MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 681

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by samcpa-+AT+-rtd.com
  2) Re: Happy Birthday!!
	by michele meredith <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
  3) Re: Braid For A Day
	by Patrick White <patrick-+AT+-inreach.com>
  4) Re: 
	by kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com (Herald Michal)
  5) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by michele meredith <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
  6) Serrated/Name/Dypo/List/Uncle/Sister/Censor/funny/speedos
	by Seranna-+AT+-aol.com
  7) Re: certificates, herald mage requirements and all kinds of stuff!
	by Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  8) TWO new song parodies!  The joy!
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  9) Re: Dutch Braid - Reply
	by mbennett-+AT+-csra.net
 10) Re: Lifebonds, Humor, Reincarnations and Stuff
	by mbennett-+AT+-csra.net
 11) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by Claris Smith <ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>
 12) Re: FAQ & kitsune
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
 13) Re: TWO new song parodies!  The joy!
	by kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com (Herald Michal)
 14) Re: Di become a vampire?
	by "Vrondi" <deanca-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu>
 15) (LONG) Braid: age/names/maps/magic/lifebonds/wolves
	by Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:38:00 -0700 (MST)
From: samcpa-+AT+-rtd.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <199607112338.QAA00151-+AT+-seagull.rtd.com>


>If you could really visit the worlds of literature, where would you go and
>why?

I would be the mime in _Oathblinded_. <g>

        You know, if I were to go somewhere, I think it would be somewhere 
on Velgarth.  Maybe as an Adept...

************************************************************************
Stephen Moore                   
E-Mail- samcpa-+AT+-rtd.com              

"Silly sheep
go to sleep.
We will watch around you keep
through the night be dark and deep
nothing past us dares to creep
go to sleep." -Holderkin Sheep-Song
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:41:18 -0400
From: michele meredith <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!!
Message-ID: <31E5911E.3D8F-+AT+-prolog.net>

Jake wrote:
> 
> At 06:04 PM 7/10/96 +0100, Mishi, who I nominate as Goddess of Hyperness and
> Overbubbliness, wrote: [I mean that in a good way, Mishi!]
> Thanks, Jake that actually fits me perfectly!!! One of my friends is 
here and she says "Especially, The Hyperness part!!" As soon as Lady 
Thessaly gets back from vacation, I'll ask her if I can be nominated. 
I'll tell her it was your idea. <g>

> >Ailsa Reid wrote:
>
> OK, I won't tell you all it's my 23rd birthday on Friday then! ;>

> >Happy Birthday!!!!!!!! Boy, since your birthday is Friday and
> >Spiritblade's is on Sat. I think I'll make A big chocolate birthday cake
> >with peanut butter frosting on it. It's also for anyone else whose
> >birthday I missed.
> 
> Yum.  Well, my birthday is in March, so save the recipe.

I'll make one with you in mind, Jake!! <g>

Jake, one more thing, maybe for your birthday I'll stop using you as my 
target to pick on. Nah, can't do that, it's too much fun!!!!

Love, luck, and lollipops,
		Mishi, the (hopefully) soon to be named Goddess of 
Hyperness and Overbubbliness

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:57:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick White <patrick-+AT+-inreach.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid For A Day
Message-ID: <199607112357.QAA05996-+AT+-inreach.com>

At 04:17 PM 7/10/96 +0100, you wrote:
>At 10:16 AM 7/10/96 Alisa wrote:
>>Sal  said:
>>>Ok, so just how old *ARE* y'all?  *I'M* 31, so if you're younger than I
>>>am, I don't wanna hear it! <G>
>
>>>-S
> 
>>OK, I won't tell you all it's my 23rd birthday on Friday then! ;>
>
>>Ailsa, who is starting to feel old compared to half this list!
>
><raises hand> Umm. I'm 22, Arielle and Sylver Dove are 25, Tammy is in her
>20's, Kerry <I think> just turned 21 <happy birthday>Falcon's about to turn
20 so you're not really
>THAT old, people...


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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:52:50 -0700 (MST)
From: kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com (Herald Michal)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: 
Message-ID: <199607112352.QAA10693-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com>

Heyla!

>ami wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everone again
>> 
>> I've been lurking around fo rabout a week now and I have one question.
>> Would sombody please tell me what _Oathblinded is?
>> Let me see if I get this straight, Oathblinded is not a real book nor 
>ever will be. Somewhere it started that it was goign to be a third book 
>in the Vows and Honor series. Now Jake just likes to use it when TRYING 
>to be funny. <g> That sounds like I'm saying Well any idiot knows that - 
>I'm not I'm trying to be nice but it's not coming out that way. 
>
>Love, luck, and lollipops,
>		Mishi

Exactly; look at it as a sort of hazing ritual. *wink* 
Hmmm, I s'pose this is only tangentially Misty related, so...

ObMisty: I'm sure there are wolves on Velgarth...anyone remember references
to them? Just OOC...(no, the ~other~ OOC! ;))
I'm sure I'll think of five as soon as I send this, but at least I have an 
ObMisty...<g>

Until the Sword that Could Not Be Broken is shattered...oops! <g>

*********************************************************   
      Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr
    President of the VEVUWEC and member of the DMFs                
    God of Useless Facts and Irellevant Information
*********************************************************


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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:07:36 -0400
From: michele meredith <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <31E59748.72CF-+AT+-prolog.net>

> >>On July 11, Sal wrote:
> >
> >>If you could really visit the worlds of literature, where would you go and
> >>why?
> Oh, boy this one got me thinking. (now that wasn't nice, I might hurt 
myself). Let's see where would I go. Okay, I know. I would go to 
Waterdeep in Faerun. (you have to read Forgotten Realms look to know 
where I mean) But if Danilo Thann (Think Jake, really that who he 
reminds me of) has fun there I think I could, too. Plus, if I would get 
a little bored I could always go into the Underdark and kill a few 
nasty creatures. 

Or else I would go to Velgrath. I think either with the Shin'a'in or 
the Hawkbrothers. I could go for either of their lifestyles. Well, 
that's it for now.

Love, luck, and lollipops,
		Mishi, the soon to be named Goddess of Hyperness and 
Overbubbliness

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:09:48 -0400
From: Seranna-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Serrated/Name/Dypo/List/Uncle/Sister/Censor/funny/speedos
Message-ID: <960711200947_432353784-+AT+-emout18.mail.aol.com>

Jake said:

>>Indeed, Kory.  I am 22 years old, and I don't enjoy reading books geared
>>towards 14 or 15 year old boys. (Fast Cars! Vroom Vroom!]... 
Well, I am definitely older than 22, not a boy, and I enjoyed the Serrated
Edge books.  But I am confused about the cars...I thought they were  elven
steeds slumming?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Cennydd said:
>I always like "cynthia" since it has to do with cats. =)  Also, the 
>Italian version of this name is pretty: "Cinzia" pronounced "cheenzeea"

You're right, the Italian version is much lovelier.  I was the second Cynthia
in Italian class, so I was named Cinziana, which I thought was pretty.
 However, the pronounciation in Spanish is Seen-TEE-ah, which is the same
pronounciation as 'sin tia'  (without an aunt).  I don't know why, but that
has always driven me crazy. <Went to a Latin school for a few years, and the
boys teased me by calling me 'sin tia.'  Don't ask, don't know why it
bothered me.> 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 7-9 Esmeralda (I think) wrote:

>Someone asked a while back (David Tiffany, git of dypos I think)

Git of dypos??  ROFL!!! ROGL!!!  I loved that!  It really tickled the funny
bone, and all of the other ones too.  <Sorry David>

~~~~~~~~~~
On 7-9, Sandy wrote:

>Well folks, am I the only person who saves these things??  In addition to 
>5 or 6 or more song parodys that I have saved, I have a total of.......
>*13* of Jakes top 10 or so list that include...
<Big ol' Snip here>
>So, I think I have a corner on the market, how much will ya'll give me to 
>post some of these???

I was going to offer you whatever Hurricane Bertha dumped in my yard, but she
decided not to visit <sigh>.  I'd offer you chocolate sheep, but a certain
you know who on the list has dibs on them all.  So, how about this:  imagine
a purple suede pouch lined with goldenrod velvet; it is rather small, but can
hold your greatest wish.  It's yours.  Can I have a copy of the lists? BTW,
please remember to forward Jake his share! <BG>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 7-9 Uncle Jake wrote:
>Attribution Lost wrote: [in response to my dysfunctional family post]
>> >Hey, is this the new contest?  Are we to guess who the crazy uncle, the
>> >dogmatic cousin, and the morose sister are?  How else would we describe
>> >ourselves?  <kindly, no playing nasty>

Sorry, that was me.

<Snip>
<Kerry? wrote>
>>Dogmatic cousin? Hmmm... Oh Cennnnnnnnnyyyyd.. *grin duck & run*

>Gods. (grin) And I didn't even do that on purpose....

You didn't?  Geez, that's scary! That you didn't do it on purpose, I that I
understood it that way <G>.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 7-9 Jake wrote:

>BTW, .sig wise, I am upset about things that are happening with my short
>stories, song parodies, characters, and humor, that's why I sound so
>irritable.  I apologize to the list for it in advance. 

I think that I may have been losing email because I don't understand what's
been happening to your creations.  I don't want to reopen any issues, but I
hope everything has been worked out.  Is there something I can do to help?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 7-9 Lady Thessaly wrote:
>Oh, by the way, I either want to be an aunt, or a sister.  Can I, can I,
>huh, huh, can I?  Or did someone have me in mind for something else?

Yep, I think you're the mystical, eccentric <don't worry, I think most of us,
including me, are eccentric>, sister.  The kind that says what's on her mind,
very imaginatively, whenever she feels the need.  But definitely not the kind
you have to keep in the attic. <g>.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 7-9 Korendil wrote:
>go read the rest of my email first-- bak. Well, I'm not in the mood to 
>preach now....but I think we should ALL lay off concerning computers, and 
>we should all stop making a big deal about:
>1. Age
>2. Computer Preference
>3. What Misty we like
>4. Sheep (this is a general thing that can probably help in all areas of
life;P

Egads! Censorship? I would have thought that any subject not interesting
would just die a natural death.  Don't know about the first two, but I joined
the list to discuss, or read about Misty.  And you can't be serious about the
sheep!  I mean, sheep are in our everyday lives.  <give me some time to come
up with some examples - Gryn>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
On the same day, Spencer wrote:
>her books.  IMHO, I've always had a suspicion that he puts in the parts
>with the jokey characters (who end up rather one dimensional) such as
>the hertasi (can't remember his name) in the Gryphon trilogy.

I rather enjoy the light parts of the books.  A book doesn't need to be deep
and heartwrenching throughout, it can be both emotional and funny.  Right
Uncle?    Besides, I LIKE the hertasi.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Ditto Day Sal Wrote:
<snip>
>on-duty ones, though... you know what I mean?  I mean, who would take a
>Herald seriously in a pair of white Speedo's? <G>
I would!  If the herald looked like Mel Gibson in white speedos! 

Sorry this is so long!  I've been trying to catch up on the last 2 1/2 days.
 Will finish posting later.

Seranna
Goddess of lost minds and bodies




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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:28:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: certificates, herald mage requirements and all kinds of stuff!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960711202459.17556B-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com wrote:

[snippage of a really huge long *personal* letter to Rynath]

this really should have been private email.  This is the sort of thing 
that we should be keeping off the list, so that Aunti Mel doesn't go 
totally ballistic and discontinue the whole shebang.  And don't say it 
can't happen, I see web sites an mailing lists disappear all the time 
because they become to unwieldy for their own good (too much bandwidth, 
not enough substantive comment)

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Quand tu entendras le vent dans la vallee,
Que tu verras l'aigle en liberte,
Que tu sentiras le printemps venir en toi,
Ce sera moi, ce sera moi.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me



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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:34:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: TWO new song parodies!  The joy!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960713202417.1cf72e4e-+AT+-webspan.net>

Wahey, folks!

We've got two, yes two, dos, zwei, dva, deux song parodies
for you this time!  The first is a parody of LAMMAS NIGHT by
Mercedes Lackey.  The second?  Well, you'll figure it out.

(I'd like to apologize NOW for the second one. <grin>)

=============================================================
STORMCLOUD'S DILEMMA (A Parody)
With apologies to Mercedes Lackey
New Lyrics by Jake Adamo (rynath-+AT+-webspan.net)
=============================================================

A whining moan comes from my face
A sigh, a yell, and it is loud --
 (More than allowed)
A look of terror 'cross my face
I stop and stare and choke.
 (Is it a joke?)
I lent my books to friends and now
The spines are warped and bent and bowed
 (I feel so cowed)
I stand in front of her house now
To deal with what she broke.
 (I wake, I scream--But it's a dream...)

A reader of an avid kind
I was, until a month ago
 (so well I know)
My friend she quick upon me came
And begged for books to lend
 (she was my friend)
"For since you've read I've spied," she said
"I want to read those books oh so..."
 (how could I know?)
"I have no tomes to read right now
And while away the day."
 (I say, "Hey, self, they're on the shelf..")

"If so, these books are yours milady,
And I'll give it back real soon"
 (such a buffoon)
The offer was real tempting
I could not set it aside
 ("More books!" I cried!)
I'd wearied of my readings, being
Plaything of an author's tune
 (I need a boon!)
This was the chance I'd hoped for
And I said that I would bide.
 (A trade -- so good, read them, I would..)

Perhaps if I had been forewarned
And not eager, perhaps if I
Had been less desperate for some stuff,
Or less of reading speed..
 (Much books I need...)
Whatever weakness was in me
Or for whatever reason why
 (Good books? A lie!)
When I got the books in trade
My grim thoughts then were freed.
 (The books -- what ho? Tolkien? Oh no!)

The Vanyel books away from me,
Not close at hand or by my side
 (to bid me bide)
The trade it was a token -- one
Dumb trade for my good pick
 (I might be sick)
Tolkien? A stranger! Tried to read
Them all to get my worth
 (I laughed with mirth)
For reading them was such an act
That I put them down quick
 (Oh Van! Come back! My paperback!)

I sat a spell, incoherent
The pages did not turn with me
 (What fool I be)
I wish J. T. had not wrote words
Or taken up a pen...
 (I said, again..)
The first book I could not finish
The book was too complex to me
 (Willy-nilly)
The second just lied there as dead
I won't try it again!
 (Like hell if then I'll read again)

Now, this trade was unequal
Vanyel's my heart, my life, my soul
 (With him I'm whole)
But my poor friend demanded
That I lend him to her, right?
 (Oh what a fright)
It's been a year now, has it?
Of this lending I am getting sick!
 (Tolkien: ick!)
I should have got a writ
To try and solve my plight.
 (To read, for me, to scan, to be!)

Can it be wise to risk the anger
Of my friend if I do ask?
 (This trade's a task)
Yet, who is she for her to
Take my book and disappear...
 (She lives not near)
Perhaps if I should call her?
Or was this trade only just a mask?
 (Well, call and ask!)
And could I trust her answer
If I dared to ask her, "Why?"
 (I do not trust! I need Van! MUST!!)
So now I stand before the phone here
I am pacing 'cross the floor
 (I need him more)
I have no further answer if
My book is here or gone
 (I can't go on)
Though I have prayed full often, nor
Can I this moment answer, if
I'll tell her "Hi!" or "Nooooooo!"

* Author's note: Anyone who personally knows Stormcloud for
  more than a month or two will eventually hear the complaint
  about how her Last Herald-Mage books are on loan, traded
  for Tolkien books she did not like. :) That's the
  inspiration for this song.



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VAN: Yet another parody.
With apologies to Monty Python's Flying Circus
New Lyrics by Jake Adamo <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
=============================================================

Van, Van, Van, Van,
Van, Van, Van, Van <repeat ad infinitum>

<when sick of singing>

Wonderful Van, Powerful Van,
Magical Van, Wonderful...

<crescendo> Van Van Van Van Van Van Van Va-an
Van Van Van Van Van Van Van

Wonderful Van!
Magical Van!
Powerful Van!

<slow down> Van.. Van.. Van... Vaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

* Author's note: I couldn't resist this one.  If you don't
  know what song this is to, I'll give you a hint. It's a 4
  letter word beginning with S and ending in PAM...


<groan!>
May the bones of your enemies form a bridge beneath your feet,

Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
God of Parody and Top Ten Lists / Avatar of Humor
Misty Humor and FAQ archivist ~ http://www.webspan.net/~rynath

I eat too much / I drink too much / I want too much / TOO MUCH!
- Dave Matthews Band, _Too Much_



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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:59:44 -0400
From: mbennett-+AT+-csra.net
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Dutch Braid - Reply
Message-ID: <31E5A380.2E0B-+AT+-csra.net>

Barbara Slater wrote:
> 
> Peter the Great wrote:
> I suppose it dosen't count since I'm in SC now, but my home/heart are  from Jacksonville.  Heres to sand and sea water!
> 
> My reply:
> Yo, Pete! Where are you?  I'm in Charleston ... need to find some other Mistyites around here!
> 
> ObMisty: Has anyone ever drawn up a map of Valdemar, with some of the storyplaces on it? (me-+AT+-office, books-+AT+-home - buried in boxes)
> 
> Barbara the Bertha-baiter
 -Preemptive PS--sorry if this sounds as haughty to you all as it does 
to me on re-read!:)
OK, clarification, my name is Mark, Peter was a Russian Tzar (Czar, 
whatever is in vouge now) and yes, he realy said that.
I'm in Johnston, about 15 miles north of Augusta, GA

-- 
---"Destiny may well ride with us today, but I see no reason it should 
interfere with lunch!"
                                                             -Peter the 
Great




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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:12:00 -0400
From: mbennett-+AT+-csra.net
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Lifebonds, Humor, Reincarnations and Stuff
Message-ID: <31E5A660.19D8-+AT+-csra.net>

David Snyder wrote:
> 
> At 12:29 AM 7/11/96 +0100, you wrote:
> >>Anyway, how do you tell if you've met the one for you?  You may feel
> >>that this person is for you, but how do you **know**?  (Yeah, I seem
> >>to be waiting for a sign from a god or something.  What is it Kethry
> >>screams at Tarma, "Stop asking for bloody omens!")  So, what do all
> >>of you think?  How do you know?  I'd really like to know.  For those
> >>of you who haven't met "The One", how do you think you will know?
> ******************************
> 
> I've been asking that for a while, Tammy.  I strongly suspect I'm with the
> One right now, but when we met, I was trying desperately to deny anything
> could happen because he was married, and I was living with someone, almost
> engaged.  Then life happened, we became friends, I got dumped (HOOORAY,
> never promise not to leave someone, I did, and then I had to stick to it or
> lose my integrity.  I also had to get him so angry that he dumped me, not
> easy after 2 1/2 years.) and his wife decided that Georgia was looking good,
> and she moved up there...alone. Then he got divorced, and he and I started
> sort of seeing each other, on an extremely non-committed basis.  Now, we're
> officially boy/girlfriend, we're living together, and I'm loving it!  But I
> still don't know if he's the One, and we've been through more in 3 years
> than a lot of people I know who've been together for 10.  ?????  But I still
> want the omen.
> 
> **************************
> >>> Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr
> >>Huh.  I didn't know they had Heralds on Alderaan. <grin>
> >He's the last one.
> >"Master Dark.  Only you would be so bold."
> >Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
> ********
> I love it, ROTFH!!!!!!!
> 
> ***********************
> In CotN, Len and Keith have just met, and it's in the course of the book
> that they think about becoming lovers.
> 
> *********************
> Welcome to all the newbies, I would have said hello sooner, but I was
> working on a large braid that wasn't comepletely saved when my computer
> froze up and I had to turn it off.  I was so disgusted (since I'd already
> deleted all the posts that I'd replied to) that I gave up.  So welcome and
> hugs to all the newbies, and to the old and familiar, more hugs!
> 
> *********************
> About Skif and Nyara, I'm not going into full quote mode like I did on my
> lost post, but go read the conversation between Stefan, Skif and Nyara, and
> you'll see that they are DEFINITELY not lifebonded, just (just--what a
> language, as if love isn't as important!) love bonded.
> 
> *******************
> Another reincarnated Herald--Tantras, Tantris--Kris's Companion.  And IIRC,
> Griffon's Companion was a reincarnate too, but I could be REAL wrong here.
> 
> **********************
> If I was to be found on Velgarth, it would either be with the Tayledras, or
> the Heralds.  I want to do magic, or have a few Gifts, or both.  In my RPG,
> the coauthor was running it, and I ripped off Vanyel, because I love his
> combination of Gifts--I had my character as a direct descendant of Vanyel
> through the child he fathered for two of Lissa's shaych guards.  She came
> from a farming family, apple farming, even the Queen preferred her family's
> apples, best in Valdemar, and while she wasn't nobility, her family was
> looked up to as the leaders in her area, which was not too far from Shadows.
> Boy, I ought to write about Jhaena, but in Misty's universe, you're not
> supposed to use major characters.  Anyone want to email collaborate?
> 
> *************************
> Shady, I'll forgive you you're one-liners, and I'm going to stop this braid
> here and start a new one, it's too long!
> Lady Thessaly           "My dad says I gotta live amongst soft, weak civilized
> Goddess of Nomenclature  men, so's I can be a kind and just ruler...and
> learn how
> MKGC                     torture without leaving marks!"  young
> Alex-to-be-the-Great
> Lady in Green             in   Epicurus the Sage
Sorry to dash any romantic theory, but THE OMEN (skeletal voice, smalle 
squeaking in the back ground- sorry, PTerry moment) doesn't happen.  I 
meet my wife because I thought she was someone else at a dark soccer 
game!  Started haning around because she read, and any potential 
addition to ones library is a good thing.  We got married-seven years 
ago.  I was in love then and still am, but have yet to see fireworks or 
hear bells (unless I drink WAY too much, but thats another story).  
Omens would be nice, but as Tad Williams said (The Dragon Bone Chair, 
One that I can't remember right off, and To Green Angel Tower) "Beware 
the fales prophet."  Please forgive if thats a misquote, its pretty 
close though.
-- 
---"Destiny may well ride with us today, but I see no reason it should 
interfere with lunch!"
                                                             -Peter the 
Great




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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:23:26 -0500
From: Claris Smith <ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960712012326.006b1a5c-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>

At 01:37 AM 7/12/96 +0100, you wrote:
>> >>On July 11, Sal wrote:
>> >
>> >>If you could really visit the worlds of literature, where would you go and
>> >>why?

Gyahhh...*torture* us, why doncha?!?!?!  This is a tough one.  I figure it
would be Velgarth, with the Heralds (don't look at me like that, I've been
told my personality is equally suited for being an artist, a professor, or a
cop!) or Hawkbrothers.  I've always loved the Hawkbrothers, such a wonderful
blend of Celtic-types and Native American and Elves.  Or any urban fantasy
Earth, because I wished I lived in a world where I could see the magick all
the time.  Waterdeep, Mishi??? Too bloody! (Besides, Elminster's a bit of a
bore <g>)  I love _Neuromancer_, but wouldn't last a second there.  All the
Asian-fantasy worlds I can think of would actually be pretty grim to live in
. . . I know!  I know!  Bordertown, *HERE* *I* *COME*!!!  Yep, it's in the
near future, it's got skaters and Tibetan goddesses and dragons and banshees
and Elves and werewolves and cool music and Spiral Dancers and Wiccans and
martial arts and--and--and-- I like this series waaaaaaaaay too much!

Oh, Jake, thanks for the parodies! (How much are we paying you, again? ;))
We need to have a Jake Appreciation Day!  
*Claris Smith, Art/History Major, GM/Gamewriter, sf/fantasy Artist, Gung Fu
Student*
 *U. of A., Su Ko Ming, Razorbattles Art Show Coordinator, The Dragon Roars
Editor*
     *ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu  |  4045 Abington Ct. Fayetteville AR 72703-5065*
       *The first prerequisite for immortality is death.  ---Stanislaw Lec*


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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: FAQ & kitsune
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960711212526.15309B-100000-+AT+-little-miami.iac.net>

Heyla!
Yes Korendil, I will be pleased to do WoC for your FAQ.

Storm Breaking does have an October release date. I'll post a message the 
day I unpack it. Or you might ask your local bookseller to give you a 
call. I do it for customers all of the time.

Mishi, I am most decidedly she. Just ask my husband <WEG>!

Any suggestions for reading more about kitsune? Cennydd? Anyone?

	Undine

"I was just kidding," said the frog. He jumped back into the pond and the 
princess wiped the frog slime off her lips.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:32:59 -0700 (MST)
From: kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com (Herald Michal)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: TWO new song parodies!  The joy!
Message-ID: <199607120132.SAA29749-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com>

Heyla!

Jake spake:

>Wahey, folks!
>
>We've got two, yes two, dos, zwei, dva, deux song parodies
>for you this time!  The first is a parody of LAMMAS NIGHT by
>Mercedes Lackey.  The second?  Well, you'll figure it out.
>
>(I'd like to apologize NOW for the second one. <grin>)

<snip>

What can I say...*two* new amazing song parody's by the master.
*gryn* I must say, the second one takes the cake...the best
yet! ;) Ah well, just thought I'd babble on, since it takes
up more bandwidth than just saying "ROGH" <g>.

Zhai'helleva all...

"Baa...splat"
- Flying sheep from Monty Python's Flying Circus

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      Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr
    President of the VEVUWEC and member of the DMFs                
    God of Useless Facts and Irellevant Information
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:58:51 +0000
From: "Vrondi" <deanca-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Di become a vampire?
Message-ID: <199607120054.UAA19094-+AT+-edweb.concord.wvnet.edu>

On 11 Jul 96 Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> Who would like to see Di become a vampire so she could stay with Andre? To
> save them grief? Call me crazy (which I'm sure you will <g>) but I've always
> wanted that to happen. Anybody else?

me! ME! ME! 
I have said before,wiht Andre around, I'd become a vampire. <sigh> 
More Andre! more Andre!
____________________________________________________________
-Vrondi,"Mistress of the Air, One With the Trees"
 a.k.a. Free Bard Oriole    a.k.a. Chrys Amy Dean
________________________________________
"It's..."    "Yes?"   "It's..."  "What is it Chester?!"
"It's a white zucchini!"
-Chester from "Bunnicula" by Deborah and James Howe
________________________________________
http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:07:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Topaze Smoke <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: (LONG) Braid: age/names/maps/magic/lifebonds/wolves
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960711220503.6691B-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Rylissia wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: All of us young people

>>>I'm under twenty but I'm not admitting my age because then I will get no
respect from anyone. No one seems to believe that chronological age has
nothing to do with mental age.<<<

I think that most of us on this list know that chronolgical age and 
intellectual age are totally different things.  I think the chrono age on 
this list is spread over a pretty wide range, but I think most of us are 
about the same intellectual age or development.  Actually, I have a 
theory that people are pretty much completely done with their cognitive 
development by the time they are in their early to mid teens and that for 
the rest of their lives they are just adding new information and 
processing it, using their basic cognitive systems.

>>>or Sapphire- not common.<<<

Sapphire, like Ruby and Pearl, used to be a fairly common name in the 
South, especially amoung the working class and the African-American 
population.

-----EOM

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Lady Glithoniel wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Lifebonds

>>>I've been following the series of posts on Lifebonds with considerable
frustration and amusement.  Listen up folks!  Lifebonds are NOT fun.  
[snippage of some really excellent points that I agree with completely]  It 
isn't a risk I'm willing to take.  It was hard enough for me to nurture 
the strong love bond I have with my husband.<<<

I have often wondered why Misty even put lifebonds into Velgarth.  I 
mean, love seems magical and wonderful enough without some extra mystical 
bond.  Besides, I have never understood what was accomplished by having a 
lifebond.  So far, I can't think of anyone in the novels who has really 
derived any benefit from having a lifebond rather than a lovebond.  It 
isn't like elven recognition in the ElfQuest stories, where the bond 
ensures fertility and acts as an evolutionary selecter.

>>>(and no I'm not a lawyer but I did major in English in college.  I had 
an excellent professor who encouraged us to come up with wild theories, 
but we had to support them with concrete evidence from the book. So, I 
just can't help it.  I was trained this way.  *shrugging helplessly*)<<<

Glith, can I just say that I love you! =)  As the founder of the textevd 
movement on the list, I am doing the "happy hamster hop." *big grin*

-----EOM

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Korendil wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Error?

>>>ExCEPT, doesn't fey mean something along the lines of not fearing death, 
or somesuch?<<<

That is one meaning for 'fey.'   However, 'fey' has also had a long 
tradition of meaning effeminate and/or homosexual in English.  I don't 
know whether it has anything to do with the fact that one definition of 
'fey' is 'fairy' or 'elf' in the old Celtic/British sense of the words.  
Remember Morgan La Fey?  Her name meant Morgan the Fairy (or something 
very close).  Anyway, as I said, I don't know that there is any 
connection, but I rather doubt it.  I think the use of 'fey' for 
homosexual predates the use of 'fairy.'

-----EOM

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Diana L. Heald wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: FamReunions

>>>I don't care if your family is crazy or not - cherish these family 
reunions.<<<

I can't cherish the family reunions.  They are awful and I usually end up 
so stressed that I want to have a screaming fit.  I also find myself 
eyeing my kitchen knives and thinking "Noone would ever convict me."

On the other hand, individually, I love my family more than life, even 
the irritating ones.  I guess I will just stick to visiting my family 
individually and meeting them in small doses.  BTW, this does not apply 
to my immediate family or to my grandmother and great-grandmother.  I can 
take them altogether in large doses and love every minute of it.  It is 
just that for some reason, all of my mother's brothers and sisters ended 
up being incredibly different from my mom and her mom and the difference 
is more than I can take in large doses.

>>>I didn't make it to the reunion last year because I was 
busy looking for a job.  We had another one to bury my mother.
This year we had another one to bury my uncle.<<<

Diana, I know how this is and I sympathize.  The last two reunions on my 
father's side of the family were like this.

ObMisty:  How many people here wanted hit Vanyel for the dismissive way 
he treated Savil, just before she was killed.  I am glad that I wasn't 
really there, because I don't think that I could have been nice to him 
after it happened.  It really was his fault that she died, alone and 
unaided.  Shame on him!  I guess it just was a case of "feet of clay."

-----EOM

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Lady Silvermoon wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy+Oathblinded

>>>[about being Master Class] I'd only change one thing, and that would 
be to change her from Master class to Adept,  because I have no idea what 
Master's can do,  and there's tons of info on what Adepts can.<<<

Well, I think that you just need to go back and read the V&H duology. 
There are oodles of things in there about what Masters can do.  Remember 
that Keth was Master level only until halfway through the second book.  
Also, read the short stories about Keth and Tarma.  Keth starts out as a 
Journeyman.  The first Tarma and Kethry story is about Keth's trial to 
become a Master.  That is why she is in that town when she meets up with 
Tarma.  Besides, quite aside from learning all about Master-level magic, 
the books are great fun to read anyway. =)

-----EOM

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 Barbara wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Dutch Braid - Reply

>>>ObMisty: Has anyone ever drawn up a map of Valdemar, with some of the 
storyplaces on it? (me-+AT+-office, books-+AT+-home - buried in boxes)<<<

Well, there are all the maps at the front of the various novels.  Let's 
see, I think that Arrows and LHM series have period maps, and I think 
that one of the V&H (Oathbreaker) has some really extensive maps of the 
countries surrounding Valdemar, all the way to below the Shin'a Dhorisha.

You know what would be great though! If Karen Wynn Fonstad would do one 
of her Atlases about Velgarth.  She does incredible work.  I have both 
the old and revised editions of the Atlas of Middle-Earth and the Atlas 
of Pern.  I would love to see an Atlas of Velgarth.  The cool thing is 
that she is a real cartographer.  She has her degrees from Oklahoma 
University and University of Wisconson-Oshkosh, the two premier Geography 
and Cartography schools in the country (at least, I seem to remember that 
she does.)

-----EOM

On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Michal wrote:

>>>ObMisty: I'm sure there are wolves on Velgarth...anyone remember 
references to them? Just OOC...(no, the ~other~ OOC! ;))<<<

Well, I am not sure about direct references to wolves, but how about the 
fact that everyone thinks that Warrll is either a big dog or a wolf, and 
he is always described as wolf-like?  The latter idea might just be using a 
familiar referent from the real world, but the first one seems to have 
some merit.  Also, isn't there some mention of wolves in the early 
discussions of k'Treva (Darkwind's vale) and in the second Heral Mage 
book when Meke is telling Van about the difficulties on the border?

-----EOM


May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Quand tu entendras le vent dans la vallee,
Que tu verras l'aigle en liberte,
Que tu sentiras le printemps venir en toi,
Ce sera moi, ce sera moi.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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