MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 610 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Evil people with air conditioning by Sandra K Haas 2) Re: WTTF? DDMF/SDMF Confusion... by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 3) Re: Used Books was RE: Another new one! by Jake <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> 4) Re: question by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 5) Re: persona by ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com 6) Re: hugging/librarians by ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com 7) Re: Good GGK books? by ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com 8) Re: Girl Scouts by Becky Anne Christensen 9) Re: Girl Scouts by Becky Anne Christensen 10) Re: Foot in mouth disease/ Shin'a'in 'zines/ Evil people with air conditioning by Becky Anne Christensen 11) C.S. Lewis (off topic) by JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com 12) Science Fiction Book Club (fwd) by Sean Talbot 13) Alberich/Prejudice/B\GScouts/The Phantom w\Companion! (fwd) by Sean Talbot 14) Re: Hypatia/books/music by "Vrondi" 15) What books would YOU save? by hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com 16) Re: List of list members by "Vrondi" 17) Re: thanks everyone. by "Vrondi" 18) Re: Reesa!!!!!!/Fireheart/wrtng name in books by "Vrondi" 19) Re: Braid: PC/Reqs/lgb marriage/GGK/minorities/newbie by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 20) Re: Request for our beloved Listmistress... by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 21) Re: Science Fiction Book Club by Mat Timmerman 22) Re: Book Murder One | What books would YOU save? by Mat Timmerman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:41:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Sandra K Haas To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Evil people with air conditioning Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > At 03:29 PM 6/11/96 +0100, Birgit Hanel wrote > >Spending her time in the air-conditioned computer lab ;) > > You are an evil wench. I don't suppose you'd care to share with me, > would you? The air conditioning guy isn't here yet, and it's just getting > hotter and hotter. I't not even overcast today... I'm going to be burned > alive... > > Lady 'Reesa the Incorrigable, > Whose air conditioner is going to be fixed this morning. > Or she will have killed herself by noon... Well, do we send flowers or what?? :} Re; the comment that we should all get the same peice of jewerly or something to bind us together. I like the idea, or maybe a poem or picture we can prop up next to the old 'pooter. I like having stuff around that reminds me of people I love. Which is probably why I am stressing these days. We just bought a farm house, (with 10 acres and 4 out building!!) and in preperation of the MOVE, I have started packing. All my books are packed :{ and all my little stuff and pictures that remind me of people/places I love. BTW, any one want to help us move on the 29th?? Beer and pizza!! obMisty: they have ale, what about pizza?? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:50:55 -0400 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: WTTF? DDMF/SDMF Confusion... Message-ID: <960611155054_215184886-+AT+-emout16.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-06-10 22:50:23 EDT, you write: >I am confused. I thought 'Reesa started it... she mentioned it, I think. I >was a member of the .. oh no. It was the SDMF's. Excuse me. I don't think >I >was ever IN the DDMF's. > >Jake Oh, well. It's basically the same group with a word changed. We aren't sad, we're depressed. So technically, you weren't but...oh well. It's too confusing. Lady Silvermoon (snipping her own sig 'cause this is totally non-Misty) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 96 15:52:48 EDT From: Jake <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> To: M-L mailing list Subject: Re: Used Books was RE: Another new one! Message-ID: <960611195248_102744.2515_GHT122-2-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> Lady 'Reesa said: >>Has anyone else noticed that you can very rarely find any Misty >>books at the used bookstore? And Lady Windsong wrote: >>Really? I found practically *all* my Misty books in secondhand bookstores.The only exception being the _Storm_ series, 'cos they aren't any cheaper in the used bookstore I go to, and it's faster to get them new. I don't know, I guess that the used bookstore I go to is very good. Anyone short of books? I could get them for you, if you swear on a stack of Vanyel books(as Lady 'Reesa also said)to pay me. << I think it was Lady Becky who mentioned originally the theory of why some used book stores don't work (this was ages ago, my Lady, so forgive me if I misquote (Miss Quote? A scout badge for a Girl Scout Orator? ) what you said. She mentioned (and I agree) that if you have a good used book, then why would you sell it to a used bookstore? I mean, I know Bookman's (love that place) in Arizona buys books from estate sales and such, but the book store on Staten Island (Barrett Book Trader ) just cycles used books, with the occasional new one. So the only Misty books in there are basically the ones I have and there was only three, anyway. It's tough finding newish (after 1988 or so) good fantasy there (especially since I scour the shelves about every day for it) and forget about finding books by Eddings or Jordan or Pratchett. I know I'm terrible in that I keep books I like, and I don't sell them back. Just another ramble (is it time for the medication AGAIN?) Stars Bright Thy Path (And Forever Guide Thee True), Jake <<102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>> ASPCB Head (American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Books) Champion of the Ladies in Green Keeper of the Scrolls of Misty Humor My car has a Heisenberg Uncertainty Spedometer: every time I take a look to see how fast I'm going the car stops moving. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:58:32 -0400 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: question Message-ID: <960611155831_215190165-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-06-11 09:40:33 EDT, you write: >Can you use a grandma? > >Carolyn > > Of course! We welcone anyone, young and old. You probably wouldn't find a significant other, but you'd have lots of friends. As a teen who loves her grandparents, I'm sure everyone would love to have you. Send in your basic info, name, age(if you don't mind) and location. :) Lady Silvermoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:26:22 -0400 From: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: persona Message-ID: <960611162307_412062085-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com> Right now, I'm not a member, right now, I'm trying to save up the 8$ in order to BECOME a member, but I was one for three years or so around 86 on. Actually, I could be wrong about being one of the first to design a costume, but it really wasn't on my list. Oh, for full time at a job I like! Oh, for making more than bare subsistence level money! Oh, for not being at the cutting edge of poverty! Oh, for getting paid to read books! Oh, for being a proofreader! Oh, I'm getting maudlin! Anyway, probably next month, I should have a little extra spending money, so I can rejoin. I'm looking forward to it. Herald Averren grows up, hooray!!!!! Lady Thess, MKGC, LiG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:27:38 -0400 From: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: hugging/librarians Message-ID: <960611162254_412062011-+AT+-emout10.mail.aol.com> Lady Kadessa, Anytime, love, there are an amazing number of huggers on this list, and we're all happy to send virtual hugs, and if we were there, you wouldn't get any work done from the sheer amount of people hugging you all the time. I'm just sorry you haven't gotten any from the other people around you. ********* Spider Robinson said it best. "Never piss off a librarian. They're the secret rulers of the world." Hug Lady Thess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:27:33 -0400 From: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: Good GGK books? Message-ID: <960611162245_412062034-+AT+-emout13.mail.aol.com> Ok, Shady, GGK wrote 6 books. 1. The Summer Tree 2. The Wandering Fire 3. The Darkest Road Those three are the Fionavar Tapestry, and they really are excellent, but just try the first one, and see if you like it. Me, I've read them alot, so I read them usually middle, last, first. Or last, middle, first. These made me teary, but not cry, I don't cry at books easily. Actually, only the last two on the list made me cry at all, the last one made me hysterical, it's wonderful. If you cry easily, Cenydd can tell you which will. (sorry, Cennydd, I avoid crying like the plague, it makes my eyes itchy and my head hurt, but I remember you saying that GGK books got to you, so I figured you're a good choice.) Next. 4. Tigana--modeled after Italy-as-city/states, and it's about a sorcerer who, in vengeance for his son killed in a war with a certain province, casts a spell to take away the name and history of the country in the minds of everyone not born there. And he plans to stay alive till all the people--kids and otherwise--have died so that the province is forever dead. Very good, but it gets better the more you reread it. 5. A Song for Arbonne. I can't even attempt a summary, but it's EXCELLENT. 6. The Lions of Al-Rassan, set in a land resembling medieval Spain, complete with three different religions to pose for Islam, Christianity, and Judaism. It made me cry in the middle, and by the end, I was crying so hard, I couldn't see the the pages to finish it, read it read it read it. Lady Thess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Girl Scouts Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Becky Cary wrote: > Hey, let's give a big round of applause to what's-his-name, the maker of > the vacuum cleaner. After all, if you think about it, who else in history > has made more money off of something that sucks? > > Ok, _besides_ Aaron Spelling. > Ooooh, I like that! Actually, to be perfectly nit picky, and throw out a useless trivia fact: NOTHING SUCKS! It's impossible for anything to suck, it's all pushed. It's all because of the little gas atoms............ *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Girl Scouts Message-ID: Well, I'm not to sure how much faith I can put in the Girl Scouts. Some of you might have heard a couple weeks ago about a 14 year old girl that got lost in Yosemite. Well, she has been a Girl Scout for most of her life, and she didn't even know enough to not wander around once you're lost. Since I was two my mother always said "If you ever get lost, stay put, don't move, stay where you are,people will find you" But, she didn't, she wasn't even that far from the trail when she got lost, but she decided to try to unlose herself, and got herself really lost, and wandered around for two nights in Yosemite. Now, if a Girl Scout doesn't know this, then how much do they really teach them? *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:52:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Foot in mouth disease/ Shin'a'in 'zines/ Evil people with air conditioning Message-ID: > At 03:29 PM 6/11/96 +0100, Birgit Hanel wrote: > >On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > > >Spending her time in the air-conditioned computer lab ;) > > You are an evil wench. I don't suppose you'd care to share with me, > would you? The air conditioning guy isn't here yet, and it's just getting > hotter and hotter. I't not even overcast today... I'm going to be burned > alive... > > Lady 'Reesa the Incorrigable, Well, get this for idiotic air conditioninng tales. It's been smoldering here in Fresno for about three weeks. Of course the air conditioning at school wasn't working (makes waaay to much sense), so we had to deal with the pressure cooker classrooms. Teachers have been complaining, and the administration says, we'll get around to fixing it.....Yeah right, anyways, today, which is the official last day of school that hardly anyone shows up for, the air conditioninng gets fixed, and they're shutting it off tomorrow. Idiots, all of them. *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:43:12 -0400 From: JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: C.S. Lewis (off topic) Message-ID: <960611174312_554164696-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com> Since several people have mentioned reading or re-reading the Narnia books... When I read them in elementary school the first book was The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. The second book was Prince Caspian. But the editions in the bookstore today have The Magician's Nephew as Book One and tLtWatW as Book Two. What happened? Do publishers think we won't understand a universe unless we read about its creation first? If anyone remembers the original order (or has older books), I'd appreciate seeing it. Julia Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:02:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Science Fiction Book Club (fwd) Message-ID: <199606112202.AA19877-+AT+-freenet.durham.org> Jake writes: > From mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Mon Jun 10 15:35:56 1996 > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:35:21 +0100 > Errors-To: server-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Message-Id: <960610190709_102744.2515_GHT141-1-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> > Errors-To: lackey-owner-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Originator: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk > Sender: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Precedence: bulk > From: Jake <102744.2515-+AT+-CompuServe.COM> > To: ad074-+AT+-freenet.durham.org > Subject: Science Fiction Book Club > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > X-Comment: Mercedes Lackey Mailing List > > FYI: > > Sure, _Lord of Chaos_ (a.k.a. Passion of the Aes Sedai) won book of the year for > 1995 (boo!) but _White Gryphon_ was first-runner-up, and _Elvenblood_ was > second-runner-up! (Hooray!) > > In celebration of this, the Science Fiction book club recently (issue dated July > 1996) ran ALL the codes for the Misty Valdemar books. Here they are: > > Black Gryphon 031757 8.98 > White Gryphon 078279 10.98 > Silver Gryphon 116392 8.98 > ALL THREE 135327 24.98 > > Last Herald Mage Trilogy (3 in 1) 177568 14.98 > Vows and Honor Duology (2 in 1) 024398 8.98 > By The Sword 064634 10.98 > Queen's Own Trilogy (3 in 1) 057505 14.98 > ALL FOUR 135335 42.98 > > Winds of Fate 004978 9.98 > Winds of Change 004853 9.98 > Winds of Fury 017852 9.98 > ALL THREE 027672 24.98 > > Storm Warning 057067 10.98 > Storm Rising 106526 10.98 > BOTH 135343 19.98 > > You can buy all 12 books for $108.98 (135350) > > The Elvenbane 188441 10.98 > Elvenblood 101907 11.98 > BOTH 116178 19.98 > > If anyone is interested in joining the Science Fiction Book Club please drop me > a line! You get six selections (under $15) for a dollar and I get two free > books if I sign you up (weg). You've got to purchase four books in two years, > though. > > Stars Bright Thy Path (And Forever Guide Thee True), > > Jake <<102744.2515-+AT+-compuserve.com>> > > ASPCB Head (American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Books) > Champion of the Ladies in Green > Keeper of the Scrolls of Misty Humor > I am a member of the Science Fiction Book Club and the authors in the books aren't always the greatest. For the last two or three months all the books Mercedes Lackey has written out of the Valdemar series has been put in. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:18:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: 2-+AT+-freenet.durham.org Subject: Alberich/Prejudice/B\GScouts/The Phantom w\Companion! (fwd) Message-ID: <199606112218.AA20757-+AT+-freenet.durham.org> Rosario Holsen-Baker writes: > From mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Mon Jun 10 20:30:06 1996 > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 01:32:58 +0100 > Message-Id: > Errors-To: lackey-owner-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Reply-To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Originator: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk > Sender: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk > Precedence: bulk > From: Rosario Holsen-Baker > To: ad074-+AT+-freenet.durham.org > Subject: Alberich/Prejudice/B\GScouts/The Phantom w\Companion! > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > X-Comment: Mercedes Lackey Mailing List > > Cennydd wrote: > > Actually, Alberich would make an awesome librarian. Remember the scenes > > in Storm Warning, when he introduces Karal to the Library? You can tell > > he both loves books and is aware of the importance of the library > > sciences. > > He'd make a wonderful librarian, but I certainly wouldn't want to > be caught with my books overdue! ;) Seriously, I'd like to know a lot > more about him (and many others, but 'specially him). His childhood in > Karse, his reception in Valdemar (can't have been fun, him being from > Karse and all...kindof how I'd imagine a Russian in Congress during the > Cold War), his love life (hell, by the last time we see him the guy's in > his 40's at least, he's got to have some sort of love life), this implied > close friendship with Dirk (okay, maybe I'm reading a bit more into it, > but...), and all that stuff. If I remember correctly it said in one of the books I think Arrows of the Queen that heralds seldom make any type of bonds friendship mostly. Alberich seems to an exception to that though he has few close friends and then really only Dirk, Talia and Jerri. I would love to know more about what it was like since they only hinted about it in the Storm books. They hinted by showing how Karal felt when he was sent there and the type of reception that he was given. Could Alberichs have been much different. > > *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* > > Heather, Cennydd, Fireheart...I really wish I had something nice and > comforting to say. I don't, really. As part of my school's GLSB alliance, > I get to hear a lot of that, and more from my friends outside of school, > and it never fails to sicken me. So...before I get off into a rant about > how those kinds of people are WORTHLESS, BRAIN-DEAD, SICK ASSHOLES....big > hugs all around, guys. > HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG > > *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* > > Lady Kadessa wrote: > > ObMIsty: There are no Boy or Girl Scouts in Valdamar. :) > > And thank the Bright Lady for that (or Misty :)!!!!! <--ob# I've > never been in the Girl Scouts, but from what I hear I wouldn't want to. > Anyone care to play Devil's Advocate and defend them? > > *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* > You Know You've Been Reading Too Much Misty When (YKYBRTMMW): You > see The Phantom one day when school's just let out and you're really, > REALLY bored, and he's got a white horse and a wolf, and when they appear > to have a conversation at one point (no lie! This really happened! See > the movie if you don't believe me! :), all you can think of is Kyree and > Companion! > > |~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*LADY JAGUAR*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~| > | Leader of the Cat People * Lady in Green * LGMCB Conspirator * DHTBB Lobe | > | "I believe That if you knew just what these tears were for | > | They would just pour Like every drop of rain..." | > | --Tears for Fears "I Believe"-- | > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:54:17 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Hypatia/books/music Message-ID: <199606112155.RAA00748-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> > > Wasn't a librarian at the time IIRC a woman (named in the "Ship Who Won" > > the Misty/McCaffrey collab)? Killed by the Christians burning the books > > for daring to protect them? ok folx. p.12 of "The Ship Who Searched" "Yes,"she said,"I was named for the first and only female librarian of the Great Library at Alexandria on Terra. She was also the last librarian there." Hypatia Cade (Tia) also says the library was burned in the time of Constantine. (whenecer that was) __________________________________________________________ Only save 10 books? c'mon you people! you're torturous!well, I'll try: 1."The Silver Arm" by Jim Fitzpatrick 2."Faeries" by Brian Froud and Alan Lee 3"The Never-ending Story" by Michael Ende 4."Children of the Night" by Mercedes Lackey 5.'Queen's Own" by you know who 6."Bedlam's Bard" by you know who 7."Complete Nonsense Books" by Edward Lear 8."The Book of The Dragon" by Montse Saint 9."Story of the Irish Race" by Seumas MacManus 10.the Family Bible ack! that's not enough! but these would be some of the hardest to replace. Hmm, musical albums? can I take 10 tapes, and then 10 C.D.s? ok 10 albums: 1."Keeper of the Flame" by Phoenyx 2."Enya" by Enya 3."Shepherd Moons" by Enya 4."PastPresent" by Clannad 5. "Whaler" by Sophie B. Hawkins 6."Sweet Baby James" by James Taylor. 7."The Lost Boys" soundtrack 8."Dead Poet Society" soundtrack 9."Collected Works" by simon and Garfunkel 10."The Four Seasons" by Antonio Vivaldi (The version with Patrick Stewart reading the sonnets) gee, that was HARD! -Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean ________________________________________ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ________________________________________ ==\\ |8| |\ |8| __ o| |8| (__) |8| |__| |8|_|__| \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:05:46 -0700 From: hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: What books would YOU save? Message-ID: <199606112305.QAA18982-+AT+-sprynet.com> What books would I save if my house were on fire? That's an interesting question. I given it a bit of thought, and i think these are the 10 I'd save; 1,2&3. The Last Herald-Mage Trilogy 4. Interview With the Vampire 5. My autographed copy of the short story on Kyla's Journey (from The Quest of the Dream Warrior cassette.) 6. My Richard Bachman copy of Thinner (printed before everyone knew he was S. King, I beleive.) 7. A 1937 Hardback, Gone With The Wind, that's been in SpiritBlades family for a couple generations 8. My Book of Shadows The last two I wouldn't want to loose because they're both crammed full of old photos and assorted memoribelia, many little irreplaces pieces of my past. 9. My high school memory book 10. An Old Grateful Dead calendar book Airelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:58:31 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: List of list members Message-ID: <199606112200.SAA00760-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> I was wondering... ... how is the List of people on the mailing list coming along? who was in charge of that? I think I've submitted my bio about 5 times now to the list and to individuals. -Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean ________________________________________ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ________________________________________ ==\\ |8| |\ |8| __ o| |8| (__) |8| |__| |8|_|__| \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 19:01:52 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: thanks everyone. Message-ID: <199606112203.SAA00792-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> I want to thank everyone who either posted on-list or e-mailed private condolences. thanks for the hugs and prayers, everybody. The funeral is tomorrow, and I think I'm holding up ok. Once again, thank you all -Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean ________________________________________ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ________________________________________ ==\\ |8| |\ |8| __ o| |8| (__) |8| |__| |8|_|__| \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 19:26:12 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reesa!!!!!!/Fireheart/wrtng name in books Message-ID: <199606112227.SAA00906-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> On 11 Jun 96 Lady 'Reesa wrote: > ##### Lady 'Reesa ##### mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com##### > Won't you come, join, dance in my circle, > The voices will make your heart yearn, > To please, come, join, dance in my circle, > But know that you'll never return. > From _Dance In The Circle_, by Heather Alexander > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ahem! Reesa! what album is this one from??? pretty please? ___________________________________________________ Fireheart: I amvery sorry to hear about your family. I wish there was something I could do. I have the friend who's family also did not handle his coming out well. They kidnapped him from he and his lover's home, and took him to a mental institution. He is one of the sweetest most gentle people, and he was so very terrified. This is just to let you know you are not alone, and it is possible to survive. he has a homepage up telling his storry. the URL is: http://www.voicenet.com/~plummark/jrbear2.htm _____________________________________________________ On 10 Jun 96 Mick Prieur wrote: > Writing in books? I wouldn't dream of it. It makes my teeth hurt > to even contemplate it. The worst I've done (and it ouches) is to > put my name in the front cover of my books, so that people know who > to return the books to. Seems to work, too. Welcome to the list! What you need are bookplates, m'dear! ;) I get pretty book platees adn/or have my best friend do my name in pretty Calligraphy.(my handwriting is dreadful) I told you all I've come a long way since Jr. High. __________________________________________________________ -Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean ________________________________________ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ________________________________________ ==\\ |8| |\ |8| __ o| |8| (__) |8| |__| |8|_|__| \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 09:49:58 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid: PC/Reqs/lgb marriage/GGK/minorities/newbie Message-ID: <9606112349.AA10919-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> Cennyd wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Kerry Mealing wrote: > >>>On a pedantic note, women aren't minorities - before I get flamed, let > me hasten to add that as a group, they have many characteristics of > minorities (discrimination etc etc) but not the definitive one. :)<<< > > This isn't a flame, but women are a minority. Remember that there are > two meanings to the term "minority." One meaning is a statistical or > numerical minority and refers to a sub-group consisting of less than half > of the full group. By this definition, it is true that women are not a > minority. However, the other definition of "minority" is the > socio-political term. In this venue, a minority is a marginalized or > disadvantaged sub-group which has significantly less access to > institutional power than the main group. Such a group is a minority > because it is underepresented in the power structure of society. By this > definition, women are a minority in most societies. Certainly in the > US, Australia, the UK, and other modern societies, this is true. You're right, of course. I sit corrected - it was a bad day and I was in a thoroughly foul mood. I still tend to think that the second definition has a connotation of the first definition, at least in Australia - the words 'women' and 'minority' are not used together (rather, 'disadvantaged groups' etc). For that matter though, women generally are not perceived as being currently disadvantaged in Australia (yes there are places, such as the High Court Bench where the number of men dwarf the number of women, but arguably this is the result of a highly formalized situation where it takes some time for changes at the grass roots level to percolate upwards). That is, they have to be QC's (Queens Counsels) for x years and then judges on lower benches etc. Note that I don't deny that the problem still exists in some areas, or to some extent, but I think it's well on the way to being solved. Other places may differ of course. Cheers, Kerry. "The Devil, having nothing else to do, Went off to tempt My Lady Poltagrue. My Lady, tempted by a private whim, To his extreme annoyance, tempted him." -- Hilaire Belloc: 'On Lady Poltagrue, a Public Peril.' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:18:36 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Request for our beloved Listmistress... Message-ID: <960611211834_554324973-+AT+-emout14.mail.aol.com> I have this saved so to save Auntie Mel the trouble here goes: Auntie Mel's Rules of Thumb for Sensible Posting: 1) Trim quoted text. Trim headers to the minimum. We're looking for something along the lines of " said:" rather than six lines of quoted header with no content. Is all of what you're quoting still relevant? We want enough left to keep track of the discussion, not its entire history. BUT -- see 1a). 1a) Preserve attributions. Try, however, to keep track of who did say what. Being misquoted is annoying; being quoted as saying something you did not, more so. 2) Think before you post. I try to read through all of the list mail that has arrived before I post; especially on the weekends, if someone has a general question, the chances are extremely good that someone else will already have answered before I see it. It is obvious that with the delays caused by processing the mail, sending it out, etc., you can't guarantee that nobody will have answered a question before you, but if a couple of days have gone past, the chances aren't bad. 2a) Keep the fluff level down. People's mail systems vary, and many people receive the mailings as a digest. The latter group, in particular, cannot just delete individual messages, and I will _not_ tolerate people being driven from the group because they cannot keep up with the level of mail, if that level is being artificially inflated by fluff. I don't mind the occasional off-topic message, but if you're posting several such per day, consider yourself warned. (Alt.books.m-lackey, the Lackey newsgroup, is far fluff-heavier than this list, and this is most likely because it is (generally) easier to skip unwanted articles within news readers rather than mail readers. It is also the main reason why I read about two articles a day from the newsgroup, if that.) 2b) One-liners are a Bad Thing. If you feel that you have to respond to someone with a one-line comment, and that comment is not an answer to a question that has been asked, consider replying by mail directly to that person. (Comment: at the moment, because this is a _discussion_ list, the default is that, when one hits the 'Reply' button, the mail is directed to the list at large, rather than the sender of the message to which you are replying. If you do not know how to change this, if necessary, you should talk to your local support folks. 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I might log in over the weekend, but assuming that that will be the case is likely a Bad Idea. 4) Other things not to post: Almost anything that you have found online, unless it's obviously and specifically Lackey-related. _Especially_ if it says "Please post this to anywhere you can". Notable examples: - anything saying "Make Money Fast" - any mention of the Good Times virus (it doesn't exist) - any request for postcards/business cards/get well cards/ to be sent to a little boy who's dying of cancer (he didn't die; he's still alive, and he really, really doesn't want any more cards. Neither does his local Post Office, which is also my local office at home!) - anything about forthcoming legislation (this is an international list, and as such any legislation is likely to apply to no more than half of the people on the list) If you think that there should be an exception, mail the item concerned to me -- mel-+AT+-herald.co.uk -- and if I agree with you, I'll forward it to the list. But I'm an unreasonable bitch, as you probably already gathered by reading the rest of this post, so don't get your hopes up. Courtesy of: Lady Nightshadow aka Shady ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:15:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Science Fiction Book Club Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Jake wrote: > FYI: > > Sure, _Lord of Chaos_ (a.k.a. Passion of the Aes Sedai) Isn't that supposed to be a.k.a. The Green Ajah's Burning Desire ? ;) > won book of the year for > 1995 (boo!) but _White Gryphon_ was first-runner-up, and _Elvenblood_ was > second-runner-up! (Hooray!) > Um, yay for Misty, bu White Gryphon??? I don't know, Storm Rising was better than that. Elvenblood was okay, but The Elvenbane was much better. Wait a minute. Now that I think about it, _The Elvenbane_ was my first Misty book. I got it from the SFBC too. I didn't even realize who the author was until after I read LHM. Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "Sleep well, and dream of large women." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:27:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Book Murder One | What books would YOU save? Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > > 2. _Jumper_ by Steven Gould Yes, Yes, Yes!!!!! Everyone read this book!!!!! > 5. _Wildside_ Steven Gould And this one too!!!!! Lets see. Mine would be (in no real order): 10, 9, 8 ) LHM 7) Arrows trilogy (I've got that one in omnibus form) 6) Jumper 5) Wildside 4) Winds of Change 3) The Mirror of Her Dreams, by Stephen R. Donaldson 2) A Man Rides Through, by SRD (part 2 of same duology) 1) Diane Duane's Young Wizards series (first 3 parts in omnibus) Damn, that leaves Eddings, Jordan, and Rawn on the shelf! > Now, what about disks and music? Do they count as books? If they do, then > I have to revise this list. If it's just books, then I'm okay. > Lets see: 10) Wanderlust -- Heather Alexander 9) Heather Alexander...Live! 8) Magic, Moondust, & Melancholy 7) Automatic for the People -- REM 6) Erasure -- Erasure 5) Shadow Stalker -- Heather Alexander 4) Wild! -- Erasure 3) my tape with the songs I like from Oathbound and Oathbreakers, with the Cranberries on side 2 2) Serrated Edge -- Tempset 1) either Heralds, Harpers, & Havok or Freedom, Flight, & Fantasy Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "Sleep well, and dream of large women." ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 610 *********************************