MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 650

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Sword and Sorceress books
	by ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong)
  2) Re: Re:keychains
	by reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk>
  3) Re: Big Time Braid
	by Wildfire <wildfire-+AT+-roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>
  4) re: Death
	by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl
  5) Party, top 10 
	by Robbie Betts <Betts-+AT+-kkinet.kki.jhu.edu>
  6) Re: The naming of Gods
	by Carrie MacDonald <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
  7) Re: Crossover/Amber
	by MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US
  8) Re: Braid:  Pink Wand/Fear of Death
	by MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US
  9) Re: The naming of Gods
	by Carrie MacDonald <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
 10) 
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
 11) Re: Crossover/Amber
	by Clarissa Smith/Claris Boii <ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>
 12) Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover
	by "Ian Macdonald (CS)" <ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk>
 13) Re: The naming of Gods
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
 14) Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc...
	by Megan Stingl Hale <mshale-+AT+-artsci.wustl.edu>
 15) Re: The naming of Gods
	by Megan Stingl Hale <mshale-+AT+-artsci.wustl.edu>
 16) Sadly puzzled...
	by Wildfire <wildfire-+AT+-roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>
 17) Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc...
	by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
 18) Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover
	by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
 19) Hello to Megan!!!
	by Barbara Slater  <SLATERB-+AT+-smtpgw2.musc.edu>
 20) Misty FAQ
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 21) Which CD to get?
	by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
 22) Re: Sadly puzzled...
	by "Vrondi" <deanca-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu>
 23) Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc... - Reply
	by Barbara Slater  <SLATERB-+AT+-smtpgw2.musc.edu>
 24) Re: Which CD to get?
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 25) french braid!
	by Tammy Harris <TAMARAH-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu>
 26) Re: Morgana/new books
	by David Snyder <khethael-+AT+-bridge.net>
 27) Re: The naming of Gods
	by skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele)
 28) owning a bookstore
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
 29) Re: french braid!
	by Sarah Worley <dassin-+AT+-ist.net>
 30) Braid:  Pink Wand/Fetching/Barbara/Shin'a'in/Farming
	by Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:27:14 +0800
From: ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg (Lady Windsong)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sword and Sorceress books
Message-ID: <199607011427.WAA22806-+AT+-sunflower.singnet.com.sg>

Morgana said:
>A really good place to look for III, is used book stores, if any are 
>near-by.... at least, that is where I found my copy..

Thanks very much everybody, for trying to help.  I can get the later copies
of S&S, but I *want* III because of the Tarma and Kethry story.  I can't get
it at the second hand bookstore, because they don't even have a single copy
of *any* of the S&S. <gasp>  Well, I'll keep trying.

 Wind to Thy Wings,   & Let me tell you of love: Love is patient and long
 Lady Windsong        & enduring;it is kind, never envying, never ambitious 
 Lyrra (bondbird)     & for itself, never putting on airs, or displaying 
 ywlau-+AT+-singnet.com.sg & itself haughtily; it boasts not.
                      &                  -- Dafyd, from _Merlin_


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:02:49 +0100 (BST)
From: reid ailsa <95243736-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Re:keychains
Message-ID: <199607011502.QAA16269-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk>

>On June 27 Fireheart wrote:
>
>>I wanna keychain too... pweeeeez Mishi... Just make sure we all know what
>we need to send or do...etc...etcx...etc.... 
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then Michele said
>---->Yes, please, I would love a keychain...my favorite colours are black
>and silver
>but I'm not picky.  I live in Canada, is that a problem?  etc...(see above)
>Thanks:)
>Michele
>
Me too! Please! Green and blue would be good if possible. Oh yes, is being in 
the UK going to be a problem for posting?
Ailsa.
 
moving to areid-+AT+-brookes.ac.uk next week

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:05:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Wildfire <wildfire-+AT+-roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Big Time Braid
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960701110008.17537D-100000-+AT+-roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>

On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Lady Windsong wrote:
[snip]
> One last thing, I finally got the time to read _Oathbound_ (on the plane
> flight home) and I was really upset to find that the story of their meeting
> was only to be found in Sword and Sorceress III.  Now I *can't* get that
> here. Could you all please keep an eye out for it for me please? I'll be
> eternally grateful to you all.  Thank you all so much.

Well, m'lady, I've managed to find not one, but *three* copies of S&SIII 
in 2 used bookstores last week - I can most probably get you one this 
coming Wednesday (if it's still available, of course) and pass it to you 
when I get back to Singapore. Please email me back confirming whether 
you'd like me to get it (I dunno if someone else has replied to your 
request or not).

Cheers,
Wildfire

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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 96 17:06:25 +0200
From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: re: Death
Message-ID: <9607011506.AA18208-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl>

Rynath wrote:

>>As someone who nearly died a couple of months ago and still recovering, I can
>>say that I am not scared of death.
>
> It's funny, neither am I.  When I'm at a funeral and such, my family thinks
> I'm strange.  Sure, I'm sad for the fact that the person who passed away
> isn't *here* and we won't be able to deal with them anymore, but I never
> have gotten all weepy and collapsed and choked up.  
> 
Hang on there a minute - I was fine about my Dad dying - he was sick, weary,
in pain - he'd had enough and he wanted to die. And die he did, at home, with
my mother, me and my sister all with him. It was dignified, and as positive a
death as I've come across. I was fine. 

Until the funeral. My mother and I had written the speech together with her 
minister, the cousins had made it, I was coping - until they started to 
trundle the coffin away behind that damned curtain. My Mum grabbed my hand, 
and I was in trouble - that was my Daddy in there, my big strong Daddy who'd
always been there for me. But he wasn't anymore. I wasn't go to see him ever 
again. 

I didn't cry because I was afraid - I cried for me, I cried for my Mum, I
cried 'cos I'd lost an important part of my life. If I was frightened of 
anything, it was "How is my mum going to cope after 40 odd years of marriage 
to being without him?"

Anyhow I'm getting all teary again, so I'll hang up 

groetjes,
Esmeralda Evensbane


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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:40:26 -0400
From: Robbie Betts <Betts-+AT+-kkinet.kki.jhu.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Party, top 10 
Message-ID: <s1d7b649.084-+AT+-kkinet.kki.jhu.edu>

>>>>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:33:42 -0700
From: hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Braided
Message-ID:
<199607010233.TAA28156-+AT+-m4.sprynet.com>

First of all, HAPPY BLUE MOON EVERYBODY!!!!!

Next, this segment mainly applies to those of you
who live close to the central  portion of the
east coast of the U.S. SpiritBlade, Sylver Dove
and I are  throwing a barbeque/pool party in
Misty's honor on July 13th. It will be held in 
Severn, Maryland, which is located between
Baltimore and D.C. near Odenton and  Fort Meade.
We're just crazy enough to invite people we've
only been cyber  introduced to, (what fun is life
with out any crazy ideas and occasional risks?) 
so if any of you local regulars on the list are
interested in the details,  e-mail me privately
at hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com  (Murders, rapists,
arsonists and all  other forms of generally
violent people excluded from this offer!)
<<<<


Well, I might come, but I#ve been certified
*SANE* enough to operate a nuclear reactor by the
USN (was an ET Nuke)... does this make me
crazy????


>>>>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:00:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Cc: 75051.2440-+AT+-compuserve.com, jancivan-+AT+-aol.com,
100104.550-+AT+-compuserve.com,
Subject: New Top Ten List (lost count of number)
Message-ID:
<1.5.4.16.19960701100351.27a79c18-+AT+-webspan.net>

...Major snip...
2.   ... when you get upset over the fact that
your sets of
     trilogies don't *match.*

     YOU: "I hate it!  On my bookshelf I have a
paperback
     version of _Black Gryphon_... a small
hardback version
     of _White Gryphon_...  and a large hardback
version of
     _Silver Gryphon!_ The set doesn't match! I
can't put the
     whole set together on the shelf!  Aaaieee!"

     YOUR FRIEND: "Relax!  Jeez, it's only
*books.*"

<<<< It#s never *only books*!!!!!!
I#m just starting over and they are like my
children!!!!!




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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:36:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carrie MacDonald <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: The naming of Gods
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.91.960701083520.16064A-100000-+AT+-deepthought.armory.com>

> Cennydd wrote:
> > I challenge!!!!!  There can be no Goddess of the Mists save she who has 
> > created Velgarth!  Of course, Goddess of Things Unseen is another 
> > matter.  I would certainly vote for Morgana as Goddess of Things Unseen.  
> > After all, she is the Queen of Air and Darkness (ref. contest = 5 points 
> > [too easy]).
> 
> Damn.. I know this one too, got a complete mental block. Morgana Le' 
> Faye, Queen of the Fairies but I can't cudgel my mind into remembering
> whether it's Tennyson or Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.
> <sigh> That doesn't count I guess. :)
> 
I think it was Malory who wrote it..... :)

	Morgana


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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:00:25 -0600 (CST)
From: MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Crossover/Amber
Message-ID: <01I6K162G1A0003GQU-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US>

YEs, I am an active Amber-ite... but I have NO earthly IDEA what I am doing... right now I'm a growing boy who will be 18 as soon as school starts again... currently I am about 10... Last month I was a newborn... confusing... eh? I play Dulcinor btw.

			Fireheart
			God of New Homes
			Dispenser of the Eternal Contact Paper
			Owner of the Everlating Housewarming Basket

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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:04:27 -0600 (CST)
From: MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid:  Pink Wand/Fear of Death
Message-ID: <01I6K1BDICVI003GQU-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US>

Forgive my stupidity... but what is the Curse of the Pink Wand? I am CONFUSED..... Thanks,.
			Fireheart
			God of New Homes
			Dispenser of the Eternal Contact Paper
			Owner of the Everlasting Housewarming Basket

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carrie MacDonald <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: The naming of Gods
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.91.960701091312.17788A-100000-+AT+-deepthought.armory.com>


> > Cennydd wrote:
> > > I challenge!!!!!  There can be no Goddess of the Mists save she who has 
> > > created Velgarth!  Of course, Goddess of Things Unseen is another 
> > > matter.  I would certainly vote for Morgana as Goddess of Things Unseen.  
> > > After all, she is the Queen of Air and Darkness (ref. contest = 5 points 
> > > [too easy]).
> > 
> > Damn.. I know this one too, got a complete mental block. Morgana Le' 
> > Faye, Queen of the Fairies but I can't cudgel my mind into remembering
> > whether it's Tennyson or Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.
> > <sigh> That doesn't count I guess. :)
> > 
> I think it was Malory who wrote it..... :)
> 
> 	Morgana
> 
Opps, I think he wrote the Faire Queen. :)


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960701123654.12677A-100000-+AT+-little-miami.iac.net>

heyla all!

i'm a newbie so please forgive my gaffes in advance :)

about Ma'ar:
	in SR, when An'desha is looking at his memories "Ma'ar, the 
orginal of all the incarnations, had been one of the craftiest wizards of 
all time." (p.105) and later, "In fact, if An'desha went all the back to 
the source of the memories, the adept called Ma'ar..."(p.107).

if anyone's interest has been piqued by the wicca/witchcraft thread, you 
may want to read _drawing down the moon_ by margot adler. contains 
interviews with and explores the beliefs of many wiccan and neo-pagan groups.

and thank you kindly for the chocolates Lady. if i may be so bold as to 
offer everyone a delicious waterlily ice as a palate refresher? it's the 
perfect treat for a sweltering summer's day.
		
		damply,
		undine

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: Clarissa Smith/Claris Boii <ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Crossover/Amber
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.960701115208.12500B-100000-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>

On Mon, 1 Jul 1996 MO9605-+AT+-DSCC.CC.TN.US wrote:

> YEs, I am an active Amber-ite... but I have NO earthly IDEA what I am
> doing... right now I'm a growing boy who will be 18 as soon as school
> starts again... currently I am about 10... Last month I was a newborn...
> confusing... eh? I play Dulcinor btw. 
> 
> 			Fireheart
 Well, I don't have any idea either.  My character is called Sorrow, and
he's an adult, thank you... Look me up, we'll start our *own* plotline
<g>.

Airelle, I got your art, thank you, and I brought my copy card to campus
today, but alack left my notebook at home... <beats head against wall>...

These trysting feathers are marvelous, now I just gotta find someone to
attach 'em to.  (Unfortunately, I don't know any guys who are really into
Misty.)  Volunteers....? ;>

Cenydd's quote has me confused.  I know I know the source, but I keep
stumbling into quotes about Titania, and getting lost.  Argh.
--Claris/Rythkana


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:57:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Ian Macdonald (CS)" <ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960701105447.147A-100000-+AT+-oathbound.ed.ac.uk>

On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Sarah Worley wrote:

> 	Would personal shields guard against Fetching?
Not really know the in and out of how feching works (who does *grin*)
I would guess that since fetching must magic, then personal sheilds which 
should stop magic should stop fetchin. 

they certainly stoped farsight, (Arrows fall the battle at the end with a 
mage)

Just me thoughts


Ian


< all of a sudden a whisper of sound occurs then the sound of a body hitting 
 a keyboard. "Good thing we had darts", one of the white coated men said to 
 the other as they dragged ian's body from the terminal.>  
<At home where the men in white coats can't get him> < ism-+AT+-tardis.ed.ac.uk >


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:29:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: The naming of Gods
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960701132311.13142A-100000-+AT+-little-miami.iac.net>



> > > 
> > > Damn.. I know this one too, got a complete mental block. Morgana Le' 
> > > Faye, Queen of the Fairies but I can't cudgel my mind into remembering
> > > whether it's Tennyson or Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.
> > > <sigh> That doesn't count I guess. :)
> > > 
> > I think it was Malory who wrote it..... :)
> > 
> > 	Morgana
> > 
> Opps, I think he wrote the Faire Queen. :)
> 
FYI Edmund Spenser wrote _the Faerie Queen_ and Thomas Malory wrote _Le 
Morte d'Arthur. owning a bookstore creates a mind full of trivia :)
		damply (our air conditioning is on the fritz :( )
		Undine 

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:46:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Megan Stingl Hale <mshale-+AT+-artsci.wustl.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc...
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960701124121.15144D-100000-+AT+-papaya>

Hello All! I am amazingly new to this list and so along with this I am
(almost but not totally) hopelessly confused!  Could someone please aqaint
me with the details of the deification process and some toher basic
occurences so that I know more about that is flurring all around me !  I'm
excited about this and desperately wish to understand. 
					--megan
I've got to change this name of mine, horribly plain isn't it?!


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:03:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Megan Stingl Hale <mshale-+AT+-artsci.wustl.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: The naming of Gods
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960701130139.15144E-100000-+AT+-papaya>



On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Carrie MacDonald wrote:

> 
> > > Cennydd wrote:
> > > > I challenge!!!!!  There can be no Goddess of the Mists save she who has 
> > > > created Velgarth!  Of course, Goddess of Things Unseen is another 
> > > > matter.  I would certainly vote for Morgana as Goddess of Things Unseen.  
> > > > After all, she is the Queen of Air and Darkness (ref. contest = 5 points 
> > > > [too easy]).
> > > 
> > > Damn.. I know this one too, got a complete mental block. Morgana Le' 
> > > Faye, Queen of the Fairies but I can't cudgel my mind into remembering
> > > whether it's Tennyson or Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.
> > > <sigh> That doesn't count I guess. :)
> > > 
> > I think it was Malory who wrote it..... :)
> > 
> > 	Morgana
> > 
> Opps, I think he wrote the Faire Queen. :)
> 
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l I know is that it wasn't shakespeare-- that
> was titania (oberon's wife and queen)  I think that morgana must be
> right, because tennyson just ems off them mark
			megan


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:05:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Wildfire <wildfire-+AT+-roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Sadly puzzled...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960701134635.17537I-100000-+AT+-roundtable.cif.rochester.edu>

Heyla all...

<*gentle* complaint> 

Hmm...is it something I did? Or something I didn't do? Whatever? Last week
I posted my request for ideas/comments/suggestions/etc for my idea of a
Valdemar webpage and got only 4-5 replies in the last 5 days (thanks to
those who *did* reply BTW), amidst the tons of mail on all kinds of
(forgive me) off-topic stuff. I'm getting discouraged here - looks like 
most of you do not think it was such a good or interesting idea afterall...
p'rhaps next time when "inspiration" strikes I'll crawl into a hole or 
something and wait till it passes...

(There. Got that off my chest. Now I'm feeling slightly better. :) )

</*gentle* complaint>

Peace, 
Wildfire, who's feeling even more depressed than usual after reading, on
the recommendation of many on this list, something of GGK's (The Lions of
Al-Rassan, to be precise)...read the whole book in 14hours non-stop... 
<sigh>..."Even the sun goes down"... (now I'll have to go hunt for the
other 5 books and have a good "wallow" - they're "sad" too, are they not?
I *love* "sad", tragic books - in them...)




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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:59:52 -0400
From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc...
Message-ID: <960701145951_146795951-+AT+-emout17.mail.aol.com>

>I've got to change this name of mine, horribly plain isn't it?!

Would you like a list of Hawkbrther names that are not found in the books? (I
made them up myself. Aren't you proud? <g>) Also, they probably aren't taken
(unless one of the people I gave them to decides to choose the same name).

I'll always forgive you but never forget you,
Lady Nightshadow aka Shady
Goddess of Forgiveness - Have yet to be named

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:59:57 -0400
From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover
Message-ID: <960701145953_146795930-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com>

>I would guess that since fetching must magic, then personal sheilds which 
>should stop magic should stop fetchin. 

Unless someone was fetching a sharp object into them or fetching it outside
of their shield then throwing it. Shields (unless specifically guarding
against a physical attack) wouldn't stop it. Right?

I'll always forgive you but never forget you,
Lady Nightshadow aka Shady
Goddess of Forgiveness - Have yet to be named

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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:40:06 -0400
From: Barbara Slater  <SLATERB-+AT+-smtpgw2.musc.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Hello to Megan!!!
Message-ID: <s1d7e46a.044-+AT+-smtpgw2.musc.edu>

Megan,

Welcome to the local cyber-madhouse!  The deification process is one that I'm avoiding - that way, I don't have semi-serious
syncophants bugging me at all hours of the days - BTW (by the way), this same state of harmonious bliss can be achieved by turning
off the ringers on the telephone!  Salesmen and other slavering sillies can't reach you then...

I'm a semi-lurker on the list, and am still learning how to do things.  There's a lot of really nice people here, and a reasonable level of
humor, although we can get into some rather serious subjects.  Cennydd has taught us the Need for textevd (textural evidence), and
there's a goodly amount of teasing and verbal leg-pulling that goes on (politely, of course!).  You'll have to ask the others about the
various groups that are sprinkled around the cyberscape here; I'm still trying to find the scorecard!  I think there's a FAQ around here
somewhere...

I _like_ your name! Mine's kind of lumpish, but yours sounds spritely!  Have fun!

Barbara the sigless wonder
Curator and Inmate of the Frogmore Zoo
slaterb-+AT+-musc.edu



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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:08:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Misty FAQ
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960701151024.2bdf10f8-+AT+-webspan.net>

Alright.  Mel and Kory were discussing about how there's no Misty FAQ, and
how it's too much work for Mel to do herself.

I'm willing to tackle it.  Anyone with any ideas as to what should go into
it, please privately e-mail me at rynath-+AT+-webspan.net.  People will be
credited in the final version... I'm still working on what should go into
it, but with some work I think we can outdistance the Wheel of Ridic... I
mean Wheel of Time FAQ.

E-mail me with ideas!  Let's get rolling!



Stars Bright Thy Path (And Forever Guide Thee True):

Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>		. "The stroke of death is a lover's pinch
Just a mortal -- not a God		.   Which hurts, and is desired."
Keeper of the scrolls of Misty Humor	.  -=- William Shakespeare -=-
http://www.webspan.net/~rynath		.  Antony and Cleopatra V, ii.



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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:21:57 -0400
From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Which CD to get?
Message-ID: <960701152156_146810408-+AT+-emout19.mail.aol.com>

I was just looking through Firebird's Website to see how much the CD's cost
and now I would like to get one. Which one should I get? Which is the best?
(I'll likely be getting more but I would like to know which would be the best
to start out with) Opinions/suggestions appreciated.

I'll always forgive you but never forget you,
Lady Nightshadow aka Shady
Goddess of Forgiveness - Have yet to be named

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:31:01 +0000
From: "Vrondi" <deanca-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sadly puzzled...
Message-ID: <199607011826.OAA14111-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu>

Wildfire: I happen to have been suffering from a crashed mail server 
last week and therfore missed your origional post.  I think the 
Valdemar Web Page is a terrific idea.  There are entirely too few 
Misty-related things on the net.



-Vrondi,(soon to be named) "Mistress of the Air, One With the Trees"
 a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole         a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean
________________________________________
http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/
________________________________________
  ==\\
     |8|           |\   
     |8|   __  o|    
     |8|  (__)       
     |8|  |__|    
     |8|_|__|
     \____/


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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 15:38:09 -0400
From: Barbara Slater  <SLATERB-+AT+-smtpgw2.musc.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc... - Reply
Message-ID: <s1d7f229.032-+AT+-smtpgw2.musc.edu>

Megan said:
>>I've got to change this name of mine, horribly plain isn't it?!

Lady Nightshadow replied:
>Would you like a list of Hawkbrother names that are not found in the books? (I made them up myself. Aren't you proud? <g>) Also,
they probably aren't taken (unless one of the people I gave them to decides to choose the same name).

I'm asking:
Is there a similar list of Shin'a'nin (sp?) names? I'd like a Velgarthan identity, and definitely love horses!  If I can swing it, I'm going to
swap barnwork for riding lessons this summer.  I've never really had a chance to get ~used~ to being around horses before; y'know, the
way they look (I never knew horses had whiskers until I was 21!) and the size of them, the way they move and react to things, the way
they sound (and smell)...Gen-u-ine city slicker here, the kind who flips out over little cottontails hopping around the backyard. 
Luckily, my big brother taught me about birds and snakes and frogs and lizards and spiders and ants and trees...He couldn't quite
manage a horse, though.  Never met one himself.  I've cooked up a nice farm (on paper) - might be fun to translate it into Valdemar.
I've done my homework on sheep and goats and cows and pigs and chickens and herbs and berries and grain and ... but I'd really like to
raise horses!

Is there a set of requirements for being a good farmer in Valdemar?

Barbara the sigless wonder
Curator and Inmate of the Frogmore Zoo
slaterb-+AT+-musc.edu



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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:43:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Which CD to get?
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960701164519.21df7f30-+AT+-webspan.net>

At 09:06 PM 7/1/96 +0100, you wrote:
>I was just looking through Firebird's Website to see how much the CD's cost
>and now I would like to get one. Which one should I get? Which is the best?
>(I'll likely be getting more but I would like to know which would be the best
>to start out with) Opinions/suggestions appreciated.
>
>I'll always forgive you but never forget you,
>Lady Nightshadow aka Shady
>Goddess of Forgiveness - Have yet to be named
>
>

Heyla, Shady

If you want to get more filk, but can't, I'll trade tapes if you like.  If
you buya CD, get SHADOW STALKER. It's the best one.

Stars Bright Thy Path (And Forever Guide Thee True):

Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>		. "The stroke of death is a lover's pinch
Just a mortal -- not a God		.   Which hurts, and is desired."
Keeper of the scrolls of Misty Humor	.  -=- William Shakespeare -=-
http://www.webspan.net/~rynath		.  Antony and Cleopatra V, ii.



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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 16:08:42 -0500
From: Tammy Harris <TAMARAH-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: french braid!
Message-ID: <1F54C7C0AAD-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu>

Greetings, all!

I know there are several threads I want to reply to, but odds are, 
I'll forget half of them.  But then, you already know what my 
memory's like.  Sigh.  (Yes, 'Reesa, I know it's the second thing to 
go.  I forget what the first is, though.)

#1:  Welcome to all our new members.  We're a little odd, but you'll 
get used to us.  We don't bite.  (Well, not too often! <grin>)  We're 
really friendly, but we tend to get awfully chatty.
=============================================

#2:  Wildfire, I'm sorry if you felt neglected or upset that people didn't 
reply to your idea about a Misty webpage.  (Personally, if someone 
says what I had planned to say, I don't waste the bandwidth repeating 
it.)  For myself, I'd love to have one, if there's not any problems 
with copyright, which I suggest you check, before putting a lot of 
effort into it.  Just MHO (my humble opinion).
=============================================

#3:  I don't really fear my own death, it's other people's I have a 
problem with.  When my grandmother passed away, I knew she was better 
off wherever she was, but I missed her.  I didn't grieve for her, but 
for myself.  Granted, I hope my own is many years away, but what I 
dread is losing the people I love.
=============================================

#4:  As for this death by fetching thing, y'all certainly *do* have a 
morbid streak, don't you!  And really, what's wrong with the 
old-fashioned methods, arsenic, cyanide, knives, guns?  Use fetching, 
and people will have an awfully good idea who was responsible. : )
==============================================

#5:  Lady Nightshadow, I highly recommend Misty's Shadowstalker CD.  
I have 3 or 4 now, and SS is the one I like the best.

Well, that's it for me.  It's quitting time!  Time to make like a 
tree and get out of here! : )

Tammy



"It's time to ask yourself what you believe"

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:52:08 -0400
From: David Snyder <khethael-+AT+-bridge.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Morgana/new books
Message-ID: <199607011952.PAA08036-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net>

At 05:54 AM 7/1/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Cennydd wrote:
>>I would certainly vote for Morgana as Goddess of Things Unseen.  
>> After all, she is the Queen of Air and Darkness (ref. contest = 5 points 
>> [too easy]).
>Damn.. I know this one too, got a complete mental block. Morgana Le' 
>Faye, Queen of the Fairies but I can't cudgel my mind into remembering
>whether it's Tennyson or Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream.
><sigh> That doesn't count I guess. :)
>Kerry. <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>
*********************
Neither, it was T.H. White, The Once and Future King.  I didn't like that
version of Morgan LeFay, but then again, my favorite version of her is from
MZB, of course. However, if you want a surprise with an awful cover, Persia
Wooley's trilogy, Child of the Northern Spring; Queen of the Summer Stars;
and Guenivere, Lady in Autumn was the best version of Gwen I've ever seen,
she was all Celtic Queen, and not the simpering betrayer that she's usually
portrayed as.

What are you waiting for, go read it!!!!!

Oh, one other thing, Michelle West wrote a couple of books, Hunter's Oath,
and it's sequel, Hunter's Death, which (so far) are wonderful!!!  I'm almost
done with Death, and it's moved me to tears once already, go get 'em!!
Lady Thessaly           " I used to be bad when I was a kid
Goddess of Nomenclature  but ever since then I have gone straight
MKGC                     as I can prove by my record--33 arrests and
Lady in Green            no convictions."  Big Jule, (Damon Runyon)


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:16:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: The naming of Gods
Message-ID: <199607012216.SAA06629-+AT+-victory.soonet.ca>

On July 1, you wrote:
 
>FYI Edmund Spenser wrote _the Faerie Queen_ and Thomas Malory wrote _Le 
>Morte d'Arthur. owning a bookstore creates a mind full of trivia :)
>		damply (our air conditioning is on the fritz :( )
>		Undine 
>
>It must be wonderful to own a bookstore.  It's always been a dream of 
mine, but I know I'd never be successful at it.  The people give me 
money part, that I like.  The people take away the books part, well, I
don't know, they might have a fight on their hands!  Besides, who'd want
to want to shop at a store where the owner sobs pitifully when you try to
leave with your purchase?
 
Nice meeting you:)
Michele



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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:02:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: owning a bookstore
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960701185324.347A-100000-+AT+-wabash.iac.net>

hi Michelle!
owning a bookstore has its good and bad points. fortunately the good 
outway the bad! one of the best parts is getting to see order forms so 
that i can (in theory) plan my reading list. and of course since i unpack 
the shipments i get to touch and eyeprint all of the new goodies that 
come in!

the bad parts are that it's a tough way to make a living. as of today, 
i've owned it for one, whole, long, glorious tearfilled year and i've 
taken maybe 7 paychecks. sigh. 

the other bad part is you realize just how ignorant and prejudiced people 
can be. "I don't believe in censorship, but..." is one of my most hated 
customer sentences. :I

having whined, let me say that i wouldn't do anything else. i hope to turn 
into a wizened old book gnome still peddling misty's books when i'm 89!

		damply ('though the ac is fixed!)
		undine


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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:31:12 -0400
From: Sarah Worley <dassin-+AT+-ist.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: french braid!
Message-ID: <199607012331.TAA03810-+AT+-ist.net>

On July 1, Tammy wrote:
> #4:  As for this death by fetching thing, y'all certainly *do* have a 
> morbid streak, don't you!  And really, what's wrong with the 
> old-fashioned methods, arsenic, cyanide, knives, guns?  Use fetching, 
> and people will have an awfully good idea who was responsible. : )

	Aww.. But its so much more interestesting! And if its really subtle,
theres no need for anyone to know it was done by Fetching. Use it to say..
Fetch a small pebble into someone's brain.. it looks like a stroke. If you
have really good control, drop a sharp edge (razor) into someone's lung and
make sure it penetrates the wall. Likewise with the heart. 
	There are a multitude of ways to be very subtle and have very 
large results. 

	Otherwise.. I'll take my knives. 

> #5:  Lady Nightshadow, I highly recommend Misty's Shadowstalker CD.  
> I have 3 or 4 now, and SS is the one I like the best.

	Ok, I was just sitting down to order this CD (among others) from
Firebird, and I noticed: "Oathbreakers CD Pre-order $15.00". (and seeing
as this was one of the CDs I was going to order) I have to ask.. 
"Pre-order"? Of what are they refering to?

Zhai'hai'allav'a
	Dass

dassin-+AT+-ist.net				Even evil magicians get up in the night
http://www.dassin.org/			and look for cookies, sometimes. 

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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:54:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Braid:  Pink Wand/Fetching/Barbara/Shin'a'in/Farming
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960701215329.10464A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Fireheart wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Braid: Pink Wand/Fear of Death

>>>Forgive my stupidity... but what is the Curse of the Pink Wand? I am 
CONFUSED..... Thanks,.<<<

"The Curse of the Pink Wand" is a term used in the gay community to refer 
to the tendency some women have of falling in love with gay men.  If you 
have ever seen the film, "Clueless," you know what this looks like.  
Cher's relationship with Christian is classic.  She is busy praising him 
to all her friends and going on about he never even looks at any girls 
but her, and he is busy flirting with cute boys and dropping bobby pins 
all over the place.  Clues for miles, girlfriend!  Anyway, I am not sure 
if Melenna really qualifies for victim of the CotPW.  Usually, you have 
to have a string of such relationships before you are really considered 
cursed.  On the other hand, for elapse time, she prob holds the record, 
so maybe she does count as a victim.  

-----EOM

On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Ian Macdonald wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Death and the Shadow-Lover

>>>I would guess that since fetching must magic, then personal sheilds which 
should stop magic should stop fetchin.<<<

Except that we know that fetching isn't magic.  It is another kind of 
Herald mind-magic.  Doesn't someone say, at some point, that magical 
shields are not particularly effective against mind-magic?  I am at the 
office right now, so I can't look it up (books-+AT+-home, of course).

-----EOM

On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Barbara Slater wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Hello to Megan!!!

>>>I _like_ your name! Mine's kind of lumpish, but yours sounds 
spritely!<<<

HEY!  I like the name Barbara!  It is my mother's name and I have always 
thought it was a beautiful and interesting name.  It means "stranger" or 
"outsider" and is from the same root as the word "barbarian."  To me, the 
name Barbara conjures up images of the proud Celtic women who defied the 
Romans and won their admiration for their bravery and beauty.  So there!

(Ok, Barbara also conjures up visions of M&M's, beautiful hand-made 
quilts, and endless gardens of gorgeous flowers, herbs, and vegetables.  
But that ain't bad either.)

-----EOM

On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Barbara Slater wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re:Vrondi's sig/GM/DM/welcome/etc... - Reply

>>>Is there a similar list of Shin'a'nin (sp?) names?<<<

I will clearly have to get cracking on that analysis of Shin'a'in and 
Tayledras.  Well, fortunately my class will be over on the 6th and I will 
have some time to work on it.

>>>Is there a set of requirements for being a good farmer in Valdemar?<<<

A sense of humor, fatalism, love of the land, and the flat refusal to be 
beaten.  About the same as the requirements to be a farmer in the real 
world.  My grandfather always described our families refusal to be beaten 
as "if somebody broke every bone in your body and told you to stay down, 
you would still wiggle your pinky at them!"  My family spent a lot of 
time wiggling our pinky at nature and all the adversities thereof.  Even 
in the urban world, we still do it.  

That is what farming is all about: not giving up.  Most of the time, you 
live on the ragged edge of disaster and it seems like nature has it in 
for you.  But then you look out in the morning and see the mist rising 
off the fields and rolling up the mountains, or you sit out on the porch 
at night and watch the fireflies and listen to the kneeker-breekers, or 
you go wandering through the woods in the winter to gather sap for maple 
sugar and it is all cold and still and silent, and you realize that 
everything is worth it.  Or sometimes, you just stand there and feel the 
land filling you up and wrapping your soul in itself and it is 
wonderful.  Can you tell that I miss it?  My family was finally forced 
to leave our farm by economics when I was a kid.  However, because my 
parents chose to leave before things were completely impossible, we were 
able to keep most of the farm and only sell a very tiny bit.  Which means 
that our family's land is still waiting for us.  We go back and visit it 
when we can and I know that my sister and I both are planning to retire 
to it (there is room for both of us *grin*).  There is a wonderful 
Mexican song that says it perfectly.  It is on Tish Hinojosa's "Aquella 
Noche" album and the words to the chorus are:

Tu que puedes, vuelvete  /  "You who can, come back,"
Me dijo el rio llorando  /  The weeping river said to me.
Y los cerros que tanto quieres  /  "And the mountains that you love so much,"
Me dijo  /  It told me,
Alla estan esperando  /  "Are waiting there."

The first time I heard this song, I started to cry.  I could hear the 
mountains and fields of my home calling.

Oh Dear, I had prob better stop now or I am going to start crying again.  



May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Quand tu entendras le vent dans la vallee,
Que tu verras l'aigle en liberte,
Que tu sentiras le printemps venir en toi,
Ce sera moi, ce sera moi.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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