MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 626 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Lost knowledge. by Gyrfalcon 2) Re: Of sheep and cows... :) by Gyrfalcon 3) IMPORTANT by "Ian Macdonald (CS)" 4) Re: Naming of gods, READ THIS by David Snyder 5) Re: New to group with a bunch of replies by kadessa-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Leah Postrech) 6) Re: Of sheep and cows... :) by "Perkins,Cheryl;=7001696" 7) Re: Of sheep and cows... :) by "Diana L. Heald" 8) Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 625 by Barbara G Jacob-Mcdowell 9) Re: Vkandis/Kalendra by David Snyder 10) Re: The Naming of Gods... by David Snyder 11) Birth control/Wet Wings/Parenting/Weather by JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com 12) Newbie Alert by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 13) ANYBODY HELP by ARMSTRJO-+AT+-ZIAVMS.ENMU.EDU 14) Re: Bringing up children by Becky Anne Christensen 15) Taxes by The Suck Zone 16) Re: Bible by Becky Anne Christensen 17) Taxes by Chen Chen 18) Re: Of sheep and cows... :) by Becky Anne Christensen 19) Re: ANYBODY HELP by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 20) Re: Baaaaah! by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com 21) Re: Lost knowledge. by Chen Chen 22) Re: Bible by David Tiffany 23) Re: Baaaaah! by Sarah Worley 24) Re: Bible by Becky Cary 25) Re: Bible by kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com (Herald Michal) 26) Re: Bible by Becky Anne Christensen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Lost knowledge. Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, David Tiffany wrote: > Just to play Devil's Advocate here-But couldn't the oh-so-powerful Vanyel > spirt have set up a spell to bring potential mages to him in > Sorrows so that he could train them instead of playing games with peoples > minds? Well, he might have been able to... But think first of what that kind of spell would take to do. Power is limited, he'd have to set up something like the Vrondi in order to find his potential mages, make sure they were properly chosen (That means having the right stuff for the job) then get them all to do their internship on one of the Sorrows circuits. After which he would then need to drop everything to take on a young, frightened (He is a ghost after all), budding mage, and teach them. Not to mention it takes several long months/years to reach full potential. And there is the fact that Van wanted the Heralds to achieve their full potential. First rate Heralds instead of Second rate Herald-Mages. So what would he have to do? 1) Set up another bribe for the Vrondi (or another critter) to locate the potential mages. 2) Then rig things so that they are forced to go North on circuit. 3) Then keep them there while they should be tending the area around their circuit. 4) Reveal himself to them and convince them that they need to have the Gift trained. 5) Drop all of His duties (He is also sworn to do what he is doing by the goddess) to teach them. Teaching is a very singular activity. 6) Give up on his goal of having Heralds using their Gifts to the fullest potential. Instead of just being Second stringers to the mages. As it was, he arranged for the most magical threats to be neutralized before becoming a problem and then taking care of the hottest "unknown" trouble spot. Sorrows. Fair winds and skies, --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Gyrfalcon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Of sheep and cows... :) Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > By The Way people, taxes are due, and it doesn't matter what > country you live in. I am Queen of Everything, so you still > owe. I like chocolate. And sheep... > > Oops, I forgot, I wasn't going to mention them again. Taxes?! We don't need no Steenkin Taxes! Ha! This list is an anarchy! Taxes are against the rules... (Wait a minute.... There's something wrong with that statement... Oh well.) Fine. Taxes it is. One Chocolate covered coconut! And another, Three more! Now how did that sheep get in there? --Gyrfalcon =======================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu=================== Magic still exists. We have only to reach out and touch it, it is a part of the very fabric of the world. When our belief of magic completely dies this universe shall die. Because that magic; Hope, Dreams, Love, Beauty, Wonder, Belief, and Discovery are what make us a people. They are all part of a great Art whose workings are still a mystery but whose applications can be seen every day. If we ever lose the Art mankind shall not last the day. Let the magic that is in us roam free in our work, play, in each other, and most of all in ourselves. Let it roam free or it will die. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:49:10 +0000 (GMT) From: "Ian Macdonald (CS)" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: IMPORTANT Message-ID: I am sorry to have to remind people, I am one of the poor people who has to pay for local calls. So please cut down on the quoted messages. One paragraph normally gives enougth background for you own comments Signatures should be 4 lines at a maximum. Sorry to have to say this time is money, epecially since I don't have a job for the summer yet. Ian < all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:19:14 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Naming of gods, READ THIS Message-ID: <199606181819.OAA00267-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 04:17 AM 6/18/96 +0100, you wrote: >Oh, come now Lady Thessaly, do play fair. What about every woman's woman >and every man's man? Hmmm? >Becky ************* OOOOOPS!!!!!! I'm so sorry, I was just thinking of Julius Ceasar, I forgot to include those the other half of the female half. (Just for your info, Becky, every man's woman MEANS every man's man. It's a way of saying shaych that I picked up from I, Claudius.) But then again, it's difficult to proclaim a man a woman's woman, without breaking into either Monty Python and the Life of Brian: "I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta." "A woman?!" "But why Stan?" "I want to have babies." "You want to have BABIES???!!!" "It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them." "But you can't HAVE babies." "Don't you opress me." "I'm not opressin' you, Stan. You haven't got a womb. Where's the fetus gonna gestate? What are you gonna keep it in, a box?" OR straight out of the Blues Brothers, "Sometimes it's hard to be a woman. Giving all your love to just one man." Lady Thess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:49:23 -0700 From: kadessa-+AT+-ix.netcom.com (Leah Postrech) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: New to group with a bunch of replies Message-ID: <199606181949.MAA19330-+AT+-dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> > Does anyone have any idea why the gods Vkandris and Kalendra >broke up? >amy Oh goody!! Someone else who thinks that they used to work together!! I don't think they really 'broke up', I think it was more that maybe that Vkandis started working more with the Karsites,(and then the people just kind of pushed Kalendra (?) out of the picture), and She started working more with the Shin'a'in. Well, just MHO, but it makes some sense, doesn't it? Lady 'Dessa... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:25:01 +0000 From: "Perkins,Cheryl;=7001696" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Of sheep and cows... :) Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Gyrfalcon wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > > > By The Way people, taxes are due, and it doesn't matter what > > country you live in. I am Queen of Everything, so you still > > owe. I like chocolate. And sheep... > > > > Oops, I forgot, I wasn't going to mention them again. > > Taxes?! We don't need no Steenkin Taxes! > > Ha! This list is an anarchy! Taxes are against the rules... (Wait a > minute.... There's something wrong with that statement... Oh well.) > > Fine. Taxes it is. > > One Chocolate covered coconut! And another, > > Three more! > > Now how did that sheep get in there? > > --Gyrfalcon > Taxes pay for all those things you'd rather not have. Prisons, medical care (are you American? Skip the medical care.) Fixing holes in the highway. Cheryl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:24:10 EST From: "Diana L. Heald" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Of sheep and cows... :) Message-ID: <19E8E9B38A4-+AT+-ais.syr.edu> On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > By The Way people, taxes are due, and it doesn't matter what > country you live in. I am Queen of Everything, so you still > owe. I like chocolate. And sheep... > > Oops, I forgot, I wasn't going to mention them again. I will give you a chocolate Great Pyrenees to watch over your chocolate sheep. Diana *********************************************************** Diana L. Heald Syracuse University Email: dlheald-+AT+-ais.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:38:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbara G Jacob-Mcdowell To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: MERCEDES-LACKEY digest 625 Message-ID: About the sheep stuff: True story Emma Christian (who is from the Isle of Man, at 23 already an international authority on its music and folklore) told me: Manx farmers go out after a snowstorm with long poles, and thrust them down through the snow. If they bounce, the farmers know that the poles has struck a (buried) sheep's (wooly) back, and dig them out. She said that she hadn't believed that snow could get that deep before her tour last year took her to Minnesota..... Someone mentioned using old refrigerators as (cheap) safes in case of fire. Um, if you plan to do that, don't have the current going, or anything edible inside.... Case in point: when my first husband's grandfather died unexpectedly in the middle of a cold spell in '81, the water pipes in our kitchen had frozen the day before. (This was in the 12-room house that we were restoring, that was barely inhabitable; the original kitchen had been in the basement, the normal thing for that sort of house when it was built in 1884, a time when most middle-class households had at least one or two domestic servants.) In the 1930s, they had added on a jerry-built two-story addition, which sagged so that the lower end of the kitchen was about a foot lower than the upper. And they lined the walls and ceiling in that molded tin stuff you see on old, high ceilings. There was never any heat in that kitchen, except for the 1924 gas stove...and the hot water pipe. Anyway, this was my first experience with frozen pipes, and the Frog Prince said, "Turn on the faucet and leave it on." So I did, and we forgot about it thanks to the news, during the day, of his grandfather's death. This was a part of Barra's Live-in Soap Opera, so of course Geroge was out of town on business, and his mother, who was an only child and divorced, was post-op from a hysterectomy and very ill with an infection, and he had been a widower, so I was trying to deal with arranging the funeral. Needless to say, I was very busy....at the other end of the city. Due to circumstances I will not gross you out with, the funeral director said that we could not keep the body for the usual 2 days of viewing before the funeral, just one evening, then the funeral. (I was also very sick with bronchitis and a sinus infection) It was so cold the day of the funeral that they could not have a graveside ceremony--the ground was too hard to dig. So after a brief service at the cemetary chapel, we went back to his mom's house for the wake (they were Irish), and then George insisted that I go to a doctor's appointment I had near our place; my friend Betsy, a confirmed suburbanite, drove me. We came out of the doc's, and I said to her, "Do you mind if I stop at home for a few minutes? I want to change clothes and get an overnight bag for us; we're going to stay with his mom tonight." As soon as we came in the front door, I heard water running. "Oh, good, the pipe thawed!" (No, I was not thinking clearly...) We got as far as the kitchen door and stood staring. The pipe had burst, and boiling hot water (the drain had also frozen) was cascading over the edge of the sink and across the floor....it was several inches deep in the lower edge of the kitchen. What's more, the steam from the water, when it hit the icy cold walls and ceiling, was condensing and IT WAS RAINING INSIDE THE KITCHEN. For the next three weeks, we would get up, dress, leave for work, and grab breakfast on the way. I'd get home at 4:30, and grade papers in the living room 'til the F.P. arrived to pick me up and take me out to his mom's, where I would fix us supper and then we would work on packing up and cleaning up his grandpa's place until midnight and then come home, fall into bed, etc. Weekends were spent at her place and his. Sooooo, the fourth Saturday morning, I go into the kitchen, open the refrigerator door, and stare at an interior completely coated in a blue-green goop. Slammed the door and put my back against it....we had to throw out the whole thing. This was of course the result of its shorting out in the rainstorm.... And some people wonder why I will not watch soap operas! OB MIsty: Do any of the groups there have particular burial customs? I can't recall if there is anything about cremation or embalming by professionals. --Barra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:14:02 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Vkandis/Kalendra Message-ID: <199606182214.SAA02778-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 08:58 PM 6/18/96 +0100, you wrote: >> Does anyone have any idea why the gods Vkandris and Kalendra >>broke up? ******************** I don't agree. I don't think that Vkandis ever had anything to do with Kal'enal. If you check out the song lyrics at the back of Vows and Honor, you'll see that the Shin'a'in Goddess has four aspects, each with a complementary male aspect (Rover, Guardian, Hunter, and Guide) which has nothing to do with Vkandis Sunlord. I think that Karse just got overly patriarchal and let Vkandis's Consort/Counterpart go to wherever it is gods go to when they're not believed in anymore. Lady Thess P.S. Where'd you guys come up with Kalendra, anyway, I don't remember ever seeing it, I want textevd!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:13:55 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: The Naming of Gods... Message-ID: <199606182213.SAA02775-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 04:08 PM 6/18/96 +0100, you wrote: >(BTW, Thess... can I be God of New homes... seeing as I've had 3 in the past month) ;-) > Fireheart >Le Morgan >417 Avery >Dyersburg, TN 38024 **************************** The Naming of Gods is a difficult matter. It isn't just one of your holiday games. You may think at first I'm as mad as a Hatter When I tell you a God must have Three different Names. Never mind this, let's get to the good stuff! First of all, since Trouble asked first. Trouble, with all the ceremony I can muster in my little black heart, I now name you..crap, what's with the computer..in light of my Self-proclaimed...OW, mosquitos, I hate mosquitos..authority, Goddess of....why is my chair wobbling and creaking...Trkouble! Rise up and rid my home of these troublesome bugs, take them to your bosom, and...(SWAT. There goes one.) use them to curse your enemies with. Oh, Troubling one, we bow before you and send you a tithe of leftover wool dipped in chocolate, along with a bowl of Golden Froot Loops, one of the buttons off of my Remote Control--just the Pause button--and some tofu that you may remove the trouble from our lives and send it to the truly worthy. Fireheart, I dub thee God of New Homes, and send you an everlasting housewarming present of bathroom reading material, consisting of the dirty magazine of your choice, a Foxtrot book for those days when you are humor-minded, and the special Missionary Repellant (grail-shaped) to grace your household. Rise, oh newly made God of New Homes, and remember the contact paper for your kitchen shelves. Oh, and Shadow-Lover, I Proclaim you all sexes to all sexes! Lady Thess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:47:58 -0400 From: JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Birth control/Wet Wings/Parenting/Weather Message-ID: <960618184757_332271033-+AT+-emout12.mail.aol.com> Cheryl wrote: >>And I can't think of a ML idea to add. Except there does seem to be a lack of birth control, and the only illigitimate (sp?) child I can think of is Van's nephew. If a reliable method of birth control wasn't available, I'd expect a lot more.<< Birth control was available, at least to Heralds. Textevd: ( AOQ, p.247-248) Sherrill: You know about babies and all that, right? Talia: I should hope so, seeing as they'd planned on marrying me off before I came here! Sherrill: Well, do you know how *not* to have them? I mean, you must have noticed that you don't often see a pregnant Herald, and we're hardly a celibate bunch... Sherrill: We've got something the Healers make up for us. It's a powder--you take some every day, except when you're having moon days. ------------------------------------- A thread got started about the story Wet Wings. What anthology is it in? ------------------------------------- I was listening to a tape of Sweet Honey in the Rock and want to share these song lyrics with the list, in relation to the parenting discussion: Your children are not your children They are the sons and the daughters of life's longing for itself They come through you, but they are not from you and though they are with you, they belong not to you You can give them your love but not their thoughts They have their own thoughts They have their own thoughts You can house their bodies but not their souls For their souls dwell in a place of tomorrow which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams You can try to be like them but you cannot make them just like you ----------------------------------- Cheryl wrote: >>ML doesn't mention weather a lot, aside from the storm which, I think, trapped Talia and was it Dirk? That storm sounded to me like a real NE blizzard, not a tornado. I don't remember a description of a tornado in any of her books.<< In Jinx High, isn't Di concerned about the weather being unnatural because the "One Below" is having troubled dreams? I don't remember if they were having storms or not though. Julia Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:15:08 -0400 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Newbie Alert Message-ID: <960618201505_416966186-+AT+-emout16.mail.aol.com> Sun's warm greetings, Heyla, Bonjour, Adios, Poisson, Ka Sona... nevermind... All right, you're probably wondering why Lady Silvermoon is suddenly a newbie again. For those of you who might have already figured this out, this isn't Silvermoon. This is her sister, who decided (since we share the bill) it would be a lot cheaper if I just wrote under her name instead of both of us spending three minutes to get the same mail. This is Windshadow, and I've been lurking a tiny bit through all of her mail. For most of it, I'm still about as confused as I get, I'm not up to the minute with the current topics and inside jokes. So that you know the difference, I'll begin each message with Rylissia- which is my screen name. If any needs to reach me and doesn't want Silvermoon to see, I can be reached at Rylissia-+AT+-aol.com. -Windshadow K'Chona With the faithful companionship of Kanya, Syana, Mylahi, and Ydreen ***And they look at you like they don't speak your language, and you're living at the bottom of a well, and you swallow all those awful bloody secrets, that you can't tell.** Joan Osborne "Crazy Baby" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:44:21 -0600 (MDT) From: ARMSTRJO-+AT+-ZIAVMS.ENMU.EDU To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: ANYBODY HELP Message-ID: <960618184421.2493-+AT+-ZIAVMS.ENMU.EDU> O.K. y'all, I'm serious here. I need some information about filk I don't care who gives it to me, but I do need some help for my final project in *graduate class*. I'm sorry to sound in a bad mood, but I've got until July 5 to get this done. Oh, is there any articles I could read about filk. All right here's something Misty related. I just reread LMH and it said somewhere in there (book -+AT+-home, me -+AT+-lab) about how Elspeth married someone from Iftel to secure diplomatic relations. When did this happen or am I reading that phrase out of context. Wind to thy wings, Jolene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bringing up children Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote: > I let my children question everything (it drives their teachers > crazy). If it is a fact, we look it up. If it is an opinion, I will > tell them what I think and why (I tend to very opinionated, in case > you hadn't noticed). If it is something I don't know, I will tell > them that. > > Diana You know, that's how my parents raised me, and for while I was really driving my teachers wild, actually, sometimes I still do. If it's not asking tons of questions until is explained satifactorily to me, then it's arguing about what the facts really are. I had a couple of nice long debates with my biology teacher last year, who was teaching the theory of evolution, but he was presenting it as a fact, and leaving out information supporting the creation theory. He still one of my favortie teachers though, because he actually loved having students ask questions, and even argue with him, as long as they had some evidence to bacl it up. (visions of Cennyd screaming TEXTEV.!!!, actually, Cennyd, you're a lot like him) *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: The Suck Zone To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Taxes Message-ID: "Taxes?! We don't need no Steenkin Taxes!" -- Gyrfalcon All right, here are my taxes and tithes for this year. Taxes - One chocolate covered cow, stirred in a milk-chocolate and powedered with white-coconuts dust in a tornado (Just saw Twister) of same. Five like sheep. Tithe - One sheep-shaped, sheep flavored chocolate (life-size). One chocolate-shaped, chocolate-flavored sheep. 8//////]==================> LADY JAGUAR of the Cat People Companion Lavaan "If looks could kill they probably will in games without frontiers, war without tears" 8//////]==================> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bible Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Perkins,Cheryl;=7001696 wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote: > So they have. The Bible has been mistaken for centuries. I prefer to > choose the `love your neighbour' bit. I don't go in for `burn wiches' > bit. Okay, where in the Bible does it say to burn witches? I have never come across that. You can't really take everything in the Bible seriously, and I have Textev. too: (this is a riot, it cracked me up first time I read it, I decided I was going to read the new testament, and this is what I found :)) Leviticus 13:47 Regulations about Mildew (told you it was funny) If any clothing is contaminated with mildew........(snip the kinds of clothing).....and if it is a reddish or greenish, it is a spreading mildew and must be shown to the priest. The priest is to isolate the article for seven days....... It goes on and on, 13 verses about it. Leviticus 14:19 Discharges causing uncleanliness When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity will last for seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean until evening.Anything she lies on will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. Whoever touches anything she sits on will be inclean, and must bathe in water and wash his clothes. He will be unclean until evening. (snip) When she is cleansed from her discharge, she must count off seven days, and after that she will be ceremonially clean. On the eighth day she must take two doves or two young pigeons and bring them to the priest at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. The priest is to sacrifice one as a sin offering, and one as a burnt offering. There's more like this, a whole saction on camp cleanliness, makes me *really* glad I was not alive then, poor women must have spent half their lives becoming ceremonially clean again. I guess it just shows how dependent the Isrealites were on God and their faith. The New Testament is like a guide for everyday life, like a handbook, although it reads like VCR instructions. *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:31:21 -0700 From: Chen Chen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Taxes Message-ID: <199606191631.JAA07899-+AT+-rgs.rgs.edu.sg> > > On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > > > No, you don't have to bow unless I go into formal mode. By The Way > > people, taxes are due, and it doesn't matter what country you live in. I am > > Queen of Everything, so you still owe. I like chocolate. And sheep... > > Oops, I forgot, I wasn't going to mention them again. To Lady 'Reesa, I offer you a magical box of chocolate that will never run out, never go bad, and never melt. As for the sheep, I will give you a herd of them. They will assist you in falling asleep by letting you count them as they jump across your bed. **************************************************************************** ******** * Chen Chen aka Lady Moonsong * * Eladi (Bondbird, grey with white streaks) * * "All those who would hold Madic's Power must then pay Magic's Price" * * "All those who would be Magic's Pride must then pay Magic's Price." * **************************************************************************** ******** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Of sheep and cows... :) Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Tony and Michele wrote: > >Then you may jump down, now skip through the tofu until you fall, > >and all your gray hairs related to stress will have disappeared. Easy, > >really. It will also relieve you completely of all stress, and leave you > >ready to face the Ugliness Men. > > > > Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals > > > > Oh wise and powerful Lady Becky, I have a question about the Silver Saver > Stress Reliever. If I were to find myself in possession of both the sacred > object and a vast amount of tofu, would my hair colour be restored, or would the > grey hair disappear. I would hate to enter into a close personal relationship > with bean curd, (not to mention learning levitation and Gaelic) only to be ren- > dered suddenly and completely hairless. > Awaiting Enlightenment, > Michele > (new to the list) > By gray hairs disappearing, it means they will revert back to normal hair color, and you won't be able to see gray hairs anymore, therefore disappearing. YOU MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE A 30 GALLON TUB OF TOFU HANDY AT ALL TIMES!!!!!!! Sheeesh, in *my* day, we slways had tofu, and we brought it up a 20 mile hill, in burning hot weather, without shoes! Our parents taught us Gaelic while they were still pregnant, and we had better know how to levitate, because that was the only way to get to the bathrooms, which were on the fourth floor, but there weren't any stairs. But did we complain? Nooooooooo sir! That's the way it was, and weeeee liked it! What has the world come to these days? :) :) :) Just kidding :) Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:40:11 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ANYBODY HELP Message-ID: <960618213959_559159973-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com> xAll right here's something Misty related. I just reread LMH xand it said xsomewhere in there (book -+AT+-home, me -+AT+-lab) about how Elspeth xmarried someone xfrom Iftel to secure diplomatic relations. When did this xhappen or am I xreading that phrase out of context. xWind to thy wings, xJolene It was referring to one of the many other Elspeths. You were thinking of the Elspeth in the Winds books right? Well, in LHM she hadn't even been born. (Woulda been kinda difficult considering Vanyel is her forefather xgx)It was talking about either Elspeth the Peacemaker, Elspeth the Wise or one of the other ones. (Sorry, can't think of them all) x Lady Nightshadow aka Shady x ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:18:31 -0400 From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Baaaaah! Message-ID: <960618213238_332447974-+AT+-emout10.mail.aol.com> >No, that's Wyoming, "Where men are Men and sheep are >nervous." That's it!!!! That's why I thought Montana was known for that!!! They have a similar saying that goes like so: "Where men are Men and sheep are scared." I feel better now. Thank you ever so much, David. Lady Nightshadow aka Shady ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:35:53 -0700 From: Chen Chen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Lost knowledge. Message-ID: <199606191735.KAA08249-+AT+-rgs.rgs.edu.sg> >Just to play Devil's Advocate here-But couldn't the oh-so-powerful Vanyel >spirt have set up a spell to bring potential mages to him in >Sorrows so that he could train them instead of playing games with peoples >minds? > >David Tiffany I thought Vanyel did so. He made a spell that brought Elspeth and Darkwind to him when they were using a Gate. **************************************************************************** ******** * Chen Chen aka Lady Moonsong * * Eladi (Bondbird, grey with white streaks) * * "All those who would hold Madic's Power must then pay Magic's Price" * * "All those who would be Magic's Pride must then pay Magic's Price." * **************************************************************************** ******** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David Tiffany To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bible Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > first time I read it, I decided I was going to read the new testament, > and this is what I found :)) > > Leviticus 13:47 Regulations about Mildew (told you it was funny) > Funny, in my Bible Leviticus is in the OLD testament! My favorite is still the bit in Deut. about how to go potty. (roughly, since I don't have time to look it up) "thou shalt go forth from thy camp and dig a hole then turn about and cover that which comest from thee." Still good advice in the great outdoors but does this mean it's a sin to use indoor plumbing? BTW, ask your local creationist WHICH creation story in Genesis they favor, there are two completly different and contradictory ones(if taken literally) in the first two chapters. IE 7 days vs Garden of Eden. this is why most non-fudementalist churches have no problem with eveloution, this stuff has to be taken as metaphor or you run into contradictions all over the place. And where did Cain's wife come from? OBMisty; does the Book of One contain contradictions or is it internally consistent? David Tiffany ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:09:19 -0400 From: Sarah Worley To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Baaaaah! Message-ID: <199606190309.XAA16926-+AT+-ist.net> On June 19, Shady wrote: > >No, that's Wyoming, "Where men are Men and sheep are >nervous." > That's it!!!! That's why I thought Montana was known for > that!!! They have a similar saying that goes like so: "Where men are Men and > sheep are scared." I feel better now. Thank you ever so > much, David. "Where women were real women, men were real men, and little fuzzy creatures from Alpha-Centauri were real little fuzzy creatures from Alpha- Centauri." What would a Misty-Adams collab look like? Or probably Misty- Prattchet, seeing as Prattchet does more in the fantasy area (that I know of). Hmm... Zhai'hai'allav'a Dass dassin-+AT+-ist.net Even evil magicians get up in the night http://www.dassin.org/ and look for cookies, sometimes. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:05:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Becky Cary To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bible Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, David Tiffany wrote: > stuff has to be taken as metaphor or you run into contradictions all over > the place. And where did Cain's wife come from? Why, certainly you don't think that God can only be active in one place at a time. There was just another Creation going on in the next county, is all. Becky -------------- Hey, let's give a big round of applause to what's-his-name, the maker of the vacuum cleaner. After all, if you think about it, who else in history has made more money off of something that sucks? Ok, _besides_ Aaron Spelling. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:10:07 -0700 (MST) From: kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com (Herald Michal) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bible Message-ID: <199606190410.VAA24560-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com> Heyla! >On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Perkins,Cheryl;=7001696 wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote: >> So they have. The Bible has been mistaken for centuries. I prefer to >> choose the `love your neighbour' bit. I don't go in for `burn wiches' >> bit. If I can just jump in to add a non-Misty related fact (Lady and Lord, but I'm doing this a lot...) about the Bible, did ya'll know that the Christian/Jewish God accepted human sacrifice? I Don't remember 'xactly where offhand, (though I can definitely find it if anyone's interested), but the gist of it is that a king prays for vicotry in an upcoming battle, and in exchange offers to give up in sacrifice the first person who comes to greet him when he returns. He goes and fights, wins, comes back, and who should come out to greet him but his daughter...and much as he doesn't want to, he's a faithful man and sacrifices her sometime later. Of course, this is all IIRC, but I think I got the gist of it...phew, I need an ObMisty: Some deities in Velgarth require human sacrifice...does Vkandis, that we know of? hmmm... *************************************************** Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr VP of the VEVUWEC and member of the DMFs *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Becky Anne Christensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bible Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, David Tiffany wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Becky Anne Christensen wrote: > > > first time I read it, I decided I was going to read the new testament, > > and this is what I found :)) > > > > Leviticus 13:47 Regulations about Mildew (told you it was funny) > > > Funny, in my Bible Leviticus is in the OLD testament! My favorite is still > the bit in Deut. about how to go potty. > oops, call it stupidity, I don't know why, but I do that all the time, I always call the old testament the new testament, and I call the new testamtent the old testament. > And where did Cain's wife come from? I always thoughtAdam & Eve had more children than just Cain and Abel, they just weren't mentioned, that's right, inbreeding. Must have been a family full of psychos for a few generations. I also think the Bible is consistent, but has lost some meaning in translations, I mean we already know what kind of a difference one little word can make, imagine what the Bible was really like in the original form, I would give just about anything to be able to read *that*. > > David Tiffany > > *^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_*^_ Lady Becky, Goddess of Stress & Dry Breakfast Cereals Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads *They*Might*Be*Giants* ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 626 *********************************