MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 611 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Etiquette by Mat Timmerman 2) Re: Book Murder One | What books would YOU save? by Becky Cary 3) Re: Another new one! by "Kristin A. Ruhle" 4) Re: Throwing kids in water and other bizzare things by kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com (Herald Michal) 5) Braiding...braiding... by Lady Wintersong 6) lgb marriage by Mick Prieur 7) 10 Books To Save/HOT! by Lady Wintersong 8) Re: Good GGK books? by Ian Macdonald 9) Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) by Ian Macdonald 10) WWW site. by Ian Macdonald 11) Re: Books/music/etc by "Kimber Brumbaugh" 12) Re: Science Fiction Book Club by "Vrondi" 13) Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) by "Vrondi" 14) Re: List of list members by Ian Macdonald 15) Re: Reesa!!!!!!/Fireheart/wrtng name in books by MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US 16) Braid: minorities/sexism in Valdemar? by mmmaher-+AT+-netspace.net.au (Michelle Maher) 17) Re: 10 Books To Save/HOT! by "Kender" 18) re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) by reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> 19) Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) by Gyrfalcon 20) Re: question by Carolyn Taylor 21) Web Page/ Good Read? by Cheryl 22) Braid: Suction/Electrohate/Misty photo by Summer is icumen in! 23) Re: List of list members by Becky Anne Christensen 24) S&SIII, and used bookstores by Wildfire 25) Re: Good GGK books? by ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com 26) Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) by ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:33:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Etiquette Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jun 1996 Seranna-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 96-06-10 09:40:48 EDT > > >Since the influx of some fairly active newcomers, (and Lady knows how many > >lurkers).. I would like our beloved Auntie Mel to post her posting > >etiquette (sp?) guide. Tis about time for the repost anway. > > > Perhaps this etiquette guide should automatically be sent to any new > subscriber. So that any newcomer would read it before he/she ventured to > join in the communications. > Mel's been saying that she means to do this for a while. Hey MEL! I think that you should add your rules of thumb to the welcome message. > As a newcomer I am surprised to hear that there are rules of etiquette here. > I saw only a warm group involved in a long-running conversation that is at > times happy, sad, rambunctious, contentious, warm, intelligent, witty...but > always left you feeling like part of a community; sort of like an extended > family. There didn't seem to be any rules (oops, guidelines). > Oh, they're mostly just basic, simple things to keep problems from happening (mechanical, people leaving, etc). Stuff like, "Keep your sig to around 4 lines" (*ahem* Gyr *cough* :) ) , Don't post one-liners (poor Vanyel, the server that handles the list, doesn't like them), no messages announcing aggravating 'Net urban legends, quoting, etc. Simple stuff. It's not like Mel restricts what we say or do, just mostly technical stuff (other than really exessive, really off-topic stuff (*ahem* mage-duels* *cough*)) ;) . Mat Cat Person and Adept mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ "Sleep well, and dream of large women." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Becky Cary To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Book Murder One | What books would YOU save? Message-ID: Ouch. tough question indeed. Here they are, in no particular order: The Complete A.A. Milne (includes his poetry -- my father used to read that to me) Watership Down by Robert Adams Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card(my first "grown-up" SF, and autographed) LHM Dark is Rising omnibus by Susan Cooper Collected Works of Lewis Carroll The First Man in Rome by Colleen McCullough (recommended highly for any Latin students etc) The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks Ouch, that was hard. And the answer could well be different tomorrow. But that's my tentative ten. Becky -------------- Hey, let's give a big round of applause to what's-his-name, the maker of the vacuum cleaner. After all, if you think about it, who else in history has made more money off of something that sucks? Ok, _besides_ Aaron Spelling. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:20:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kristin A. Ruhle" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Another new one! Message-ID: <199606120320.AA24847-+AT+-waltz.rahul.net> > > > That must have been terrible for you to remember it so young. I was > terrified of water but my mother and grandmother never forced it. I > wanted to learn to swim soooo much. I finally took beginner's > swimming (three times) before I felt at home in the water. I now > love to swim and can swim any stroke and can even do tricks in the > water, but I still can't dive. > What's traumatizing depends on a kid's disposition, too..I was a very fearful child, and I'm told when I was too young to remember, some idiot swim instructor made me lie out on a diving board....later, I really hated to get water up my nose because I thought I was drowning. I didn't learn to swim until I was 12-13. I don't do a crawl stroke quite right cause I never quite got the hang of breathing but I have a good kick...my breast and side stroke is good...I don't want to dive/be thrown in the water either. I think the instinct to panic might still be in there deep. Even though I enjoy swimming now. Kristin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:03:08 -0700 (MST) From: kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com (Herald Michal) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Throwing kids in water and other bizzare things Message-ID: <199606120403.VAA27192-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com> Heyla! >I was thrown in the water at about 18 months of age under that thought. In fact, >that's my very first memory and it isn't a pleasant one. I disinctly remember my >Mom standing outside the pool and throwing me in at my maternal Grandmother who >was inside the pool. I remember swallowing water and trying to get to my >Grandmom, who had a huge grin on her face BTW, if anyone's interested, I believe the vikings taught there children to swim by throwing them in the ocean. Of course, IIRC, a fair number of them died this way - but the rest learned to swim real quick. Oh, on another miscellaneous unrelated odd-cultural-thing-people-do-to-their-children, did anyone of you know that Mongol children learn to ride before they learn to walk. Their parents strap them to the back of a nummie-num as soon at a couple months of age, and within a remarkably short time they're riding like its second nature. Ummm, gee, this is off topic. I really need an... ObMisty: There are no vikings on Velgarth. Or Mongols. :( OTOH, I think the Shin'a'in were based to a certain extent on the Mongols - at least, they're very similar in some respects. "Remember your futile attack on the Great Lord of the Dark! Remember! Remeber his counterstroke! Even now th hundred companions are tearing the world apart, and every day a hundred men more join them." - Ishamael, in the old tongue, "Betrayer of Hope" *************************************************** Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr VP of the VEVUWEC and member of the DMFs *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 06:45:40 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Braiding...braiding... Message-ID: <9606120545.AA29753-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Mat Timmerman said: >It's (Rescue Run) also been published again since then. In 1993, she put out a >few short stories under the name _The Chronicles of Pern: First Fall_. >It has 5 stories - "The Survey: P.E.R.N.^c", "The Dolphins' Bell", >"The Ford of Red Hanrahan", "The Second Weyr", and "Rescue Run"". Oh, I see! I've seen the Chronicles of Pern but never connected it to Rescue Run. Thanks! _______________________________________________________________________________ Btw, what does (tm) and mean? _____________________________________________________________________________ Dass said: >Uhm. At risk of sounding like the "newbie" I am... >> >> What do IIRC and TMIW stand for? IIRC stands for If I Recall (Remember) Correctly and TMIW stands for The Men In White. TMIW are Piers Anthony fanatics and abduct listmembers and pun them to death. (sortof) _______________________________________________________________________________ My Eudora programme works fine now. My dad sat in front of it and fiddled with it and it responded! What can I say, electrical appliances hate me. ______________________________________________________________________________ I asked this question some time ago but nobody responded. Has anyone seen wjat Misty looks like? Zhai'helleva/Zha'hai'allav'a & %"And ye shall know the truth, and the Lady Wintersong and Elayne (bondbird) & truth shall make you free." An Honourable Lady In Green and a snowy % --- Jesus Christ (John 8:32) white owl & ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 02:04:47 -0400 From: Mick Prieur To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: lgb marriage Message-ID: <199606120604.CAA13661-+AT+-mur.odyssey.on.ca> Cennydd wrote: > >On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Mick Prieur wrote: > Actually, he's my fiance. But just try to tell that to you computer and see if it believes you. Then I said: >>>>Just thought I'd mention that I agree with the _it's none of your business >who I chose to date_ line that's going on here. One of my close, female, >straight friends has recently married a _gay_ (not bi) man so they can >finally realize their dream of having kids together.<<< > And he replied: >Oh dear, now I am having severe cogdiss. Part of me says "More power to >'em!" and part of me says "They are just reinforcing the stereotype that >marriage is about procreation!" I also can't help but think that the >woman is in for some hard times down the line. I can witness to the fact >that it is really hard to be in a long-term relationship with someone you >like and find attractive (in the abstract) without ending up wanting more >than a Platonic friendship. Been there, done that. Kinda messy. > And here I go again: Okay, so there's more to it than that. They hadn't originally planned to actually get married, but rather to live together until the kids were old enough to understand, and then work from there. They were planning on a permanent relationship with each other anyway, so I wouldn't have been surprised if they stayed together, albeit seeing other people (too bad they're attracted to the same kind of man, I can't see them finding one to share - that would definitely be too messy). However, the armed forces stepped into the plan and messed it up by informing him that they don't recognize commonlaw relationships as such, so they would have to find their own accomodations if they wanted to live together. After much soul-searching, they agreed to marry. And, as was said in one of the toasts at the wedding, "They are two of the people the most in love that I've ever seen." They've been as good as married for several years. They're just not in lust. And I agree that they are probably in for problems along the way. Several of us here were kind of leery about the whole thing, but if that's what they want to do.... Time to shaddup now Nora PS - Singlish? Cool, another language for me to learn! (and probably butcher the pronunciation of, but I try) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:40:29 +0100 From: Lady Wintersong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: 10 Books To Save/HOT! Message-ID: <9606121040.AA06537-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> What with all the talk about fire, I had to add my 2 cent worth. If there really was a fire at my house, I would probably be so unlucky that I would not be home!!! Then how would I be able to save _1_ book, let alone 10, 20, 100......? Maybe I should move my book collection to my best friend's place, but then what if a fire broke out there? ____________________________________________________________________________ Lady 'Reesa, how hot is it where you are living? I want to compare it to what we call sweltering heat here. :) Do give it in Celcius, 'cos I don't know Farenheit (sp?). _______________________________________________________________________________ Cennyd said:>***Me does a "happy hamster hop" Cennyd, do hamsters hop? I didn't know that! ____________________________________________________________________________ ____Lady Becky said: >>She mentioned (and I agree) that if you have a good used book, then why would >>you sell it to a used bookstore? Well, the used bookstores I go to stock both books that were sold to them and also new books that they buy from suppliers and sell at a reduced rate. Therefore, they have a lot of books that are currently in print. Zhai'helleva/Zha'hai'allav'a & %"And ye shall know the truth, and the Lady Wintersong and Elayne (bondbird) & truth shall make you free." An Honourable Lady In Green and a snowy % --- Jesus Christ (John 8:32) white owl & ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:38:39 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Macdonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Good GGK books? Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jun 1996 ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > Ok, Shady, > GGK wrote 6 books. > 1. The Summer Tree > 2. The Wandering Fire > 3. The Darkest Road > Those three are the Fionavar Tapestry, and they really are excellent, but > just try the first one, and see if you like it. Me, I've read them alot, so > I read them usually middle, last, first. Or last, middle, first. These made > me teary, but not cry, I don't cry at books easily. Actually, only the last > two on the list made me cry at all, the last one made me hysterical, it's > wonderful. If you cry easily, Cenydd can tell you which will. (sorry, > Cennydd, I avoid crying like the plague, it makes my eyes itchy and my head > hurt, but I remember you saying that GGK books got to you, so I figured > you're a good choice.) Next. I read these books for english in school. I think I am going to have to reread them. I remember them being very powerfull. I really like the analogy of the tapistry of life and evil is the unraveller. If you don;t know what I am on about sorry (go read them). I think the most emotional part in the books for me was when the lost child joined the hunt. Sorry to go on. this should really have been a personal email. Bye < all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:42:44 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Macdonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jun 1996 JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > Since several people have mentioned reading or re-reading the Narnia books... > > When I read them in elementary school the first book was The Lion, the Witch, > and the Wardrobe. The second book was Prince Caspian. But the editions in > the bookstore today have The Magician's Nephew as Book One and tLtWatW as > Book Two. What happened? Do publishers think we won't understand a universe > unless we read about its creation first? If anyone remembers the original > order (or has older books), I'd appreciate seeing it. I think the Magician Nephew was written after tLtWaTw but was set before tLtWaTL. I think Prince Caspian follows on after tLtwatw. Ooo this is scary I am remembering things I read years ago. Ian < all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:48:36 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Macdonald To: Herald mailing list Subject: WWW site. Message-ID: Since my exams are going to over in the next 4 hours. I should have a some more time to play with the lackey web pages. If you would have any suggestions on what should be added to them, or if you would like to be held responsible for one of the sections in the pages then please mail me. http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ism/lackey/ or http://marko.dorm.auburn.edu/~exodus/lackey/ thaaanks Ian < all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jun 1996 07:43:09 -0400 From: "Kimber Brumbaugh" To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald." Subject: Re: Books/music/etc Message-ID: ------------------------------ Date: 6/12/96 7:13 AM To: Brumbaugh, Kimber From: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald. I don't think I could really limit myself to only 10 books from my collection, but I think if I had to save anything out of my apartment if it burned, I would save my notebooks first. I have stories and letters and journal entries in those from many years back, and while I'd miss my books, I could _never_ replace what's in those! Now, once I got those out I would be willing to grab my Misty, McCaffry, Huff, Sharon Green, etc. collections... *grin* I can't really afford to replace those anyway. If the fire waited until right before I move, then it would be real easy to save lots of stuff cause a lot of it's already in boxes sitting by the sliding glass door... that way I could save it all with no decisions necessary :) Kimber kimber_brumbaugh-+AT+-library.lib.ncsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:14:44 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Science Fiction Book Club Message-ID: <199606121117.HAA02257-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> On 12 Jun 96 Mat Timmerman wrote: I just finished "White Gryphon", and I don't think it's as bad you all said it was. It definitely was _not_ one of her best, though. It seemed kind of like it was meant for a juvenile audience. I dunno, oh, well, I got it from the sci-fi book club for, like 8 or 9 dollars. I wouldn't have wanted to pay the full twenty some dollar price! Anyone else noticed book prices have gone up this year? THey're wanting 8, 9, even up to 14$ for some paperbacks now. I'd rather add a couple bucks and have the hardback -Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean ________________________________________ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ________________________________________ ==\\ |8| |\ |8| __ o| |8| (__) |8| |__| |8|_|__| \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:19:02 +0000 From: "Vrondi" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) Message-ID: <199606121120.HAA02261-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu> On 12 Jun 96 JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > When I read them in elementary school the first book was The Lion, the Witch, > and the Wardrobe. The second book was Prince Caspian. But the editions in > the bookstore today have The Magician's Nephew as Book One and tLtWatW as > Book Two. What happened? Do publishers think we won't understand a universe > unless we read about its creation first? If anyone remembers the original > order (or has older books), I'd appreciate seeing it. the order the sets used to come in are the order they were written in. Lion Witch and the Warbdrobe were written first. Now they're putting them in order according to Narnia's chronology, and it's irritating me something awful -Vrondi a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean ________________________________________ http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/ ________________________________________ ==\\ |8| |\ |8| __ o| |8| (__) |8| |__| |8|_|__| \____/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:40:54 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Macdonald To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: List of list members Message-ID: tOn Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Vrondi wrote: > I was wondering... ... how is the List of people on the mailing list > coming along? who was in charge of that? I think I've submitted my > bio about 5 times now to the list and to individuals. > -Vrondi try the web version http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ism/lackey/ theres a link in there to it In the near future you should be able to get a copy by email, but ihaven't had time to set it up yet Ian < all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:27:46 -0600 (CST) From: MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reesa!!!!!!/Fireheart/wrtng name in books Message-ID: <01I5TCA5G5Y00020KW-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US> I just want to take an oppurtunity to thank you all for being so welcoming and friendly. I am doing fine with my 'OUTing' since I moved in with my aunt who has known for almost a year.My family may have given up on me... but I just think it's their loss. And now... before I stop... let me pass out hugs to all of you. {HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG}{HUG} Thank you all again Fireheart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:49:08 +1000 (EST) From: mmmaher-+AT+-netspace.net.au (Michelle Maher) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Braid: minorities/sexism in Valdemar? Message-ID: <199606121349.XAA02288-+AT+-tornado.netspace.net.au> Kerry said >women generally are not perceived as being >currently disadvantaged in Australia (yes there are places, such as the >High Court Bench where the number of men dwarf the number of women, but >arguably this is the result of a highly formalized situation where it >takes some time for changes at the grass roots level to percolate upwards). >That is, they have to be QC's (Queens Counsels) for x years and then judges >on lower benches etc. >Note that I don't deny that the problem still exists in some areas, or to >some extent, but I think it's well on the way to being solved. Other >places may differ of course. > Well, as an Australian woman I can say that we have come a long way, if my mother's tales are true, and yet we do still have a way to go. To illustrate this I'll just convey a quick story of what happened to me only three weeks ago. I was at a conference which was attended mostly by Local Government (councillors and engineers mostly) and some State Government Department reps - of the 200 about 30 were women. There was also a Partners program which took in all the tourist areas, for those who wished to go along with their other (all women partners by the way). At a function on the last night I was asked, quite kindly, if I had enjoyed the days excursion to the Art Gallery and was my husband in Local Government (I'm a consultant by the way). The conversation went nowhere after that as he ignored me after I did tell him who I was. I was also a bit miffed as I had just delivered an half hour presentation to the conference that very day (hmmm - I must have been really memorable!!!) Yes we have a way to go but at least it's sometimes paved with humour (my reaction was quite humorous by the way - things can change slowly sometimes) Thinking about this - and reading Arrows of the Queen again - the Holderkin were very sexist but my feeling is that was the exception as when Talia became a Herald she was appreciated for who she is. However - on reflection of my first question - was it the Heralds who were the exception (as, IMHO, I feel that Valdemar is quite a medieaval society in many ways)? 'Chelle Michelle Maher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:27:45 +0000 From: "Kender" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 10 Books To Save/HOT! Message-ID: Lady Wintersong was screaming something about 10 Books To Save/HOT!.... > What with all the talk about fire, I had to add my 2 cent worth. If there > really was a fire at my house, I would probably be so unlucky that I would > not be home!!! Then how would I be able to save _1_ book, let alone 10, 20, > 100......? Maybe I should move my book collection to my best friend's place, > but then what if a fire broke out there? What you do, is go and buy a fire-proof safe.. a BIG one.. maybe a vault.. :) *this from someone who's pondered it...* :) I'll throw in my top 10 books to save now.. just to make this not look like a 1-line de-lurking message. :) 1-3 Last Herald-Mage 4 Born to Run 5 Knight of Ghosts and Shadows 6 Summoned to Tourney 7 Oathbound 8 Oathbreakers 9 By the Sword 10 Belgarath the Sorceror by David Eddings Hrmm... Boy, have *I* become the Misty-fan over the past year. :) -Kender --------- Kendall S. Jung - http://shoga.wwa.com/~kender World Wide Access Technical Support Staff Work: (312)803-1997 Fax:(312)803-9923 ==================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:54:58 +0100 (BST) From: reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) Message-ID: <199606121454.PAA04336-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk> >Since several people have mentioned reading or re-reading the Narnia books... > >When I read them in elementary school the first book was The Lion, the Witch, >and the Wardrobe. The second book was Prince Caspian. But the editions in >the bookstore today have The Magician's Nephew as Book One and tLtWatW as >Book Two. What happened? Do publishers think we won't understand a universe >unless we read about its creation first? If anyone remembers the original >order (or has older books), I'd appreciate seeing it. > >Julia Lynn IIRC the writing order is: Lion, Witch + Wardrobe; Prince Caspian; Dawn Treader; Horse and Boy; Silver Chair; Magicians Nephew; Last Battle. This is only approx cos I'm at work, my books are at home. Horse may well be later than Magician. Ailsa. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:58:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jun 1996 JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com wrote: > unless we read about its creation first? If anyone remembers the original > order (or has older books), I'd appreciate seeing it. They were, in order (IIRC) 1) The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. 2) Prince Caspian 3) The Voyage of the Dawn Treader 4) The Silver Chair 5) A Horse and his Boy 6) The Magician's Nephew 7) The Last Battle Of course chronogically they went like this. The Magician's Nephew The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe <--- A Horse and his Boy (During their reign) Prince Caspian The Voyage of the Dawn Treader The Silver Chair The Last Battle Fair winds and skies, --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:46 PDT From: Carolyn Taylor To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk, ctaylor-+AT+-bmi.net Subject: Re: question Message-ID: At 10:58 AM 6/12/96 +0100, Soljan-+AT+-aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 96-06-11 09:40:33 EDT, you write: > >>Can you use a grandma? >> >>Carolyn >> >> > >Of course! We welcone anyone, young and old. You probably wouldn't find a >significant other, but you'd have lots of friends. As a teen who loves her >grandparents, I'm sure everyone would love to have you. Send in your basic >info, name, age(if you don't mind) and location. :) > >Lady Silvermoon > >Thank you Iguess I should have explained more, though. I have a very nice significant other that I've had for over thirty years, but I thought maybe I could provide an ear for listening and a shoulder for tears. I'm also a pretty good cook. Carolyn Taylor, 64, Dayton, Wa. Carolyn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:20:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Cheryl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Web Page/ Good Read? Message-ID: <199606121620.KAA08621-+AT+-agt.net> Unfortunately this is not about any Mercedes Lackey pages. I have put up my own web page on which has serveral stories that has come out of the PBEM (Play by E-Mail) game I am running. I would be very much interested in what the list thought of the stories. Especially HOMECOMING, I mean what would you do if you were Jonathan? The address is http://www.agt.net/public/clas/champ.htm I know this is WAY off topic. But since some of the discussion here has prompted some of the plot/subplot lines. And you guys are the most intelligent conversationists on the three lists I am on, I would really like your opinion. Warning: The stories are based in a superhero genre. And in the near future there will be some mature content. Thanks. ObM: How come no one has pick Dirk as a likely canidate to die. Is it because little mention has been made about him? (I have missed some messages so I am sorry if it has been mentioned. Cheryl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:22:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Summer is icumen in! To: Misty Lackey List Subject: Braid: Suction/Electrohate/Misty photo Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: BOQ>>>Subject: Re: Girl Scouts >>>Ooooh, I like that! Actually, to be perfectly nit picky, and throw out a useless trivia fact: NOTHING SUCKS!<<< Hmmm. You haven't seen "Muriel's Wedding" have you? =) >>>It's impossible for anything to suck, it's all pushed. It's all because of the little gas atoms............<<< While it may be the case that suction is caused by external air pressure pushing molecules (there is not such thing as a "gas atom") into an area with a lower air pressure, that doesn't mean that suction doesn't exist. It just defines what suction is. A vacuum cleaner does suck. It is just that suction does not, as is popularly believed, involve pulling force. -----EOM On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Lady Wintersong wrote BOQ>>>Subject: Braiding...braiding... >>>My Eudora programme works fine now. My dad sat in front of it and fiddled with it and it responded! What can I say, electrical appliances hate me. <<< Have you tried dancing thrice widdershins about it? That usually works for me. =) >>>I asked this question some time ago but nobody responded. Has anyone seen wjat Misty looks like?<<< There is a photo (with some obvious airbrushing) in at least one of her paperbacks (the exact title escapes me), and I think there are some other photos on her hard-back books. -----EOM May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Mage of the Green Silences. Quand tu entendras le vent dans la vallee, Que tu verras l'aigle en liberte, Que tu sentiras le printemps venir en toi, Ce sera moi, ce sera moi. Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: List of list members Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Vrondi wrote: > I was wondering... ... how is the List of people on the mailing list > coming along? who was in charge of that? I think I've submitted my > bio about 5 times now to the list and to individuals. > -Vrondi > a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole > a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean Well, it should be completely updated and recent at the end of today, this is my first day of summer vacation!!!!! Yipeee! So much time to actually get things done, it's wonderful! There are a couple other people with lists going to, but I have the list homepage. I think. Oh isn't it wonderful not to have to think? :) :) :) :) :) :) *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Wildfire To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: S&SIII, and used bookstores Message-ID: Heyla all! Question: *is* Sword and Sorceress III the one that's out-of-print or hard to find or whatever? I ask 'cos I found 2 copies yesterday at a used bookstore here in Rochester...it was my first attempt to find this book, and it didn't seem so very difficult ... hope I didn't get the wrong one... Speaking of used bookstores, aren't they just *wonderful* things?! I just LOVE "diving" into one of these, especially for the first time - feels kinda like treasure-hunting, y'know... Wasn't it Lady 'Reesa who said that one rarely finds any Misty books at used bookstores? Well, the one I went to yesterday, there was the entire LHM trilogy (!!!) besides the 2 S&SIII books, plus Oathbreakers, and an extra copy of MPromise. Felt in that moment that the dingy little store had become the Havens! :-) I pounced on the trilogy, of course (who'd have thought someone'd actually dislike these books enough to sell them?! Not that I was complaining :) ) even though I already have used copies of the trilogy... Wind to thy wings, Wildfire, in utter bliss at the moment... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:03:44 -0400 From: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: Good GGK books? Message-ID: <960612140344_215873373-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com> I remember being teary for Jennifer at the end of the first book, but I cried for her son at the third. And for Kevin, who I wanted to marry. And likewise Prince Diarmuid. I loved the Fionavar Tapestry, but the Dalrei were the absolute coolest horsemen I'd ever seen, including the Shin'a'in. Lady Thess ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:03:36 -0400 From: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Cc: ThessaIy-+AT+-aol.com Subject: Re: C.S. Lewis (off topic) Message-ID: <960612140336_215873275-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com> Ok, the reason they changed it is because The Magician's Nephew comes first in the HISTORY, if not in order, and The Horse And His Boy comes DURING the tenure of the Pevensie kids as kings and queens of Narnia. Personally, I prefer the old order. 1) The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe 2) Prince Caspian 3) Voyage of the Dawn Treader 4) The Silver Chair 5) The Horse and His Boy 6) The Magician's Nephew 7) The Last Battle 5 and 6 may be reversed, I'm doing this from memory, all my books are at my mother's house--wait, all my Narnia books, not all my books. Does this help? Lady Thess, who wanted to live in Narnia before she found out 10 years later that it was a Christian metaphor, and doesn't care and STILL wants to live there. ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 611 *********************************