MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 643 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Wheel! Of! Time!! Was re: Repost: Top Ten List #1 by Jake 2) Re:keychains by David Snyder 3) Re: Threading, Braiding, whatever by David Snyder 4) Re: Mistyfans vs. weirdo fans by David Snyder 5) Re: Telnet Site by Shadow-Lover 6) Re: Tiger Burning Bright - semi-spoiler by Shadow-Lover 7) Death and the Shadow-Lover by Shadow-Lover 8) Re: All things Nocturnal... by Shadow-Lover 9) Re:keychains by catwoman 10) Re: Telnet Site by Korendil 11) Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover by Korendil 12) Re: All things Nocturnal... by Korendil 13) Companions & Mage-Gift. by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) 14) Re: Braids/Bella by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 15) Sword and Sorceress books by Derek MacArthur 16) Re: Braids by "Kimber Brumbaugh" 17) Re: The naming of Gods by "Jenna (Stormcloud)" 18) Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover by Raven1260-+AT+-aol.com 19) Re: 10 pts prize by Wildfire 20) braid -heyla/Disney/me/dreams/ObMisty by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl 21) Re: Sword and Sorceress books by skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele) 22) Stuff by "Amy, Alice, & Jim Trivitt" 23) Re: Grove-born Companions and mage level by Sean Talbot 24) Bits and Pieces by Sandra K Haas 25) Re: Re:keychains by MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US 26) Re: Bits and Pieces by MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US 27) Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jake To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Wheel! Of! Time!! Was re: Repost: Top Ten List #1 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960627002719.2c9f44ee-+AT+-webspan.net> At 09:31 PM 6/26/96 +0100, Kory wrote: > >>(Rynath wrote) >>Well, could be. But that's not what it's supposed to mean. WOT? :P. Bella >>is the name of the Companion of one of my friend's Herald personas. > > >Wheel of Time. Robert Jordan's tremendously huge epic fantasy series, >which isn't THAT good, but has an appeal. I know that. Just that you would associate that with Wheel of Time was odd. > LIke....Melrose Place in print LOL! >or something, with more subtle ruthlessness and less sex. Bella is a name >of a horse int he series, and an obsession of the fans. She's been in >just about every book, so everyone thinks she's hiding SOMETHING;> Yes, >the horse. Since the guy only comes out with a new book every 14 months, >we search for ANYTHING to discuss;> >ObMisty: At least we don't have to wait over a year for ONE new book..we >get two valdemar and a few others _every year_. Unfortunately, they're all the quality of Robert Jordan's books. And by that I mean they're weak, not that they're great! I've read books one and two of WOT, and I probably will read them all, and I'll have my fun, but I won't ever put them up there with Misty's old works, or even some of Edding's books. Stars Bright Thy Path (and Forever Guide Thee True...) Jake / Rynath in Green * "A genuine anteater," God of Parody and Top Ten Lists * The pet man told my Dad Avatar of Humor * Turned out, it was an *aunt* eater, rynath-+AT+-webspan.net * And now my Uncle's mad! http:\\www.webspan.net\~rynath * -- Shel Silverstein, "Anteater" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:30:29 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:keychains Message-ID: <199606270430.AAA04881-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 10:18 PM 6/26/96 +0100, you wrote: >This is to everyone who wants a keychain. Just so that noone thinks I >forgot about them, I haven't. I had a major case of summer fever and I >just had to get to an amusement park and ride the wildest craziest rides >I could find. I actually got to two amusement parks so I should be >pretty calm for awhile. I haven't checked my e-mail since Sat. and it >is now Wed. I'm just getting caught up on everything. I think I still >have about 100 messages to read. Okay, back to the point, I go on >vacation in three more days so I will be getting most of the stuff to >make the keychains then. I think that we will be making a basic design >and then putting personal touches in for each indivdual. Bye for now!! > >Love, luck, and lollipops, > Mishi ********************************** OOO, Mishi, me too, pretty please? By the way, how much are you charging, do you send C.O.D., or do we send you postage, how do you do this? Email me, please, khethael-+AT+-bridge.net. Lady Thessaly " I used to be bad when I was a kid Goddess of Nomenclature but ever since then I have gone straight MKGC as I can prove by my record--33 arrests and Lady in Green no convictions." Big Jule, (Damon Runyon) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:30:23 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Threading, Braiding, whatever Message-ID: <199606270430.AAA04873-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 12:04 AM 6/27/96 +0100, you wrote: >Lady Thess: >I do hereby humbly submit my request for you to grant me the title: >"Vrondi, Mistress of the Air, One With the Trees" >your servent, >-Vrondi *********************** Ok, you're added to the Roll Call, Vrondi, Sylver Dove, Catwoman, and Rachel. **************************** Rachel, we have a Lady 'Reesa, so could you either pick a different name, a different spelling, or some other way of differentiating? *************************** Cenydd, someone else, (Nora, I think) told me to go into Window, click on Signature, and just type it in there. So I did, and it worked, and my question is, is the way you told me how to do it going to make certain that the other person whose address this is won't get my sig, or should I just change it to "no sig" when I'm not typing in posts? Not that he ever uses this part of Eudora, he goes in for newsgroups which are on Netscape on this program, but still. ******************* Lady Nightshadow, you can still do the list if you want to, what I'm doing is gathering the Roll Call of the Pantheon of Modern Gods for one major elaborate ceremony, as soon as my brain starts working! That came about because on one particularly bad day, I got something like 5 requests for Naming, and I couldn't think of any, and the next day I got a lot more, and it snowballed, so now I'm gonna do one major ceremony, with a line or two for each God/ess. But if you have a homepage, you can add the List, or anyone else can, for that matter. ***************** Catwoman, I already got the info, but thanks anyway. Lady Thessaly " I used to be bad when I was a kid Goddess of Nomenclature but ever since then I have gone straight MKGC as I can prove by my record--33 arrests and Lady in Green no convictions." Big Jule, (Damon Runyon) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:30:13 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Mistyfans vs. weirdo fans Message-ID: <199606270430.AAA04869-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 01:37 AM 6/26/96 +0100, you wrote: >Yes, she does, but she doesn't want *anyone* broadcasting her address. I >suppose it's because she doesn't want to be deluged with fan requests. It's >in the FAQ somewhere... I have had an e-mail address of hers for quite some >time now. I just never use it. >If people are dying to know something, why not write her snailmail? I don't >have her address but I know that's something she doesn't mind being posted. >Jake / Rynath in Green ************************* I just got Harlan Ellison's Edgeworks, and it's got this amazing essay on why a lot of authors have become hermits, he's got some horror stories about weirdo fans that would curl your hair, but one made me cry. It was about an elderly writer, no name given, who took a fan in out of the goodness of his heart, and let this fan stay with him for a few weeks. The writer and his wife had to go out one night, emergency style, and the asked the fan to watch their 11 year old granddaughter, and a few weeks after the fan left, they found out that the scumbucket had sodomized the granddaughter. And that was the WORST story, but there were way to many writers who wrote Harlan with "I was at a con, and a fan did this horrible thing to me." stories. It really makes you wonder at people. Too many people think that Ellison is a slobbering, raving chauvinist because of the story "A Boy and His Dog" (incidentally, one of my all-time favorites) where the protagonists just so happen to eat a girl. Who richly deserved it, IMHO. And this guy, this chauvinist, went around touring for the ERA, and boycotted states that wouldn't ratify it, unless they held two ERA rallies. Lady Thessaly " I used to be bad when I was a kid Goddess of Nomenclature but ever since then I have gone straight MKGC as I can prove by my record--33 arrests and Lady in Green no convictions." Big Jule, (Damon Runyon) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:56:22 -0400 From: Shadow-Lover To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Telnet Site Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960627045622.00692844-+AT+-popd.ix.netcom.com> > >OBMISTY: No dragons in Velgarth; although we DO have the cold-drake. But >then again, she could mean a huge male swan or duck, instead of a dragon! > Could you see that! > Er... IIRC There was a Dragon in one of the Tarma and Kethry stories in one of the latest Sword and Sorceress books... - Shadow-Lover ************************-=E-mail-WDJPEJ-+AT+-ix.netcom.com=-*********************** * - Puritainism: The haunting fear that somebody, somewhere might be happy...* * * * - Very funny, Scotty... Now beam down my clothes... * * * * - Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies... * *******************************-=IRC: Hairenn=-******************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:56:28 -0400 From: Shadow-Lover To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Tiger Burning Bright - semi-spoiler Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960627045628.006a266c-+AT+-popd.ix.netcom.com> >this is all IMHO of course: >I'd say Marion Zimmer Bradley wrote Adele >Andre' wrote Lydana >and Misty wrote Shelyra and Leopold. >I haven't quite made up my mind about Apolon or Thom. Leopold? I agree about everything else, but Apolon (being a blood-path mage) just smacks of Misty to me... I would have guessed Leopold to be more Bradley's style... He was too... stiff? to be Misty's character... - Shadow-Lover ************************-=E-mail-WDJPEJ-+AT+-ix.netcom.com=-*********************** * - Puritainism: The haunting fear that somebody, somewhere might be happy...* * * * - Very funny, Scotty... Now beam down my clothes... * * * * - Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies... * *******************************-=IRC: Hairenn=-******************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:56:19 -0400 From: Shadow-Lover To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Death and the Shadow-Lover Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960627045619.00684220-+AT+-popd.ix.netcom.com> >Shadow-Lover as haveing any control over me. Ya hear me! You can not have any >hold over me! Never, never, never! (Whimpering - I never want to court the >Shadow-Lover) > > Hmmm... Here's an ObMisty to think about: How common was the song "The Shadow-Lover"? I'd think that it would seriously unnerve most people... Although I found it very touching... (Hence the reason I took on the persona)... I find it nice to think that there's that kind of presence beyond death... Just as an off topic thrown in: How many of you out there actually fear death, and what comes after? and Why? I've never been afraid of dying... I've thought about the people I'd be leaving behind, and I'd sorrow for them, but I'm not afraid... Not that I'm suicidal and want to die or anything, it's just I can't see how it could be any worse that living... (Gee that sounds depressing...) Death to me has always held a peaceful overtone, rather than a fearsome one... Is it just me, or do any of you feel the same? - Shadow-Lover ************************-=E-mail-WDJPEJ-+AT+-ix.netcom.com=-*********************** * - Puritainism: The haunting fear that somebody, somewhere might be happy...* * * * - Very funny, Scotty... Now beam down my clothes... * * * * - Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies... * *******************************-=IRC: Hairenn=-******************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:56:12 -0400 From: Shadow-Lover To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: All things Nocturnal... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960627045612.00679338-+AT+-popd.ix.netcom.com> >> *Shadow-Lover bows to Korendil...* :I recognize you as >>God of All Things Nocturnal, may your darkness provide solace for all the >>creatures of night, and peace for all who dwell in it...: *Shadow-Lover >> > >Uh-uh. No way. I'm not settling, Shadow. Relinquish ALL claims to the >night. And, I just realized, none of this matters. Shadow-Lover is >basically God of Twilight, Shadows, and All Things In Between Actually... Shadow-Lover is the Lord of the Dead and evidently has some power over dreams... (Why am I reminded of Phantom of the Opera?) Halfway through my belated analysis of the song I noted the lack of distiction when discussing Shadow-Lover's abilities... And going back to textevd in the LHM series, Shadow-Lover is noted with the ability to control Shadows, and maintains, again, some power over dreams... Now to lay down my argument: Dreams are not actually a "Thing Nocturnal"... They can occur at any time... They are just generally associated with night, due to the large number of people that sleep during the night-time hours... (Lord, I miss sleeping when it was DARK outside!) So they do not fall under your domain, nor in fact, after careful scrutiny, do they appear in mine... It seems that Shadow-Lover is just able to appear in dreams... >and I am God Of All Things Nocturnal. Er... I need not relenquish anything... If you note, I've already recognized you as the Thesselay appointed God of All Things Nocturnal *Bowing again to the supreme word of The Goddess of Nomenclature* In recognizing you as such, I give up any claimes on night, and any creature living or undead (The dead are still in my catagory... :) dwelling therein (With the sole exception of myself, seeing as how I'm one of the below stated burn-the-midnight-oilers, and even then I bow to your regency...) >Not of Night. But if you even DARE tread >in the dreams of my subjects (and >you know who you are, you burn-the-midnight-oilers), I shall extract my >punishment in FULL! Ooo... Is that a challenge I hear? *Shadow-Lover wheels back and tosses a homing coconut in Korendil's direction...* :If it's a mage-duel you were after, why didn't you just say so...: With that, Shadow-Lover shifts over to the White Coconut Plane and awaits a reply... >You, as your name shows, love shadows. And there ARE No shadows at night... Err... Shadow-Lover is not Lover of Shadows, its Lover MADE OF Shadows... But, this is a moot point... Just thought I'd throw it in... - Shadow-Lover ************************-=E-mail-WDJPEJ-+AT+-ix.netcom.com=-*********************** * - Puritainism: The haunting fear that somebody, somewhere might be happy...* * * * - Very funny, Scotty... Now beam down my clothes... * * * * - Friends help you move... Real friends help you move bodies... * *******************************-=IRC: Hairenn=-******************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 22:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: catwoman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re:keychains Message-ID: <199606270523.WAA21476-+AT+-inreach.com> At 06:17 6/27/96 +0100, you wrote: >>Okay, back to the point, I go on >>vacation in three more days so I will be getting most of the stuff to >>make the keychains then. I think that we will be making a basic design >>and then putting personal touches in for each indivdual. Bye for now!! >>Love, luck, and lollipops, >> Mishi >********************************** >OOO, Mishi, me too, pretty please? By the way, how much are you charging, >do you send C.O.D., or do we send you postage, how do you do this? >Email me, please, khethael-+AT+-bridge.net. I want one toooooooo....Please? e-mail me too...i want to compensate you for all your beautiful handiwork and all the work you'll be putting into this.. -Cat\/\/oman catwoman-+AT+-inreach.com Lady In Green Cat Person and still looking for a spiffy sig.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 02:44:18 EDT From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: Telnet Site Message-ID: <9606270644.AA12345-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> > Er... IIRC There was a Dragon in one of the Tarma and Kethry >stories in one of the latest Sword and Sorceress books... > - Shadow-Lover Yes, but that story also took place in another multi-verse. And might not even have ahppened (yeah right). So pthhhb!;P:P And that isn't your classic dragon, either;> Alright story, though. NonObMisty: Are all Misty books in the same multi-verse? *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 02:50:10 EDT From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover Message-ID: <9606270650.AA12421-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> > Hmmm... Here's an ObMisty to think about: How common was the song >"The Shadow-Lover"? I'd think that it would seriously unnerve most >people... Although I found it very touching... (Hence the reason I took on >the persona)... I find it nice to think that there's that kind of presence >beyond death... Well, I dunno..if Bard Alexander performs the Valdemar version, I'm sure it's VERY popular;> Sorta weird: When lusting after SS before it came out, I concentrated on wondering what Mprice would sound like; and pretty much ignoring Shadow-Lover. Now on the CD I LOVE Shadow-Lover and stop whatever I'm doing and listen (I even put it on a tape of depressing songs I made), and try to ignore Mprice. > Just as an off topic thrown in: How many of you out there actually >fear death, and what comes after? and Why? I've never been afraid of >dying... I've thought about the people I'd be leaving behind, and I'd >sorrow for them, but I'm not afraid... Not that I'm suicidal and want to >die or anything, it's just I can't see how it could be any worse that >living... (Gee that sounds depressing...) Death to me has always held a >peaceful overtone, rather than a fearsome one... Is it just me, or do any >of you feel the same? > > - Shadow-Lover I think the thing I'm scared of is dying before I've done what I want to, and expereinced a lot of things. I usually find the best way to think about death is not to. SOmetimes when I'm morbid I think: What would happen if (put important person in my life in here) died, and then follow that thread out. Then I try and forget about death again. But as Death has said: NO ONE GETS PARDONED FOR LIVING (no, not shouting, death;>) Sidenote: I first realized what death really MEANT watching the Les Mis musical when I was 7...we were in London... *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 03:01:21 EDT From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Re: All things Nocturnal... Message-ID: <9606270701.AA12677-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> > > Ooo... Is that a challenge I hear? *Shadow-Lover wheels back and >tosses a homing coconut in Korendil's direction...* :If it's a mage-duel you >were after, why didn't you just say so...: With that, Shadow-Lover shifts >over to the White Coconut Plane and awaits a reply... As you appear to challenge my Realm, then, yes Shadow-Lover, duel we SHALL! I take it, though, we should take it off the list....hmm...this is sorta scary..dueling with the list-member living nearest me...I DO think the duel should wait until my official Naming, until such time I am Powerless. And, btw, About no shadows at night, I feel that true, total, night has no moon..stars are objective on what planet you're on;> ObMisty: do we know any of the costellation in velgarth? I forget. *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. _____________________________________________________________________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net |Blue Bread Mold, the story must be told Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|Nothing keep you livin' like the Blue IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|Bread Mold-- Leslie Fish *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 17:13:56 EST From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Companions & Mage-Gift. Message-ID: <9606270713.AA22494-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com> >From Winds of Fury, Cymry to the sword Need: ":I think even you would be no match for Kero and Sayvil together,: Cymry said decisively. :And your magic would give you no edge - no pun intended - if Sayvil were to bend her will against yours." There's a clear implication that Sayvil-the-Companion still retains her Mage-gift (even apart from the interest she takes in the training of the new herald-mages). Cheers, Kerry. "And I'll arise, to the stars, Golden feathers and flame I'll fly. I'll touch your dreams in the dark, Remember the glory that time passed by." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 13:58:23 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braids/Bella Message-ID: <9606271158.AA14055-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> I wrote: > Also, (I'm on a roll here) there's no mention in either of the latest two > books (whatever the devil they're called - y'know, the Karal ones) > of emerging mage talents among heralds. You'd think that Elspeth was still > the one with any. You'd think there'd be a few latents out there awaiting > their 4 footed call-up. an' Kerry said: > There were Heralds already chosen with Mage-gift - they got back and > started classes with the Gryphons teaching and I believe Firesong as well. > Note that Sayvil/Savil also was paying attention. :) Yes, but that was in the last Winds book. There's been no mention of heralds with mage powers or potential, other than Elspeth, in the first two Storm books - that was my point. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- And to all you Jordan/WoT folks out there - it's Bela, not Bella, and she's the third character introduced in the first book - not the fourth. I checked last night. Y'know, each time a new one of those comes out I start in a the beginning, and read on through - that's 7 times for book 1 - it's not _that_ good! A while back, when I had time, I was seriously surfing through the Jordan sites and came across this fun page of "comments" on the various covers for the books. It was funny, and I'd like to go through them again. But, can I find it? Can I heck. Anyone know it/know where it is? There's a LOT of Jordan stuff to go through out there. ============================================================================= Shadow-Lover asked: > How many of you out there actually fear death, and what comes after? and Why? Not me - I've never seen the point, if there's one thing in life you can be sure of, it's dying. Maybe working as a nurse in an intensive care unit for 10 years helped - I've seen death be sudden, a release, a screaming tragedy, peaceful, bitterly fought, longed for. I've watched from new born babies to weary wrinklies die, and held my cat while he was helped on his way. I watched my Dad die last year - and _nothing_ has ever made me question my belief that there's nothing to it - the light goes out, and you're gone. The carcass left behind is empty. As to later - pfft - who knows. If there is a being that wants to judge me and my life - fine, I'm 38 years in, and regret nothing. I may not go to church, or "believe", but I have my own codes and standards that I live by. That's not to say that a few more years wouldn't be nice ...... ObMisty: Oof - nah, can't think of anything. It must be time for a re-read! tot ziens, Esmeralda Evensbane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:08:18 -0400 From: Derek MacArthur To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Sword and Sorceress books Message-ID: <31D279B2.3F96-+AT+-mint.net> SPEAKING of the Sword and Sorceress books, does anyone know where I might be able to order/get them. I live in the backseat of the world, and I've looked everywhere around here, with no luck. Thanks for any help :) ------------------------------ Date: 27 Jun 1996 07:59:11 -0400 From: "Kimber Brumbaugh" To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald." Subject: Re: Braids Message-ID: ------------------------------ Date: 6/26/96 7:52 PM To: Brumbaugh, Kimber From: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald. ******* *Re: Naming of Gods: Khenta and Diana, I'm adding you to the Roll Call, and *whoever wanted to be goddess of Stupid Questions, I have one for you. *What's your name? There was no Sig. Kimber, you're getting added to the *Roll Call, but are you certain that you want THAT as you specialty? If you *wish to change your Name to something more positive in the hopes that it *changes, it might help change it, let me know. Actually, that's a very good point- I'm not usually this down, just had a lot of depressing stuff happening recently. Actually, how 'bout Goddess of Eternal Optimism- then even if it's not true at the time, it'll give me something to work for *grin* Sound a bit better? *Lady Thessaly " I used to be bad when I was a kid *Goddess of Nomenclature but ever since then I have gone straight *MKGC as I can prove by my record--33 arrests and *Lady in Green no convictions." Big Jule, (Damon Runyon) Kimber kimber_brumbaugh-+AT+-library.lib.ncsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:33:00 EST From: "Jenna (Stormcloud)" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: The naming of Gods Message-ID: <36D3EE73972-+AT+-SIMCL.STJOHNS.EDU> > I would like to formally submit my request to be named Reesa, The > Goddess of Stupid Questions. We already have Lady 'Reesa, Queen of Everything... not that we could ever mistake her for anyone else, but another Reesa might cause a bit of confusion.... -+AT+->--- Jenna Stormcloud and the menagerie, Lady of the Mists, Soon-to-be Goddess of Chat Rooms and Obsession Jenna-+AT+-SIMCL.STJOHNS.EDU ~~~~~ WilsonJ-+AT+-SJUMUSIC.STJOHNS.EDU http://members.tripod.com/~Stormcloud/index.html (UNDER CONSTRUCTION) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:26:34 -0400 From: Raven1260-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover Message-ID: <960627082633_226090383-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com> I was taught growing up that each part of the circle (i.e. birth, youth, adulthood(Ha Ha), elder, & death) was a time of learning and growth. None of who you are is ever lost, it is added to the great spirit when you leave this world behind. How can you be afraid of this. Imagine...all those you have loved and admired, awaiting you at the end of your journey. I only seek to make myself the best person possible so that I have something to contribute. Blessed Be, Raven ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:29:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Wildfire To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: 10 pts prize Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Topaze Smoke wrote: [snip] > > Well, in the meantime, here is the next reference: > > "My heart is with the Thousand, for today my friend stopped running" > > (worth 20 points) Isn't this from Watership Down, by...uh...Richard(?) Adams? Can't remember if it was Hazel who said this, when whazisname got caught in the wire...argh can't remember...Bigwig?? Cheers, Wildfire ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 15:37:48 +0200 From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: braid -heyla/Disney/me/dreams/ObMisty Message-ID: <9606271337.AA14210-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl> I sent this to lackey-owner-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk by mistake yesterday - I couldn't work out where the hell it'd gone - found it on my "general" mail account, the one I check about once a week! Sorry Mel! So, here it is, a day late, and pruned with hindsight! >From Rynath's YKYBRTMML (or whatever) list: > YOU: "Heyla, Boss!" > YOUR BOSS: "Heyla? What are you talking about?" I work with a lot of folk in Spain, who use "hola" a lot, I reciprocate with heyla. Never occurred to me that people mightn't understand! ========================================================================== Lady Thess wote: (aka the new Disney The Hunchback) > (snip) with Esmerelda marrying him, and that's not in the book either, book > Phoebus was a scumbucket who used Esmerelda and dumped her, (snip) this is where my monniker came from - we had a loooong thread waay back, 'bout who ran the Death bell and for whom, so I started a thread called "The bells, the bells Esmeralda" - it's a line from the Hollywood version of 40/50 years ago, said by aforementioned hunchback, played by - erm, Peter Lorie?? Nah, eerm, nope can't think. He had a lisp tho' so it came out "The bellth, the bellth, Ethmewalda". The name stuck. ========================================================================== Don't remember who asked this: > (Cennyd: Do you not agree that *SOME* dreams are > messages from the Otherworld? Well, this morning I woke up, had a cuddle with my ol' man, got cross 'cos the covers were too tight at my feet, rolled over to his side when he got up. Then I woke up, had a cuddle, ... and realised I'd been round this loop once already ........ wierd! ======================================================================= ObMisty: The Valdemarians weren't open minded about the Kero's merc. company were they - expecting them to rape the sheep and eat the women (or something). tot thienth, Ethmewalda Eventhbane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:21:45 -0400 (EDT) From: skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Sword and Sorceress books Message-ID: <199606271421.KAA15210-+AT+-victory.soonet.ca> >SPEAKING of the Sword and Sorceress books, does anyone know where I >might be able to order/get them. I live in the backseat of the world, >and I've looked everywhere around here, with no luck. Thanks for any >help :) > >I don't know about any of the other Sword and Sorceress books, but you can get Sword and Sorceress XII at Book Stacks at http://www.books.com Look under Marion (Zimmer) Bradley. Sorry if this sounds like a plug, but I was just there, and I remembered you asking about them. Happy reading:) Michele ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:02:42 -0700 From: "Amy, Alice, & Jim Trivitt" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <9606271502.AA19095-+AT+-mail.coos.or.us> Hi, Not much to say that is Misty related. Do have a question/plea? Could someone take pity on a poor ignorant soul and PLEASE send me a list of the abbrev. that you guys use. It took me several digests just to figure out that LHM stands for Last Herald Mage. If you feel like taking pity on me please send it to hill-+AT+-mail.coos.or.us with an Attn. Amy for the subject. We have three people using the same address here. Second non-Misty related subject. Does anyone know of any good used bookstores in Socorro, NM.? I plan on going to school there and I don't want to be deserted w/o my books. Amy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:41:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Grove-born Companions and mage level Message-ID: <199606271541.AA01030-+AT+-freenet.durham.org> One thing they said was that Yfandes hadn't chosen for 10 years. The only companion to have not chosen. And they said in one of the Talia books that companions don't choose at least till they're ten. So wouldn't you assume that Yfandes is at least 20. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Sandra K Haas To: Misty Mail-list Lackey Subject: Bits and Pieces Message-ID: Heyla!! Goddess of Clenched Teeth here, posting once more before being GONE to move until Monday the 1st!! If this post works it is because David Tiffany filled in some blanks for me on how to do this!! HOpe it works:} ********************************************************** Fireheart God of New Homes Dispenser of Contact paper Owner of the ever-replenishing House-warming Basket Fireheart, FYI, we will start the kitchen cleaning and shelf paper work tomorrow (Fri.) about 1pm. See you there!! :} *********************************************************** Ok, here's the list of already Named, let me know if I've Named you yet, Sandy, Goddess of Clenched Teeth--did I Name you? **Yes you did, I think you hit me with a board or something.... it was quite a pleasure :} Lady Thessaly, Goddess of Nomenclature, MKGC, Lady in Green *************************************************************** From: hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com I've started an unusual Misty project and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to take part in it. I'm making a photo album full of nothing but pictures of Misty fans. I'm an aspiring photographer and of course a relentless Misty fan, so this idea really appeals to me, though I'm sure many of you are going "Why?" (For me, any Misty related photo is like combining two passions into one tangable object.) Anyway, is there anyone out there who'd be willing to send me a spare image of themselves? I'd really appreciate any and all contributions and be eternally grateful!!! Arielle, Mistress of Mispellings and Typo;s Boy!! Are you brave!! I'll send a pic if you REALLY want it, but you'll have to put it in the 'really scary looking' category!! ****************************************************************** Oh it is bad. Most of D.F. Sander's are. Lesse....Cold Drake, Vrondi's Eye's, Eather SPirit, and Herald's Creed. Web and Hakwbrother are allright, though. And when Heather and Fish did the music..gods, what WERE they thinking with Magic's Price?! Not to emntion that they had something to do with Herald's Creed, too..... *-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+-*-+AT+- Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. _____________________________________________________________________________ I am going to have to get these recordings. The thought struck me that maybe some of the really bad ones were done as a joke. Something along the lines of 'lets see how bad we can make this, and see if anyone notices..' before they knew how popular everything was going to be?? ***************************************************************** From: catwoman ObMisty: There are no cheezy Partridge (sp???) Family songs in Valdemar, thank heavens! Hey!! I *like* Cheezy Partridge Family songs!! ..I think I love you.... ***************************************************************** From: Derek MacArthur SPEAKING of the Sword and Sorceress books, does anyone know where I might be able to order/get them. I live in the backseat of the world, and I've looked everywhere around here, with no luck. Thanks for any help :) Used bookstores!! If you are looking for anything particular, let me know and I'll keep my eyes open. ***************************************************************** TWO COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO MISTY QUESTIONS!! 1) I thought when the colony was founded on Pern, people were all thought to be of equal value. I really bugs me to have some people referred to as 'drudges' and its like they are 'poor white trash' (for lack of a better expresion). Did I get the whole thing wrong, that there always were divisions of class on Pern? 2) Has anyone done any fund raising and would give me some pointers?? We want to raise some $$ for my friend Tim to help pay medical bills. These last two, please respond privately to sandrah-+AT+-umich.edu. Don't want to clutter the list anymore!! *********************** OBMisty: there isn't a lot of household moving that goes on in Valdemar. I want to live there!! (well, for a lot of reasons, but that is one!!):} Sandy of the achy teeth...... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:45:44 -0600 (CST) From: MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Re:keychains Message-ID: <01I6EHK6972A003818-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US> I wanna keychain too... pweeeeez Mishi... Just make sure we all know what we need to send or do...etc...etcx...etc.... Thanks, Fireheart God of New Homes Dispenser of the etner Dispenser of the eternal Contact Paper Owner of the Perpetual Housewarming Basket ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:52:17 -0600 (CST) From: MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Bits and Pieces Message-ID: <01I6EHRNW86W003818-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US> Sandy wrote: >OBMisty: there isn't a lot of household moving that goes on in Valdemar. I want to live there!! So DO I!!! I have moved 3 times in the past month and am moving AGAIN on Monday... sheesh... but this is my final move.... I HOPE!!!! *Sandy... I give thee a roll of Eternal Contact paper for your move.... now gimme a tithe. ;-)* Fireheart God of New Homes Dispenser of the Everlasting Contact Paper Owner of the Eternal Housewarming Basket ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:22:30 -0400 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover Message-ID: <960627132228_341383923-+AT+-emout18.mail.aol.com> --------------RYLISSIA-------------------- In a message dated 96-06-27 01:39:09 EDT, you write: > Just as an off topic thrown in: How many of you out there actually >fear death, and what comes after? and Why? I've never been afraid of >dying... I've thought about the people I'd be leaving behind, and I'd >sorrow for them, but I'm not afraid... Not that I'm suicidal and want to >die or anything, it's just I can't see how it could be any worse that >living... (Gee that sounds depressing...) Death to me has always held a >peaceful overtone, rather than a fearsome one... Is it just me, or do any >of you feel the same? I don't fear death. Death is merely the gateway to a new beginning- hopefully a better one. I doubt there is anyone out there who isn't afraid of hell, unless you don't believe in it, but death doesn't equal hell. As long as Pergitory isn't like Earth, I don't think I mind dying, as long as I can do something for our dying planet before I go. And completely ObMisty (I love asking weird questions) I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want to die peacefully. No, peacefully isn't the correct term, but I don't want to just die of health problems. I'd rather die, eighty years old, from a fall from my trusted Arab mare (which I someday hope to own. I've wanted a horse for years, not just cause of Misty). I don't want to be stabbed in the face when I'm 30 or anything, but I don't want to just peter out cause of heart failure or cancer. No, I'm not a romantic, but heart attacks don't appeal to me, and neither do hospitals. I want to die- A) Outside or B) in my own house. Preferrably A, somewhere in the wilderness. (Nature freak alert!) Any one want to put in their own .02? Zhai'helleva -Windshadow Ydreen, Kanya, Mylahi, Syana ***And they look at you like they don't speak your language, and you're living at the bottom of a well, and you swallow all those awful bloody secrets, that you can't tell." Joan Osborne ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 643 *********************************