MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 690

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: REQUEST: Misty Humor file (part 02/05)
	by Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
  2) Pterry / Book Drive / Arkenstone / Humor
	by Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  3) Re: Whole Wheat Braid /bubbles/miw/fey/oathblinded&busted/Jake/Bippy/forgivness
	by michele meredith <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
  4) Re: Arkenstone
	by kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com (Herald Michal)
  5) Re: Vengeance/punishment/religion/shortpeople/Shepard/family
	by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
  6) Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
  7) Re: Firesong+Tremane/Names
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
  8) Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  9) Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 10) Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
	by Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 11) Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
	by Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
 12) Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 13) Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 14) Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
 15) Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 16) Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
	by Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 17) Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
	by Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
 18) Braid: welcome/undine/MaleWriter&FemaleCharacter
	by Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 19) Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 20) Braid:  MistyMusic/Writing/Flaming/.sigs
	by Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:06:16 -0400
From: Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: REQUEST: Misty Humor file (part 02/05)
Message-ID: <960713150616_155267649-+AT+-emout12.mail.aol.com>

Geez I know we aren't sposed to write one line letters but I just have to say
I love the songs, LOL,  Jake must have to much time on your hands but they
are very good.  The Tylendal's Rhapsody is the best so far.  
Encore, Encore.  

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:22:14 -0700
From: Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Pterry / Book Drive / Arkenstone / Humor
Message-ID: <31E82196.79F-+AT+-webspan.net>

undine wrote:
 
> On Sat, 13 Jul 1996 awand123-+AT+-pipeline.com wrote: 
> > >Which of the Small Gods do I make sacrifices to?

> > The God of the Little Folk? <hoping this answer makes me look like I know
> > what I'm talking about>

> Again I was making a Pterry reference. He actually wrote a book called
> _Small Gods. 'Though my personal favorite is Offler <bloodthirsty grin>

"And many shall be his stridings."

The Pterry Discworld CD was HILARIOUS!  Especially with the monk of Offler. 
<laugh>  The voice casting was great on it, especially the late Jon Pertwee. 
 And Dibbler!! <lllll> <composes self> 'scuse me.

!#!#%!#%%!%#!%#!%#!%#!%#!%#!%#!%#%#!!%#!$-+AT+-~#~-+AT+-!#!-+AT+-~~#$-+AT+-#-+AT+-#%!%#!

> > >Finally, count me in for helping Debbie.
> >
> > Okay, I don't get it, helping her with what?
> 
> Debbie recently experienced a fire and someone suggested getting together
> a book drive for her. An idea I wholeheartedly support!!

<raises hand> That was me.

Alright.  Debbie, are you listening? <grin> What I say we could do to help 
replace Debbie's collection is donate a book or two, and send it over.  If 
everyone on the list sends even one book, that should be a good start.  
Alhtough personally I have about 15 or so. <grin>  Debbie, if you're 
reluctant to put your address on the list, send it to me personally.  This is 
still in its early organizational stage but I feel we should help.  Some 
people gfet offended when others offer; Debbie, if I am causing offense, 
please E-mail me and I shall stop.

*&%^$-+AT+-!)(*&^%$-+AT+-##%&%*^&(%&#-+AT+-$%!$~-+AT+--+AT+-$^%$^*^&(*&*()^&*%$^&%&(&*(%^*$^&(

> Jake(who is NOT being called Rynath) 

In the words of a great television personality, "DOH!"

>and Korendil mentioned:
>         _Quest of the Dream Warrior_ by David Arkenstone.
> I must agree. Great music but Misty's short story was a waste of paper.

Maybe "Larry" helped her with that one also. <grin grin> 

It's funny.  I expected the short story to be awesome and the music to be 
so-so.  But every time I listen to "Kyla's Ride" it lifts my spirits.  And I 
loooove the first track.  Of course, *hangs head in shame* I.. also.. was.. 
s--s--singing along to "Herald's Creed" in the car last night... 

*^&%$#&*(^%$#$#^&^&(*&*()%&%#^-+AT+-!#$~-+AT+-#!#^$^*^&*)&(%$^&-+AT+-$%~!-+AT+-$~-+AT+-%-+AT+-$&$

I posted the humor file to the list, but due to my really stupid netscape 
mail program I use at work (since I don't have space for even eudora light or 
pegasus) I don't know if it all went up.  If pieces are missing, please email 
me privately and I will post the missing sections.


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 15:52:55 -0400
From: michele meredith <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Whole Wheat Braid /bubbles/miw/fey/oathblinded&busted/Jake/Bippy/forgivness
Message-ID: <31E7FE97.3202-+AT+-prolog.net>

David Tiffany/Shawn Walker wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 10 Jul 1996 Jake said;
> 
> >>>> At 06:04 PM 7/10/96 +0100, Mishi, who I nominate as Goddess of
> Hyperness and
> Overbubbliness, wrote: [I mean that in a good way, Mishi!]<<<<
> 
> I Second the nomination and call for a vote!:)
> Oh, I'm feeling all warm and bubbily inside (blushes)


> Just me now.. Hope I didn't offend TOO many in the above:) After two weeks
> of Jury duty(and more to come) my brain has melted. lawyers-just say no!!
> Actually, at this point I'm ready to say "Ready, Aim, Fire!"
> Ackkk!!! I have jury duty in about two weeks!!!! I don't want to go, 
wahh!!!!!! I have to remember to tell my boss about it. Yucky :(

Love, luck, and lollipops,
		Mishi

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 12:55:12 -0700 (MST)
From: kirchfa-+AT+-azstarnet.com (Herald Michal)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Arkenstone
Message-ID: <199607131955.MAA10719-+AT+-web.azstarnet.com>

Heyla!

>*&%^$-+AT+-!)(*&^%$-+AT+-##%&%*^&(%&#-+AT+-$%!$~-+AT+--+AT+-$^%$^*^&(*&*()^&*%$^&%&(&*(%^*$^&(
>
>> Jake(who is NOT being called Rynath) 
>
>In the words of a great television personality, "DOH!"
>
>>and Korendil mentioned:
>>         _Quest of the Dream Warrior_ by David Arkenstone.
>> I must agree. Great music but Misty's short story was a waste of paper.
>
>Maybe "Larry" helped her with that one also. <grin grin> 
>
>It's funny.  I expected the short story to be awesome and the music to be 
>so-so.  But every time I listen to "Kyla's Ride" it lifts my spirits.  And I 
>loooove the first track.  Of course, *hangs head in shame* I.. also.. was.. 
>s--s--singing along to "Herald's Creed" in the car last night... 
>
>*^&%$#&*(^%$#$#^&^&(*&*()%&%#^-+AT+-!#$~-+AT+-#!#^$^*^&*)&(%$^&-+AT+-$%~!-+AT+-$~-+AT+-%-+AT+-$&$

Well, I didn't think the book was *that* bad. I mean, it was a wretched waste
of good paper, but considering what it was for...<shrug>
As for the music, it was wonderful. "Road to the Sea" is one of my all-time
favorites (and I feel an urge to worship Cynric whenever I hear it, but
that's another story...*gryn*) and song number three is a great instrumental...
even if I do continually call it "Pavaan's Ride." BTW, how many of you bought
the autographed cd of it from firebird? I would have, but I found it on
sale at a local store I had a gift certificate to, so I saved like seven
bucks and didn't have to wait for shipping...:)

I dunno why everyone hates "Herald's Creed" so much...I mean, IMO, its much more
"palatable" (I'm sure there's an audial equivalent to that...) than, say,
"Winds four Quarters." But that's not saying much...<g>

Zhai'helleva,

*********************************************************   
     Herald Michal Alderan Skysong, Chosen of Tyr
    President of the VEVUWEC and member of the DDMF
    God of Useless Facts and Irellevant Information
*********************************************************


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:00:49 +0000
From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Vengeance/punishment/religion/shortpeople/Shepard/family
Message-ID: <199607132057.PAA23785-+AT+-cdale1.midwest.net>

At  4:31 PM 7-13-96 +0100, Glithoniel-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
>Summersong:  >>Savil's death was the last straw for Vanyel-- after that, he
>just went out and hunted the mage Leareth down.<<  And fell right into
>Leareth's dirty little trap, just as the mage intended.  He acted before he
>thought and it cost him!

Okay, so I *did* forget to include THAT little detail. And, yes, he did
lose his sanity for a while. But remember, it was Leareth's dirty little
plan that made Tylendel kill himself in the first place, if I remember
correctly.

Isn't Falconsbane from the Mage Winds series a reincarnation of Leareth,
who is a reincarnation of Ma'ar? I believe that's what was written. 
Feedback, please?

Love,
Summersong


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:45:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960713173241.23999A-100000-+AT+-wabash.iac.net>



On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Herald Michal wrote:

> >>         _Quest of the Dream Warrior_ by David Arkenstone.
> >> I must agree. Great music but Misty's short story was a waste of paper.
> >
> >Maybe "Larry" helped her with that one also. <grin grin> 
At least noone let him do the "artwork" for the cover <g>

Korendil-I loved your list of Misty/Pterry collaborations. Rincewind's 
been missing in action for awhile hasn't he? I think he was Chosen and is 
riding circuit. Waddaya think? ;)

Summersong, you're correct. Falconsbane and Leareth were incarnations of 
Ma'ar. I think that the second Storm book has the textevd. It's when 
An'desha is exploring some of his memories.

<sheepish grin> Would someone post Cennydd's website info again. My 
stupid computer ate it. (At least that's the story I'm sticking with)

Has anyone else read "sCat" (Misty's short story in Catfantastic IV) yet?

	Undine

unmarked helicopters hovering 
They said it was a weather balloon

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 17:40:28 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Firesong+Tremane/Names
Message-ID: <9607132143.AA00548-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

>
>That isn't always true the only couples lifebonded in the Vanyel Books 
>where himself and Tylendel and then again MArdic and Donni.  Those are 
>the only ones I acn think of.

ALso Starwind(right name?) and Moondance/Tallo, and Randale and 
whatsherhame, and Treven and Jisa.

>
>Another person who lifebonded twice was Keren after Ylsa was killed.
>


Ah, but technically, I think they were ALREADY lifebonded, and didn't no 
so. They had already known each other, so it wasn't like Van and Stef. 
Both cases were extremely irregular, imo....and why did Misty even PUT 
the Keren/Ylsa/Sherrill lifebond in, considering it was never really used 
to full potential like Van and Lendel, Randale and his lifebond, Talia 
and Dirk?

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard 
Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________
__
Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net           |~You build worlds with steel and 
stone 
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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:20:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960713182042.19d752a2-+AT+-webspan.net>

Herald Mike wrote:


<I wrote, about QUEST OF THE DREAM WARRIOR>
>>It's funny.  I expected the short story to be awesome and the music to be 

>>so-so.  But every time I listen to "Kyla's Ride" it lifts my spirits.  And I 

>>loooove the first track.  Of course, *hangs head in shame* I.. also.. was.. 

>>s--s--singing along to "Herald's Creed" in the car last night... 



>Well, I didn't think the book was *that* bad. I mean, it was a wretched waste

>of good paper, but considering what it was for...<shrug>

What do you mean, considering what it was for? <confused look> I thought the
short story was supposed to go along with the music.  Concept albums are
fine, but the progressive stuff from the 70s and 80s are much better,
story-wise. 


>As for the music, it was wonderful. "Road to the Sea" is one of my all-time

>favorites (and I feel an urge to worship Cynric whenever I hear it, but

>that's another story...*gryn*) and song number three is a great instrumental...

>even if I do continually call it "Pavaan's Ride." 

Pavaan? <confused look>  <shrug>  I love this whole CD!  It's not as good as
SHADOW STALKER, but I still reccomend it.

!-+AT+-#$%^*&^%$#-+AT+-!&())_*^%$#-+AT+-!!#$^&*()_+)(**&&^-+AT+-~~-+AT+-#%^&*(


>I dunno why everyone hates "Herald's Creed" so much...I mean, IMO, 
>its much more "palatable" (I'm sure there's an audial equivalent to that...) 
> than, say, "Winds four Quarters." But that's not saying much...<g> 

Well, it depends *which* version of WFQ you is talking about.  The Heather
Alexander one off of MAGIC MOONDUST and MELANCHOLY?  Or the Leslie Fish one
off of THE OATHBOUND? <grins>  And I guess people dislike HERALD'S CREED
because of those goddess-damned midi tunes.  Misty couldn't get someone to
play the trumpet?  Eng's midi movements are bleah, especially in a tape
that's about FANTASY music.  Her instruments sound canned.   I can always
tell when she works on a song.  Like DREAMRIDER (which I love, but the
music.. <shudder>)  I only like HERALD'S CREED because Heather <swoon>
Alexander sings on it...



Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Mary Tyler Moore...

Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
God of Parody and Top Ten Lists / Avatar of Humor
Misty Humor and FAQ archivist ~ http://www.webspan.net/~rynath

Roses are red 
Violets are blue
Space is warped
And so are you.


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 18:39:17 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
Message-ID: <9607132242.AA02047-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

>
>Summersong, you're correct. Falconsbane and Leareth were incarnations of 
>Ma'ar. I think that the second Storm book has the textevd. It's when 
>An'desha is exploring some of his memories.


Actually, it's said there, but also in Winds of Change...Mighta been 
Falconsbane or An'desha, but they were thinking of the past incarnations, 
and mention both Ma'ar and Leareth, and a whole bunch of others we don't 
know....

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard 
Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________
__
Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net           |~You build worlds with steel and 
stone 
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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 18:51:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
Subject: Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960713184236.10794B-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, undine wrote:

> <sheepish grin> Would someone post Cennydd's website info again. My 
> stupid computer ate it. (At least that's the story I'm sticking with)

Ask, and thou shalt receive! =)  The main page (my professional page) is 
at "http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html"  My personal page (with my bio 
and other stuff) is at "http://www.udel.edu/kenny/green.silences.html" 

I will be putting up some more stuff as I get it together.  I would like 
to have pages with my secondary world materials, but it will mean huge 
amounts of typing (the data is all in AppleII format).  Unless anyone 
knows of whether a Mac can read Apple disks?  Then I can pull off the 
text files and reformat.  hmmmmm.  I will have to try this.

Anyway, I will post as the occasion merits and let everyone know if there 
is new cool stuff there that is of interest to the group.  BTW, I have 
only received one recipe so far for the Misty List CookBook--Thanx 
Seranna, it looks yummy!  So please, dig out your cookbooks and recipe 
files or get your moms to write down her recipes for your favorite 
dishes (for those of you who still live at home and don't cook).  
Remember, the recipes don't *have* to be Velgarthan.  As cookbook editor, 
I will supply that kind of content.  Of course, if you have a recipe that 
you think would be typical of a particular culture or if you just want to 
make up a Velgarth context for it, please include that.  If I get more, I 
may start putting them together as a page on my web-site.

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:25:07 -0400
From: Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
Message-ID: <960713192506_237108049-+AT+-emout08.mail.aol.com>

Dear Summersong
    Good to know I'm not the only one,  I keep all the mile and rearrange it
in the filing cabinet,  but I'll have to start deleting them soon I'm
beginning to get overloaded.  Do you know if there are actually songs out by
Lackey I mean I know they are written but has somebody actally recorded
them??  

===========================================================
To all,

What is all this Mage Wars stuff?  I mean it's been explained to me in minor
detail but not anything farther then that?

===========================================================

Ahhhh, what a good day I had today I bought 6 Lackey books I don't own yet.
 I've read half of them but its just nice to own them.  I've only read the
Black Gryphon so far, so what was so bad about the Silver Gryphon?   

==========================================================

Is Lady Thessaly like Head around here?  
Anybody know when she is going to get back??

==========================================================

Adrienne

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 19:38:33 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Arkenstone, Pterry, Ma'ar, Cennydd
Message-ID: <9607132341.AA04265-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

>
>I will be putting up some more stuff as I get it together.  I would like 
>to have pages with my secondary world materials, but it will mean huge 
>amounts of typing (the data is all in AppleII format).  Unless anyone 
>knows of whether a Mac can read Apple disks?  Then I can pull off the 
>text files and reformat.  hmmmmm.  I will have to try this.


Oh yes, Cennydd....mac's can read AppleII disks...why, macs can read 
AppleII, Mac (of course), and PC disks...unlike a certain other type of 
computer......<weg>

ObMisty: Ok, we've seen mention of luck spells twice. First in Oathbound 
there's a reference to them, and then again in Need's story..so why 
haven't they been used?

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________
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Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net           | ~You shape matter /  
Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com| I shape thought~ --Shape in Shadow
IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet| By Heather Alexander



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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 18:50:57 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
Message-ID: <9607132254.AA03107-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

> And I guess people dislike HERALD'S CREED
>because of those goddess-damned midi tunes.

EXACTLY, Jake...first time I listened to it I thought "Gods, MIDI?! Can't 
they do anythign better than *MIDI*?!"

>  Misty couldn't get someone to
>play the trumpet?  Eng's midi movements are bleah, especially in a tape
>that's about FANTASY music.  Her instruments sound canned  
> I can always
>tell when she works on a song.

Uh huh...it gets more...bouncy, less serious, less realistic...makes the 
most dismal of songs...cheerful.

>  Like DREAMRIDER (which I love, but the
>music.. <shudder>)  I only like HERALD'S CREED because Heather <swoon>
>Alexander sings on it...
>

Hai! Is anyone else besides Jake and I beginning to 
actually.Like.Herald's.Creed? Ach. Could barely get it out...'like' and 
'herald's creed' do NOT belong in the same sentence. I'm telling you, 
inbetween those trice-damned midi trumpets they put subliminal messages 
in.
>
>
>Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Mary Tyler Moore...
>
>Jake / Rynath in Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
>God of Parody and Top Ten Lists / Avatar of Humor
>Misty Humor and FAQ archivist ~ http://www.webspan.net/~rynath
>
>Roses are red 
>Violets are blue
>Space is warped
>And so are you.
>


Hahahahahhaha!!! Jake, you're using jsut as long a .sig as me now! And 
because of your white space, it's *longer*! Mwehehehehhehehhe <evil 
mouse-laugh, as Ash so eloquently puts it;>

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard 
Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________
_
Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net           |~You build worlds with steel and 
stone  
Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|/ I build worlds with words alone~
IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|--Heather "ICSTPAMISLG" Alexander



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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 19:51:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960713193856.24599B-100000-+AT+-wabash.iac.net>



On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 Kintara-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

  Do you know if there are actually songs out by
> Lackey I mean I know they are written but has somebody actally recorded
> them??  
You might request a catalog from Firebird Arts & Music -+AT+- 1-800-752-0494
> 
> What is all this Mage Wars stuff?  I mean it's been explained to me in minor
> detail but not anything farther then that?

Since the Master of Karma was kind enough to grant my request, I can pass 
on where to get info about the Magewars. *blows a gentle brine scented 
kiss in Cennydd's direction* http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html  That 
will give you background info and how to subscribe if you're interested.
 > 
  I've only read the
> Black Gryphon so far, so what was so bad about the Silver Gryphon?   
You mean other than the lack of a plot? <G> 
		Undine

"Do you know how wizards like to be buried?"
"Yes!"
"Well how?"
"Reluctantlty."

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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 20:07:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960713200618.188f453c-+AT+-webspan.net>

Korendil wrote:
>> And I guess people dislike HERALD'S CREED
>>because of those goddess-damned midi tunes.
>
>EXACTLY, Jake...first time I listened to it I thought "Gods, MIDI?! Can't 
>they do anythign better than *MIDI*?!"

I figured they could get a whole bunch of trumpet players and stuff, it
would have been cool.  An ACTUAL fanfare in the beginning, going into a
whole big piece.  That's how I orchestrate it in my head.  But the way on
the tape sounds like one of those carousel songs. 

<about Eng's sound>
>Uh huh...it gets more...bouncy, less serious, less realistic...makes the 
>most dismal of songs...cheerful.

If anything <grin> she should have done that for SNOW BEAST.  That's a
dismal song that should have been done MIDI and not on that toy play piano
she did it on...

<snipping .sig>

>Hahahahahhaha!!! Jake, you're using jsut as long a .sig as me now! And 
>because of your white space, it's *longer*! Mwehehehehhehehhe <evil 
>mouse-laugh, as Ash so eloquently puts it;>

<snipping .sig>

How silly of me.  Thanks for pointing it out, I fixed it.

Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Mary Tyler Moore...

Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net> / http://www.webspan.net~rynath
Misty Humor compiler and Misty Information FAQ Administrator
God of Parody and Top Ten Lists / Avatar of Humor
Champion of the Ladies in Green

"What kind of lunatic are you?"
'A complete one ... the best kind!'


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:04:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960713204709.3030A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 Kintara-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

>     Good to know I'm not the only one,  I keep all the mile and rearrange it
> in the filing cabinet,  but I'll have to start deleting them soon I'm
> beginning to get overloaded.  Do you know if there are actually songs out by
> Lackey I mean I know they are written but has somebody actally recorded
> them??  

You'll get a lot more info from others, I am sure, so I will just say 
that Misty is a very well known filk (fant-fi folk music) writer and 
there are at least 4 or 5 albums of her music available from Firebird 
Books and Music.

> What is all this Mage Wars stuff?  I mean it's been explained to me in minor
> detail but not anything farther then that?

If you are interested you can go to my personal home page at 
"http://www.udel.edu/kenny/green.silences.html" where I have a link to 
the magewar archives that are maintained by Lady Jaguar.  I would have 
given you the direct URL, but I can't remember it, off-hand.  

Basically, the Mage War is a collective form of madness known as a 
Role-Playing Game.  We all create personas and write interactive, 
cooperative stories about various adventures.  The participants are 
organized, rather loosely, into various groups.  Right now, I think that 
Ladies in Green may be the only really active group.  We were formed to 
protect the innocent and helpless from the pun-nishing depredations of 
the Men In White, a group of evil Piers Anthony fans led by the 
redoubtable Gyrfalcon (And no, Gyr, I don't believe your protests any 
more than Lady Jag does! *grin*).  Other groups, which seem to be much 
less active at the moment, but are usually quite involved are the Cat 
People, led by Lady Jag, and the SunBolts, led by Capt. Catherine 
Sundancer.  A less populous group is the Ones in Black (Jake knows more 
about them than I do).  If you would like to join a group just talk to 
the leader (LIG = Lady Tammy, CP = Lady Jag, SunBolts = Catherine, and 
OIB = Jake).  Or you can join in the mayhem as an unaffiliated member.

> Is Lady Thessaly like Head around here?  
> Anybody know when she is going to get back??

Lady Thessa is a list member like the rest of us.  However, she is the 
Goddess of Nomenclature (she started the whole divinity thing) and enjoys 
a certain standing on the list since she is the only one who can name you 
to a godhead.  If you wanna be a Goddess (or God, for that matter--who am 
I to say you have to be bound by earthly sex?), you will need to petition 
her for that.  On the other hand, that is about the only thing that you 
need her permission to do.  The real person in charge is Auntie Mel, our 
occasionally cranky, but always delightful ListMistress.

Hope this answered some of your questions.  Clearly we need to get a List 
FAQ with this info going.  I am starting to work on some FAQ stuff of 
this sort.  I know that Jake is doing the FAQ for the books, but I 
thought I might tackle the self-referential FAQ (the FAQ about the Misty 
List personalities and idiosyncracies).  Any help (suggestions for 
questions to be answered, etc.) will be appreciated and rewarded with my 
fabu cyber-magery creations. =)

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:28:12 -0400
From: Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey mailing list
Message-ID: <960713212811_576156877-+AT+-emout12.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 96-07-13 21:04:41 EDT, you write:

<< Basically, the Mage War is a collective form of madness known as a 
 Role-Playing Game.  We all create personas and write interactive, 
 cooperative stories about various adventures.  The participants are 
 organized, rather loosely, into various groups.  Right now, I think that 
 Ladies in Green may be the only really active group.  We were formed to 
 protect the innocent and helpless from the pun-nishing depredations of 
 the Men In White, a group of evil Piers Anthony fans led by the 
 redoubtable Gyrfalcon (And no, Gyr, I don't believe your protests any 
 more than Lady Jag does! *grin*).  Other groups, which seem to be much 
 less active at the moment, but are usually quite involved are the Cat 
 People, led by Lady Jag, and the SunBolts, led by Capt. Catherine 
 Sundancer.  A less populous group is the Ones in Black (Jake knows more 
 about them than I do).  If you would like to join a group just talk to 
 the leader (LIG = Lady Tammy, CP = Lady Jag, SunBolts = Catherine, and 
 OIB = Jake).  Or you can join in the mayhem as an unaffiliated member. >>

Sounds cool, I RPG a lot but never in a mailing list before.  

OK I went to the web site and read it and it sounds good and would like to
talk to Lady Jag to find out more about the cat-people.  Sounds like the
group I would join.

Adrienne



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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Braid: welcome/undine/MaleWriter&FemaleCharacter
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960713214635.9202A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Kintara wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: ???

>>>I really enjoy Mercedes Lacjey and would love to know what's going on.<<<

Well, hopefully you are starting to catch on.  We are just a little 
weird, but very fun once you are infect...I mean *used* to us! <weg> 

Seriously, things are a little off-topic right now because we are waiting 
for Misty to come out with something new.  Once she does, the misty 
content will pick up dramatically.

On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, undine wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: OP, Rolan, Pterry, Debbie

>>>1. Amazon.com--totally cool.<<<

Oh, I am glad that you said this.  I was worried that I might be 
betraying a fellow list-member by proselytizing for a rival bookstore.  
But it really was just too awesome to not mention!  I am adding a link to 
my page that will take people there.

>>>Why? Because as long as a book hasn't been officially taken 
out of print, they (publishers) don't have to write that final royalty 
check.<<<

Hmmmm, is that why?  How tacky!  I think I will have to make sure that 
that shows up on their karmic record. =)

-----EOM

On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Megan wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Vanyel/newbies/divorce

>>>Personally, I have yet to find a male author (of any persuasion) who 
"rings true" when writing in the first person as a female character.  I would
imagine the reverse is true for men.<<<

Really?  I haven't had this experience at all.  Of course, I haven't run 
across any books written in the first person, either.  I assume that you 
mean books which have a female protaganist?  In that case, I can say that 
I have never noticed much of a difference between good male and female 
writers when it comes to their development of female characters.  Oh, 
I'll admit that there are some male writers who have obviously created 
their female characters mostly as wish-fulfillment, but on the other 
hand, they aren't particularly good writers in the first place. =)  I 
would say that the major difference I notice between fant-fi from male 
and female writers is in the settings and plots, not in the 
characterization.  Thus, you are more likely to find that a traditional 
violent action and war plot is from a male author (not all of them of 
course, and women write these stories also) while a domestic action or 
interpersonal relationship plot is more likely to come from a female 
author.  In neither case is there any deterministic relationship between 
sex/gender of author and plot-type, but I think that we can say that 
general correlation does exist. 

-----EOM


May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 20:57:23 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed
Message-ID: <9607140100.AA06194-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

>How silly of me.  Thanks for pointing it out, I fixed it.
>
>Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Mary Tyler Moore...
>
>Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net> / http://www.webspan.net~rynath
>Misty Humor compiler and Misty Information FAQ Administrator
>God of Parody and Top Ten Lists / Avatar of Humor
>Champion of the Ladies in Green
>
>"What kind of lunatic are you?"
>'A complete one ... the best kind!'


Well, actually, Jake, you haven't.....see, your's is 9 lines, while mine 
is....7;P 

OK, now, what song is Snow Beast? Is that the horrible one, the one about 
the cold-drake? You know..the one that's the musical equivalent to Bard's 
Tales <sheeps from Jake>? NO..that's something like the ColdDrake's Eyes, 
isn't it? 

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________

Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net           | ~You shape matter /  
Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com| I shape thought~ --Shape in Shadow
IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet| By Heather Alexander



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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 21:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Braid:  MistyMusic/Writing/Flaming/.sigs
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960713214755.9202B-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Korendil wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Um...a few things, combined into one to avoid One-liners;>

[snippage of, among other things, a list of Misty's musical faves]

Hmmmm.  Except for the Narada stuff, the woman has excellent and eclectic 
tastes. 

-----EOM

On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Korendil also wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy/Age/Name/Archive/Alderaan/Green 
Mage/She

>>>Ye' know, Cennydd, after reading that post, I said to my friend on irc "I 
think Cennydd SERIOUSLY need some help."....after he checked his email, 
he went "hahahhaha"....but after that *and* the Magewar post in one 
day...gods, Cen, ye' should write!<<<

I do.  Didn't you just read it?  Actually, the main problem is that after 
I have finished writing my academic papers, I usually don't even want to 
contemplate writing anything else.  However, if you are really interested 
in my writing, I have a 40 page paper on Movement-Triggered Object 
Agreement in French, or a shorter (and fluffier) paper on an Optimality 
Theory analysis of Catalan syllable structure.  (Now you can see why I am 
so useless after I write these things! *grin*)

>>>(This is all in fun Cen...<<<

Of course, *Cennydd concentrates briefly and sends a little surprise 
present Korendil's way.* Of course, I believe you! =)

>>>And Sal, don't feel too miffed. I bet Cennydd woulda' done it to 
anyone...=)<<<

Actually, at this point, there are probably a whole list of people who 
have received one of my patented little flame-visits.  I think that Glith 
had the honor of being the first, but there are definitely a few others 
you can talk to, Sal.  Maybe you can all come visit me in my Halls?  I 
could use the work-out.  Those MIW weren't much of a challenge. *mwahaha*

-----EOM

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Korendil wrote (God, you *are* prolific, aren't you?):

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Dave Arkenstone / Herald's Creed

>>>Hahahahahhaha!!! Jake, you're using jsut as long a .sig as me now! And 
because of your white space, it's *longer*!<<<

Sorry Korendil, but you are wrong.  If you remove the line-spacing, 
Jake's sig is still shorter than yours.  Remember, any white space that 
is after an EOL character is just background and not part of the file.  
The only white space that really counts is the space before you get to 
the end of a line.

Textevd (I deleted the EOL characters and replaced them with a normal 
single space character):

As you can see Jake has the equivalent of 4 lines of text:
  
Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Mary Tyler Moore...  Jake / Rynath in 
Green <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net> God of Parody and Top Ten Lists / Avatar of 
Humor Misty Humor and FAQ archivist ~  http://www.webspan.net/~rynath 
Roses are red Violets are blue Space is warped And so are you.

While Kore has the equivalent of 8 lines.

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, 
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things 
Nocturnal, Bibliomaniac, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard  
Co-Owner.   _______________________________________________________
____________________ Email: korendil-+AT+-icubed.net           |~You build 
worlds with steel and stone   Email: jon_rubin-+AT+-bam_online.tfnet.com|/ I 
build worlds with words  alone~ IRC: Korendil on #macintosh; Undernet|-- 
Heather "ICSTPAMISLG" Alexander

The upshot is that Korendil, you still have a sig that is twice as long 
as Jake's.  Sorry.

-----EOM


May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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