MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 675

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Mammoth Braid
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  2) Braid:  FamReunions/Michael/Rehoboth/Age
	by Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  3) Re: A Whole Wide World of Misty
	by Carolyn Taylor <ctaylor-+AT+-bmi.net>
  4) Re: Macs'n'Fish'n'stuff
	by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
  5) All of us young people
	by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
  6) Re: Braid: Names/bacteria/bookstores/gaki
	by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
  7) Re: Introverts/Exotic Clothing
	by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
  8) Re: Yet another braid - but Misty related! <g>
	by kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com (Herald Michal)
  9) Re:names/Esmerelda's sig/Cecilia
	by Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
 10) Re: Jakes Lists
	by Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
 11) another nifty braid
	by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
 12) Re: owning a bookstore
	by Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
 13) This, that, and the other
	by Tammy Harris <TAMARAH-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu>
 14) Re: Fire Rose/lifebonds
	by Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
 15) Re: owning a bookstore
	by Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mammoth Braid
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960711123356.281f9082-+AT+-webspan.net>

Arielle wrote:

>Jake asked:
>>Alright, who's going this month from the East Coast?  I plan to go (just got
>>the directions from our wonderful Herald Housemother] since it's only two
>>hours from my home.  Just curious if anyone else out here is...

>We'll be there! I guess I should clarify that the "We'll" includes Arielle, 
>Sylver Dove and SpiritBlade, subject of Micheal Weber, God of Lurkers.

Alright!  Now, I'm going to come hell or water that reaches up to an extreme
level.

()$)-+AT+-#$&$)(-+AT+-(!!#&^$-+AT+-^#*&^*)_!)*$(*%*#*-+AT+-#($*%&#)-+AT+-)_!)#($*%^-+AT+-%!%~

>>From Jake: >Anyhow, welcome to our nightmare.. I mean friendly discussion..

>>From Korendil: >Gods, Jake! You have to be more careful! I mean, we can't
have 
>>the newbies be scared off before we have a chance to boil the--erm, before we 
>>have a chance to boil a few eggs for them! yes, that's it!!!!!<---.....

>Perhaps it's actually a good thing Jake gives a gentle warning that this
can be 
>a pretty strange place sometimes. After all, this isn't always the right place 
>for the faint of heart with delicate sensibilities! <weg>

That's right.  <grin>  This mailing list is a dangerous place for the
uninitiated.  

To all the newcomers: *singing* "Wilkommen, Bienvenue, Welcome..."  to the
Mailing list... it is kind of odd and kind of weird in its lovable sort of
way, and it's filled with all sorts of interesting and wonderful people who
only occasionally go completely bonkers about things on the list.  The list
isn't REALLY like the way it's been this past week.  We're worse! <grin> No,
actually, we're terrible, but that's only because Misty hasn't written any
new books lately.  So come, pull a chair up by the fire and grab a flagon of
mulled wine.  We're glad you're here.

)$^%-+AT+-%$!%$&$&-+AT+-*(*-+AT+-$)_+*$*-+AT+-#)-+AT+-(!~(!#&-+AT+-#*)#*-+AT+-(-+AT+-(#&$&(-+AT+-)(-+AT+-*&

>>From Jake:
>>Queen's Own (The Mercedes Lackey Fan Club) mailing day (where we go over the
>>coordinator's home and help mail out the newsletters.]  I said *East* Coast,
>>perhaps I should have meant New England, because the place where we go is in
>>New Jersey.  Sure, those in Florida and Washington, can go, but it's a heck
>>of a trip...

>Actually, it wouldn't be to far for people in the DC area. Two of the longtime 
>mailing day regulars, Helen and Rusty, are from the DC area and it only takes 
>them two hours to get to Shiloh as well. We live in one of the suburbs of 
>Baltimore and it only took us about an hour and 45 minutes to get there last 
>time, and we even hit a spot of traffic on the way!

And it's two hours from Staten Island, New York!  Two and change, actually,
but if I go, it'll probably be three, because I'm as good with directions as
Herald Lores is with common sense.

**$**-+AT+-(-+AT+-)&$)!!^$^-+AT+-#($*%))_^_&)%#(-+AT+-^#^~(+$)-+AT+-*&$&!*!(($^-+AT+-&&$*-+AT+-(!)&%-+AT+-^%$*#

>Also from Korendil:

No, Arielle. This piece is from Jake.

>>What I've read of [SERRAted Edge]
>>it so far is uninspired, but that's because she doesn't write them herself.
>>MISTY, KEEP LARRY OUT OF YOUR WORD PROCESSOR! Thank you.

>I'm not sure what I tink of Larry helping Misty write. 
>Here's a quote from Larry taken from the October issue of Queen's Own:
>"I've been working with Misty on prose since and including Magic's Price,
which 
>I co-plotted and alpha-edited. 

Co-plotted.  That meant helping with the storyline, right?  And alpha-edited
meant reading it over, I gander, for errors and such.  But he didn't really
write whole sections of it.  :)  That's what I mean by that.

>Incidentally, it was accepted by DAW exactly as 
>it was printed; there were no revisions or mispe... misspel...uhm... words 
>spelled wrong. Since then I've worked on them all, with heavier co-writing on 
>Winds of Fate and Jinx High."

Ooh.  </sarcasm> Winds of Fate and Jinx High--two Misty classics! <grin>
</sarcasmoff> Does that mean Larry's also going to help out on Triangle
Park? :(  I am going to have to dig out my October QO and take a look at
this interview.

>Appearently he's helped her on much more than he takes credit for! Some of
them 
>were even really good books! Though I must admit I think most of the novels he 
>is credited for are inferior to those that Misty supposedly writes herself. 

Indeed.  Maybe Misty puts his name on them for an excuse, because she knows
they are weak, and so she can lay the blame on Larry <g>.  Or maybe they're
ghostwritten <grins even larger> ... 

Peace and Balance ...

Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
Misty Humor and FAQ archivist ~ http://www.webspan.net/~rynath

"Just be sure to always be on guard and watch for the
unexpectAAAAAaaaaaaaaagh....."
-- Dr. Who (Tom Baker)



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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:03:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Braid:  FamReunions/Michael/Rehoboth/Age
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960710140234.1523A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Mishi wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: keyrings and family reunions

>>>I was just curious if anyone else on the list has family reunions? We 
just had ours and I think I Know how Vanyel feels when he went to visit 
his family.<<<

I hear ya!  I have very vivid memories of a family reunion for my mom's 
family.  I ended up sitting outside, on the trunk of a car, in the rain, 
because I couldn't stand to be inside the madhouse any longer.  My mom's 
brothers and sister were driving me up the wall!  The hilarious part is 
that my mom came out and joined me for a while.  She needed a breather 
too!  So we just sat there and got wet and let our shoulders relax down 
to their normal positions (we both have problems with rising shoulders 
when we are stressed).  Of course, when we finally went back in, my aunt 
became unhinged because we were wet and she was sure that we would do our 
health a mischief.

>>>Well, big families are typical in our family so right now I think there 
are 6 or 7 core groups with about 15 - 20 memebers in each group. We are 
all a bit insane.<<< 

Actually, this sounds more like my dad's family reunions when I was a 
kid.  The last Weimer reunion had over 200 people at it and we were all 
certifiable.  Oddly enough, I found those reunions (the Weimer ones) to 
be much less stressful.  I guess it is cause my mom's family is mostly 
very blue-collar urban (which is odd since they are all white-collar 
workers) while my dad's family is old-time farm folks.  I find that 
really old-fashioned farming families tend to be a lot less stressful 
than modern urban working class.

-----EOM  

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Miyako-san wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Names

>>>Okey-dokey, I thought Michael was the one who defeated the REBEL ANGELS!
Feedback, please.<<<

You are right.  St-Georges was the one who defeated the dragon.  He 
wasn't an angel.  Michael the Archangel is the warrior angel who was the 
general of the heavenly hosts during the War of the Angels.  IIRC, he is 
the chief of the Dominions.

-----EOM

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Mishi wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Another Braid

>>>surf at Rehobeth (I know that's not spelled right) Beach in Delaware.<<<

It is spelled Rehoboth (for anyone who is interested *grin*).  One of 
these days I am going to have to get down there.  I am not really a beach 
person (except for making sandcastles), but I would love to visit all the 
cool bookstores and boutiques.  Not to mention the fact that they have 
some wonderful bistros and tratorie. 

ObMisty: I wonder where Valdemarans go for vacation?  Maybe someone could 
start a lovely beach resort on the shores of Lake Evendim!  A couple of 
luxurious hostelries, some fabu little B&B's run by cute shaych couples, 
and lots of boutiques and shops filled with gorgeous little things from 
underdeveloped Third-World countries!

-----EOM

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Kimber wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Braid For A Day

>>>I'll join the ranks of the 20-somethings here...  I'm 22 (23
in a couple of months- gifts are welcome *grin*)<<<

Hmmmm.  Well, my age depends on who I am talking to.  I am actually 29 
(this is known as twenty-very-something), but I occasionally admit to 
being 647yo.  And of course, no-one knows exactly how old the Mage of 
Green Silences is, but his age is conservatively estimated to around 
1,000 years and may be significantly in excess of that.

BTW, Kimber, I have to tell you that your nick is giving me severe 
cogdiss.  It always reminds me of my dad's shooting buddy, also named 
Kimber, who is a big-time automatic rifle fanatic.  Everytime I see your 
nick, I have visions of the other Kimber and my dad demolishing 
subversive water jugs with massive amounts of machine gun fire!  =O


May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Quand tu entendras le vent dans la vallee,
Que tu verras l'aigle en liberte,
Que tu sentiras le printemps venir en toi,
Ce sera moi, ce sera moi.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 11:13 PDT
From: Carolyn Taylor <ctaylor-+AT+-bmi.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk, ctaylor-+AT+-bmi.net
Subject: Re: A Whole Wide World of Misty
Message-ID: <m0ue3lg-0003f1C-+AT+-bmi.bmi.net>

>Korendil wrote:
>> its a good rule to NEVER, EVER, let a programmer write
>
Have you forgotten that Misty is, or at any rate was, a programmer before
her books sstarted to make enough money so she coul quit?

Carolyn


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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:20:00 +0000
From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Macs'n'Fish'n'stuff
Message-ID: <199607101917.OAA19361-+AT+-cdale1.midwest.net>

Dear God!!!!! Korendil's only 13!? He's younger than I AM!!! 
BTW, I'm 14, going on 15 in November, and I will be
a Sophomore in high school. 

Hugs,
Summersong


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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:08:30 -0400
From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: All of us young people
Message-ID: <960710160828_234876989-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com>

---------------RYLISSIA--------------
In a message dated 96-07-09 02:13:08 EDT, you write:

> 
>>         Kimberly: I am glad to hear there is someone else under 20 on this
>> list!  (I am 14) Gee, I wonder if there are any other younger Misty
>> fans..........(hint, hint)

I'm under twenty but I'm not admitting my age because then I will get no
respect from anyone. No one seems to believe that chronological age has
nothing to do with mental age.

> Um..the uncle's quite DEFINITELY Jake;P Dogmatic cousin..hmm.....morose 
> sisters..I dunno, are there any sisteers on here? wait..I know there are. 
> I just don't know who they are or if they're morose;>

Uhm, arn't they Windsong, and Wintersong? :) Hey you guys, speak up. :) 
And they don't seem that morse....

Soljan and I (rylissia), or if you'll have it, Silvermoon and Windshadow are
sisters, and we are quite happy as sisters.

>Cinnibar - Real word, never heard it as a name 
Cinnabar is a transparent reddish stone. It's like calling someone Obsidian
or Sapphire- not common.

Windshadow
Ydreen, Syana, Mylahi, Kanya
**You all know that it is common that the youngest do the best at this. Their
minds are not as cluttered and their bodies not as prone to bad habits.**



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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:08:11 -0400
From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid: Names/bacteria/bookstores/gaki
Message-ID: <960710160810_234876966-+AT+-emout14.mail.aol.com>

------------------RYLISSIA--------------------
In a message dated 96-07-08 21:38:03 EDT, you write:

>>>>Welcome to the world of bacteria! [minor snippage] And I really hate to
>break this to you, but sashimi and carpaccio are not good for you- there are
>bacteria that live in raw meat.<<<
>
>funny, that is also what they told me about ceviche and steak tartare.  
>Oddly enough, the multitudes of Japanese, Italians, Americans, Russians and 
>others who regularly eat all of the above do not seem to be unanimously 
>keeling over dead.  (Well, some of the Peruvians, who insist on eating 
>ceviche prepared with fish from cholera-infected waters have gotten sick, 
>but even they don't have anywhere like the incidence you might predict.)

Don't even talk about steak tartare or I will hit you. That is disgusting!
Raw egg in raw ground beef? (for those of you who are lucky enough to not
know what this is, I will give you all something to think about by telling
you. Steak tartare is a mound of raw ground beef, with a little well in the
top of the mound. In that little well is a raw egg, and they expect you to
eat it).Even if the beef isn't bad, think about the egg. 
Some of us have different immune systems. For the most part, it's probably
not the wisest choice to suddenly begin to eat raw or rare meat if you've
never done it before. People who have been doing it for centuries probably
built up some sort of immunities against some of the bacteria.   

>>>>There are a lot of happy little diseases that thrive in these things, and
>cooking can kill them. Yes, overcooking beef causes some trouble too, but
raw
>isn't the way out. (I avoid all this by being a vegetarian! [some 
>snippage]<<<
>
>Cherie, I hate to break it to you but being a vegetarian doesn't exempt 
>you from bacterial hazards.  It just means that your bacteria have 
>different vectors.  Also, cooking does not automatically make everything 
>safe.  Botulism is completely unaffected by cooking (it is caused by a 
>highly toxic, heat-stable by-product of the botulina organism).

FGS! I was kidding- some of us have a humorous side.
 Don't lose the fact that cooking will kill MOST bacteria. I never once
claimed that cooking was the miracle that destroyed every bacteria known to
man. 

>>>>My mother's a nurse- watch out or I'll sic every single one of her health
>books on you <g>!!<<<
>
>My grandmother is nurse.  My aunts are nurses.  I have friends who are in 
>the medical profession.  Most of them like sashimi, some like carpaccio, 
>and some even like ceviche.  BTW, my grandmother was the one who 
>introduced me to the joys of raw shellfish.  So there.  The point is 
>that a trained eye and careful preparation are the key things when it 
>comes to raw food.  My ceviche and carpaccio are safer than many people's 
>fried chicken and spaghetti.  And frankly, I would far rather trust 
>sashimi at a good sushi bar than trust fried clams at a few restaurants 
>that I have seen.

I don't eat clams :-)

All right, Cennydd, let me tell you this one thing. I have been trying
extremely hard not to say this, but I feel I have to.
LIGHTEN UP!
Thank you.
For starters, if someone puts a <g> or a :-) at the end of something, usually
its meant to be taken lightly, not literally, and not replied to.

Feeling much better already
-Windshadow
Syana, Kanya, Ydreen, Mylahi
**"Tabitha, I've been meaning to ask you this for a long time."
   "What's that?"
   "Could you be imperfect for once?"**


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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:08:02 -0400
From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Introverts/Exotic Clothing
Message-ID: <960710160801_234876980-+AT+-emout17.mail.aol.com>

-----------------RYLISSIA------------------
In a message dated 96-07-09 01:11:13 EDT, you write:

>>> I always find it hard to fit
>>> into a new crowd (too shy for my own good, I'd rather be reading a book
>than
>>> be out meeting people, and I absolutely HATE being stared at), and never
>> >know what to say to people.

Introvert? That would be me. I use my drawing to get to know people, instead
of going up and saying hi. I'm rarely without my sketch pad, and I'll just
find a nice corner, start to draw, finish up a picture, so forth, and by some
weird magnetism people migrate over and start asking me "did you do that?"
and everything along that line, and then ask to see the rest of my sketches
and I get nothing done. 
I hate being stared at by people who have higher status or so forth. 
I can speak to crowds who know me pretty well (well enough to know that I
know what I'm doing), or people who don't know me but see me as someone who
know's what they're doing, but I can not talk to people who are discorouged
by apparent age, intelligence, popularity, looks, or so forth. Some days I
could just reach out and slap them... 

On that really exotic clothing topic which is too long to snip-
we have a really nice embroidered black kimono, from Japan (not made in the
US or somewhere for mass production). I'd wear it but it'd be awful hard to
do anything in it besides sitting around the house. (and me,
archer/equestrian/cook/artist/resident maid <g>, I don't have a lot of time
for sitting around the house).
I have a tawny-colored shirt that I sewed suede fringe and feathers around
the collar and in a V-shape down the front. It looks... interesting.  Usually
I wear pretty normal stuff, jeans and t-shirts, cause in my little town
there's not a lot of exotic clothing stores.

Zhai'helleva
-Windshadow
**Love is devoted to those who see that the last dance you dance with the
truth.**





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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:07:28 -0700 (MST)
From: kirchfa-+AT+-AZStarNet.com (Herald Michal)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Yet another braid - but Misty related! <g>
Message-ID: <199607102007.NAA13065-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com>

Heyla!

And the heavens opened, and bright light broke forth, and Jake spaketh:

>Herald Michal  wrote:
>
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>>
>>Some other "more normal" Misty name equivalents...
>>
>>Dirk = Dirk (that's not all *that* uncommon a name)
>
>LOL!

What? That's not all _that_ funny, is it? :)

>>Jaysen = Jason
>>Kris = Chris (or Kris, I suppose)
>>
>>Yeah, those are the easy ones, but I can't think of any others off-hand,
so :P!
>>*gryn*
>
>Yeah, but where did she get VANYEL from? <grin> 

Um...a cross between Vance and Daniel, maybe? <g>

<slice>

>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>(in response to Sandy, attribution, please...]
>>
>>Jake, what's up with starting with ( and ending with ] ? This is not the only
>>instance...<odd look>
>
>Oops.  I have such a bad short term memory that I forget which type of
>parenthese I start my sentence with?  No?  
>
>It's a mental quirk.  Just like how some people post .sig's that are 20
>lines long, 

I refuse to detect any subtle hints here...:)

>I must use different {[('s.  No?
>
>*sigh* It's because the "(" and "[" characters look almost identical on this
>font I'm using for e-mail. <changing font> There we go, Jake!  Better.  I
>had no idea I was doing that, BTW.

Really? How bizzare. *gryn*

>-------------------------------------
>
>>I think the only reason we're getting into all this is because we're anxious
>>for some more good Misty stuff...yeah, I suppose the list has gotten a
>>*leetle* bit OTP recently, 
>>but hey, meaningless chatter is better than no chatter at all. ;) *gryn*
>
>Indeed!  I told Kory that.  Even if Misty did another terrible book like
>_Silver Gryphon_, it would be worth it!

Yup...what's the date for Storm Breaking, again, BTW? (I don't even have to
wait til I'm old to have a bad memory ;))

>> Herald Michal "How did Kris get that Maiden's Head?"
>
>Well, he probably drugged her so she wouldn't scream, and, using his
>longsword cut it off slowly, trying not to make a mess all over his Herald
>whites... <can't resist>

::sigh::...the truly frightening part is that that's the *more* appropriate
of the two obvious answers....

"I saw the wolf, the fox, the hare,
Saw the wolf and the fox getting drunk..."

- J'ai vu le loup, traditional French song

By popular demand...

Until the Wheel stops turning,
Zhai'helleva and Cheysuli i'halla shansu,
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URL: <http://www.azstarnet.com/~kirchfa>
E-Mail: <kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:30:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:names/Esmerelda's sig/Cecilia
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960710162918.10166A-100000-+AT+-access4.digex.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Vrondi wrote:

> On  9 Jul 96 dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl wrote:
> > > Vanyel: Daniel
> > > Talia: Talia
> > > Mekeal: Michael
> > > Dirk: Derek?
> > > Stefen: Stephen
> > Kerowyn - Caroline
> > Sherrill - Cheryl
> > Ylsa     - Esla (!)
> > Alberich  - Albert
> NO! Alberich is a real name! I've seen it in baby books. 

So is Sherrill... it's a spelling variation. 
Some of the other ones are spelling variations, too... and I've seen
Alberich in name books, too.


- Sal

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:32:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Jakes Lists
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960710163148.10166B-100000-+AT+-access4.digex.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Jake wrote:
> 
> Aiee!  Aspartame gives me a headache!  
You, too, huh? <G> 

- Sal

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:17 -0400
From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: another nifty braid
Message-ID: <960710164716_431431327-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com>

>Also, about the book If I Pay Thee not in Gold. Way back when it was first
>published there was an interview with Anthony. In that interview, he said
>that he had written a detailed outline of the book, and given that outline
>to Misty to write the book. He then edited it and passed it back to her to
>edit his edits. It was then published. I will *try* to find that interview,
>but I don't expect to find it. I think it was in one of the magazines I get
>at work, in which case it is long gone.
>
>Sharon
>
>
It may be in an interview,  but it's also in the actual book in Anthony's
author's note,  which I always read,  especially for this one.  He said that
neither of them had much time free,  but she had slightly more or something
IIRC.  I don't remember if he gave her an outline,  but she wrote it,  then
passed it to him to edit and add to where he wanted stuff,  then gave it back
to her to make sure everything fit.  I thought that certain portions
"sounded"  like one or the  other of them,  and I liked the book.  

>Lighten up.  I never noticed the Heralds worrying about their 
>dignity.  They seem to be more interested in getting the job done and 
>enjoying themselves.  I remember several times they were pairing off 
>just for the fun of it.  The mares seemed to be the most interested 
>in getting together with the stallions.  Heat didn't seem to matter 
>either.

>Diana

You're talking heat as meaning "in heat"  correct?  Well,  Companions are
"always in season"  I think the term was.  Talia talks about it because of
Rolan's nocturnal activities,  which she can't block.  IIRC,  one line Talia
says to Kris is,  "Companions are like us,  always in season."
 "So?"
 "I can't block him out,  and he's grove born.  You know what that means."
 "Oh."
I know that's wrong,  but I'm too lazy to go find it.  It's the basics
though. And Rolan was the one who went after Cymry when Skif visited Kris and
Talia,  after being with another stallion for months.  After they got back
Rolan and Dirk's Ahrodie were having some "interesting nights,"  so to speak.

Cennydd wrote:
>ObMisty: I wonder where Valdemarans go for vacation?  Maybe someone could 
>start a lovely beach resort on the shores of Lake Evendim!  A couple of 
>luxurious hostelries, some fabu little B&B's run by cute shaych couples, 
>and lots of boutiques and shops filled with gorgeous little things from 
>underdeveloped Third-World countries!
LOL!  I can see that,  that's why it's funny.  But which shaych couples? 

Jake/Rynath wrote:
>> Herald Michal "How did Kris get that Maiden's Head?"

>Well, he probably drugged her so she wouldn't scream, and, using his
>longsword cut it off slowly, trying not to make a mess all over his Herald
>whites... <can't resist>
That's reminds me of when Talia and Kris were stuck in the blizzard and
trying to get her gift back together.  Kris mentioned something about her
killing him and she replied,
"No,  that would make the blankets all sticky."

Lady Silvermoon
LIG,  Leader of the DDMF,  Goddess of Sensitivity
"A bird in hand is much better than,  any number free to wander."  DMB _Pay
For What You Get_

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:47:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: owning a bookstore
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960710164246.10166C-100000-+AT+-access4.digex.net>

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996 awand123-+AT+-pipeline.com wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 9, 1996 10:04:07 PM, Sal wrote: 
>  
> >BTW, general question:  Not to pick on Misty, but did anyone else notice 
> >that the 1st and 3rd published DT novels (Burning Water & Jinx High) had 
> >DT and Andre living in Connecticut (I think) and CotN had them in New York
> >City, in a flat that had always been owned by Guardians, with no 
> >explanation of why she moved out of the NYC flat?  *Very* confusing to 
> >me... I mean, if she's got this perfect setup in NYC, why move?  Other 
> >than the obvious drawbacks of being an Empath in the Big Apple, I mean... 
> 
> > 
> >- Sal 
>  
> Um, just a conservative answer without a book to look this up in hand
> <remembering flame sunburns> ... Jinx High didn't mention Andre, because
> she was visiting Larry, not staying anywhere permanently. Also, Burning
> Water took place in Dallas, not Connecticut, and Di was again, *invited*
> there by Mark Valdez, so presumably she didn't live anywhere close. There's
> an airport scene somewhere in Burning Water, which takes place after
> Children of the Night. I hope this'll clear up a few questions... <gryn>
> like so many stuffed noses. I hope I'm right, too, though, but don't worry,
> if I'm wrong,  everyone else will correct me. Thanks,  Kim  =D
> 

OK... Burning Water references Di running to the airport in Connecticut
and dumping her book in the Fed-Ex box at the airport in a rush.  She also
mentions a "boyfriend who wonders why she won't get serious with him"
(presumably Andre, because she doesn't mention anyone else).  Jinx High
*does* mention Andre ("Oh, *you're* Andre") and Connecticut in specific...
so again: why did she move out of the perfect flat in NYC to Connecticut
if the flat in NYC was so perfect?

- Sal

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:00:25 -0500
From: Tammy Harris <TAMARAH-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: This, that, and the other
Message-ID: <2CD312E1316-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu>

Bright Goddess!!

When I left work on Monday, I was all caught up on my mail.  I didn't 
make it in yesterday, so today, I came in to over 270 messages.  
ACK!!  While reading those and running my assay (that *is* what they 
pay me for, after all), over 30 more arrived!  What's come over you?  
I only missed one day......  <whimper, whimper>
======================================================

re:  Lifebonds, Lady Thess wrote:

> (And no, I'm not waiting
> forever, nor do I really care if I ever get married, as far as being in a
> relationship goes, "living in sin" does me fine, I've seen too many failed
> marriages to want to get married to anyone but MY lifebonded, and I'm not
> certain that my sweetie IS my lifebonded. How do you tell in mundane life?
> Is anyone on the list with their lifebonded?

YES!!  People keep asking me when I'm getting married, or ask if I 
have anything to *tell* them.  (Or they try to be subtle and check my 
hand for a ring.  (FYI--there isn't one))

Anyway, how do you tell if you've met the one for you?  You may feel 
that this person is for you, but how do you **know**?  (Yeah, I seem 
to be waiting for a sign from a god or something.  What is it Kethry 
screams at Tarma, "Stop asking for bloody omens!")  So, what do all 
of you think?  How do you know?  I'd really like to know.  For those 
of you who haven't met "The One", how do you think you will know?
===================================================

re: Tremane, Korendil wrote:

> THat is, of course, if somehow misty glided over the for now missing 
> click between tremane and solaris when she paid him that little visit, 
> and charliss is still alive...its very possible he's died, either from 
> the storms or from civil war...and, well, he shoudla known what tremane'd 
> do if he didn't contact him. Charliss is/was a smart man..he should be 
> able to put his knowledge to use. 

Charliss is a smart man, but he had no way of knowing the storms were 
coming, that all forms of magic were going to be scrambled and nearly 
impossible.  And that the gates, and all the forms of communication 
they relied, on would thus be unusable.  The Empire relied very heavily 
on magic, so I'm sure it's in great turmoil right now.  Even if Charliss has 
time to *think* about Tremane, he certainly doesn't have time to try and 
figure out what he's doing.

When Solaris showed up at Tremane's, she was in the midst of a 
tirade, and he was just plain stunned.  Neither one was in a 
condition to notice the click if there was one.
======================================================

re:  Eddings, Sal wrote:

> Personally, and no offense to Eddings, the Belgariad was a great series.
> The Mallorean was essentailly the Belgariad revisited (and even Eddings
> admitted that it was a cyclical thing, and the cycle wasn't done because
> they'd done something wrong the first time...??!  I find recycled, reused
> plots by the same author about like the music of the 1970's pop group "Air
> Supply..." it all sounds / reads the same, and it gets boring as heck
> after a while...

I agree.  Bad enough to reuse the plot from the Belgariad in the 
Mallorean.  At least he had a "reason" (read, excuse).  But to reuse 
essentially the same plot and characters in the Elenium, well, that's 
why I said not to bother with it.  Just MO, of course.
======================================================

re:  Names, Cennydd wrote a long list of names.  I have a few more 
ideas about derivations.....

> Tarma - "Fish roe" (greek tarama = salmon(?) roe)
hmmmm, Tarma, sounds kinda' familiar.....

> Jisa - "Jessie"
could also have come from Lisa

> Shavri - can't think of any equivalent
Shari

> Trevan - can't think of any equivalent
> Treyvan - can't think of any equivalent
both could come from Trevor

> Vanyel - possibly Slav (Vanya is a real female name)
Daniel

> Ikala - can't think of any equivalent
Ike

> Urtho - can't think of any equivalent
Arthur

> Skandranon -  can't think of any equivalent
this is stretching it, but could have come from Sandra
=================================================

Jake wrote:

> Do you actually WANT me to stop writing humor?

NO!!  Please, no!  Anything but that!  Haven forbid!!!
==================================================

to Kerry, Ailsa, and SpiritBlade, a big HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
==================================================

re:  Lifebonds, Mooncloud wrote:

> In SWarning, after An'desha had his tantrum, and Elspeth was trying to 
> explain to him that Darkwind and Firesong were just kidding around, and 
> not actually flirting, she said that she and Darkwind were lifebonded.

Ummm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she just said "bonded", as 
in love-bonded.
==================================================

> Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr

Huh.  I didn't know they had Heralds on Alderaan. <grin>
==================================================

re:  Ages

Okay, all ye youngsters, listen to Tammy, the WOL (Wise Old Lady)(tm) 
of the list...

When I took a poll of listmember ages, almost 60 people responded.  
There were about the same number in their teens as in there 20's, 
with a little over half that who were 30 and above.  So, now you know!
===================================================

And that, little kiddies, is the end of this braid. <Finally!  I 
heard that!>  I am now all caught up once again.  And, it's time to 
go home!  What timing. 

In a while, crocodiles!

Tammy


"It's time to ask yourself what you believe"

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:06:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Fire Rose/lifebonds
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960710180449.12926B-100000-+AT+-access4.digex.net>

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Korendil wrote:
> 
> Whoah..Kero and Eldan are lifebonded? I don't remember our voluinmous 
> arguments on the lifebonded subject, though,...but IIRC our decision was 
> that they WEREN'T...people who HAVE noticed the click:

Kero and Eldan -- I think I remember a passage near the end of BTS on
their lifebond (existance/non-existance of), but it may heave been
referring to Selenay and Darryn...

 - Sal

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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:25:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sal <kerria-+AT+-access.digex.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: owning a bookstore
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960710182409.12926F-100000-+AT+-access4.digex.net>

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, David Snyder wrote:
> Oh, and in CotN, yes, she lived in New York, but in the other two, she'd
> moved out to CT.

Yes, I CAUGHT THAT!  I wanted to know if anyone ever said *WHY* she'd done
so, not *IF* she'd done so!!!  It didn't make any *SENSE* to me at the
time...!

I do think, however, that the time frames might be a little tighter...  

- Sal

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