MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 708 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: My Very First Braid (yeah! So I'm a slow starter. So what?) by aw2-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Kimburger) 2) begging Thess/sorry to Cennydd +Robbie/personality types by aw2-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Kimburger) 3) Re: Windrider Fettered.... by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com 4) ADMIN: birthdays and other surveys by Melanie Dymond Harper 5) Bippy / Poll / Bippy / Shadow-Lover / Bippy! by Jake 6) Re: Braide: Bippy the Mime / Larry Dixon / Life bonds /etc by Kintara-+AT+-aol.com 7) Introduction/Vanyel/Elvenbane/Bardic Voices by Lynne Markova 8) Introduction / Van's Parents / Good News! by Jake 9) Re: Windrider Fettered.... by Jake 10) Re: Windrider Fettered.... - Reply by Barbara Slater 11) Meet/lifebond/Mage Wars/names by Glithoniel-+AT+-aol.com 12) Tiger Burning Bright, etc. by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 13) My First Braid Attempt by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 14) Bride of Braid by Korendil 15) Re: Wccnut-l by David Snyder 16) Re: shaych, personality types, birthing days, next Di Tregard by David Snyder 17) Re: Elvenbane by anderson family 18) Re: Windrider Fettered.... by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:59:58 -0400 (EDT) From: aw2-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Kimburger) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: My Very First Braid (yeah! So I'm a slow starter. So what?) Message-ID: >On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Kimberly wrote: > >> You horrible son of an outcast! That's >> *hardly* fair!! Just because I don't want the gory details of someone's sex >> life when they're talking about f***ing someone else does *not* mean that I >> don't want to know what's going on around me. > >Kimi-chan, chill. =) Ooops. >I am sure that it wasn't meant as an attack. I know. I'm really sorry, Robbie. >And I think it was almost valid. Not the part about the "adult" vs. "child" >thing, but I did wonder myself if you were asking (rather elliptically) >for details about what I meant by trip him. I wasn't. I don't think... I must just have a filthy mind. I was reading this script called _Niagara, Niagara_ (a creenplay by Matthew Weiss) and the lead protagonist is has Tourette syndrome, which is a physical condition where the body undergoes involuntary tics, either physical or vocal or both. This character had both, and the script was *very* explicit. She curses nonstop during one of those fits, and she ummm, gets really very, umm, angry at the people who try to stop her and yells about her against her parents and te world, neither of which understand her. Anyway, she has this habit of attacking umm, err, the balls of the people who get in her way, or in the way of her makeshift friend. It's going to be worth a lot of money, though, even if it is a bit of a shcoker... >If you had asked, I would >have told you that it didn't have anything to do with what you seem to >think it did. I meant that he kept standing off from me and I basically >had to almost trip him and sit on him to get him to listen to me long >enough to realize that he wasn't going to hurt me or destroy my spirit or >something. He really was very worried that he might not be up to being >my first boyfriend. > >> If Cennydd had said that he had had to drag >> his partner into a more involved relationship, I would have said "cool" and >> gone onto the next subject, because I would have assumed emotionally and >> not physically. > >You should have assumed that anyway. I am not in the habit of discussing >the details of my sex life in a public forum. My apologies extended, m'dear I really am sorry, I must have been really tired. >At least, not one that isn't about sexuality issues At least I think that was what I was aksing about. A person that I know who *is* gay talks about his sex life explicitly and has a lot of problems, since his parents won't accept it, or even acknowledge it. *cringe* >(I have been known to answer questions about it, if asked, when I am doing >>Lesbian/Gay Awareness Programs at my university). I am not ashamed of >it, but >I also am a great believer in the old adage of "there is a time >and a place for >everything." And this list, at this moment, is neither >the time nor place for >discussing sex lives. No, it isn't. Lemme just apologize one more time... I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry and feeling mostly guilty now. Lady of Forgiveness-- and obviously Ken, too-- wilt thou choose this once to withold thy bounteous gift, that needle that doth ravel up the human's friendship, or willst light a blessed touch on my blue-white repentant tears; willst accept my sorrow for another day? keep it by tha side, milady? <_Nirvana_ running through her mind, Kim signs off> All apologies... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:00:14 -0400 (EDT) From: aw2-+AT+-mail.idt.net (Kimburger) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: begging Thess/sorry to Cennydd +Robbie/personality types Message-ID: To Cennydd and Robbie both, I'm so sorry; let me apologize publicly, and well, I guess I can do this, even though it's not a precise substitute for the real thing: *hug* *hug* hug* *hug* &___________________________________________________________________________& Since everyone was doing personality stuff, I looked up the URL on Navigator, but-- and get this-- I am an official INXJ. The thingy told me to take the test after the first time turned up an INXJ result, so I obediently took the test and it came out INFJ. But just to make sure, when I took it yet again... and I got an INTJ result... and then, wondering if I were some kind of schizophrenic, I got an INXJ result... and again. Oh well. &___________________________________________________________________________& To Lady Thessala: This sorry supplicant shall dare to place a rose plucked by bush's consent, in front of milady Goddess Thess' left foot, and quietly begs her to accept a petition for Kimberly to be Goddess of Chocolate, oh pretty please? unless someone else has the title, of course. abjectedness flaoting from a Kimburger to you all, love, the hopefully soon-to-be-lady-of-chocolate, and don't get too many cavities... *laugh* P.S. Oh, BTW for Barbara, you're welcome with the name ref... though I have no idea what you're talking about... *gryn* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:14:10 -0400 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Windrider Fettered.... Message-ID: <960718121409_436919325-+AT+-emout09.mail.aol.com> >"Bippy?" > >Jake still raising from a dream of the Last Herald-Mime, is a bit confused >at this point. He sees the vague form of a woman fighting someone off in >white. MIME White. Bippy! > >"BIPPY!" Jake screams as he tackles the still-wavering female shape. "I >won't let you hurt Bippy!" > >The female form grabs Jake's head and shakes it side to side. > >"No!!!! I won't let you hurt me! See--Bippy's friends are coming!" > >Jake points to the doorway and the approaching Men In White. Jake is >currently holding Silvermoon down, deluded, still in his Mime dream.... > > Before Silvermoon could do anything, Jake had her pinned down. Muttering an oath, she opened jer sheilds a crack to use her Empathy to find out what was going on. The pain and anger of the fight around her she blocked, and focused on Jake. He was terrified for Bippy, thinking she was going to hurt the mime. Silvermoon hastily sheilded again, before she too became lost in the confusion that was Jake's mind. Then she felt the presence of a MIW. "Jake!! Let go of me!! You're going to get us both killed!" As the dagger plunged toward her, Silvermoon rolled to shield Jake with herself. Maybe they wouldn't both be killed... >As the MIW he was facing rush off encounter the LIG, Korendil, looks around the room >for Jake...and see's him holding Lady SIlvermoon down, while A MIW attacks her....the >Elf knows he has no chance of reaching the two of them in time,not can he get through >the melee... at leastnot in *this* shape...he quickly shifts into his feline form, a >sivler-grey cat with the same haunting emerald eyes. (OOC, This is NOT A: Showing >I'm a Cat Person, or B: Cheating. It is an ability Kor, at least, has. See KoGaS, after >Perenor attacks). > The Cat/Elf bounds under the feat of the LIG , and rushes up to the MIW attacking >SIlvermoon. He unsheaths his claws and lunges for the MIW, only to find himself >propelling off the white-coated thug. *Damnit! My anti-pun shields won't allow physical >contact!* The dagger hit her in her right arm, just as a leaping Korendil distracted the foe enough for her to use her other arm and kill the foe with a dagger. >He lurches over to Jake's side, who is oblivious in his madness. "No, no! You won't >hurt Bippy! Bippy is my friend!" > :Jake! JAKE! Damnit, JAKE ADAMO! PAY ATTENTION!: He mind-yelled at the >madman. SUddenly he got an idea....as nothing else would, a bad filk of Magic's Price >would... > :Every year the Bureau picks new as they have done before: >:The recruits come with shining hopes to learn Ol' Hoover's lore: > :And every year the agents sigh and give the same advice:: > :All those who would hold U.S. power must first pay our tithes: >"Bippy is my friend! I love Bip--Bi-B...No!!! That's wrong!!!! You aren't SCANNING >RIGHT!!!!" >"No! You have to do it differently! Stop it!!" >"Damnit!! SING THE RIGHT LYRICS!!!" ."GIVE ME HEATHER!!!!!!" The Bard now reached for his equipment...He hoped this >would work...he was running out of lyrics! >:STOP IT KORENDIL STOP IT STOP IT STOP it.....Oh, gods! What did I do?!: >"Silvermoon! Are you all right?! I'm so sorry! I..I don't know what I was doing! I thought >you were Bi--the Bard decided to not say what he had thought she was, seeing how >absolutely strange it sounded--I--" The MIW had found them. "No, Jake, a dagger in the arm is not all right," she said with a wry smile. "Hang on." With that she wrenched it out with her good arm, wincing and clenching her teeth. Then she used it to tear off enough of her skirt to form a bandage and bound it quickly. "I know who you thought I was, it's not your fault. Forget that. We have worse problems to deal with." With that she jumped to her feet and backflipped to position herself in front of a MIW, somehow getting her twin swords out in the process. She quickly finished him, and glanced around. No one in too much danger, and no one nearby. She strode back to Jake. "Are you back to normal now? I'm not going to have to mind blast you again, am I?" Lady Silvermoon LIG, Leader of the DDMF, Goddess of Sensitivity "May the moon light your path and guide you to your destiny." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:28:39 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Dymond Harper To: mercedes-lackey Subject: ADMIN: birthdays and other surveys Message-ID: <199607181628.RAA04438-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk> Please, guys, I said this yesterday: anyone collecting information about people on the list, be it birthdays or anything else, send it in _private_ mail. Don't send it to the list. That means, when you hit that 'reply' button, _check where it's going_. Mel PS: Gay male fantasy writers? Try Samuel Delany. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:31:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jake To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Bippy / Poll / Bippy / Shadow-Lover / Bippy! Message-ID: <199607181631.MAA27060-+AT+-orion.webspan.net> Dave Tiff wrote: >On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, miyako hirao wrote: >> Who started the whole Bippy the Mime business? Mimes are cool, but aren't >> you over-doing it? > >Jake started it. It's all his fault! Well I may have had a bit to do with >keeping it going-buts it's still Jakes fault, he made me do it! I started it, yes, but you folks got a little carried away with it. It's yet another way to confuse and pester the newbies so they can insult listmembers, Summersong. :) $#$%^&*())(*&^%$#-+AT+--+AT+-%%))(&^&^#-+AT+-#%^&*(())_)(*&^%$#-+AT+-#!~!#$()__+)_(*&%$#-+AT+- Summersong wrote: >> Here's a poll: If you had a choice, in which time period of Velgarth would >> you like to live? What region? And DT responded: >Valdemar in some nice, boring era! Which one is that? WAS there one? I'm an Iftel man, just because I want to see what Misty's hiding! The next trilogy has GOT to GOT to be about Iftel. *()*(*&*&^&^%^$#$%#$-+AT+-#$%-+AT+-$#%$^%^^*&*(&*(&^&*^&^%$%#$%##%$%$^&%&%^&*^*)) >2) I'd care and remember, A Mime is a Terrible Thing to Waste! ARGH! **&*^^&%^&%$%^$%$#%$##$%^&%&^*(&(&*(&*(&*^&%^&$%$%^$%#^&&******)))))^^%&^%% > >Shadow Lover don't go please. Your presence adds so much to the list, it >would not be the same without you! Since I see more recent posts, did you >decide not to lurk? I hope so! SL! No! If SL lurks, will it be like Death's vacation in Pterry's REAPER MAN? Are listmember personae fated not to die until he comes back? #$%^&*()(*&^%$#-+AT+-!!!!!!!##$^^%#$#$#$#$#$#$-+AT+-##!#!#!%$#%&$&^%*^&*^(&*)*()*(%*% Jerry C. wrote: >Probably because your mailer is broken, and is doing partial MIME encoding >on some characters - AHA! BIPPY INVADES EMAIL!!! HHahhaha... *pant pant* Excuse me. Solace and equilibrium, - Jake -- O--------------------------------O O-----------------------------------O | Jake Adamo / Rynath in Green | | Misty Information FAQ Admin. | | rynath-+AT+-webspan.net | | God of Parody and Top Ten Lists | | http://www.webspan.net/~rynath | | Avatar of Humor / Ladies in Green | O--------------------------------O O-----------------------------------O "...." -- Bippy, the Last Herald-Mime ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:14:39 -0400 From: Kintara-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braide: Bippy the Mime / Larry Dixon / Life bonds /etc Message-ID: <960718131437_363845121-+AT+-emout17.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 96-07-17 23:56:06 EDT, Shadow-lover wrote: << and a case of Jolt Cola >> Totally off anything anybody talks about but... You've heard of Jolt Cola? That stuff is ancient and not at all popular anymore but I drink it because it has the most caffiene and sugar in any Soda around. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:46:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynne Markova To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Introduction/Vanyel/Elvenbane/Bardic Voices Message-ID: Greetings to the list: I have been lurking for several months and have emerged (finally). This list is great! I first discovered Mercedes Lackey several years ago (1988?) while I was still in college, and found a copy of Arrows of the Queen at the Cleveland Airport Bookstore, and bought it, to have something to read on the plane. Needless to say, I became completely hooked! I have very much enjoyed watching her writing style evolve over the years - about the only works of hers I have not enjoyed are some of the Serrated Edge books, and the Silver Gryphon. (White Gryphon did not do much for me either). On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Lady Wintersong wrote: > In M'sPromise, Lord Withern is portrayed as an > overbearing _idiot_ that wouldn't see anything if you hit him on the face > with it (a change from Misty's favourite line) and Lady Treesa was this > empty-headed fluff-head with nary a thought in her brain. (I mean, what > brain?) And Vanyel definitely does _not_ love either. However, as the > series progresses, all their attitudes seem to change. In M'sPrice, Vanyel > admits that he has always loved them and thinks they are quite good after > all. Lord Withen is now nothing but a little hidebound and Lady Treesa just > a tweeny bit selfish. I mean, such a drastic change? Did Misty sudden;y get > sentimental and try for one of those happy family endings? I think everyone mellowed. It was really hard for Vanyel to love his parents in Magic's Promise - neither one of them were particularly respectful of him or his needs and wants. It was only after he got out of their clutches (so to speak) that he was able to admit how much he loved them and needed their approval. They also met him halfway - took him seriously, accepted his lifestyle choices, etc. - and his father, anyway, admitted his mistakes. I don't know - maybe it was a cop-out, but it worked for me. I really enjoyed Elvenbane and Elvenblood - I think I enjoyed Elvenblood more, because it seemed to show more individuality within the elven (elfin?) society. Another question for the list: I was very much interested in the Bardic Voices series, especially the Lark and the Wren. Was anyone else disappointed in the other two books? They really seemed to turn into more of a "murder-mystery" format. I know in the first book, there was some of that in the last section of the book - but there was also a lot of... well, more social commentary, i.e. the roles of bards in society, the role of religion, the role of women... and has anyone every come up with a reason that women weren't allowed in the Bardic Guild, when they seemed to be allowed in many or most of the others? Anyway. I must beg the list's indulgence for such a long first post! Oh - and I'm an INFJ, an aspiring opera singer, and my birthday is 20 July 1967. If no one has taken it, could I be Goddess of Music and/or Song? (Hmm... Lady Sophia, Goddess of Song (Sophia is my middle name)... has a nice ring to it). Thanks! Lynne Sophia Markova lynne-+AT+-seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:14:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jake To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Introduction / Van's Parents / Good News! Message-ID: <199607181914.PAA06382-+AT+-orion.webspan.net> Milady Markova wrote: >I have been lurking for several months and have emerged (finally). This >list is great! Welcome Welcome Welcome Welcome!!! Since you've been lurking, I don't have to give you the standard we're-all-nuts-but-still-harmless-love-us thing. Welcome to the mayhem in full! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She also wrote, about Van's mellowing to his parents: >I think everyone mellowed. It was really hard for Vanyel to love his >parents in Magic's Promise - neither one of them were particularly >respectful of him or his needs and wants. It was only after he got out of >their clutches (so to speak) that he was able to admit how much he loved >them and needed their approval. They also met him halfway - took him >seriously, accepted his lifestyle choices, etc. - and his father, anyway, >admitted his mistakes. I don't know - maybe it was a cop-out, but it >worked for me. The LHM books span a vast amount of time. When I was in my teens, I hated my father. Now I love him very much (and will even when he finds out I'm a witch and kicks me out). And I used to argue with my mom all the time, and now we're fine. Isn't there a kind of metamorphosis with children's feeling towards their parents? As people mature their attitudes about their family change. You know, the "he's going through his rebellious phase" kind of feelings. I know it's happening with my brother now--he's gone completely rebel, but I know he's going to be fine when he reaches my age (22). This didn't happen overnight with Van; it happened over the course of several years. His parents didn't wake up one day and immediately accept and love Van 100% (THAT would be a copout) --- it took them time. I think that Van's parents really did love him very much and because of that they finally accepted him. -+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+--+AT+- Good News! Good News!!! Good News!!!!! Guess what? I got a manuscript accepted for review!! A publishing company I sent my query to for my *book* wants to see the whole thing--perhaps I will be on the science fiction/fantasy shelf along with Misty! I just need a cool pen name. No, David, Korendil--I'm not taking Bippy! My story about Rynath is going to print (most hopefully); only catch is I've gotta finish the whole thing by August to send to them, but that's a piece of cake. Yes! Yes! *runs up and grabs each individual listmember and gives them a hug--well, all the ones that don't give me strange looks* (Sorry for the nonrelevance but I wanted to share this with all of my friends here on the list). -- O--------------------------------O O-----------------------------------O | Jake Adamo / Rynath in Green | | Misty Information FAQ Admin. | | rynath-+AT+-webspan.net | | God of Parody and Top Ten Lists | | http://www.webspan.net/~rynath | | Avatar of Humor / Ladies in Green | O--------------------------------O O-----------------------------------O "...." -- Bippy, the Last Herald-Mime ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jake To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Windrider Fettered.... Message-ID: <199607181927.PAA06970-+AT+-orion.webspan.net> Silvermoon she wrote: > "No, Jake, a dagger in the arm is not all right," she said with a wry >smile. "Hang on." With that she wrenched it out with her good arm, wincing >and clenching her teeth. Then she used it to tear off enough of her skirt to >form a bandage and bound it quickly. Jake slowly came out of his haze, looking and realizing he was holding down his fellow Green person Silvermoon! Still dazed, Jake shook his head back and forth, trying to clear the cobwebs from his head. "Silvermoon.. I.. I--" >"I know who you thought I was, it's not your fault. Forget that. We have >worse problems to deal with." With that she jumped to her feet and >backflipped to position herself in front of a MIW, somehow getting her twin >swords out in the process. She quickly finished him, and glanced around. > No one in too much danger, and no one nearby. She strode back to Jake. > "Are you back to normal now? I'm not going to have to mind blast you >again, am I?" "Don't worry," Jake said. "I'm back. Those goddess-damned Men In White are going to get it this time!" He reached down, picked up the cassette recorder, and threw it violently against the wall. The player smashed into several pieces, sending a glittering shower of plastic down onto the floor and the bodies of the Men In White laying under it. He slowly smiled, and looked over at Silvermoon and Korendil. "Let's get them." ======================================= Not part of the story: All right. I'm taking Bippy as the name of my avatar of humor, and he may come into play later. Thess was very nice in giving me an aspect that I can manifest on the physical plane (avatar) and I intend to use it. He's going to be a mime, yes, but a God mime. I figured the God and Goddess and Avatar thingy Thessa uses for the list is valid RP material here. Any objections please email me. (not about using the name Bippy, since it is my creation but to the use of the Gods and Goddesses in here). Grow in Wisdom, Jake. -- O--------------------------------O O-----------------------------------O | Jake Adamo / Rynath in Green | | Misty Information FAQ Admin. | | rynath-+AT+-webspan.net | | God of Parody and Top Ten Lists | | http://www.webspan.net/~rynath | | Avatar of Humor / Ladies in Green | O--------------------------------O O-----------------------------------O "...." -- Bippy, the Last Herald-Mime ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:49:23 -0400 From: Barbara Slater To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Windrider Fettered.... - Reply Message-ID: Jake, I sent this earlier (sorry, didn't know I needed to send it to the list as well =) I figured that Lani (my character's name, not that anyone knows that yet) was about to slide into you and Lady Silvermoon and Korendil (he's in his cat-form, right?)! (this is my first post to the magewar, so pardon any 'quette goofs, okay, and tell me how to do it right!) Close by the ruins of the tape recorder, with a crash of thunder, a figure appeared, surrounded by a net of blue lightning that swiftly dissipated. What looked like a huge black leopard, as large as a kyree, squalled, and crouched in a defensive posture for a moment as the blue-eyed beast 'looked' around the battle-filled room. One of the MIW charged at her, and she thwapped his head with a light-edged paw as she dodged to one side. His face, briefly, wore a surprised expression as his head swiveled, too swiftly, to the right, with a snap barely-heard over the chaos in the room. Energy bolts shot back and forth across the room, and those that came too near, she stripped and absorbed into her shields. As she leapt and spun from conflict to conflict, battling foes, fangs, and fear, her attention was caught by a group of patterns close by her, over by the place where she was originally dumped into the area. One desparate jump sent her over the body of one of the white-clad fighters, but she landed badly, skidding on the blood-slicked floor toward a woman who had a pair of bloody swords and a bandaged arm. On the edge of her perception-field, she Saw a pattern that glowed silver and green... Barbara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:33:05 -0400 From: Glithoniel-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Meet/lifebond/Mage Wars/names Message-ID: <960718163304_159117969-+AT+-emout07.mail.aol.com> Greetings & Felicitations!! Sal: >>Now for Part Two: What fictional character would you most like to meet?<< Hmmm, that's a good question. I don't know if I'd really want to meet any of them. I almost prefer being the fly on the wall. I guess if I had to choose a character to meet out of all the books I had read, it wouldn't be all fantasy characters. Elizabeth Peters three main heroines: Amelia Peabody, Jaqueline Kirby, or Vicky Bliss. Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, and The Librarian(OOOK!) from the DiscWorld. Hmm, from Misty's worlds: Diana Tregarde, Tarma, Kethry, Savil, Talia, Firesong, Karal, Skan, and Trev. Others: Brother Cadfael (Ellis Peters), Miss Marple (Agatha Christie), Gideon Oliver(Aaron Elkins) and Stephanie Plum(Janet Evanovich) Kory: >>Comparitively, the S/K/Y Lifebond was next to pointless: NOne of the characters were truly vital to the story; none of them have done anything important; in fact, they could all have died in infancy, and Talia would--ok, I found only one place they were needed, to save Talia...but a lifebond? You'd think the Gods would be more effiecient...<< Sorry, I have to disagree. Not only did the S/K/Y lifebond save Talia's life, it also help her to feel she fit into life at the Collegium. Remember when Ylsa is killed only Talia can save Keren and help retrieve the information from Ylsa. It also served as an example of what would be happening to Talia latter on. Admittedly it was merely a plot device but it is the first experience the chronilogical(by publishing date) reader has with lifebonds. Jake: >>The MAGE WARS series just seems like vague sketchy material for background of the MAGE STORMS series, and they wanted to tie two trilogies together<< That would make sense if they did a series with BG as the middle book, WG about the problems that happened after the double strike that ended BG, and a book before BG that gives a little more info on the wars--maybe one about Amberdrake finding his way to Urtho. The other way has little bearing on Mage Storms except for BG. It just don't add up!! Kerry: >>Glithoniel wrote: (I keep reading that as Gilthoniel.. too much J.R.R)<< Well, rats! I meant for it to be the same as Gilthoniel(always loved that song the elves are singing when Frodo meets them in _Fellowship of the Ring_) I just never realized I'd reversed the "i" and the "l" until you mentioned it! Well, I'm not about to change it now. I really like the name Glithoniel much better than Tolkien's original version. (Actually I wanted Galadriel but AOL wouldn't let me have that one. If I ever get rich enough to spend all my money on opening a bookstore, I want to call it Galadriel's Mirror after that scene in Lothlorien.) BTW is this format more readable? Well, that's Tuesday's mail. Now I just have to do Wed, Thurs, and Friday(when it gets here). Wearily, Glith "Gaily bedight,/ A gallant knight,/ In sunshine and in shadow,/ Had journeyed long,/ Singing a song,/ In search of Eldorado." --Edgar Allan Poe from "Eldorado" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:39:49 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Tiger Burning Bright, etc. Message-ID: <199607182035.PAA15567-+AT+-cdale1.midwest.net> I got a message saying that my thing didn't get posted, so in case someone missed it, here it is again: Have any of you read "Tiger Burning Bright" by Misty,MZB,and Andre Norton? I thought it was a great book, especially the characters. My favorite was Shelyra. She was basically a tomboy, clan-sister to the gypsies, and rescues the prince. I won't spoil it further for those of you who haven't read it. Anywho(not a typo;this is deliberate), it's a GREAT book. Highly recommended by moi. Who started the whole Bippy the Mime business? Mimes are cool, but aren't you over-doing it? Here's a poll: If you had a choice, in which time period of Velgarth would you like to live? What region? Feedback, please... Love and chocolate chip cookies to all the chocoholics out there, Summersong Thoughts for today: Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii? If you throw a plugged-in toaster into the ocean, what would happen? The building burned down because it caught on fire. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:10:17 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: My First Braid Attempt Message-ID: <199607182106.QAA19340-+AT+-cdale1.midwest.net> This is my first Braid attempt, so bear with me here... Jake wrote: I'm an Iftel man, just because I want to see what Misty's hiding! The next trilogy has GOT to GOT to be about Iftel. Yup. I'd like to see what the deal is. Isn't there some kind of god protecting the place? ^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^&^& Kintara-+AT+-aol.com wrote: Totally off anything anybody talks about but... You've heard of Jolt Cola? That stuff is ancient and not at all popular anymore but I drink it because it has the most caffiene and sugar in any Soda around. Jolt is NASTY stuff. If you drink too much, you pass out. Stick to Pepsi - much,much safer. Apologies to Auntie Mel for this. &*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& Lynne Markova wrote: Another question for the list: I was very much interested in the Bardic Voices series, especially the Lark and the Wren. Was anyone else disappointed in the other two books? They really seemed to turn into more of a "murder-mystery" format. I know in the first book, there was some of that in the last section of the book - but there was also a lot of... well, more social commentary, i.e. the roles of bards in society, the role of religion, the role of women... and has anyone every come up with a reason that women weren't allowed in the Bardic Guild, when they seemed to be allowed in many or most of the others? I really liked The Lark and the Wren, too, but after that, it all went downhill. I did not enjoy The Robin and the Kestrel. It was disappointing. I read The Eagle and the Nightingales, too. The ending was VERY ineffective, and inefficient. I wish it would have concentrated more on Nightingale and T'fyrr's romance, with all the Free Bard action in it. Anyway. I must beg the list's indulgence for such a long first post! Oh - and I'm an INFJ, an aspiring opera singer, and my birthday is 20 July 1967. OPERA SINGER? Cool! I play the piano and take classical voice lessons. I hope I can be some kind of a singer. Anyone else out there who is a musician? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jake wrote: A publishing company I sent my query to for my *book* wants to see the whole thing--perhaps I will be on the science fiction/fantasy shelf along with Misty! I just need a cool pen name. No, David, Korendil--I'm not taking Bippy! My story about Rynath is going to print (most hopefully); only catch is I've gotta finish the whole thing by August to send to them, but that's a piece of cake. Yes! Yes! *runs up and grabs each individual listmember and gives them a hug--well, all the ones that don't give me strange looks* (Sorry for the nonrelevance but I wanted to share this with all of my friends here on the list). Congratulations! Again, apologies to Aunt Mel. I'm really glad for you! I wish my stuff would get published, but I'll have to send them to publishing companies. Where did you send yours? Anyone else with that info? I like writing poetry most of the time, some prose, and some SF/F. ******************************************************************** Well, folks. That's it. I don't think it's perfect, and I know that most of you don't either. If you can, please e-mail me privately on how to make the perfect braid, at myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net Love, Summersong, the almost-Criminally Insane Chocoholic Thoughts for today: If nothing sticks to TEFLON, how do they make TEFLON stick to things? Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 17:38:00 -0400 From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Bride of Braid Message-ID: <9607182141.AA00324-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> >In M'sPromise, Lord Withern is portrayed as an >overbearing _idiot_ that wouldn't see anything if you hit him on the face >with it (a change from Misty's favourite line) and Lady Treesa was this >empty-headed fluff-head with nary a thought in her brain. (I mean, what >brain?) And Vanyel definitely does _not_ love either. However, as the >series progresses, all their attitudes seem to change. In M'sPrice, Vanyel >admits that he has always loved them and thinks they are quite good after >all. Lord Withen is now nothing but a little hidebound and Lady Treesa just >a tweeny bit selfish. I mean, such a drastic change? Did Misty sudden;y get >sentimental and try for one of those happy family endings? Well, we don't really get *too* much detail on his deep-down thought of his parents, in Mpawn. Not to mention he's (..oh gods..I'm not going to say this...) in a phase (....aaaah!!!....) where he's *going* to hate his parents. I just reread Pawn *this* week for the 5-millionth time, and I thought Withen really *did* care for Van...remember, he rode all the way from Forst Reach, and then the shock on his face when he saw Van..not to mention after Van was done with him...and Treesa, imsho, wasn't exactly an airhead, but pretended to be one. When she wanted to, she could care. Withen, I'd bet, isn't much of a husband, and she might have to fight for things..like she fought for Van to stay home. We know that she didn't do that out of the kindess of her heart, but she still *did* it. In Mpromise, Van's a lot older, a lot more mature. He can begin to see his parents as they really are...and by Mprice, they respect him. >>Valdemar in some nice, boring era! > >Which one is that? WAS there one? Yes there was. Pre-Hardornen War/ Post-Karsite War Valdemar during Selenay's reign...I have the feeling Arden and Lissa's reign was rather peaceful....Elspeth The *Peace-Maker*'s reign most likely was.... >If SL lurks, will it be like Death's vacation in Pterry's REAPER MAN? Are >listmember personae fated not to die until he comes back? Hey! Jake, that *better* not be referring to my upcoming Duel with SL....and.. SHADOW-LOVER!!! DON'T LEAVE!!!!! >Guess what? I got a manuscript accepted for review!! > Congratulations!!!!! Think..one day, we'll have a section of the FAQ with the Q: "Are there any celebrity authors on the 'list?", and the A: "Yes. We have the best-selling fantasy author Jake Adamo as a long-time member. In fact, we had 'im 'fore he *became* a published author!" >A publishing company I sent my query to for my *book* wants to see the whole >thing--perhaps I will be on the science fiction/fantasy shelf along with >Misty! I just need a cool pen name. No, David, Korendil--I'm not taking >Bippy! How about Bi'pp'y? Yes..he's a nice Shin'a'in MIme, pefect name for a fledgling author! I think you should at least make it 'B. Jake Adamo';> But seriously, why do you need a pen name? Misty didn't!;P >Korendil (he's in his cat-form, right?)! No, actually. (Sacrifices a few tpyos to the Git o' em, in exchange get's some nice sacrfiice for the Goddess of Forgiveness, and sacrifices it to her, to be forgiven for the wccnut post on the list;>) Also, Wccnut-list wise: There is something *weird* going on there. Today I've received posts I already HAVE gotten..and they're appearing again in reverse chronological order! Where's that white dragon when ye' need him?! SO just in case someone get's confuzzled: I just helped sanitize Jake, and am now holding off the MIW with Silvermoon (who got him where I COULD try and sanitize him). And, oh yes...using Jake as a living shiel--erm, making sure I treat my control over Jake in a mature fashion;P ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:01:10 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Wccnut-l Message-ID: <199607182201.SAA16028-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 06:14 AM 7/18/96 +0100, you wrote: > I sent a message to the wcnut-l list a couple of days ago, and I >never got anything back from it. No "this list is locked, you cant send >mail to it" or any evidence that I was on the list. Did the message in >fact make it to the list? Or did it get lost somewhere? > Also- Who runs/maintains the wccnut-l list? > Dass ********** I'm now on the list, but what I did was this: I got the Majordomo results, saw who to report problems to, and sent them an email saying 'this is my problem, I want to be on this list, help me please', and they put me on it. so to those with problems, write to Majordomo-Owner-+AT+-lists.teleport.com and whine at them. Like me. heh heh heh-- Lady Thessaly "My dad says I gotta live amongst soft, weak civilized Goddess of Nomenclature men, so's I can be a kind and just ruler...and learn how MKGC torture without leaving marks!" young Alex-to-be-the-Great Lady in Green in Epicurus the Sage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:01:20 -0400 From: David Snyder To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: shaych, personality types, birthing days, next Di Tregard Message-ID: <199607182201.SAA16038-+AT+-brickell.bridge.net> At 07:47 AM 7/18/96 +0100, you wrote: >Jake was writing on personality types: >>What do you want? I'm a (get this) XNFP (X as in both Introverted and >Hey! Sylver Dove is an XNFP; wonder how common they are? Am I the ENFP out >there? BTW, I am a blazing ENFP: E-80%, N-95%, F-90%, P-75%. She's more like me >than anyone else I've ever meet in my entir life and the oldest friend I have. >I sometimes wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that we are both >Gemimi's born 24 hours apart. (Sylver-June 17, Arielle-June 19.) For the >bithday list, Spiritblade is July 13. (Sorry Mel; can't seem to find Seranna's >address to mail her personally.) >Arielle ********************** Can't be, Arielle, I'm also XNFP, and I never would have guessed me for it--Leo, Aug 17, Sagittarius Moon, and Rising, which means I say everything that's on my mind when it's on my mind. *************** Mishi, I haven't Named you yet, my Godhead will be back on Monday. I don't remember who asked for Goddess of Chocolate, but that's my mom's title, and I'm her Avatar. Try again. But people, really HOLD THE REQUESTS TILL MONDAY!!! My godhead will be happy to do it then. **************** Mazel tov, Jake, sweetie, if you need a proofreader, I'm pretty good!!!!!! (does happy hamster hop of joy) I declare ***H*E*D*G*E*H*U*G**** Oh, and BTW, I like the idea of avatars on the wccnut list. (I'm still Avatar of Chocolate, you know.) **************** Welcome, Sophia Markova, (that really is a great sounding name.) and apply to Lady Tammy to become a Lady in Green. Apply to me for Naming of Goddesshood. hugs all around. Lady Thessaly "My dad says I gotta live amongst soft, weak civilized Goddess of Nomenclature men, so's I can be a kind and just ruler...and learn how MKGC torture without leaving marks!" young Alex-to-be-the-Great Lady in Green in Epicurus the Sage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 17:42:26 -0500 From: anderson family To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Elvenbane Message-ID: <31EEBDD2.348D-+AT+-win.bright.net> philip dancause wrote: > > Hi everyone > > I've heard a lot of talk about various Misty collaborations, but noone's > mentioned the _Elvenbane books she did with Andre Norton. Am I missing > something here? > :) > AmiI haven't forgot them they were great! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 18:51:27 -0400 From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Windrider Fettered.... Message-ID: <960718185125_579833234-+AT+-emout14.mail.aol.com> >Jake slowly came out of his haze, looking and realizing he was holding down >his fellow Green person Silvermoon! Still dazed, Jake shook his head back >and forth, trying to clear the cobwebs from his head. > >"Silvermoon.. I.. I--" "I'll be fine Jake, I can deal with it until I can find a Healer who isn't busy. There are certainly those worse off. It's only a flesh wound." >>"I know who you thought I was, it's not your fault. Forget that. We have >>worse problems to deal with." With that she jumped to her feet and >>backflipped to position herself in front of a MIW, somehow getting her twin >>swords out in the process. She quickly finished him, and glanced around. > >No one in too much danger, and no one nearby. She strode back to Jake. > > "Are you back to normal now? I'm not going to have to mind blast you >>again, am I?" >"Don't worry," Jake said. "I'm back. Those goddess-damned Men In White are He reached down, picked up the cassette recorder, and threw it violently >going to get it this time!" "That's just what I needed to hear. Glad to have you back," she smiled. >He slowly smiled, and looked over at Silvermoon and Korendil. >"Let's get them." Silvermoon's only reply was a wicked smile. >One desparate jump sent Barbara over the body of one of the >white-clad fighters, but she landed badly, skidding on the blood-slicked floor toward a >woman who had a pair of bloody swords and a >bandaged arm. On the edge of her perception-field, she Saw a pattern that glowed >silver and green... "And here's another one who's going to join in the fun. You three ready? I'll see if I can flag down Jagrey in the midst of this. If not, I'll be fine until the fight's over. I had worse from my sister." The four of them formed into a circle, back to back, and set out after the Men in White. Lady Silvermoon LIG, Leader of the DDMF, Goddess of Sensitivity "May the moon light your path and guide you to your destiny." ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 708 *********************************