MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 693

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Reality of Fantasy | FAQ Thanks
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  2) Keren/Ylsa/Sherrill
	by JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com
  3) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by Jedi Master <yoda-+AT+-netrix.net>
  4) Monty Python in Velgarth
	by LilacFairy-+AT+-aol.com
  5) Mark Shepard, Welcome Mandy, ice cream
	by aw2-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Austin Wand)
  6) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by samcpa-+AT+-rtd.com
  7) Silver Gryphon
	by philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
  8) Re: Monty Python in Velgarth
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  9) Welcome!
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 10) character/
	by The Custer Family <jcuster-+AT+-alpha.clarion-net.com>
 11) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele)
 12) Vampire Novels
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 13) Re: Firesong+Tremane/Names
	by Sean Talbot <ad074-+AT+-freenet.durham.org>
 14) Re: Firesong+Tremane/Names
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 15) Re: Reality of Fantasy | FAQ Thanks
	by mishi <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
 16) Re: Reality of Fantasy
	by Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
 17) Lifebonds/Fic. Chars/Python
	by Megan Smith <megan-+AT+-wwdc.com>
 18) 
	by philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
 19) 
	by philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
 20) Re: Reality of Fantasy / Tremane & Solaris
	by Caryn Babstock <carynb-+AT+-io.org>
 21) 
	by philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
 22) Re: 
	by Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
 23) lifebonds, characters, snipping
	by Jedi Master <yoda-+AT+-netrix.net>
 24) Braid:  PA/Kali Yuga/casting/vampires/ice-cream
	by Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:11:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy | FAQ Thanks
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960714181025.1fbfa1ce-+AT+-webspan.net>

Milady Sal wrote:

>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?

<grins> Back in February, when this came around, I said I would *love* to
meet Kerowyn. <sigh> <swoon> Who *cares* about her bonded!

It's really pathetic to moon over a fictional character, but some ladies
drool over Vanyel, so I don't feel as bad.  That reminds me of a terrible
version of Kerowyn's Ride I posted back in February. <laughing evilly to
self> Well, it was only the first verse, but still.  I still remember it
too... <chuckle>

But I'm cheating, because there's others.  This is a great one.

I'd love to hear C.M.O.T. Dibbler in person. <grin> (Mandatory Pterry
influence for this message.) Or anyone from Pterry's creations.  Well,
except Vertinari <sp>.  He sounds like one mean person.

I know this might be hokey, but I would love to meet Elminster. (Book:
ELMINSTER: THE MAKING OF A MAGE by Ed Greenwood) Sure, it's TSR hack stuff,
but the character is great. 

Marita from SABLE, SHADOW and ICE by Cheryl Franklin.  Just finished this
book and I loved it.

There's ooodles and ooodles of others (Fflewder Fflam (sp) from the
CHRONICLES OF PRYDAIN (sp) by Lloyd Alexander comes to mind too).  Gods.  I
can't narrow it down..

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Just a big thank you to everyone who has helped out so far on the FAQ.  As
God of Humor, I'm limited to what gifts I can bestow, but I bestow immunity
from parody for at least a week to everyone that's helped so far. <checking
off list>.


Keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down,

Jake

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:16:11 -0400
From: JSteinb103-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Keren/Ylsa/Sherrill
Message-ID: <960714181610_434073370-+AT+-emout13.mail.aol.com>

Korendil wrote:

 >> and why did Misty even PUT the Keren/Ylsa/Sherrill lifebond in,
considering it was never really used to full potential like Van and Lendel,
Randale and his lifebond, Talia
and Dirk? <<

1)  To show Talia's growth as an empath and her ability to come up with 
Korendil wrote: 

>> and why did Misty even PUT the Keren/Ylsa/Sherrill lifebond in,
considering it was never really used to full potential like Van and Lendel,
Randale and his lifebond, Talia
and Dirk? <<

1) To show Talia's growth, through the use of  her empathic gift to solve
increasingly serious problems.  It's one thing to counsel Selenay in the
garden when they meet, supposedly by accident.  It's a lot more to stop Keren
from committing suicide.
2) To illustrate the existence and tolerance (?) of same-sex relationships

*******************
Cennydd:  IIRC, Some time back you were trying to compile a list of fantasy
with l/g/b characters.  Does this list exist?  

Julia Lynn

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 96 16:22:31 -0600
From: Jedi Master <yoda-+AT+-netrix.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <9607142222.AA03187-+AT+-netrix.net>

>At  4:18 PM 7-14-96 +0100, Sal wrote:
>>OK!  Part One has been a great success so far...
>>
>>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
>>
>>For me, in order, it would be Colonel John Cathal Graham from Katherine
>>Kurtz's Lammas Night (my all-time favorite book in any genre), because
>>meeting him in the book was just such an incredible experience I'd like to
>>meet him in Real Fanatasy Life... Second choice would be Talia, because I
>>feel like I'm a lot like her, then Kero, because I think she's really
>>cool.
>>
>> - Sal
>
>I'd love to meet Elspeth and Darkwind. They're only two of my LONG list of
>favorite characters. I'd also like to meet Andrew "Ender" Wiggin from
>"Ender's Game" series by Orson Scott Card. He faced a lot of hardship as a
>child, destroyed an alien race without even knowing, and then flew off to
>the stars, forever young. 
>
>Love,
>Summersong
>
>
--------
        I'd settle for meeting any of my favorite characters (some of the
great many are listed above), but if I had to choose just one..it would
definately be Vanyel.  His character IS "bigger than life", but his
character is also the most personable in my opinion.  He's my fav fantasy
person, and I'm sure that if I actually got the chance to meet him, I'd
faint right away..but it would be nifty! :)

Wind To Thy Wings,
        Mandy


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:30:15 -0400
From: LilacFairy-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Monty Python in Velgarth
Message-ID: <960714183014_434080459-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com>

In recent days Jake wrote:

>VAN: Yet another parody.
>With apologies to Monty Python's Flying Circus
>New Lyrics by Jake Adamo <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
>=============================================================
>
>Van, Van, Van, Van,
>Van, Van, Van, Van <repeat ad infinitum>

After days of having "Van Van Van Van" running endlessly through her brain
-what little is left of it- the Lilac Fairy delurks to suggest the following
challenges to Jake:

Challenge the First: The Shin'a'in Song

Michael Palin as An'desha, backed by the Fred Tomlinson Singers as
Kal'enedral:

   Oh, I'm a Shin'a'in and I'm okay
   I sleep all night and I ...

Challenge the Second: The Dead Bondbird Sketch

John Cleese in a very bad wig as Darkwind: Look my lad, I know a dead
bondbird when I see one and I'm looking at one right now!

Challenge the Third: a Python-Vanyel sketch with MIchael Palin as Withen,
Eric Idle as Treesa, Graham Chapman as Savil and Terry Jones as Vanyel

Withen (his arm around Vanyel's shoulder): Just think, lad , someday all this
will be yours!

Vanyel: What, the curtains? But I don't want all that! I just want to- to
sing!

With a <weg> the Lilac Fairy returns to her forest bower, gleefully content
with having caused enough trouble in her first post to the list.

Lilac Fairy, Godmother At Large
aka Lee Cox, Mundane Library Cataloger
"Making trouble in the Greater San Francisco Bay Area since 1957"

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:11:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: aw2-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Austin Wand)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Mark Shepard, Welcome Mandy, ice cream
Message-ID: <v01540b00ae0ee7e067b6-+AT+-[169.132.99.145]>

okay, thanks to whoever replied (sorry, I went on a deleting frenzy...) but
um, what on *earth* is Dragon*com (not that you people are too earthly
anyway <grin>)

Mandy, welcome to the list, let me be the second to welcome you <bows
elaborately and trips on her ridiculously long summer skirt> (I hope), and
any other newbies that are lurking about, too. I haven't gotten any
subburns yet (much) but I'm waiting for one... <bg>

ObMisty: I was jsut out eating sorbet and despeartely trying not to have it
drip all over me... so, is there any ice cream in Velgarth? <makes a face>
Yech, that delivery sounded awful. How about, "Can mages create ice cream?
If they don't know what it looks like, or tastes like?" That sounds pretty
lousy too, but it *an* ObMisty <laugh>

Love,
Kimberly ("don't call me Austin")



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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:48:37 -0700 (MST)
From: samcpa-+AT+-rtd.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <199607142248.PAA14206-+AT+-seagull.rtd.com>

>At  4:18 PM 7-14-96 +0100, Sal wrote:
>>OK!  Part One has been a great success so far...
>>
>>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
>>
>>For me, in order, it would be Colonel John Cathal Graham from Katherine
>>Kurtz's Lammas Night (my all-time favorite book in any genre), because
>>meeting him in the book was just such an incredible experience I'd like to
>>meet him in Real Fanatasy Life... Second choice would be Talia, because I
>>feel like I'm a lot like her, then Kero, because I think she's really
>>cool.
>>
>> - Sal

I'd would like to meet Van. Why? He seems like the kind of guy I would like 
to mee.  I'd also like to meet Ender, and maybe his sister Valentine.

Summersong wrote:
>
>I'd love to meet Elspeth and Darkwind. They're only two of my LONG list of
>favorite characters. I'd also like to meet Andrew "Ender" Wiggin from
>"Ender's Game" series by Orson Scott Card.

I thought the first book was called "Ender's Game", and the series was 
called "Ender" (sometimes I scare myself).  

Summersong wrote:
>He faced a lot of hardship as a
>child, destroyed an alien race without even knowing, and then flew off to
>the stars, forever young. 
>
>Love,
>Summersong
>
But he didn't stay young.  Have you read the other two books?

************************************************************************
Stephen Moore                   
E-Mail- samcpa-+AT+-rtd.com              

"Silly sheep
go to sleep.
We will watch around you keep
through the night be dark and deep
nothing past us dares to creep
go to sleep." -Holderkin Sheep-Song
************************************************************************


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:59:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Silver Gryphon
Message-ID: <199607142259.SAA19240-+AT+-smtp2.erols.com>

Hi guys.

Over the last coulpe weeks, I've heard a lot of people complaining about how
weak the Silver Gryphon was.  I don't think it was bad, but to me, it seemed
to make a better companion story, rather than the conclusion of the trilogy.
the first two books were better.

:)
Ami


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:03:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Monty Python in Velgarth
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960714190217.19ef7134-+AT+-webspan.net>

(Author's note: Alright, Lilac, just to explain... Lady Thess who is on
vacation right now has deemed certain people on the mailing list gods and
goddesses. <grin> So the reply is in that respect.  I'm not really this
pretentious by nature. For more info, contact her when she comes back onlist.)

Sitting on his lounge chair at Dunmanifestin in the center of Discworld (1)
the God of Parody and Top Ten Lists turned away from his listening to "A
Wizard's Staff Has A Knob on the End" and to his latest challenge. It came
from a piece of paper which materialized in front of him.

"Offler!  Come look at this!" He said.  "An actual request!"

He perused the runes and read: (from Lilac Fairy)

>After days of having "Van Van Van Van" running endlessly through her brain
>-what little is left of it- the Lilac Fairy delurks to suggest the following
>challenges to Jake:

>Challenge the First: The Shin'a'in Song
>Challenge the Second: The Dead Bondbird Sketch
>Challenge the Third: a Python-Vanyel sketch with MIchael Palin as Withen,
>Eric Idle as Treesa, Graham Chapman as Savil and Terry Jones as Vanyel

>With a <weg> the Lilac Fairy returns to her forest bower, gleefully content
>with having caused enough trouble in her first post to the list.

"Those damned fairies. Always causing trouble."  Jake chuckled to himself as
he set himself upon this new task.  (2)

Goddess bless,

Jake

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Footnotes:

(1) I know this is a Mercedes Lackey list, but who wants to live with
Vikandis or the Star-Eyed?  And I hear the Wind Gods of Iftel are a real
bore.  So I've moved to Dunmanifestin in Discworld.  If I gotta be a god,
I'll be one in style.  Offler is more fun, anyway.

(2) I do not take requests in general, but these are too good to pass up.
<grin> But Lilac, when I finish these eventually, no complaining if you
can't get them out of your head!  FAQ work is on hold!

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:11:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Welcome!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960714191032.1fbfb6f2-+AT+-webspan.net>

Lilac Fairy wrote:

>With a <weg> the Lilac Fairy returns to her forest bower, gleefully content
>with having caused enough trouble in her first post to the list.

<With a *poof* the resident list humorist and one man welcommittee appears>

Welcome, milady Lilac to the mailing list!  Or welcome to active
participation, <grin> as the case may be.  We're all one big happy family
here, and, even though we're in a snit now because there's no Misty books,
once one is written--

::Even if it was as bad as Silver Gryphon:::

--yes, yes, even if it was as bad as Silver Gryphon (shutup, Rynath) we'll
get a-rolling with enough Misty content to redecorate your house in e-mail
wallpaper.

Bienvenue!

Peace and Balance

Jake

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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:17:30 -0400
From: The Custer Family <jcuster-+AT+-alpha.clarion-net.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: character/
Message-ID: <199607152217.SAA09130-+AT+-alpha.clarion-net.com>

Sal wrote:

>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
>
>For me, in order, it would be Colonel John Cathal Graham from Katherine
>Kurtz's Lammas Night (my all-time favorite book in any genre)

I think I would rather meet Adam Sinclair of Katherine Kurtz's Adept series.
Have you read any of those yet? Sinclair actually meet Colonel Graham in the
third book.

In Misty's books, the character I would prefer to meet would be..., hmm, I
can't seem to make up my mind on that one. There are several I would like to
meet for different reasons. Kerowin 'cause she seems a lot like one of my
very good friends, Jadrek 'cause I love to talk to (honestly, debate with)
scholars about anything and everything, Kethry so we can talk about the
different types of magic, etc. 

Jake wrote:
>I read the last entry in that series, and when Vicky was converted, I put
>the book down in disgust.  It was such a cliche'd ending.  Not as bad as
>Michael Romkey's vampire books, though.  THOSE are both cliche AND copout
>from the start.
>
Do you like vampire books? Have you tried Fred Saberhagen's yet?

Morgana's sig had:
>** You remind me of the babe. What babe? The babe with the power. What 
>power? The power of voodoo. What do? You do. Do what? Remind me of the 
>babe.**

Another Bowie fan! Or should I say another Labyrinth fan? I'm both. I have
the video of Labyrinth, plus 2 different CD's from the movie. (One is the
Japanese release, it has a slightly different cover, pluc a lyric sheet in
Japanese.)

Sharon







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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:28:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <199607142328.TAA20008-+AT+-victory.soonet.ca>

At  4:18 PM 7-14-96 +0100, Sal wrote:
OK!  Part One has been a great success so far...
Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
--------------------------------

That's a tough one!  I guess if I had to pick just one, I would have
to choose Cohen the Barbarian.  Imagine the shtories he could tell!
____________________________________________________________________________
 Michele, Goddess of Botanical Blight |/   Making toast at the fireside,
 and Tony, Master of a Rather Small -\|  Nurse fell in the grate and died.
    Collection of Power Tools.    --\ |  But what makes it ten times worse,
    Email: skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca      *  \| All the toast was burned with Nurse.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,|,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,- H. Graham


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:23:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Vampire Novels
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960714202238.1d17e8aa-+AT+-webspan.net>

Sharon Wrote:

>Jake wrote:

>>I read the last entry in that series, and when Vicky was converted, I put
>>the book down in disgust.  It was such a cliche'd ending.  Not as bad as
>>Michael Romkey's vampire books, though.  THOSE are both cliche AND copout
>>from the start.

>Do you like vampire books? Have you tried Fred Saberhagen's yet?

I read THE HOLMES-DRACULA FILE which I enjoyed very much.  

Hmm.  Barbra Hambly's THOSE WHO HUNT THE NIGHT was uninspired... the White
Wolf stuff (DARK PRINCE, etc) was alright, but now vampires are "hip" (which
disgusts me to no end, and is why I got out of the gothic scene) and I
haven't read anything new lately, except maybe the anthology LOVE IN VEIN
edited by Poppy Z. Brite.

==================================================

OBMISTY: What about the undead in Velgarth?  I don't remember any specific
instances of it being mentioned.  I'm not just talking about vampires but
zombies, skeletons, banshees, etc.  Sure, we've got Vanyel and Stefanlendel
in the Forest of Sorrows, but I'd figure they were benevolent guardian
spirits.  No necromancy in Velgarth?

And PLEASE someone tell me what the big deal is about Andre! <grin>

Peace and Balance,

Jake

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:23:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sean Talbot <ad074-+AT+-freenet.durham.org>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Firesong+Tremane/Names
Message-ID: <199607150023.AA31763-+AT+-freenet.durham.org>

I agree with your points.  The person who is lifebonded to Randale was 
Shavri.

Keren was lifebonded twice though because it was to two different people 
even though she had the lifebond at the same time.

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:35:36 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Firesong+Tremane/Names
Message-ID: <9607150038.AA13140-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

>Keren was lifebonded twice though because it was to two different people 
>even though she had the lifebond at the same time.
>


IMO, it was the same lifebond...it was a three-some lifebond, and IIRC, 
somehwere Keren mentions that if sherrill had come to them beforehand 
they would have welcomed her...

Hre's the way I see it:

Three people destined to be lifebonded:

Sherrill
Keren
Ylsa

two thirds of the bond meet, yet it isn't a full lifebond, 'cause 
Sherrill isn't there.

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:45:46 -0400
From: mishi <mishi-+AT+-prolog.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy | FAQ Thanks
Message-ID: <31E994BA.27A7-+AT+-prolog.net>

Jake wrote:
> 
> Milady Sal wrote:
> 
> >Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
> 
> I know this might be hokey, but I would love to meet Elminster. (Book:
> ELMINSTER: THE MAKING OF A MAGE by Ed Greenwood) Sure, it's TSR hack stuff,
> but the character is great.

I would like to meet Elminster as well. But I would really like to meet 
Drizzt Do'Urden, Cattie-Brie, Wulfgar, Regis, and Breunor Battlehammer 
from the Icewind Dale Triolgy by R.A. Salvatore. 

I would also like to meet Warrl and oh I forgot his name Warrl's cousin 
that babysits the gryphlets (Ris or something of the sort I think). I 
think that they would be neat to talk to.

Love, luck, and lollipops,
		Mishi

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:44:23 -0400
From: Kintara-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy
Message-ID: <960714204422_155980925-+AT+-emout13.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 96-07-14 17:58:01 EDT, you write:

<< I'd love to meet Elspeth and Darkwind. They're only two of my LONG list of
 favorite characters. I'd also like to meet Andrew "Ender" Wiggin from
 "Ender's Game" series by Orson Scott Card. He faced a lot of hardship as a
 child, destroyed an alien race without even knowing, and then flew off to
 the stars, forever young.  >>

Finally somebody mentions them I haven't heard any mention of Elspeth or
Darkwind or Nyara or Skif.  I too like Darkwind but would also like to meet
Nyara and Need.  Elspeth was OK but not at the top of the list.

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How many people on this mailing list like Robert Jordan?  Somebody (not
naming names or anything. Jake!)  Keeps bad mouthing him and he writes really
decent plots they are just a tad long.


Adrienne
Haven't figured out what to be goddess of yet.
Haven't talked any more about the Mage Wars.

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There was a little girl she had a little curl,
Right in the middle of her forehead, 
And when she was good she was very, very good;
But when she was bad she was horrid. ::WEG::
--------Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:26:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Megan Smith <megan-+AT+-wwdc.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Lifebonds/Fic. Chars/Python
Message-ID: <199607150226.VAA22272-+AT+-zap.wwdc.com>

>in fact, they could all have died in infancy, and Talia would--ok, I found
only 
>one place they were needed, to save Talia...but a lifebond? You'd think the 
>Gods would be more effiecient...

>korendil

But where's the poetry in that?<G>  Why else read the books?

As to the python challenges:  I agree - can we simply unilaterally
commission Jake to do these?  Please-please-please?  Is there a deity out
there with that kind of power?

>OK!  Part One has been a great success so far...
>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?

Sci-Fi: Paul Muadib/Atreides!
S&S-Fi: Solaris (Velgarth)

That's me, rebel without a role-model<G>

Megan Smith (megan-+AT+-wwdc.com)


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:37:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Message-ID: <199607150137.VAA00263-+AT+-smtp1.erols.com>

On Sun, Jul 14, Shadow-lover wrote:> It's not said, but from what we know
about from Storm Breaking
>(Which I just finished reading yesterday...  I didn't think it'd be out
>until September!) V'kandis is the Star-Eyed's ONLY consort...  So I kinda
>put two and two together..
>
Storm Breaking's out????  Where???  I go to the bookstore everyday and I
haven't ssen it (anyway, I thought it wasn't gonna be out till october and
had more or less resigned myself to the loooooooooooooong wait, but kept on
hoping...).

:)
Ami


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:44:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Message-ID: <199607150144.VAA00785-+AT+-smtp1.erols.com>

On Sun, Jul 14, Sal wrote

>OK!  Part One has been a great success so far...
>
>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
>
I'd like to meet Talia and Solaris.  Talia because she was the first ML
character I read about and because I identify with her.  Also because AOQ
has always kind of been my favourite ML trilogy (although the Storms trilogy
will tie w/ it if _SBreaking doesn't turn ou like _SGryphon).  I'd like to
meet Solaris just because she's a formidable but fascinating person.  I'd
also like to meet Tannim, just 'cuz he sounds so cute.
:)
Ami


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:47:58 -0400
From: Caryn Babstock <carynb-+AT+-io.org>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Reality of Fantasy / Tremane & Solaris
Message-ID: <199607150147.VAA20409-+AT+-io.org>

>At  4:18 PM 7-14-96 +0100, Sal wrote:
>OK!  Part One has been a great success so far...
>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?
>--------------------------------

That's actually a pretty easy one:  Diarmuid dan Ailell, from _The Fionavar
Tapestry_.  I think he's one of the most fascinating characters in sf.
Others high up on my list: Enger Wiggin, and Kerowyn.

-----------------

Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Tremane and
Solaris as a lifebonded couple.  Granted, the murder of Urtho is a _little_
(insert loads of sarcasm here) bit of a barrier, but those as a couple
appeals to my sense of irony - or maybe it just the result of reading too
many series romance novels as a child.  

Caryn
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:54:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: philip dancause <dancause-+AT+-erols.com>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Message-ID: <199607150154.VAA01296-+AT+-smtp1.erols.com>

Kory wrote:

>Hre's the way I see it:
>
>Three people destined to be lifebonded:
>
>Sherrill
>Keren
>Ylsa
>
>two thirds of the bond meet, yet it isn't a full lifebond, 'cause 
>Sherrill isn't there.
>
But if you look at it that way, it never is a true lifebond because Sherrill
and Keren don't bond until Ylsa's death.  Thus, all you ever have is
two-thirds of the lifebond.  Unless you can have a three-way bond with a
spirit........
:)
Ami


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 96 22:21:16 -0400
From: Korendil <korendil-+AT+-icubed.net>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 
Message-ID: <9607150224.AA15700-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net>

>But if you look at it that way, it never is a true lifebond because Sherrill
>and Keren don't bond until Ylsa's death.  Thus, all you ever have is
>two-thirds of the lifebond.  Unless you can have a three-way bond with a
>spirit........
>:)
>Ami
>

Exactly. It's a very sad case...very romantic, though...they just never 
get the chance to all meet. BTW, Speaking of wink links in the plot...did 
we ever see any other signs Sherrill was SHAYCH, let alone interested in 
Ylsa and Keren, before the night ylsa died?

Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court,
Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All Things
Nocturnal, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and #Asgard Co-Owner. 
___________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:41:38 -0600
From: Jedi Master <yoda-+AT+-netrix.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: lifebonds, characters, snipping
Message-ID: <9607150241.AA09293-+AT+-netrix.net>

Hello-
        Thanks for helping me figure out what snipping is..but now I've got
another question.  Braiding?!  I work from Eudora Light, can anyone help me
figure out how to braid?  Told ya I didn't know anything about computers!
hehe.. If any of you decide to take the challenge of helping an incredible
novice, please explain in VERY simple terms...hehe.

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I thought that Sherrill (sp?), Ylsa, and Keren played a fairly important
part in Talia's life, so even if they weren't featured characters, their
lifebond fit in ok.  Sherrill was Talia's closest friend almost, and Keren
was her mentor, and Ylsa..well..  So they did play a very important part in
Talia's life, and the shaping of who she was..not to mention they saved her
life.  But why the three-way lifebond?..maybe JUST to have something new and
interesting thrown in? That's a good purpose for it, :)

-------------

There's SO many great characters out there in the fantasy world that I would
love to meet..like I said before, Vanyel would still be my number one
choice.  But I got to thinking, and I think YFANDES would be even better to
meet.  People are great and all...but to actually meet a companion would be
faboo!

Happy Reading!
        Mandy


        


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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:50:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Master of Karma <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: Misty Lackey List <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Braid:  PA/Kali Yuga/casting/vampires/ice-cream
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960714224842.19143A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Kory wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Braid: MistyMusic/Writing/Flaming/.sigs

>>>ObMisty: If Piers Anthony was a Bard, would he be outlawed? Think of..of 
SONGS of horribly pathetic puns<<<

OK, now I just want to say something here.  I *like* PA!  Oh, his Xanth 
stuff did get completely ludicrous and unreadable, but lets not forget 
that he has written huge volumes of stuff that had nary a pun in it.  
Macroscope is a great novel, as is Mute and the Hasan.  He also wrote 
Tatham Mound which is a fascinating novel about pre-Columbian 
civilizations in Florida and meso-America.  I don't know if anyone on 
this list knows this, but one of his charity projects is funding an 
archeological dig in Florida at Tatham Mound.  Yeah, the Xanth books have 
become extremely irritating, but at least they generate a lot of money 
and allow Piers to do some of the cool things that he does.

-----EOM

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Jake wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Piers Anthony as a Bard?!

>>>Problem: I see no talent or creativity lately coming from the prolific Mr.
Anthony. <grins> Maybe in _A Spell For Chameleon_ he had something but stuff
like _Centaur Aisle_ and _Night Mare_ were just TERRIBLE.  *sigh*<<<

Hmmmm.  I liked Centaur Aisle and Night Mare.  I didn't become 
disenchanted until Golem in the Gears.  BTW, has anyone read any of his 
virtual reality books?  Are they any good or are they just more of the 
same punnish drek that Xanth became?  

-----EOM

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Undine wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Re: Cool bookstores, karmic debts

>>>Thank you. I'd wish for the offending publishers to come back as slugs 
but I do believe that that would be a step up for them. Could you also do 
something about alleged book critics? The ones that write scathing 
reviews of genre titles because the books aren't pretent-ah-because the 
books don't show enough literary merit. Oh to be Kali...<<<

Hmmmm.  Well, I will see what I can do.  Maybe if I arranged for you to 
come back as Kali Durga, you could bring about the start of the Kali Yuga 
and then do what ever you liked with your enemies?  Hmmmm.  Of course, 
they would still have a rather large karmic burden to work off, but I 
suppose I could make sure that they came back as...oh, I don't 
know...cafeteria workers in a very rich and pretentious high-school?  
Or a decorator for a nouveau riche couple with no taste?  I'll think of 
something.  =)

-----EOM

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Summersong wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Another Casting Suggestion

>>>Vanyel: Charlie Sheen (the older -- possibly in Mprice?)<<<

Ech!  Charlie is too bulky and well-fed looking (even at his buffest!).  
Van was supposed to be whip-thin and otherworldly.  

Talia: Kirsten Dunst, Samantha Mathis, Nana Visitor (age progression)

No, NO, NOOOO!!!!!  Kirsten is going to play "The Brat"!  She has to!

-----EOM

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, Mandy wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Hello!

Welcome to the list, Mandy.  Life here may be a bit weird, but it sure is 
fun.  And really, what more can you ask for?

-----EOM

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Jake wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Vampire Novels

>>>Hmm.  Barbra Hambly's THOSE WHO HUNT THE NIGHT was uninspired...<<<

Jake, I am utterly shocked.  In fact, I am tempted to leave you in the 
hands of the MIW, just for this.  Those Who Hunt the Night was brill!  
Don Simon Ysidro is probably my fave vampire ever!  He is the standard 
against which I measure every other vampire character.  And frankly, I 
have never found even one that measures up.  

>>>And PLEASE someone tell me what the big deal is about Andre! <grin><<<

I don't know.  I mean, he certainly is no Don Simon. =)  For that matter, 
the first time I read about him, I got the impression that he might have 
been a rip-off of Henry FitzRoy in Tanya Huff's Blood series.

-----EOM

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Kimberly wrote:

BOM>>>Subject: Mark Shepard, Welcome Mandy, ice cream

>>>ObMisty: I was jsut out eating sorbet and despeartely trying not to 
have it drip all over me... so, is there any ice cream in Velgarth?<<<

I am sure there is.  After all, the annual Herald Jamboree and Picnic at 
the Lake Evendim resort just would not be the same without the ice-cream 
eating contest. =)  You really do need to read Storm Signals!  The scene 
where Selenay is showing Daren her patented hot-dog eating technique and 
gets catsup on her whites is great!

Seriously, I can't see any reason they wouldn't have icecream in 
Velgarth.  It isn't like ice cream is a product of high techno 
societies.  There has been ice cream around for ages.  And certainly 
sherbets and the like have a long and illustrious history in the cuisines 
of the near-East.



May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me


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