MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 565 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Silly Man by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 2) Norse vs. Pagan/Wiccan by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 3) Re: Festivals/holidays Kris' Ring by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 4) Same-sex marriages(3X)/Red Rage/Ms?/Silver Gryphon by Shadows415-+AT+-aol.com 5) Re: re: Welcome, Mere & disease in Valdemar by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 6) Re: Norse deities (not fluff this time!) by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 7) Re: Glasses by adowd-+AT+-brynmawr.edu 8) AP exams by adowd-+AT+-brynmawr.edu 9) Re: ML's non-Valdemar books by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 10) Re: Glasses by "Perkins,Cheryl;=7001696" 11) re: hugs by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 12) Re: Braid away by Catherine Osborne 13) re: Gating all over (was: Gating...in Rochester?) by reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> 14) re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 15) Re: Heather Alexander by "sean collins" 16) Re: fwd: Free at last!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA (also some questions) by hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) 17) Re: Norse deities (not fluff this time!) by Mat Timmerman 18) Re:swallow by Mat Timmerman 19) Re: Norse deities (not fluff this time!) by Tensen 20) Re: Braid away by Mat Timmerman 21) Re: Glasses by Tensen 22) Re: Heather Alexander by Mat Timmerman 23) by NWMT42C-+AT+-prodigy.com ( MICHELLE DAVIS) 24) re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? by reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> 25) Re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? by Yfandes 26) Re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? by Yfandes 27) Re: Silly Man by Jakus Maximus <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 18:37:45 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Silly Man Message-ID: <960516183744_115135961-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com> >>Is he being put out to stud next? ;) Shadowspun, sorry for the short.<< Ooh, wouldn't *that* be fun? Kinda like putting him out to pasture only releasing all the depressed lady fans that like a guy who suggests going skyclad. You know I *still* think he should go skyclad. Just don't see why he doesn't want to, I'm sure nobody would object. I certainly wouldn't. Lady Moonsong (Adept-class tayledras mage), Lady Windshadow (Lady Moonsong's black panther mindmate), Lady Kreana (Lady Moonsong's golden eagle bondbird) Ones In Black and Ladies In Green "Just what is a dog? Let me put it this way . . . if a dog were a faucet it would leak." - Garfield the Cat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 18:37:49 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Norse vs. Pagan/Wiccan Message-ID: <960516183747_115136019-+AT+-emout13.mail.aol.com> Forgive me if this sounds ignorant or if I accidentally insult someone but is there a similarity between Norse gods/goddesses and Pagan/Wiccan gods/goddesses? I'm a learning Pagan/Wiccan and my Goddess and her consort are Viviana and Myrddin. I guess I'm a learning priestess of theirs? I'm not really sure but in this certain meditation I learned they appeared and not in words but they told me that they were the ones guiding or looking after (can't find the right term) so does that make me their priestess? Sorry if I insulted anyone and I'm also sorry if this is too religious to post on a public list or something like that. Anybody have any answers? It seems with every answer I get I just get more questions . . . Lady Moonsong (Adept-class tayledras mage), Lady Windshadow (Lady Moonsong's black panther mindmate), Lady Kreana (Lady Moonsong's golden eagle bondbird) Ones In Black and Ladies In Green "Just what is a dog? Let me put it this way . . . if a dog were a faucet it would leak." - Garfield the Cat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 18:37:41 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Festivals/holidays Kris' Ring Message-ID: <960516183741_115135921-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com> >> They are slightly different in style, >but they are both sterling silver , two hands clasped.<< My best friend (at the time) and I found a friendship ring that was two rings. (one for each of us) One ring was a gold hand and the other was a silver fist made to be able to clutch the gold hand. (like a handshake) It was really neat until they both started to rust. (the gold one did it the worst and that's the one my friend had) We are not friends anymore and to tell the truth I'm not really sure what happened to that ring. It was really neat at the time though. Was that something like you were looking for or did you actually find the one you wanted? Lady Moonsong (Adept-class tayledras mage), Lady Windshadow (Lady Moonsong's black panther mindmate), Lady Kreana (Lady Moonsong's golden eagle bondbird) Ones In Black and Ladies In Green "Just what is a dog? Let me put it this way . . . if a dog were a faucet it would leak." - Garfield the Cat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:01:05 -0400 From: Shadows415-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Same-sex marriages(3X)/Red Rage/Ms?/Silver Gryphon Message-ID: <960516190103_295841296-+AT+-emout12.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-05-15 09:36:46 EDT, you write: >My, my. I am just deluged with offers of marriage. And the chance to be >a wife and put all my mother's years of training to good use is very >tempting. But I have decided to hold out in hopes that, sometime in my >lifetime, same-sex marriages will be legally recognized and I will be >able to marry my boyfriend. > >ObMisty: I think we may have covered this before, but do they have >same-sex marriages in Velgarth? I think that Moondance and Starsong(?) >were the equivalent of married, but what about in the more cohesive >nations like Valdemar, Jkatha, Rethwellen, etc? > >Cennydd I just heard on the news yesterday that some "wonderful" state legislator here in Pa has introduced a bill making same-sex marriages illegal. Am I just imagining things or doesn't the rest of the country realize that that IS discrimination? Why doesn't the Supreme Court get pulled in here? Anyway, I think in the Shin'a'in and Tayledras societies they are legal and acceptable, but not in the ones like Valdemar and Rethwellan. I don't think anything other than the fact that Solaris made "non-consensual liaisons" (SWarning, p194) verboten, even if same-sex pairings were supposedly against Vkandis' Will, was maentioned about Karse. >> ObMisty: I think we may have covered this before, but do they have >> same-sex marriages in Velgarth? I think that Moondance and Starsong(?) >> were the equivalent of married, but what about in the more cohesive >> nations like Valdemar, Jkatha, Rethwellen, etc? >> > In Valdemar, I think it would come under the heading of "no one true >way," though I don't think we've seen any specific instances of it. > >Lady Jaguar I think we have seen a point of it. Remember how Tallo (who became Moondance) was treated, also Van and Tylendel. >OBMisty (well a question really) - a lot of people have said that Silver >Gryphon isn't that great. How so exactly? Would it be worth ordering it >(bearing in mind that I have to do so overseas, and pay the hideous postage >costs) in hardback, or should I wait until somebody finally decides that New >Zealand should be allowed a few copies? > >Mere I liked it. I do agree that it was more an elongated short story than a novel, but I did like it. I wouldn't order it if I were you, but is there any way to get a hold of DAW and have them put New Zealand on a regular shipping schedule? >Misty will be at the Walden Books in the Woodland Hills >Mall on 5/18/96, from 3-6 pm, and then again at the Walden in the >Promonade Mall on 6/29/96 from 3-6 pm. Got the info from an inside >source, so I know it's true. Hope some of you are able to attend! > >Mel Is there any way we can order signed books from whatever Waldenbooks those are? I would pay the extra money. I think. >On a sort-of related note, I was thinking about titles in Valdemar, too. As >far as I remember -- and I'm more than happy for someone to correct me, here -- >I don't think they have any 'Miss'/'Mrs'/'Mr' equivalents. 'Lord' and 'Lady', >sure, but the common folks who marry -- what're they known as? > >Mel In Arrows trilogy, Talia refers to Goodwife Hardaxe (AoQ, p39) and Darowife (AoQ, p42) >>I wrote >> Sorry for the short, but what is Red Rage? If it's a reference to Norse >> mythology, I'm more up on Greek, sorry. >> > >Its usually known as beserkerism... > >Tensen Ah, now that I've heard of. Danke. >Snipped stuff AliFarr wrote about same-sex marriages being commonplace: Um, I think that might be more because they were a group of soldiers (more of a big family). You know how the mercenaries seemed to take same-sex pairings in a lot better stride than non-mercs. Although Withen was apparently deaf, dumb and blind to the fact that a lot of the mercs who worked for him were shieldmates. I think I'll send this now. Shadowspun ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:06:01 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: re: Welcome, Mere & disease in Valdemar Message-ID: <960516190600_302535640-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com> >>> I'm the very, very unofficial welcoming commitee (Anyone else want to join the committee?)<<< Ooh, ooh, me me! I just *love* being part of a welcoming committee. This is sooooo totally off-topic it's unbelievable. (o.k. those who know me would say unbelievable, right, everything's believable with her but that's beyond the point right now . . .) Anyway back to my totally off-topic: you know the football games when the players always dump the icewater on the coach? I've *always* wanted to do that! Wouldn't that just be a blast? Sorry, I'll go now. Lady Moonsong (Adept-class tayledras mage), Lady Windshadow (Lady Moonsong's black panther mindmate), Lady Kreana (Lady Moonsong's golden eagle bondbird) Ones In Black and Ladies In Green "Just what is a cat? A cat is a furry animal, complete with dog nibblers and furniture shredders. *HACK* The hairballs in the throat are also standard equipment." - Garfield the Cat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:05:57 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Norse deities (not fluff this time!) Message-ID: <960516190556_302535578-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com> >>>I have _Princess Bride_ on in the background. :) |~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*LADY JAGUAR*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~|<<< I LOVE that movie! I can't believe someone else likes it. *inconceivable* Does anybody else? My family thinks it's a stupid movie. *inconceivable* Lady Moonsong (Adept-class tayledras mage), Lady Windshadow (Lady Moonsong's black panther mindmate), Lady Kreana (Lady Moonsong's golden eagle bondbird) Ones In Black and Ladies In Green "Just what is a cat? A cat is a furry animal, complete with dog nibblers and furniture shredders. *HACK* The hairballs in the throat are also standard equipment." - Garfield the Cat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 19:53:11 -0400 From: adowd-+AT+-brynmawr.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Glasses Message-ID: On Wednesday, May 15, Lady Wintersong wrote: >At 08:58 AM 5/10/96 +0100, Midnite Whisper wrote: >>What do lifeguards do? They can't wear goggles all the time, and if they >>wear glasses when they're on duty, what do they do if they have to save >>someone's life? >I suppose they only hire guards who can swim and see enough without glasses >to have to save somebody. After all, they have to pass tests. Well, I asked my sister about this. She lifeguarded last summer, and, as I think I mentioned earlier, she wears glasses -- well, contacts, actually. She said: >About lifeguards who wear glasses. When I lifeguard, I wear my contacts. >If ever I have to jump in the pool, which is very rare, I'll risk loosing >them. A life is more important than a stupid contact. I'd just buy a new >one if I lost it. But you'd be surprised at how well they stay in. One >time I was swimming in a race, doing the backstroke. Immediately when I >pushed off the wall, my goggles fell off. I was in a relay so I couldn't >stop, because the relay team depended on me. I just prayed that my >contacts would stay in and they did. It's kind of amazing becuase my head >went under the water a few times. I just guess it's lucky that I was doing >the backstroke and not something else. > I guess, if you wore glasses, not contacts, you could just wear prescription sunglasses, and take them off real quick if you had to jump in the water. Hopefully, you'd be able to see well enough to tell which fuzzy blur is having trouble staying above water. And, like you said, lifeguards do have to pass tests, so if their vision was SO bad as to actively prevent them from being an effective lifeguard, they would probably fail the test. I hope that was helpful. -Aimee **************************************************************************** "I went to a restaurant that serves * "Outside of a dog a book is man's 'breakfast at any time.' So I ordered * best friend. Inside of a dog French Toast during the Renaissance." * it's too dark to read!" --Steven Wright * -- Groucho Marx **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:31:56 -0400 From: adowd-+AT+-brynmawr.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: AP exams Message-ID: On Wed. May 15, Khenta said: >Alright, alright, now I'll bite, and I'm not at all sorry for being >off-topic, since you started it all : > >WHAT is AP? > >Feel free to eMail me privately. > I'll post this to the list at large, since there are many non-Americans on the list who are probably wondering the same thing. AP stands for Advanced Placement. High school kids who know they are going to go (or at least apply to!) college can take Advanced Placement courses. There are several different AP subjects; what you can take depends on which ones your high school offers. If you score high enough on the AP test, you can get college credit for that subject. Again, how high you have to score and how much credit you get depends on the individual college. You have to pay money to ETS (Educational Testing Service) to take the AP exams -- ETS charges a fee to process each test. The money is for the test, not the class. You could, if you wanted to, take the AP class and not take the test. And I suppose you could take the test without having taken the class; you just probably wouldn't do well. I took two AP tests, and I didn't get credit for either of them. I got a 3 on the AP American History test (the scores range from 1 to 5, where 5 is the highest you can get), which wasn't high enough to get credit at the school I finally decided to go to, although it was high enough to get credit at a couple other schools I was considering. The same thing happened with the AP English test -- I got a 4, which was high enough for credit at EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL I applied to EXCEPT for the one I actually went to! They only give credit for a 5. And they're thinking about changing that and not giving credit for the AP English test at all! If had I gotten credit for the AP English test, that would have meant that I wouldn't have had to take freshman english. But I liked my freshman english class, so it all worked out. I hope that clears things up! -Aimee **************************************************************************** "I went to a restaurant that serves * "Outside of a dog a book is man's 'breakfast at any time.' So I ordered * best friend. Inside of a dog French Toast during the Renaissance." * it's too dark to read!" --Steven Wright * -- Groucho Marx **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 96 11:24:03 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ML's non-Valdemar books Message-ID: <9605170924.AA05851-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> I asked for advice on reading order of the Di Tregarde books - thanks - the general opinion seems to be CotN, BW, JH. I mentioned that I'd been browsing a publishers page of sample chapters and found something I'd now be looking out for, and Mat asked > What was the book from the web site? It was Wind from a Foreign Sky by Katya Reimann. The page is "Tor SF & Fantasy" (http://www.tor.com/) and they have 30 or so sample chapters from both old and new books - another that has caught me is A College of Magics by Caroline Stevermer - you get the first 4 chapters - easily enough to whet the appetite. I've come across this one in the UK, but have yet to buy it. The Katya Reimann is only out in hardback this year, so there's a long wait for that one! Absolutely no ObMisty I'm afraid - I'm re-reading Deerskin by Robin McKinley at the moment, so am out of Valdemar mode. 'n prettige weekend, Esmeralda Evensbane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 07:09:26 +0000 From: "Perkins,Cheryl;=7001696" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Glasses Message-ID: I'm damn near blind without my glasses. And I don't like lenses. I did learn to swim, squinting like mad at the instructor, who seemed to think that the poor characters in the pool could actually see her demonstration of swimming strokes. Lifeguards, in my experience, tend to be terribly fit young men and women. Which is as it should be. I haven't given them eye tests. Cheryl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 96 11:53:42 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: hugs Message-ID: <9605170953.AA05886-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> Cennydd wrote: > Would this be the inimitable "The Hedgehug Can't Be Buggered At All!" =) Then Kerry - > Why do I have this mad urge to start singing "But the hedgehog can never > be buggered at all..."? Oh thank you thankyou thankyou - I couldn't work out why hedgehugging was generating a rude-smirk reaction - hardly appropriate for a hug-thread, but at the back of my head a dirty snigger has definitely been lurking - and now I know why! Of course!! How could I, a dedicated Pterryite, who uses his quotes in my sigs now and then, and has a Web bookmark to one of his sites forget that wonderful song?!!! Go see http://info.ox.ac.uk/~hu94003/Humour/pratchett.html !! Esmeralda **************************************************************************** * In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the * * cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat * * could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious. * * -- Schrodinger's Moggy explained (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) -- * **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 07:41:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine Osborne To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid away Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > I read the abridged version that the movie came from. Even it gets sort > of boring at times. But you do find out some things that make no sense in > the movie. Like how does Buttercup go from farm-girl to Princess? I > forget how (it's been 7-8 years since I read it), but I remember that it > does explain it. There's a long author's note in the beginning about why > the abridged version got done. It's a bit like the Fred Savage part of > the movie. The abridger's grandad read him the book when he was young. > He didn't realize that grandad was only reading the good parts. Years > later, he searched for the book, and discovered it to be really dull. So > he published a "good parts version" so that people could enjoy it. > Wow, I'm suprised that I remember all of that!!!!!<-ob!'s :) Dearheart, I think the introduction was a joke. The "abridged version" *is* the real thing. The whole thing. AFA the book, I rather liked it. It certainly wasn't the movie ;) but actually I would recommend it be read before the movie. Several things are rather glossed over in the movie, like what Mat says above about Buttercup (Humperdinck was out riding and saw her crossing a bridge with some livestock and fell in love and she couldn't say no for obvious reasons, IIRC) and what the whole rhyming thing with Fezzig and Inigo means. It does have some pretty dead parts (the bit explaining Inigo's history springs immediately to mind) but on the whole it's ok. Catherine Osborne (Sundancer) I cosborne-+AT+-sidwell.edu -------------------------------------------------------------- Why would a fellow want a girl like her,I A girl who's merely love-ly? I Rodgers and Why can't a fellow ever once prefer, I Hammerstein, A girl who's merely *me*? I *Cinderella* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:23:34 +0100 (BST) From: reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: Gating all over (was: Gating...in Rochester?) Message-ID: <199605171223.NAA18031-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> >On Thu, 16 May 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote: >> > The weather's been going crazy over here! Two nights ago (I think) it >> > started snowing merrily...in MAY!!! And the next day it was HOT and >> > sunny! Not that I'm complaining about *that*... >> > Someone's been mucking around with Gates here, IMHO. >> >> I hear that one. I live in Syracuse and it snowed 2.1 inches on >> Mother's Day. Over the last seven years, we have had five of our >> snowest winters. This year is number 2 now. It was number 3 until >> Sunday. >> Looks like they've been using a lot of magic (not just gates) around >> here lately. >> > Looks like they've been using a lot of magic all over. Last summer >was one of the hottest yet, with lots of people actually dying of the >heat, and right after that we get the blizzard, with people dying of >hypothermia. Maybe we're in for some mage-storms... > >|~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*LADY JAGUAR*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~| >| Leader of the Cat People * Lady in Green * LGMCB Conspirator * DHTBB Lobe | >| "I believe That if you knew just what these tears were for | >| They would just pour Like every drop of rain..." | >| --Tears for Fears "I Believe"-- | >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > Think I might agree. It's been sunny here all week, and now it's _cold_ raining and frosty at night. And this is officially summer! Ailsa. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 96 16:03:56 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? Message-ID: <9605171403.AA06628-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> sean's ObMisty t'other day was: > ObMisty: You can't get thrown in jail for 16 years for stealing a > loaf of bread in Valdemar (I don't think!) which got me thinking - are there jails in Valdemar? Blowed if I know, the rapist that Talis "deals" with - well the trader she rescued was about to be lynched by the mob when she turned up, suggesting a certain rough and ready approach, but if she'd determined his guilt without turning him gah-gah, what would have happened to him? We know that there's crime - there's Skif, Neave, Stef, Jays' new apprentice in the 2nd Magic book - all who've dabbled in petty crime, and we know there are circuit judges and heralds to dispense justice - buuuut, no mention of what happens to the worng-doers. Or is there????? (Now what are 5 question marks a sure sign of? Ignorance maybe!) 'n prettige weekend Esmerald Evensbane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 96 08:50:59 PDT From: "sean collins" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Heather Alexander Message-ID: <9605171600.AA06488-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> REPLY TO 05/16/96 18:55 FROM mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk: Re: Heather Alexander Mat asked what songs Heather Alexander did off of Wanderlust. Well the ones I can remember are Harvest Season, Stolen Child, Contraridance. Neverland, and Wanderlust. She also did a couple off of her next albulm (she said it would be released sometime this summer.) They were all excellent. I really enjoyed the whole show, it was incredible just to be able to walk ten minutes and see her! She is really funny too, and when tuning her instruments kept us all entertained with her stories and jokes. I can't wait to see her again next Thursday. ObMisty: There are no Sidhe or Pirates on Velgarth (that we know about!) Sean To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 09:02:54 -0700 From: hirschco-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Farrin) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: fwd: Free at last!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA (also some questions) Message-ID: <199605171602.JAA23154-+AT+-dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> Vrondi said: >Our Textbooks in grade school said: > Miss = unmarried female > Mrs. = married female > Ms. = modern addition to > give women the ability > to keep marital status private. >ok? hope that clears things up some. Many women in public >proffessions keep their own last name when they marry to avoid >condusion. They have for years. But it has been becoming more common >in recent years for a woman to keep her name simply because she wants >to. I've never meard a woman use Mrs. with her maiden name. Always >seen women keeping their own name using Ms. This is way off topic, but I have to add it because I was ROTFL at the Christian right when I realized the implications. In good old California, home of the highest percentage of unwed mothers (for shame);) in the US, it comes to light that the records office is coding every woman who retains her maiden name after marriage and then gives birth as an unwed mother. Since we have a fair number of radical feminst types that like having their own identities, we have managed to skew the "family type" statistics so badly it will take years to straighten them out. Sorry, no OBMisty. Can't think of one. AliFarr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:08:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Norse deities (not fluff this time!) Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 1996, Mat Timmerman wrote: > > When you get it done, send me a copy. You know how I have those Misty > lyrics on my web page? Well not anymore. This morning I got a polite > cease and desist from Misty's agent. So, I took them off. Oh, well, I > didn't originally do it for the page anyway. Oops, sorry everyone. I meant to send that only to Jaguar. That's what I get for switching over to Pine. Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "There is no one, true way" -- Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:11:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:swallow Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 1996, Vrondi wrote: > On 15 May 96 Mat Timmerman wrote: > > > > 3.) What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? > > > > > > > Depends, African or European? (Isn't this how that last coconut war > > > started, with this same exact question?) > > > > You know, I think that this summer, I better get around to actually seeing > > that movie. > > 'scuse me, WHAT movie?????? > (sorry for the one-liner Mel, but I'll try to do the braiding thingie > more often from now on.) Sorry about that. I thought everyone on the list knew that all the swallow and coconut jokes referred to the movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail". I've been meaning to see it for months, but I never got around to it. Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "There is no one, true way" -- Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 11:46:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Tensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Norse deities (not fluff this time!) Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 1996 Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > >>>I have _Princess > Bride_ on in the background. :) > > |~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*LADY > JAGUAR*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~|<<< > > I LOVE that movie! I can't believe someone else likes it. *inconceivable* > Does anybody else? My family thinks it's a stupid movie. *inconceivable* > I have a copy of the tape and love it. I haven't yet learned the lines enough to quote it word for word, but most of my friends have. Its *inconceivable* that you haven't run into others that love it. Tensen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid away Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 1996, Catherine Osborne wrote: > > Dearheart, I think the introduction was a joke. The "abridged version" > *is* the real thing. The whole thing. Really? Well, like I said, I read it around 7-8 years ago. I remember that I was at my older brother's high school graduation, and I was so bored that I pulled out my book and began to read (I don't go anywhere without a book). My mom kept giving me dirty looks, but I kept reading. > AFA the book, I rather liked it. It certainly wasn't the movie ;) but > actually I would recommend it be read before the movie. Several things > are rather glossed over in the movie, like what Mat says above about > Buttercup (Humperdinck was out riding and saw her crossing a bridge with > some livestock and fell in love and she couldn't say no for obvious > reasons, IIRC) and what the whole rhyming thing with Fezzig and Inigo > means. It does have some pretty dead parts (the bit explaining Inigo's > history springs immediately to mind) but on the whole it's ok. Yes, I remember that now. I remember the parts about Inigo and his dad almost making me stop reading the book, they were so slow. But on the whole, the book isn't that bad. I think I've got to get around to rereading it one of these days (after I finnish Katherine Kerr's Deverry books, and aCoS, and SB, and....... :) ) obMisty: There are no R.O.U.S.'s (Rodents of Unusual Size) in Velgarth, but there *are* W.O.U.S.'s (Wyrsa of Unusual Size). Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "There is no one, true way" -- Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 11:49:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Tensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Glasses Message-ID: > >>What do lifeguards do? They can't wear goggles all the time, and if they > >>wear glasses when they're on duty, what do they do if they have to save > >>someone's life? > > >I suppose they only hire guards who can swim and see enough without glasses > >to have to save somebody. After all, they have to pass tests. > I wear glasses, but if I chose to swim underwater... which I usually do, because I'm lousy swimming above water. I have almost perfectly clear vision underwater... The refraction does wonders for my eyesight. Tensen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Heather Alexander Message-ID: On Fri, 17 May 1996, sean collins wrote: > Mat asked what songs Heather Alexander did off of Wanderlust. Well > the ones I can remember are Harvest Season, Stolen Child, > Contraridance. Neverland, and Wanderlust. She also did a couple off > of her next albulm (she said it would be released sometime this > summer.) My favorite songs from that album are Neverland, Wanderlust, Faerie Queen, and Harvest Season, so I'd really have enjoyed myself. And I hope that Firebird gets the album as soon as it comes out. This time I'm getting the CD!!!!!<--ob5! > They were all excellent. I really enjoyed the whole show, it was > incredible just to be able to walk ten minutes and see her! She is > really funny too, and when tuning her instruments kept us all > entertained with her stories and jokes. I can't wait to see her > again next Thursday. Rassum Frassum lucky guy.... > ObMisty: There are no Sidhe or Pirates on Velgarth (that we know > about!) Yes there are! There are pirates on Lake Evendim. They get mentioned in the beginning of AFall, IIRC. I doubt that there are young boys who can fly and don't age though. :) Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "There is no one, true way" -- Mercedes Lackey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:11:41, -0500 From: NWMT42C-+AT+-prodigy.com ( MICHELLE DAVIS) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Message-ID: <199605171611.MAA13148-+AT+-mime4.prodigy.com> On 15 May 96 Mat Timmerman wrote: >>>> 3.) What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? >>> Depends, African or European? (Isn't this how that last coconut war >>> started, with this same exact question?) >> You know, I think that this summer, I better get around to actually seeing >> that movie. Vrondi wrote: >'scuse me, WHAT movie?????? >sorry for the one-liner Mel, but I'll try to do the braiding thingie >more often from now on.) >-Vrondi If I am correct the move is Monty Python's The Holy Grail. Of course I could be wrong... Jennet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:01:14 +0100 (BST) From: reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? Message-ID: <199605171701.SAA19847-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> > >sean's ObMisty t'other day was: > > ObMisty: You can't get thrown in jail for 16 years for stealing a > > loaf of bread in Valdemar (I don't think!) >which got me thinking - are there jails in Valdemar? Blowed if I know, >the rapist that Talis "deals" with - well the trader she rescued was >about to be lynched by the mob when she turned up, suggesting a certain >rough and ready approach, but if she'd determined his guilt without >turning him gah-gah, what would have happened to him? We know that >there's crime - there's Skif, Neave, Stef, Jays' new apprentice in >the 2nd Magic book - all who've dabbled in petty crime, and we know there >are circuit judges and heralds to dispense justice - buuuut, no mention of >what happens to the worng-doers. Or is there????? (Now what are 5 question >marks a sure sign of? Ignorance maybe!) > >'n prettige weekend >Esmerald Evensbane I think it says somewhere ?Storm Rising? that Skif's mother got hung for stealing, but can't be sure cos I'm here, my books are at home. The place is sort of medieval set-up so maybe theres stocks for "minor" misdeeds? Just guessing Ailsa. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:15:19 -0700 From: Yfandes To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? Message-ID: <319CEC67.7E87-+AT+-mail.wcis.com> dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote: > > sean's ObMisty t'other day was: > > ObMisty: You can't get thrown in jail for 16 years for stealing a > > loaf of bread in Valdemar (I don't think!) > which got me thinking - are there jails in Valdemar? Blowed if I know, > the rapist that Talis "deals" with - well the trader she rescued was > about to be lynched by the mob when she turned up, suggesting a certain > rough and ready approach, but if she'd determined his guilt without > turning him gah-gah, what would have happened to him? We know that > there's crime - there's Skif, Neave, Stef, Jays' new apprentice in > the 2nd Magic book - all who've dabbled in petty crime, and we know there > are circuit judges and heralds to dispense justice - buuuut, no mention of > what happens to the worng-doers. Or is there????? (Now what are 5 question > marks a sure sign of? Ignorance maybe!) > > 'n prettige weekend > Esmerald Evensbane No you can't go to jail in Valdemar for 16 years. (At least not for stealing bread.) The Heralds wouldn't let them. Actually, I'm not sure whether they had jails or not. I don't know if they were imprisoned, or if they were just punished. About Jay's new apprentice. He was committing crimes before he became a trainee. He was 'rescued' on the way to the court. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:20:51 -0700 From: Yfandes To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: well,....um, jails in Valdemar?? Message-ID: <319CEDB3.8CA-+AT+-mail.wcis.com> reid ailsa wrote: > > > > >sean's ObMisty t'other day was: > > > ObMisty: You can't get thrown in jail for 16 years for stealing a > > > loaf of bread in Valdemar (I don't think!) > >which got me thinking - are there jails in Valdemar? Blowed if I know, > >the rapist that Talis "deals" with - well the trader she rescued was > >about to be lynched by the mob when she turned up, suggesting a certain > >rough and ready approach, but if she'd determined his guilt without > >turning him gah-gah, what would have happened to him? We know that > >there's crime - there's Skif, Neave, Stef, Jays' new apprentice in > >the 2nd Magic book - all who've dabbled in petty crime, and we know there > >are circuit judges and heralds to dispense justice - buuuut, no mention of > >what happens to the worng-doers. Or is there????? (Now what are 5 question > >marks a sure sign of? Ignorance maybe!) > > > >'n prettige weekend > >Esmerald Evensbane > > I think it says somewhere ?Storm Rising? that Skif's mother got hung for > stealing, but can't be sure cos I'm here, my books are at home. > The place is sort of medieval set-up so maybe theres stocks for "minor" > misdeeds? > Just guessing > Ailsa. No. I think it says that Skif's mother was killed by a rival, and it was his uncle (the one who raised him) that got hanged. Also, I'm pretty sure that it either comes up in Arrows of the Queen or the Mage Winds ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 96 18:03:22 EDT From: Jakus Maximus <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Silly Man Message-ID: <960517220322_102744.2515_GHT66-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Moonsong wrote: > >>Is he being put out to stud next? ;) > >Shadowspun, sorry for the short.<< > >Ooh, wouldn't *that* be fun? Kinda like putting him out >to pasture only releasing all the depressed lady fans that like a guy who >suggests going skyclad. !! What did I get myself into? And Kittengirl's not here to save me ... >You know I *still* think he should go skyclad. Just >don't see why he doesn't want to, I'm sure nobody would object. I certainly >wouldn't. Yes, but *I* would ... and I think that's the operative thing, here. Jake / Rynath 102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com ================================================================= "When I was your age, we didn't have fantasy authors like Mercedes Lackey. *We* were stuck with writers like J. R. R. Tolkien. And we liked it!" -- The old codger discusses fantasy authors ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 565 *********************************