diana L. Heald" 14) Re: Of classes and horses and Talia and Heinlein's kids and sex by hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) 15) Re: Heinlein by hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) 16) Re: Big question bothering me for awhile by hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) 17) Re: Mail volume by EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org 18) re: Heinlein (again, again,again ag.......) by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 19) Re: Running by hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) 20) Re:booklovers by "Diana L. Heald" 21) Re:booklovers by "Diana L. Heald" 22) Re: Scifi by Sandra K Haas 23) Re: Dr Pepper by Sandra K Haas 24) Re: Flashlights Under The Covers was Re:booklovers by Tammy Harris 25) Re: Flashlights Under The Covers was Re:booklovers by Birgit Hanel 26) re: asparagus by Birgit Hanel 27) California dreamin' by "sean collins" 28) re: Heinlein by Rossinyol 29) RE: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs by MELISA TREMBLAY ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:21:36 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Eyesight was Re: Flashlights Under The Covers Message-ID: <199605061421.WAA18060-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >I can't find the eyechart without my contacts too and the nurse just writes >90/6. (6/6 is perfect eyesight) I think it is for people who can't see the >biggest letter on the chart, although I am likely to go, what chart? My mum >is in despair because my eyesight degree is still increasing. It is 800+ and >going strong. > >Zhai'hellava > >Lady Wintersong >An Honourable Lady In Green Well, I'm not as bad as you all are, but without my glasses I tend to walk into walls. I can find the biggest letter on the chart if you point me in the general direction of the chart, but....all I see is a big black *blob*. My eyes have settled though, so my degree has been nore or less constant for the last couple of years. Sorry this is so off-topic. Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:22:04 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs Message-ID: <199605061422.WAA04021-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >Sure, everyone's welcome, and not all of us are shaych. I'm sure that if >we get enought poor dateless slobs we can set each other up and not be poor >dateless slobs anymore. Hmmm, i think I'm on to something. > >Lady Silvermoon > >"May the moon light your path and guide you to your destiny." Lady Silvermoon, I think what you are talking about is called " match making " Good, well, call for more members and we'll all end up with dates! :-) Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:21:57 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Chocolate Message-ID: <199605061421.WAA25254-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >Do you know, my brother hates chocolate? He will have *nothing * to do with >chocolate milk, sweets, cake...... It is great because there is no >competition for the chocs., except my mum, but because he hates them, I >never get chocolate cakes. NO FAIR!!!!! <--- Guess how many? I have to make >do with chocolate fudge cake at Lady Windsong's birthdays. Sigh...... > >ObMisty: I wonder if they have chocolate or chocolate fudge cake on Velgarth? > >Zhai'hellava > >Lady Wintersong >An Honourable Lady In Green Lady Windsong *adores* chocolate, chocolate fudge, chocolate cake...... Yes, I think you all get the point: I like chocolate!!!!! May I offer you all a belated slice of birthday cake(chocolate fudge, of course!)? Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:21:48 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Of classes and horses and Talia and Heinlein's kids and sex Message-ID: <199605061421.WAA14942-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >At 10:08 PM 5/3/96 +0100, Lady Becky wrote: > >>learning country line dances and *walking* around a track, while we're > >That's not fair!!!!!!!!!! <---10! because I am depressed again. We have a >physical Fitness Test every year and have to master sit-ups, pull-ups, >shuttle runs, sit-and -reaches, 2.4km runs, and something else I forgot. >Lady Windsong, help! THerefore, we spend most of our PE lessons doing >conditioning, which is fine except for the running. I detest running. I >think the thst is dumb. > >Zhai'hellava > >Lady Wintersong >An Honourable Lady In Green Lady Windsong to the rescue!!!!! The last one you missed was the standing broad jump. Disgusting thing. I like running, as long as I don't have to force myself to finish a set distance in a set time. Anyone else like jogging? Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:22:17 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs Message-ID: <199605061422.WAA13166-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >Oh, yes! That's exactly my position right now, so join in! Let's all sit >down to a tear-jerker movie. I'll pass out complementary triple brownie >overload, popcorn for the non-choclate lovers out there, drinks and plenty >of Kleenex. Oh, and don't forget the hugs! Let's go! Movie suggestions >anyone? > >Lady Silvermoon > >"May the moon light your path and guide you to your destiny." (which may be >to join in the group!) Sounds good to me! Could we have ice-cream too? When I get depressed, I *eat*!!!!!<-gee, guess everyone! Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:22:10 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: (Fwd) Error Condition Re: Re[2]: Virtual Wedding Message-ID: <199605061422.WAA29032-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >Hello all those on the East Coast, and the West. >Anybody in the Midwest? I hail from Illinois. >Greetings to all from a new subscriber, >Valthrea > > A new subscriber? Welcome to our humble list!!!!!*grin* OK, that's my welcome. Everyone else, where's yours? BTW, Lady Wintersong and I are really way out here. We hail from Singapore? Anymore Singaporeans? Please raise thy humble paws, as my Lit teacher used to say. Last call! Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:22:44 +0800 (SST) From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Re[2]: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs Message-ID: <199605061422.WAA13871-+AT+-orchid.singnet.com.sg> >I definitely think there should be a west coast support group! I'm feeling >lonely out here all by my little lonesome and hearing about the wonderful >support group all the way on the other side of the continent. (I'm in >Washington. Where on the west coast are you from?) I'm also feeling put out >because I have *never* gotten a virtual hug! Hmmph. I've had a bad day can't >you tell? > >Lady Moonsong (Adept-class tayledras mage), >Lady Windshadow (Lady Moonsong's black panther mindmate), Lady Kreana (Lady >Moonsong's golden eagle bondbird) >Ones In Black and Ladies In Green > Lady Moonsong, here's something for you. A *big* virtual hug. *grin* There. Now you can't say that no one has given you a hug before! Wind to Thy Wings, Lady Windsong One of the Ladies in Green ----------------------------------- I look to my soul to find the gentle reflection of you. - Leslie Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:23:43 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Wow! Amazing Message-ID: <1FA124025EA-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> Lady Silvermoon writes > I NEVER thought this would happen! Oh, nifty (pardon the expression). > Three people here live in the same city! Weird, how Lackey brings people > together. There's me, Diana Heald and Wildfire. We're all in Rochester, > NY. Which isn't event that big, and yes Diana, there's too much snow! > Our city's only claim to fame is being the country's friendliest city. Soem > people did random tests like dropping pens, books and wallets, and out of > all the cities tested, our city had the most people volunteer to help the > "victim." Cool. That's all for now. Correction I live in Syracuse. We get more snow and Rochester is the big city. Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 96 16:33:08 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: The Wild and Wacky 1980' Message-ID: <9605061433.AA20684-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> Jake asked: >> OBMISTY> Can you imagine Tom Jones singing "My Lady's Eyes?" Marilyn said: > I can and it wasn't a happy picture. ;) I read a review of the latest k.d.lang concert over in the U of K last week, and for her final encore, she sang the ol' Tom Jones "What's New Pussycat" - well, as we all know, kd came out a while back, and apparently, having heard her sing this, the reviewer said that the line "kissing your sweet little pussy cat lips" would _never_ be the same again! Obmisty: Who asked 'bout dancing? Talia gets to dance in Arrows 1, at the Christmas party with whatsit, the 1-legged herald - Jadrek??? Nonono, she doesn't dance _with_ him, but at a party with him. She dance wi' servants in't kitchen. And at Elspeth's coming out ball (or whatever it was) Elspeth gets to open the dance with Kris - in fact they all get to dance. tot ziens, Esmeralda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:44:45 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Star Wars Message-ID: <1FA6BCA2A04-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> Aimee writes > And did you ever notice that when a rebel ship blows up, you (usually) > see his fear and (always!) hear him scream, but when one of the > stormtroopers' ships blows up, you don't hear anything? Gee, I wonder why? Could the stormtoopers really be clones or are they cyborgs or robots? Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 96 16:50:21 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: off topic Message-ID: <9605061450.AA20697-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> Lady Moonsong asked: > Off-topic but has anyone read The Ladies of Mandrigyn by Barbara Hambly? Mandrigyn by Barbara Hambly? Yep, and the next two in the chain - can't for the life of me remember what they're called, but they're pretty good. There may be more - me-+AT+-Nederland, Forbidden Planet-+AT+-London - as this list convention goes! I wanna go hooooome! I need my bookshops (us Brits say things like book shops - none of your stores for us, by George). tot ziens, Esmeralda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:55:43 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: SDMF's Unite! Message-ID: <1FA9B100862-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> Lady Jaguar writes > Me too, sort of, but I used to have THE BIGGEST crush on...are > you ready?....KITT!!!!! A car. That's right, not David Hasselhoff, but > his car. I loved that car! And I still watch the A-Team, and I stoll love > Murdock, and...and...I'm going to go dig up some talking car tapes! Kitt was the only reason I used to watch Knight Rider. I wanted that car. Couldn't stand the A-Team - all macho junk. Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 11:04:50 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Re[2]: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs Message-ID: <1FAC1CD10F7-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> Shadowspun wrote > No, actually I meant where in NY is Rochester. Sorry I wasn't specific, but > I seem to be checking mail in the wee hours so am a little tired. Right now > it's a little past 1 in the morning. Syracuse is smack dab in the middle of the state. Rochester is 90 miles west of Syracuse (that's to the left on the map). Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 08:37:21 -0700 From: hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Of classes and horses and Talia and Heinlein's kids and sex Message-ID: <199605061537.IAA26901-+AT+-dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> Lady Becky wrote: > That sums up most idiotic school administrators for you! Ballet >is a lot harder than regular PE. Right now in the regular classes they're >learning country line dances and *walking* around a track, while we're >starting pointe, and collapsing at the end of each class. That isn't only >stupid of them, but 15 hours of dance a week, especially ballet (when >you're on toe) is dangerous. Great way to screw up joints for the rest of >your life as well. I think it is a requirement to be idiotic to become a >school administrator :D Actually, we got her teacher to sign off on 12 hours as if they were 15 - the ballet teacher isn't dumb. She knows what 15 hours of ballet will do to your feet! We added a strech class and technique class that was more oberservation than dance, so she was only dancing 10 actual hours. As a parent, I 'm convinced school administrators have no common sense at all. Despite what they say about working in partnership, usually this translates as only when parents scream do school administrators listen. AliFarr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 08:48:45 -0700 From: hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Heinlein Message-ID: <199605061548.IAA07463-+AT+-dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > > >In a message dated 96-04-25 01:14:25 EDT, you write: > >>I don't know if sexist is the word I would choose for women who act >>submissive then turn around and do whatever they were going to do >>anyway. Sleazy, maybe. Dishonest, certainly. >Diana L. Heald wrote: >I have always tried to be straight and say what I mean and ask for >what I want. My ex-husband said that is what attracted him to me - I >didn't play the games. Then, after we were married, he was upset >that I was still the same person. He wanted me to stroke his ego and >tell him what a fantastic man he was so I would get what I wanted out >of him. He wanted me to play the same games as his mother played. > > Heather, I admire your sentiments and expectations about the way the world should be, but the above that Diana wrote is decidedly the world I live in. What frustrates me is that I want to teach my kids differently and its REALLY HARD to have to say do as I say not as I do. Now, mine is not my ex, because there are always tradeoffs in life and you have to choose what is most important to you. I'll keep trying to enlighten him - slowly, its hard on his ego to find out he's not the center of the universe...:) AliFarr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 08:51:29 -0700 From: hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Big question bothering me for awhile Message-ID: <199605061551.IAA07596-+AT+-dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> Y >What do you mean how do you braid feathers into your hair? You braid >your hair , putting in feathers as you go. You place the shaft of >the feather with a strand of the braid and hold it with that strand >for a couple of turns of the braid. Then you get another feather and >do it again. simple. basically you just braid the feathers into you >hair . >- Vrondi > a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole. Anybody happen to see Dr. Quinn this week? I swear the feathers were glued in the Indians hair! THey were just there, hanging as if they were just magically attached. OB Misty: maybe thats what it takes a little magic to get them to stay. AliFarr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: EGLESTON-+AT+-bpl.org To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Mail volume Message-ID: <960506120140.47c-+AT+-bpl.org> Ummm.... I have to chime in an agreement with Heather. It has gotten more than just a wee bit fluffy around here, and as I am having trouble reading print (due to allergy season) I'm finding it rating higher on the annoyance level than necessary. ((crank crank:: What! they didn't snip that sig again! Oh, no, please, not another three pages of quotes... ::crank crank)) Please don't take this to mean that I am angry, just that I have a headache that refuses to go away and a backlog of 20 digests that I can't even seem to get myself started on. (Not to mention that I am reminded very strongly of the early days of the coconut war...) Could we aim for the topic a little more please, and take the off-topic (and personal) stuff to personal mail? Thanks Yoicks! and Achoo! Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 96 18:04:49 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Heinlein (again, again,again ag.......) Message-ID: <9605061604.AA20821-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> Tammy Bender in real flame-mode wrote (among other things): > I think this argument is getting a bit out of hand. Why do you feel you > can judge the man's feelings toward sexuality at all? I'm sorry but I > can't even reply to anymore of this tripe. whoa up there lady - this was a friendly exchange of opinions - mine included. We were being nice to each other, it was fun, if going on bit too long. Lighten up - they're books, not life, escapism, not reality. EE stomps off muttering to herself .................. Esmeralda Evensbane ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 09:23:03 -0700 From: hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Running Message-ID: <199605061623.JAA16003-+AT+-dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > >Lady Wintersong wrote (Among other things): >>>>> I detest running. <<<< I solved the college PE requirement by enrolling in Ballroom Dance. Got my exercise and never had to run anywhere. OBMisty: They do have dance in Valdemar. I think it was at one of the parties where the Heralds where showing off variations on the dance steps from their local villages. And Elspeth comments somewhere that at home (Valdemar) everyone danced in ring and set dances, not as couples. AliFarr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:27:25 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:booklovers Message-ID: <1FC21FE76E0-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> Lady Bard Kadessa of Heilmarsh Keep/Windphoenix k'Vaia writes > I had to read "All Quiet..." this year for my AP European History > class. I **really** hated it. It practically put my to sleep whenever > I tried to read it. Took me forever to finish. (Gee, now that I think > about it, all my AP books seem to have the same affect on me. They're > really good for insomnia. :)) When I first started in data processing, I had all these IBM manuals to read (this was before they had popularized books on computers). I would sit there and read until my eyes were fuzzy and I would be nodding off and then I would read a few pages of a science fiction book to wake myself up. It was the only way I got through. I figured IBM should go in the cures for insomnia business. Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:29:43 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:booklovers Message-ID: <1FC2BDA6EE1-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> > Lady Becky wrote: > .> I used a flashlight to read under the covers and boy did I catch it! > .> > .> Lady Sara > .> > . I do that often. Once I had a lamp under the covers, and it > .burned one of my blankets. There's still this brown burnt patch on it, > .luckily my parents haven't noticed...yet. > Jake wrote > I melted an entire pillow (I can't have feathers, so I had a nylon thing) with a > reading lamp under the covers once. What a mess that was. Some kids down the street almost burned down their house like that. They had the attic room and they tried to put out the fire before they came running downstairs. Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:46:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Sandra K Haas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Scifi Message-ID: On Sat, 4 May 1996, Lady Kittengirl wrote: > I'm not a Trekkie, Trekker or whatever. But I am a Star Wars fan. My > friend and I were debating once about what a Star Wars fan would be > called. After much thought I came up with only one answer it and it has > stuck between to the of us. Wookiee. Therefore, my friend and I are > fellow Wookiees. Any other long lost fellow Wookiees out there?? :) > OH, ME, Me!! Over here in the corner!! Jumping up and down, waving my arms, me, me!! I LOVE Star Wars, and am constantly a Wookie (I would rather navigate than drive) :} My husband and I crack each other up by repeating appropriate lines from the movies in real life (which in turn, people stare at us because they don't know WHAT we are talking and then laughing about!!) We have even started making up our own lines to the movies. Ones that we think would be more appropriate at certain times!! I watch parts of the movies just to laugh at the boo boos!! Like the Storm trooper who knocks himself out on the doorway!!....... Uh oh!! Long one.....lets see... Valdemar doesn't have ewoks.......(lame, I know....) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 12:52:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Sandra K Haas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Dr Pepper Message-ID: On Sat, 4 May 1996, Hth. wrote: > And he, too, has a sort of weird fixation on the drink. He was once > served a glass of Dr Pepper in a restaurant that he swears was so good > that it could bring about world peace if served to world leaders. This > was almost a year ago, and he still talks about this glass of Dr Pepper. > HTH It was probably a DIET COKE!! Which is why it tasted so good!! Dr Pepper tastes like some of the old medicine I used to have to take for asthma-anyone else ever have to take Hydrolyn (sp?) Anyway, most choices at resturants for diet drinks are either Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi. Trust me I know!! It is either one of those or WATER, the ultimate diet drink!! DIET COKE is the best!! :} Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 11:58:49 -0500 From: Tammy Harris To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Flashlights Under The Covers was Re:booklovers Message-ID: <8C98A90D87-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu> Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > > OBMisty: You know what else they don't have in Velgarth.....dancing! At > > least I don't remember anything about dance. That's pretty strange. Jaguar replied: > Yes, they do, too! Darkwind and Tre'valen's Hawk and Wind dance > in the beginning of WoChange. Darkwind makes some comment about just > finding an excuse to dance for Elspeth. :) Also, there was the ball after Elspeth was formally named as Heir. 'Member? Kris kept dancing with her and Talia, to escape the female courtiers who were chasing him. Tammy "It's time to ask yourself what you believe" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 19:24:09 +0200 (METDST) From: Birgit Hanel To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Flashlights Under The Covers was Re:booklovers Message-ID: On Sat, 4 May 1996, Leah M Postrech wrote: > I used to read with a flashlight under the covers. My parents used to > get mad and they also said it was bad for my eyes. (Gee, they must > have been right. I have special "thin" glasses, and they're pretty > thick. :)) Now, luckily, my mom doesn't bug me anymore, so I don't Now that can't be. Somewhere (sorry, no TxtEvd here :)) I once read that reading with a comparatively weak source of light (candle or flashlight) won't affect your eyes; they'll just adapt to the weaker light. It certainly didn't affect mine, since I was shortsighted even before I could read (and my parents used to wonder why I always bumped into furniture etc. ;)). Now I have this special thin glass in my glasses, either (and it is d**** expensive). ObMisty: There aren't many shortsighted people in Valdemar. (Do we ever hear of some?) Although there was this glasses incident in The Fire Rose that I've read about (in the Baen-Interview, I haven't read TFR yet). There don't seem to be many people who need glasses in Fantasy in general (lucky ones!). Bis denne, Skyfire ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 19:48:36 +0200 (METDST) From: Birgit Hanel To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: asparagus Message-ID: On Sat, 4 May 1996 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > > am working on my Tayledras persona Skyfire, currently a > > sucker for asparagus (the season is sooo short!); > > Ahh, yes, but ..... green or white? Butter or Hollandaise? Sancerre or > Muscadet? Life is soooo complicated! Why, white, of course! The green things just aren't the real stuff (no offense meant to all the folks who like green, e.g. Cennydd, and you, Esmeralda , ach, and all the Ladies in Green and their champignons, errr, champions. Is that the whole lot now? I like green, the colour, I mean, I really do, a good part of my clothes are green , so now...) As for the sauce, this year's favourite is Maltese, sauce, not Falcon ... That's with oranges. I'll better stop now. Painkillers obviously make me silly. Writing silly things. ObMisty: There's obviously no asparagus in Valdemar. (They'll never know what they are missing) Bis denne Khenta B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 96 09:33:59 PDT From: "sean collins" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: California dreamin' Message-ID: <9605061757.AA19176-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> REPLY TO 05/04/96 20:56 FROM mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk: Re: Re[2]: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs I caught somebodies post that said they were in San Jose, California. Wow, a Misty fan really close by, I am in Palo Alto (actually Stanford campus) Sorry about posting this to the main list but I accidentally deleted the message. ObMisty: People in Valdemar aren't thousands of miles away from the people they write to. (wow my first ObMisty!) Sean To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Rossinyol To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Heinlein Message-ID: On Mon, 6 May 1996, Tammy Bender wrote: > It's your opinion that Lazarus and the twins having sex was > inappropriate. By the mores of their culture, which were based on > genetics and _not_ on Judeo-Christian ethics, there was absolutely > nothing inappropriate in it. It had the full-fledged approval of the head > geneticist Well, geneticists would be the final word on what was psychologically and emotionally a good idea...NOT! Seriously, this does get into some very icky issues, but one thing that I will maintain is that a geneticist is not the right person to decide whether human social interaction is advisable. All a geneticist is really qualified to say, in this context, is whether there are genetic risks involved in procreation. Procreation is only one tiny part of sexuality. > Let me point out, this is _speculative fiction_. An exercise in "what > ifs". Just try for a moment to forget your culture and imagine a society > where sexual mores were determined differently than they are in our > culture. Let me also point out that writing about something doesn't > imply, by any stretch of the imagination, encouraging the fictional act > in RL. Of course you're going to find things you'll disagree with if you > read it as such. Do you think murder mystery writers are encouraging murder? As I previously stated, I can't respect an author who would valorize an ideology that they did not support. Either Heinlien was proposing an alternative that he supported (In which case, I dislike his beliefs) or he was advocating an alternative that he did not support (In which case, I dislike him personally). BTW, when you advise that I "forget my culture," just which culture do you think that would be? You are making some big assumptions. > Despite the fact that he kept an open mind toward different sexual ideas > and challenged others to do the same through his writing. My point was that his "open" mind struck me more as mere lip-service to an idea that he didn't really believe. > I think this argument is getting a bit out of hand. Why do you feel you > can judge the man's feelings toward sexuality at all? Gee, I don't know? Because he presumed to judge mine, with even less evidence (since I have never written a book about my ideas)? That's a good reason for a start. Also, because I am a reasoning, intelligent creature who believes that the reason I have a brain is in order to make judgements. "The unexamined life is not worth living" doesn't mean, look around but don't think and don't make judgements. It mean, look carefully, think deeply, and decide how you feel about things. People who go through life trying not to make judgements scare me. They are so self-deluded that there is no telling what they will do. However, on one point I agree with you. This thread is tired! This is my last post on it, say what anyone will. It's been real and it's been fun, but it is definitely not "real fun." May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Eu guardo a luz das estrelas a alma de cada folha Sem folhas nao tem vida, Sem folhas nao tem nada, Salve as folhas! Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-strauss.udel.edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 11:28:53 -0700 (PDT) From: MELISA TREMBLAY To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: RE: All Us Poor Dateless Slobs Message-ID: A coconut flys through the air with the greatest of ease, searching for a certain Shadow-Lover. As the coconut is flying, it is thinking to itself. *I'll show you pouncing, just let me at him!!!!!!* It searches steadily through the night. Searching Searching *AHA!!!* Splat *Found You, Shadow-Lover!!!* >From one dateless person to another, Melisa On Sun, 5 May 1996, Shadow-Lover wrote: > Shadow-Lover sits in the darkness and shadows, sending out wraiths and > shades to pounce various list members (No Mel, even you aren't safe from > this one :) *ZAAAAP* *WHOOOOOOOOSH* *POUNCE* > > PPPPPPPP OOOOOOO U U N N CCCCCCC EEEEEEEEE ! > P P O O U U N N N C C E ! > P P O O U U N N N C E ! > P P O O U U N N N C E ! > PPPPPPPP O O U U N N N C EEEEEE ! > P O O U U N N N C E ! > P O O U U N N N C E ! > P O O U U N NN C C E > P OOOOOOO UUUUU N N CCCCCCC EEEEEEEEE ! > > > Viola... All you poor dateless slobs are now pounced, wherever you are!!! > > > -Shadow-Lover <-- DMF #5 but never a slob.. :) > > Who is watching for homing coconuts, and wondering what's coming after HIM! > > ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 540 *********************************