MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 810 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Misty Educational humor by "Ramona Winkelbauer [SERA]" 2) Re: Kero by poisoniv-+AT+-sprynet.com 3) re: Oathbreakers/Misty Educational humor by Mat Timmerman 4) Merchants in Haven by Jaguar 5) Schoolhouse Rock meets Misty! by Jake 6) big BRAID- MZB Fant. Mag/ Welcomes/obMisty?/ M.Sansone/MD by hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com 7) Happy:):):) / Ed Humor / cameos by Tammy Harris 8) Re: Schoolhouse Rock meets Misty! by Mat Timmerman 9) Humor/Publishing stuff by Mat Timmerman 10) Re: Is Misty German?/movie roles/quote by "E. Angell" 11) BofMZBFM/Darkover stuff/Power of Two/Casting Kero by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 12) Owls/lesbians/short story by "Hth." 13) Braid Challenges the Dragon W/O Punctuation who Says Aargh by Korendil 14) Oooooooold broads! :) / Swordspoint by Mat Timmerman 15) Valdemar by haineca-+AT+-earlham.edu 16) Re: More casting, sorry by Claris Smith 17) Naming cars/Casting by Jaguar 18) Re: More casting, sorry by Jaguar 19) Re: BofMZBFM/Darkover stuff/Power of Two/Casting Kero by Morgana 20) Re: Braid Challenges the Dragon W/O Punctuation who Says Aargh by "Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:00:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ramona Winkelbauer [SERA]" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Misty Educational humor Message-ID: Despite 'Reesa's objections, why not "Companion::Herald what's your Errand?" ;) "Elbow Room, Elbow Room" might be too simple. :) >Jake, the humor was.....interesting. :) Which school house rock is that >based on? I can't seem to place it. What's next? "Ma-age Energy", or >"No more Emperor"? :) > >Mat >Cat Person, Adept, and |"Each man builds his own garden, by what >God of Procrastination | his heart says is true. And mine is so >mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | very special to me, but it seems I can >http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/| share it with you." - Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:00:36 -0700 From: poisoniv-+AT+-sprynet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Kero Message-ID: <199609051900.MAA06136-+AT+-m4.sprynet.com> Deborah King said: %%How about both. Remember, Kerowyn's tale began with a young, idealistic %%Lord's daughter and ended with a battle-hardened, seasoned soldier. Hannah %%would be excellent as the youngster, up through her training under Tarma; %%Stone could take over after she had seen some battles and begun to "harden." That would be kinda hard, since AFAIK, Hannah is like 5 inches taller than Stone. Unless we could say she got caught in a spell that shrunk her! :) Or better yet, Need has the side effect of shrinking all her bearers :)!!!. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Then Lady 'Reesa said: %%My secret desire is to have a Misty scene where she takes a character I like %%through a marketplace. Don't know why, but I love reading about that kind of %%stuff. Didn't that happen in WoFate? When Elspeth is bugged about Skif always following her? And I seem to remember it happening in alot of the Bardic Voices novels, BICBW. %%%Ivy%%% ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:08:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: re: Oathbreakers/Misty Educational humor Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > Just pray to whatever you want to that he doesn't do anything with > "Conjunction Junction"... (I am *never* going to be able to get that damn > song out of my head. Thank you Jake...*sigh*) Watch out folks, he's been > in the store with kiddie songs all month...he's about to explode! Next > we'll get parodies of "C is for cookie" *snicker* or "The clown song"... > Run away! Run away! What, you mean, "Conjunction Junction, what's your function?" But if we hear a parody of "Rubber Duckie", I'm out of here! ;) > ObMisty: Has anyone ever wanted to know what kind of shops Haven has? > Whenever somebody comes back to it, they seem to pass through and industrial > section, but we never get to see any of the Herald-trainees shopping, or > perusing a toystore. *grin* My secret desire is to have a Misty scene > where she takes a character I like through a marketplace. Don't know why, > but I love reading about that kind of stuff. Well, it's not Misty, but have you read Melanie Rawn's Dragon Prince stuff. I remember a few shopping scenes with Sioned (a character who, BTW, I really like). obMisty: I guess Firebird was wrong about the release date for SB. Sorry. Danya, _did_ your ARC say 9/23? If so, maybe Firebird had a typo, and meant that, not the third. Mat Cat Person, Adept, and |"Each man builds his own garden, by what God of Procrastination | his heart says is true. And mine is so mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | very special to me, but it seems I can http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/| share it with you." - Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:13:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaguar To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Merchants in Haven Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Lady 'Reesa wrote: > ObMisty: Has anyone ever wanted to know what kind of shops Haven has? > Whenever somebody comes back to it, they seem to pass through and industrial > section, but we never get to see any of the Herald-trainees shopping, or > perusing a toystore. *grin* My secret desire is to have a Misty scene > where she takes a character I like through a marketplace. Don't know why, > but I love reading about that kind of stuff. > Look! I changed the subject header! Aren't you proud of me? :) We see merchants in Haven, when Elspeth and co. go through town. We just don't see shops. There's a lot of stuff about roadside people selling toy gryphons, companions and hawks; gryphons-, companions- and hawks-on-a-stick, pastries in the shape of, and so on and so forth. Nothing else in terms of shops, though. Love, Jaguar ) _,'| _.-''``-...___..--'; /, \'. _..-' , ,--...--''' < \ .`--''' ` /| `-,;' ; ; ; __...--'' __...--_..' .;.' (,__....----''' (,..--'' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jake To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Schoolhouse Rock meets Misty! Message-ID: <199609051936.PAA14648-+AT+-orion.webspan.net> All right. The Schoolhouse Rock I based that one off of was called "The Tale of Mr. Morton." This is one of the newer ones, made in the late 80's I believe (while the other ones were made around 1973). "The Tale of Mr. Morton" is kind of fun and bouncy. It's the last song on the Grammar Rock tape, and one of the better ones I have listened to that was new (if that made any sense at all.) The other new one was "Busy P's" (about prepositions) and it really stunk. *grin* Thanks for the compliments, people (Cen, Mat, 'Reesa, and whomever else. And 'Reesa.. I am NOT singing that C is for Cookie parody HERE!), and expect more on the way! Peace and Balance Jake ~~~ Jake Adamo (rynath-+AT+-webspan.net) http://www.webspan.net/~rynath Mercedes Lackey Information FAQ Administrator Regrets he ever came up with Bippy the Mime The calendar of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:40:44 -0700 From: hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: big BRAID- MZB Fant. Mag/ Welcomes/obMisty?/ M.Sansone/MD Message-ID: <199609052040.NAA03002-+AT+-m4.sprynet.com> Hi Everybodeee! (Doing the "Wild Grover Wave;" those of you who ever watched Sesame Street should know what I mean!) Yes, I am in a weird (and chatty) mood today. Undine Wrote: >Speaking of Misty short stories: Each volume of _The Best of Marion >Zimmer Bradley's Fantasy Magazine_ contains a Diana Tregarde story. I have 2 different copies of The Best Of Marion Zimmer Bradley's Fantasy Magazine. Are there any more out there, and if so could you tell me how many? Also, Welcome Lady Wildcat, E. Angell, Darktears and any other newbies I may be forgetting! Hope your enjoy yourselves here! {{{{Hugs}}}} Lady Wildcat asked:*I actually heard Sheebeg Sheemore at a RenFest in Maryland the other >day. I requested it from a hammer-dulcimer player (Maggie Sansone, if >anyone's heard her tapes -- they're *good* :), a piper (not bagpipes, a >little recorder-type thing) and a bodhran player. I think they were >surprised that I knew a title (I wasn't dressed in my RenGarb, it was too >hot) but they played it for me. It was lovely, soft and sweet and sad. I >was trying to imagine the lyrics, with notable lack of sucess :) Anyone >have a copy/know where to get one? I have a good friend who pops in on the list now and then named Sylver Dove who is a fan of Maggie Sansone's and has a few of her tapes. (I don't know if that particular song is on any of the tapes she has, but the next time I speak to her I'll ask and if it is I'll let you know.) I got to know Maggie one day when I was a young child. She sat up her hammer-dulcimer next to my mothers table at a craft fair and we talked to her and listened to her play that weekend. Very nice Lady. Speaking of the Maryland Fest, it's something Sylver, SpiritBlade and I do each year. Are there any locals on list that might be interested in trying to arrange a meeting there? If so, please e-mail me privately. (Don't want to clog up the list with this.) On the naming vehicles and other inanimante objects thread: We have a brown van we refer to as "the sh**mobile" because of it's horrible color. My Mom has a trailer she dotes on and calls Baby, and every time my Dad's truck needs "encouragement" to do something, he tells Bessie she can do it. We still need a name for our new car... 'Reesa wrote: >ObMisty: Has anyone ever wanted to know what kind of shops Haven has? >Whenever somebody comes back to it, they seem to pass through and industrial >section, but we never get to see any of the Herald-trainees shopping, or >perusing a toystore. *grin* My secret desire is to have a Misty scene >where she takes a character I like through a marketplace. Don't know why, >but I love reading about that kind of stuff. Valdemar needs a toy store!!! (IMHO, _everywhere_ needs a toy store!) Now who is it on list that is always saying they think Misty actually comes here and gets some ideas for her novels on-list? If they're right, perhaps soon we will see a scene where a favored character walk through a market to the toy store, where they are sold toys by a jolly, humourous toy salesman named Rynathian or something... (giggle) This list is great place for anyone who collects Quotes as I do. Thanks to all who have unknowingly helped me and keep them coming! “I do whatever my Rice Crispies tell me to.” ~ Author unknown Most likely going back into lurker-dom, Arielle, Goddess of Mispelling, Mistress of Typop's ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 15:49:07 -0500 From: Tammy Harris To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Happy:):):) / Ed Humor / cameos Message-ID: <36FEDE68D9-+AT+-medicine.dmed.iupui.edu> Somewhere lost in the sands of time, Barbara wrote: > Along the same lines, why are lifebonded couples always getting along > so well? I don't think Van and Stef always got along well. Remember the way Van treated Stef on the journey north. I know, he was under a great deal of stress and anguish. But he led a stressful life anyway. If this is the way Van acts under stress, I'm sure there were plenty of other times 'off camera' that they had difficulties. ................ Mat wrote: > Jake, the humor was.....interesting. :) Which school house rock is > that based on? I can't seem to place it. What's next? "Ma-age > Energy", or "No more Emperor"? :) How 'bout "How the trainee becomes a Herald"? Jake, I thought it was great! But gang, I think it's time to start worrying! Jake is rubbing off on Cennydd!! Pretty scary.... ................ Khenta wrote: > Yeah, while reading Born to Run, I came across this one > (p164): > _And frequently owls were not what they appeared to be._ I don't know about the rest of you, but all I could think of when I read this was, "Bob requires a human host" fromTwin Peaks. ................ Welcome to the newcomers! And Catherine, welcome home! We missed you! This place just hasn't been the same! May your path be bright this day Tammy "It's time to ask yourself what you believe" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:03:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Schoolhouse Rock meets Misty! Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Jake wrote: > All right. The Schoolhouse Rock I based that one off of was called "The > Tale of Mr. Morton." This is one of the newer ones, made in the late 80's I > believe (while the other ones were made around 1973). "The Tale of Mr. > Morton" is kind of fun and bouncy. > It's the last song on the Grammar Rock tape, and one of the better ones I > have listened to that was new (if that made any sense at all.) The other new > one was "Busy P's" (about prepositions) and it really stunk. Eek, I think I recognize that name. My brother has the new School House Rock album, with the songs sung by modern groups. I think he avoids that one, b/c IIRC, it's "sung" by some rapper. "It's Collegium Talia She's a chip off the block With your favorite, Collegium, Collegium Rock!" [Imagine little Talia appearing, then getting all buff and muscled, picking up a giant set of words, saying "Collegium Rock!"] Mat Cat Person, Adept, and |"Each man builds his own garden, by what God of Procrastination | his heart says is true. And mine is so mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | very special to me, but it seems I can http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/| share it with you." - Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: Mercedes Lackey mailing list Subject: Humor/Publishing stuff Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Tammy Harris wrote: > Piles, huh? Any graphs in them this time? (sorry all, in-joke) > Mat wrote: > > > Jake, the humor was.....interesting. :) Which school house rock is > > that based on? I can't seem to place it. What's next? "Ma-age > > Energy", or "No more Emperor"? :) > > How 'bout "How the trainee becomes a Herald"? Jake, I thought it was > great! But gang, I think it's time to start worrying! Jake is > rubbing off on Cennydd!! Pretty scary.... Uh-oh. And after my last post, I think it may be catching! > Khenta wrote: > > > Yeah, while reading Born to Run, I came across this one > > (p164): > > _And frequently owls were not what they appeared to be._ > > I don't know about the rest of you, but all I could think of when I > read this was, "Bob requires a human host" fromTwin Peaks. I remember wondering about that line last time I read BtR, but I can't remember why now. So Khenta, what does it mean? > Again with the piles! ====================================================================== Ok, here I am with more publishing info from the web. Del Rey's web site lists _Polgara_ as being the "last-ever" book from the Belgariad world (yeah, wasn't Sorceress of Kell supposed to be that?), and with a release date of fall 1997. :( Also, for those who liked Barbara Hambly's Darwath Trilogy (the one the song "Gil-shalos" on MM&M is about), she has a new book in that world comming out. It's called Mother of Winter, and has a release date of Oct 96. There's a sample chapter at the web page (http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey). I for one can't wait to get it. Oh, and McCaffery's got an "as-yet-untitled" Pern book coming out in "early 1997". Mat Cat Person, Adept, and |"Each man builds his own garden, by what God of Procrastination | his heart says is true. And mine is so mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | very special to me, but it seems I can http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/| share it with you." - Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:08:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "E. Angell" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Is Misty German?/movie roles/quote Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Korendil wrote: > >I have been in first year German for a whole two days now and my teacher > >passed out a sheet of German names, and what to my wondering eyes should > >appear but, Florian! Dirk! Stefan! (I saw Birgit's (from this list) name > >too!) So, does Misty like the German names, or is has anyone run across > >mention of her being German? > > > Wel, I think I remember seeing somewhere that she took German. I think > she says something in German at the Baen interveiw? I found this > baby-naming book at a dollar store (happens to be the same one someone on > the list has--I recognized definitions) that had things like Valdemar, > etc. in it.. Wasn't there a German or Prussian king named Waldemar a couple hundred years ago? I may be hallucinating, but I seem to remember that catching my attention in Western Civ last year. As for Heralds: The Movie, any ideas as to who should play Talia? I think Louis Turenne, (sp?) who plays Brother Theo on B5, would make a *perfect* Jadus. Summersong- the Marcus quote is from Messages From Earth. Raindancer, formerly known as Elizabeth "When I have a little money, I buy books, if any is left, I buy food and clothing." -Erasmus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:30:40 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: BofMZBFM/Darkover stuff/Power of Two/Casting Kero Message-ID: <199609052225.RAA17302-+AT+-cdale1.midwest.net> Undine wrote: >>>Speaking of Misty short stories: Each volume of _The Best of Marion Zimmer Bradley's Fantasy Magazine_ contains a Diana Tregarde story.<<< Are those still in print? I hope so. Melanie/Phoenix started me on Children of the Night, and so far so good (granted, I'm 20 pages into the book). It's supposed to be really good, from what I hear from y'all. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Undine also wrote: >>>And in Misty's short story in _Free Amazons of Darkover_, looks like she was already working on what lifebonding meant. "All the while, she couldn't help but be conscious of the deep and vital bond between the two women. It was something she'd been aware of for far longer than anyone in the Guild House had guessed--no one with even a touch of laran could have missed it--and the extent of their affection never failed to amaze her. She'd never seen anything like it...She would have given a great deal to have someone care for her the way these two cared for each other. The presence of that bond spurred her on when nothing else could." (p183 DAW pb)<<< Could be a lifebond.That was a really good anthology. My friend has the first paperback printing of that book, and she was gracious enough to let me read it. I can't remember any of the titles right now, but I loved the anthology. I am currently reading "Rediscovery" and "City of Sorcery." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can anybody tell me if "Darkover Landfall" is still in print? The local public library doesn't have it, and I haven't seen it anywhere else. Also, has anyone read Exile's Song? Is it any good? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Power of Two: It's not "theme song"; just a thought for one of the songs for the soundtrack. I think it would be good, because it's basically about partnership and love. Isn't that one of the fundamentals of the book? It was used in "Boys on the Side" and there were three close friends, IIRC. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Claris Smith wrote: >>>Bother, obMisty: uh, well, kind of--anybody know of a tape or cd with Sheebeg Sheemore (sp!) on it? I already knew a number of the songs in the KoGaS, etc., books, but am dying to hear that one!<<< I wish I knew. The only song I know from that series is "Simple Gifts." I sang that at a music evaluation (officially called Music Festival) along with "Caro Mio Ben" for all of you singers out there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lady Wintersong wrote: >>>Or maybe Kethry would just suicide when Tarma died, for I believe that they can't live without each other.<<< I don't think she'll do that. Rather, I think she would kind of fade away. In any case, I don't think Tarma as a le'shaye Kal'enedral would let her suicide, no matter how it breaks her heart. So I think the Star-Eyed would take them at the same time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deborah King wrote: >>>How about both. Remember, Kerowyn's tale began with a young, idealistic Lord's daughter and ended with a battle-hardened, seasoned soldier. Hannah would be excellent as the youngster, up through her training under Tarma; Stone could take over after she had seen some battles and begun to "harden."<<< I think the young Kero should be played by Samantha Mathis. Trouble with that: Samantha Mathis doesn't look anything like Sharon Stone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Khenta wrote: >>>Ok, so I didn't post it, and I've already deleted the msg, but wasn't it suggested for Tarma & Kethry? That would fit, wouldn't it? (Btw, I know this song only from the soundtrack from _Boys on the Side_, which is quite good. And it has a Joan Armatrading song!)<<< That was me! I'm guilty! I suggested it for Bedlam Bards, the reason being that the song was actually very concrete (excuse the pun) with cars and parking lots and all. I don't think they'd have cars in Valdemar, though they were on the verge of building one that works in Mage Storms. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cennydd wrote: >>> I like them much better as collabs with other artists (such as Joan Baez, or M-C Carpenter). <<< I never heard those, and I absolutely love Mary Chapin Carpenter! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Okay, uh... ObMisty: Whatever happened to Vanyel after he released the shield of vrondi from Valdemar? Did he kind of dissipate or is he still there? Love and other illogical emotions, Summersong, sometimes Spiffy the Cat, currently suffering from a malfunctioning brain "Dear Starfleet, Hate you. Hate the Federation. Taking Voyager. -- Janeway" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 17:29:10 CDT From: "Hth." To: Subject: Owls/lesbians/short story Message-ID: <05SEP96.18885115.0098.MUSIC-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU> How is "The owls are often not what they seem" a reference to Misty? Where Ah Come From (insert drawly Missouri accent), that's a Twin Peaks reference. Anybody remember this? "Without chemicals, the man points?" "The owls are not what they seem?" And the third one, about the smiling bag? What's the Misty connection? Jeez, Cennydd, I don't know. They gave me a copy of Rite of Passage when I went in for my license and told me not to come back until I could recite "Virginia Woolf" from memory Maybe it's because, unless I'm Way Wrong here, I technically fall in the Baby Dyke category. Isn't it under 22? That's what I always heard. Man, what an annoying piece of slang that is. Oy. And I'd settle for a BAD major lesbian character at this point. Although I always got the impression Need was, in life. I dunno, maybe I'm just stereotyping. Feminist avenger, lived in a commune, worked with her hands. It could happen. Speaking of gay fantasy (and I so often am), the new Year's Best Fantasy and Horror anthology (9th annual) has a cool Ellen Kushner (Swordspoint! Show of hands: who hasn't read it yet? Don't make me come back there) story called "The Hunt of the Unicorn," with another very sweet gay couple. I mean, they're not Richard and Alec, but they'll do. Actually, both the stories I've read so far -- that one and "Home for Christmas," by Nina Kiriki Hoffman -- have been excellent. Good omens for this year's YB. HTH r618-+AT+-academic.truman.edu "To handcrafted beers made in local breweries To yogurt, to yoga, to rice and beans and cheese To leather, to dildos, to curry vindaloo To huevos rancheros and Maya Angelou" --"La Vie Boheme" RENT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 96 19:39:09 -0400 From: Korendil To: "Misty List" Subject: Braid Challenges the Dragon W/O Punctuation who Says Aargh Message-ID: <9609052345.AA06628-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> >Korendil wrote: > >>ObMisty: Anyone else notice how many cameos Misty and her books put in in > > Yeah, while reading Born to Run, I came across this one (p164): > >_And frequently owls were not what they appeared to be._ Heh..I just found that one for the first time, looking for the WYRD passage a few days ago. I think that's what brought the subject back to my mind. OTOH, the ULTIMATE cameo is a tie between Misty and Larry appearing in KoGaS, and Eric thinking earlier in the book about how Kory's story was better tahn anythign else he had read recently--'telepathic horses or ancient aztec gods invading Dallas.' >f course, being a good >writer, she could elaborate on it, making a virtue of necessity and >developing need as a personnage. That's been something I've always wondered--how long ago did MIsty decide on certain plot twists, like Arrows leading into Ancar leading into Ma'ar leading into the Empire and tying in with the mage-wars? And how far futher does she have the plot. /me gasps. Wait a sec, everyone...we now know misty's writing firebird, the elizabeth book, and the 3 fairy tales..so...what about Valdemar?! BTW, according to my local walden, we have till oct. for SB, and B&N says late september...so I guess it seems that down here in Fla. we're getting it at the 23rd date:( >ObMisty: So far, she still hasn't had any good lesbian main-characters. Actually, Cen, I don't think there've been any at ALL. Unless someone from Eagle&Nightingale (just about the only misty book other than that bardic tales trash that I haven't read.) is... > How about doing some of the classic SR, Jake? >Like "Interjection" or "Conjunction Junction." Something along the lines >of: /me shudders. I have horrible memories of that stuff from 6th grade. Please, no more....aaaaaaah! >Didn't that happen in WoFate? When Elspeth is bugged about Skif always >following her? And I seem to remember it happening in alot of the Bardic >Voices >novels, BICBW. Yeah. Elspeth went around the markets in kata'shin'a'in (this is from when I reread the kata section months ago to type out the need part. Back during the main vkandis=consort arguement)...was a pretty good scene, actually;> UM..I don't remembering it happening in Bardic Voices. Sure, we fgget a lot of street scenes in Lark and Wren, but not any markets, iirc. Not much of them, at least. >Valdemar needs a toy store!!! (IMHO, _everywhere_ needs a toy store!) Now >who is >it on list that is always saying they think Misty actually comes here and >gets >some ideas for her novels on-list? If they're right, perhaps soon we will >see a >scene where a favored character walk through a market to the toy store, >where >they are sold toys by a jolly, humourous toy salesman named Rynathian or >something... (giggle) No no....my idea is that Misty has subconcious foresight, and writes us into the books, from the existence of a Lord Thesslay in Lark and Wren and her constant sheep mentions and the Pterry references. >Okay, uh... ObMisty: Whatever happened to Vanyel after he released the >shield of vrondi from Valdemar? Did he kind of dissipate or is he still >there? UM..I *think* he's still there, from a few things: A: Firesong is scared of Van getting angry at him for doing the Ma'ar body-snatching trick, which is chronologically after the sheiliding's gone. B: Danya mentioned something about finding out more about Yfandes in SB, iirc. >How is "The owls are often not what they seem" a reference to Misty? >Where Ah Come From (insert drawly Missouri accent), that's a Twin Peaks >reference. Anybody remember this? "Without chemicals, the man points?" >"The owls are not what they seem?" And the third one, about the smiling >bag? What's the Misty connection? I dunno, but Inever watched Twin Peaks, yet it seems to have a connection to SOMETHING In my head...maybe bondbirds? The tayledras accidentally gated to earth and are living in the south? -+AT+-_________________________/korendil-+AT+-icubed.net\________________________-+AT+- |Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High Court, | |Magus Minor, One in Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, God of All | |Things Nocturnal, Ailurophile, #Macintosh Op, and Bippy Worshipper. | \______________________________________________________________________/ / Nous avions un petit lapin et nous le promenions dans le quartier. \ \______________________________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Mat Timmerman To: Mercedes Lackey mailing list Subject: Oooooooold broads! :) / Swordspoint Message-ID: Summersong wrote: > Lady Wintersong wrote: > >>>Or maybe Kethry would just suicide when Tarma died, for I believe > that they > can't live without each other.<<< > > I don't think she'll do that. Rather, I think she would kind of fade away. > In any case, I don't think Tarma as a le'shaye Kal'enedral would let her > suicide, no matter how it breaks her heart. So I think the Star-Eyed would > take them at the same time. I've been meaning to say this for a while. I think it's pretty sure that T&K are both being preserved by magic, whether Kethry's or something else's, I don't know. I get this from an online chat with Misty Jake posted waaaaay back when (I actually still have it :) ) <<<<<<< Shelley Kilts: ok, I have to punch out here soon anyway. How old are Tarma and Kethry in BY THE SWORD? Mercedes(Misty): Very old. Around 100, I disremember the exact age. They're preserved by magic, like the Hawkbrothers... so real infirmity sets in in a matter of weeks just before Check Out Time. They're OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD broads. >>>>>>> I just love that last line. :) ============================================================================ > From: "Hth." > > (Swordspoint! Show of hands: who hasn't read it yet? Don't make me > come back there) [tentatively raises hand] Um, me Heather. _But_ I do have it. I'm going to read it after I finish Riddle Master of Hed (I'm in book2 now, liking it) and rereading MPrice for Kory. Honest. I am. :) Mat Cat Person, Adept, and |"Each man builds his own garden, by what God of Procrastination | his heart says is true. And mine is so mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | very special to me, but it seems I can http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/| share it with you." - Heather Alexander ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 19:44:22 EST From: haineca-+AT+-earlham.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Valdemar Message-ID: <009A7EEB.19617FE2.9-+AT+-earlham.edu> And as French cats say, Miau! On the subject of the name of Valdemar, I remember accidentally stumbling across the name Valdemar. As it turns out, Valdemar was the name of several kings in Denmark during the 17 or 18 hundreds. As for who should play Talia in a movie about Heralds, I have no really good ideas as to who should play her, except that I really want to nominate me for her part . I am something of a Talia-clone. (quick sheep - it's not my fault, Misty seems to get into my head and steal ideas for characters. I was using the name Firecat and then I read SW and found out what Firecats were. Sigh, slight laughter. End of tangent.) Pant, pant. I am done with my very long rambling. And a big scratch behind the ears to all, Lady Wildcat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 20:24:50 -0500 From: Claris Smith To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: More casting, sorry Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960906012450.00866e38-+AT+-comp.uark.edu> At 02:08 AM 9/6/96 +0100, you wrote: > As for who should play Talia in a movie about Heralds, I have no really >good ideas as to who should play her, except that I really want to >nominate me for her part . I am something of a Talia-clone. --Wildcat OK, this may sound nuts, but I suggest Dinah (sp?) Myers from Johnny Mnemonic and Dragonheart--WITHOUT the "glamour makeup" bit. She'd do well in a straight-talking role if somebody would just let the poor girl ACT!!! You know, Angela Bassett could certainly do Tarma's attitude, but she's too good-looking...no hawk-nose or long face... I just watched 12 Monkeys...what a WEIRD movie. I don't remember the description of Selenay, but the woman from 12M (Oh no! What's her *name*?) for some reason reminds me of her...(And I just watched the Crow2--My advice: Just say no. Yeccchhh!) BTW, somebody asked--Earlham is in Richmond, Indiana. *Claris Smith, Art/History Major, GM, sf/fantasy Artist, Gung Fu Student* *Mail me for info on Razorbattles convention & Art Show!* *ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu; http://comp.uark.edu/~ccsmith* -On a journey, ill, and over fields withered, dreams--go journeying still- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:32:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaguar To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk Subject: Naming cars/Casting Message-ID: Arielle wrote: On the naming vehicles and other inanimante objects thread: We have a brown van we refer to as "the sh**mobile" because of it's horrible color. My Mom has a trailer she dotes on and calls Baby, and every time my Dad's truck needs "encouragement" to do something, he tells Bessie she can do it. We still need a name for our new car... --- Our car is bright green and called Kermit. For obvious reasons, and for the not-so-obvious reason of my obsession with Kermit-the-merc from Kung Fu: TLC. The car I've always wanted comes with a name, though...and a personality to boot! Who here remembers KITT, the star-car of Knight Rider? I had a crush on him/it when I was about six. :) Still watch the show, as a matter of fact. ObMisty (weak, I know): Someone brought up modern-day Heralds once...betcha the Companions would end up looking like KITT (or did someone already say that?) :) ObMisty (better!): Raindancer wrote: As for Heralds: The Movie, any ideas as to who should play Talia? -- Current suggestions, and I am once again taking them for the Master Cast List! Jake, you have others from your web page, I see...anyone who gave them to me before, don't again, unless you've changed your mind or added someone. Now: Talia - Jamie Lee Curtis, Nana Visitor, Jodie Foster (3), Fairuza Balk, Uma Thurman (3), Samantha Mathis, Molly Ringwald, Clare Danes See? We even provide the casting people with a choice! We're *nice* fans. As opposed to those who freak when their first choice isn't chosen. Or should that be Chosen? ;) Love, Jaguar ) _,'| _.-''``-...___..--'; /, \'. _..-' , ,--...--''' < \ .`--''' ` /| `-,;' ; ; ; __...--'' __...--_..' .;.' (,__....----''' (,..--'' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jaguar To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: More casting, sorry Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Claris Smith wrote: > I just watched 12 Monkeys...what a WEIRD movie. I don't remember the > description of Selenay, but the woman from 12M (Oh no! What's her *name*?) > for some reason reminds me of her...(And I just watched the Crow2--My > advice: Just say no. Yeccchhh!) > Madeline Stowe, I presume? She's pretty good...so far we've got people like ummmm...Glenn Close is the only one off the top of my head. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I wanna Eddings book from the POV of SILK!!!!! <--- 5! I already know how Polgara thinks, I wanna get inside Silk's mind...hmmmm, on second thought, maybe not. "*My* subconscious?...Is a dark and dank place..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ObMisty: Is there anyone in the vicinity of Asheville, NC? Because I found a store there that sells the friendship rings like Kris and Talia traded. Unfortunatly, I found it at a point where I didn't have any money, otherwise I'd have gotten one for my big brother-by-choice. They also have another kind, where the hands detach into two separate rings, but those aren't as nice, IMHO. Love, Jaguar ) _,'| _.-''``-...___..--'; /, \'. _..-' , ,--...--''' < \ .`--''' ` /| `-,;' ; ; ; __...--'' __...--_..' .;.' (,__....----''' (,..--'' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Morgana To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: BofMZBFM/Darkover stuff/Power of Two/Casting Kero Message-ID: Re: Summersong asking about Exile's Song..... Yes! Yes! Good book! Good book! :) Buy! Buy! :) Sorry. :) As for landfall, I think it's still out there...... but I bought my copy a couple of years ago...... they reprint her stuff every couple, it seems like... As for the short story? About the lifebond...... that sounds like something that would be alot of fun to read more about .... :) Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky, and some one will pass the messege to Misty and MZB. Morgana, Goddess of Things Unseen Student of the hectic lifestyle And fishy elf. ** I told the priest - Don't count on any second coming. God got his a** kicked the first time he came down her slumming. He had the balls to come, the gall to die and then forgive us - No, I don't wonder why, I wonder what he thought it would get us..... ** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:21:41 +0930 From: "Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid Challenges the Dragon W/O Punctuation who Says Aargh Message-ID: <9609060151.AA22904-+AT+-bilbo.cc.flinders.edu.au> >>ObMisty: So far, she still hasn't had any good lesbian main-characters. What about Keren, Ylsa and ??? forgot her name in AFlight but I agree a main character like Talia, Kero or Elspeth would be great and very affirming? ((I actually think that Kathryn Jayneway could find herself a woman lover butt maybe that is wishful thinking - her a B'Elanna Torres - there's a fiery combination)) mind you unless you go to the "lesbian" literature, they are hard to find except for MZB with Jaelle and Magda in her Darkover novels - but really how many are there in mainstram sci/fi or fantazy? BTW have any of you read the Stoner McTavish mysteries - not fantasy but sort of psychic whodunits? Zen hugs to you all Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 810 *********************************