MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 825

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Master Cast List!!!!! 2nd. ed.
	by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
  2) Cherryh
	by Clarissa Smith/Claris Boii <ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>
  3) Gentle/Yfandes/Cherryh
	by Khenta Blaufalk <bhanel-+AT+-aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
  4) Storm Breaking
	by undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
  5) Re: Florian's Heraldic identity
	by skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele)
  6) movie
	by Alicia Rice <96rice-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>
  7) Re: Cherryh/Friends of Valdemar
	by Alicia Rice <96rice-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>
  8) Re: Braid: Misty's males/Julie's ?/Stuff
	by Alicia Rice <96rice-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>
  9) Re: Gentle - Grunts
	by Gyrfalcon <msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu>
 10) Florian
	by "Barbara J. Webb" <magik-+AT+-socketis.net>
 11) Florian
	by "Hth." <R618-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
 12) Pfeiffer / Companions.
	by mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
 13) Arrow's Online/Disney and Misty...
	by Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
 14) Nooooooooooo! The worst has come to pass!
	by Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
 15) Braid, of sorts...
	by haineca-+AT+-earlham.edu
 16) Re: Florian
	by FISCHER  CHELSEA <Chelsea.Fischer-+AT+-Colorado.EDU>
 17) Re: Florian
	by "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>
 18) Re: Florian
	by "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>
 19) An'desha/Yfandes's Fetching/Jumping
	by Mat the Cat in Green <mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>
 20) Heather Alexander / Casting.
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 21) Cherryh / Florian 
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
 22) Re: Mel and his nevermind ;)
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
 23) Re: Nooooooooooo! The worst has come to pass!
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
 24) Re: Florian's Heraldic identity
	by Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:51:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Master Cast List!!!!! 2nd. ed.
Message-ID: <199609121451.AA281059877-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu>

> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu wrote:
> 
> > I meant to send this sooner, but I'd like to (belatedly) propose Emma
> > Thompson as Selenay.  She's seems strong enough to pull it off really well.
>  Agreed- she was *so* good in Much Ado About Nothing... I *love* that
> movie!
> 
 
I love that movie, too!  It was her performance as Beatrice that gave me the
idea that she could easily be Selenay.

As for mage storm in real life, the weather here in Chicago is also showing
signs of something strange.  By 8 am yesterday, the sky was pitch black and
we had an unpredicted downpour.  Then, this morning, the temp dropped to
about 55 or so.  That's the usual for October or November.  As they say,
life imitates art....

Nina	 


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:43:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Clarissa Smith/Claris Boii <ccsmith-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Cherryh
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.960912113100.9601A-100000-+AT+-comp.uark.edu>

Mat said:
> >BTW - on the subject of FFF, has anyone read _The Tree of Swords and
> >Jewels_, by CJ Cherryh, that the song "Arafel's Lameny" is based on?  All
> >I know is that it's a sequel to another book.  What's it about?
> 
Kory replied:
> It is VERY boring. I began it awhile ago, and never read all of it. 
> Supposedly one of Cherryh's worst works. 
> 

HRm, I loved _Arafel's Saga_ (name of omnibus edition).  But the pace and
tone of the story is quite dreamy and mystical, not to everyone's taste.
If you ever read the Lloyd Alexander books, there's some of the same
source material (Grugach = Gurgi, etc.).  It's a sort of Celtic-dawn-era
world with magick and elven-types, heavy emphasis on love-relationships
and parent-child relationships. 

And I DO like Cherryh! Her good stuff, that is! <weg> Those of you who
like sf, try the Chanur books, or the Rimrunner books.  I also liked the
Merovingen Nights shared-world things.  (ANd I'm not just saying that
because she answers her e-mail! (She sent me a cover .jpg of one of her
books for a review in my zine)). 

No obMisty, sorry.  'Cept that I'm trying to find out how much of a fee
she requires at cons, trying to recruit her for ours (next years, that
is)! (Star-eyed forfend!
8 DAYS LEFT!!!)

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  Art/History Major	         *   Blow the stars home, Wind,
  Sf/fantasy/graphic artist      *   blow the stars home, 
  GM & game writer               *   Ere morning drowns them with golden foam.
			http://comp.uark.edu/~ccsmith/
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:33:11 +0200 (METDST)
From: Khenta Blaufalk <bhanel-+AT+-aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: Misty mail <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Gentle/Yfandes/Cherryh
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960912194724.37848A-100000-+AT+-aixterm8.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>

(now, doesn't the subject-line sound almost like "Gentle, Yfandes, with 
the cherries!" oy, what is my mind doing to me...)

Captain Sundancer wrote:

>And who is Mary Gentle? Why have I never heard of her? That's a *great* 
>quote.

She's a british author, IIRC. I've read some of her books (Silver Hawk?; 
Golden Witchbreed and its sequel Ancient Light, sf both and the latter 
rather dystopian; btw can anybody confirm that the cover art from Golden 
Witchbreed was re-used for Paula Volsky's Throne of Wolfes<?>? I keep 
having this weird deja vus about that picture and I'm not sure about it - 
saw the original <british?> cover just once and on the german edition was 
a different one. If that's true I'm going to be really annoyed with the 
press - recycling cover art? Igitt.) and thought they were ok. Must admit 
that I've never heard of Grunts before. It sounds funny.
Though I tried Rats and Gargoyles a couple of weeks ago - got halfway 
into it and then dropped it. It was so... lengthy and ungripping <if 
that's a word>, IMO. 
And Jo Clayton does a better job where women falling in love with 
overweight and/or sloppy men are concerned. IMO again. :) 
======================================================================

Barbara wrote:

>How do we know that Yfandes wasn't grove born?  She did lend her 
>magic to Van, and I thought that was something only grove born 
>companions could do.  Or is this another instance of Misty changing 
>the rules in the middle of the game?

Well, AFAIK, grove-born Companions manifest or are born on the night of 
the choosing, and 'Fandes didn't. IIRC, she was living in the Grove and 
had two kids. Didn't Savil or someone else make a comment along the lines 
"the only adult unchosen Companion in the Grove has chosen him?" So I 
suppose she was well known in the Heraldic Circle. 
<groan - do I really have to capitalize all these words? This _does_ look 
like German to me, every second word capitalized and all...> :)
=======================================================================

Mat the Cat in Green <Green Cat would not be very appropriate, wouldn't 
it :)> wrote:

>Does anyone here actually like Cherryh?  I read Rusalka, was bored to
>death.  Tried to read Fortress in the Eye of Time, was bored.  Now I have
>Downbelow Station from the library.  But now I have better library books
>to read (not to mention MPrice again for you).  I almost bought one of
>those Morgaine books in the Village, but I remembered my past experiences
>with her skeptically. 

I like some of her books, but not all. Rimrunner is an absolute favourite 
of mine, although actually I don't like dystopian novels (and her 
attitude towards female sexuality in this book _is_ dystopian, IMO). Her 
characterizations are just brilliant, as is her ability to make you look 
through the character's eyes and live in the character's body. 
Her "aliens" really _are_ alien, without a trace of human-like behaviour; 
that's what makes them real for me (and what gets me annoyed with most of 
the StarTrek aliens).
Though I don't know why it is that some books just don't grab me (Goblin 
Mirror, for instance). Hmm, now that I think about it, it was her fantasy 
that I couldn't get into (GM, Paladin).
But I'm a bit curious about Rider at the Gate <?>; only saw the blurb 
once. A quasi-telepathic bond between the riders and their _black_ 
horses? What's this, another allusion to Misty?


Walk in beauty

Khenta Blaufalk aka Skyfire & Aar
Goddess of Incomplete Vocabulary and Garbled Grammar 
===================================================================
everybody wears a halo - never saw nothing at all
so who put the bullet hole in peggy's kitchen wall?
===================================================================
gosh, now I even put the music in my sig - can't get it out of my head...






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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:18:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: undine <stafford-+AT+-iac.net>
To: list lackey <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Storm Breaking
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960912151513.11608A-100000-+AT+-wabash.iac.net>

Heyla,

 Just a brief note to let you know that my wholesaler has received SB! 
And there was much rejoicing ;) So go haunt your favorite bookstore. They
should have it soon if they haven't gotten it already. I'm hoping to have 
it in my grasp tomorrow!

WTTW,
Undine 


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:43:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: skarzin-+AT+-soonet.ca (Tony and Michele)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Florian's Heraldic identity
Message-ID: <199609121943.PAA23259-+AT+-victory.soonet.ca>

Nina wrote: 

towards the end of SR, several Companions
>volunteered to take Karal, Firesong, etc. to Urtho's tower. Florian said
>that the one who went with An'desha was his little sister (Ilya I think her
>name was).  Anyway, I was wondering if she was his sister in terms of when
>they were human, or if they were born from the same Companion mother.  A
>random question, but it's been nagging me since I reread SR.
>
>Any ideas/comments?
-------------------------------------------------------------
Ooh, good question Nina!  

I can't think of a young herald who was killed, and had a sister that
was also a herald, that Van would recognize.  There MUST be someone
who has a better memory than I do!!! Does anyone have ideas about this, 
it's really bugging me.

Regards,
Michele 8>D


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:35:22 -0600
From: Alicia Rice <96rice-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: movie
Message-ID: <1369583574-12025342-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>

Wintersong said:
>And maybe Michelle Pfieffer willl make a good Kero. Did anyone watch
>Dangerous Minds?

i did and i really liked how she did the tough yet tender teacher role that
is perfect for KERO
.....Wynd


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:52:04 -0600
From: Alicia Rice <96rice-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Cherryh/Friends of Valdemar
Message-ID: <1369582572-12085611-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>

Matt said:
>Does anyone here actually like Cherryh?  I read Rusalka, was bored to
>death.  Tried to read Fortress in the Eye of Time, was bored.  Now I have
>Downbelow Station from the library.  But now I have better library books
>to read (not to mention MPrice again for you).  I almost bought one of
>those Morgaine books in the Village, but I remembered my past experiences
>with her skeptically. 

I like her but not enough to buy her books (empties pockets and all I find
is LINT) I spend WAY to much money on bodice rippers <i'm so ASHAMED> Really
though shes good for a long distance read like... a chapter a month.

Obmisty....Uhhhh does Velgarth have bodice rippers? (pityful pityful pityful)

....Wynd


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:08:24 -0600
From: Alicia Rice <96rice-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid: Misty's males/Julie's ?/Stuff
Message-ID: <1369581592-12144529-+AT+-mac2.burlington.k12.ia.us>

Cennydd said:
>Only if you think that Alberich is fat and balding and effusively
>over-the-top.  I always thought of him as lean, full-haired, and very
>understated.  He would need an actor with a very spare, no-frills style,
>which Connery couldn't manage, even if they *did* tie him up and threaten
>him.
>

I say 
bbbllllppphhhptttttss

is there enough p's in there for a raspberry??

Wynd


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:29:52 -0400
From: Gyrfalcon <msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Gentle - Grunts
Message-ID: <323880D0.7F4B-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu>

Khenta Blaufalk wrote:

> Captain Sundancer wrote:
> 
> >And who is Mary Gentle? Why have I never heard of her? That's a *great*
> >quote.

<snip, hack, whumpum!>

> and thought they were ok. Must admit that I've never heard of Grunts 
> before. It sounds funny. Though I tried Rats and Gargoyles a couple 
> of weeks ago - got halfway into it and then dropped it. It was so... 
> lengthy and ungripping <if that's a word>, IMO.

Grunts, gah.  You guys would have to go and drag up a bad reading
experience.
It's a basic story of the aftermath of the Light vs Dark war, with one
tribe
of Orcs gaining a magical advantage (Modern military weapons and
training), 
though the Light wins again, this tribe (Or company) manages to hold
it's own.

It does have some good lines but on the whole the writing was rather
weak.  As
Khenta said, ungripping (and boring, lengthy, and uninteresting.)

In fact the only reason I finished the bloody thing was the hope that it
would 
miraculously turn around and get marginally better (It didn't, but by
the time 
I resigned myself to that fact, I was more than halfway through.)  It's
also the
only book I ever _gave_ away.

Fair winds and skies,

--Gyrfalcon
==================msowers-+AT+-menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu==================
Sometimes, even the darkest of mages hear a nagging little voice in
the back of their mind, urging them to drag out the old armor, dress up
and play the White Knight for a while.

Remember, miracles do happen
========================================================================

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Date:          Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:48:26 +0000
From: "Barbara J. Webb" <magik-+AT+-socketis.net>
To: Mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Florian
Message-ID: <199609122142.QAA10760-+AT+-mail.socketis.net>

If Florian is Mardic, then where is Donni?  What happens to your 
lifebond if you come back as a Companion?  I hate to think that 
lifebonds just go away at death -- makes them seem less importanat -- 
and I don't think they do, else the whole Vahn/Lendle/Stef thing might 
have worked differently.   So, if your lifebonded, do you have to 
decide between being a loser and just going on to Haven to live 
Happily Ever After, or doing your duty and being miserable without 
your lifemate?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Barbara
Keeper of the Lord Vkandis Preposition Hamster Muad'dib

magik-+AT+-socketis.net
       "The Heart may freeze, or it can burn
        The pain will ease, if I can learn
        There is no future; there is no past
        I live this moment as my last..." --
                               Another Day, _RENT_

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Date:        Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:43:12 CDT
From: "Hth." <R618-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>
To: <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Florian
Message-ID:  <12SEP96.19137687.0118.MUSIC-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU>

My unsubstantiated opinion (by necessity, since Misty hasn't addressed
this question): when lifebonded Heralds come back to do their duty as
Companions, if the other one is unavailable (or not a Herald), I doubt
they're miserable.  From what I gather, a Companion's bond to her Herald
is stronger than a Herald's bond to her Companion.

Companions seem custom-designed to need nothing more than their Chosen.
Their purpose for being on the planet at this time is to help and uphold
their Heralds, which is why they never seem to form bonds outside the
Companion-Herald relationship.  They have friends, but you never hear
about Companions falling in love, or lifebonding, or getting married.
Because Companions aren't exactly autonomous beings anymore.  They're
the Heralds' support system.

Sooo, I would say the strength and primacy of the Companion-Chosen bond
would keep the Companion from total despair while temporarily separated
from his lifebonded.

Of course, Florian hasn't Chosen yet.  But then, from Danya's comments,
it sounds like we learn in SBreaking that he's not Mardic, but something
"different" and sort of avatar-like.


HTH
r618-+AT+-academic.truman.edu
"I can't control my destiny
 I trust my soul
 My only goal is just -- to be
 There's only now
 There's only here
 Give in to love, or live in fear"
     --"Another Day" RENT

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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 08:56:33 EST
From: mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com (Kerry Mealing)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Pfeiffer / Companions.
Message-ID: <9609122256.AA04125-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>


Heather wrote:
> I like Michelle Pfeiffer (okay, in general, but keep reading -- the
> sentence goes on) as Kethry, not Kerowyn.  Michelle has such a good
> range of character and emotion (check out the range between Wolf and
> Ladyhawke, and the four separate Selina Kyles in Batman Returns) that
> she seems perfect for Kethry, who was quite the actress herself.  Kethry
> is always in disguise, acting ditzy or scheming or vampy or whatever,
> she can pull of glam and nobility with the best of them, or turn deadly
> serious and just plain deadly.  She needs an actress who can play
> everything Kethry can!  I think it screams Michelle.  (I'd-- no, I'm
> sorry.  I've gone too far.)

Mmmm, good point. The lady can act. Let her play both parts - the young
Kethry from OathB* & Kero in BTS - she's capable of distinguishing the
two characters adequately (IMHO).


Danya wrote:
> 33 AM 9/12/96 +0100, Kerry Mealing wrote:
> >Whoaaaaaa Nelly. Where (barring Storm Breaking, which I don't have), is
> >the evidence that anyone other than Yfandes was able to fetch themselves
> >along to move faster. Yes, Companions use node-power as energy for endurance
> >and speed I can't remember any of them fetching themselves along apart
> >from 'Fandes.
> 
> Someone explained this somewhere, that the way the Companions use the
> node-power to move themselves along faster is to do this weird fetching
> thing that they can do.  I forget.  Was Gwena talking to Elspeth about that?
> Or Yfandes to Vanyel?  Or Florian to Karal?  Some Companion explained it to
> someone who had enough knowledge of magic and/or fetching (a la Firecat
> travel) to understand the process.

Yfandes explains it briefly, grimly, to Stefan on that wild mad dash at
the end of MPrice. I haven't read MPrice recently (a friend has it) but
I don't remember any implication that it was an ability all Companions have
- I got the impression that it was something Yfandes could do.
And if you check out the timing - she did, in a candle-mark or so,
what is said to have taken 2-3 days of hard riding. Even node-boosted,
I don't think normal companions have that speed. 
And besides when Companion travel is described normally, it's just described
as moving very fast - when Yfandes did the ride, she was moving verry fast
-and- every so often, would jump and lurch in mid-air - ie would fetch 
every so often. That's the only place that type of lurching is described
in Companion riding.

> >Ghost (Tashir's Companion) is evidence that some Companions do get gifts
> >that others don't (he was "something of a Mind-Healer"). Gwena also, has
> >channelling/mage-gifts that not all Companions have.
> 
> I think a Companion (Gwena?) also said that all Companions can serve as
> channels (or something like that).  (You'll get a ton more textevd of that
> in SB.)

I think Gwena said that all Companions can lend their chosen energy. The
implication from Winds was that -some- Companions can channel energy from
the nodes & lines and that -some- Companions have node-gift.

Cheers,
Kerry. <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>

"It takes more to winning a revolution than standing in the middle of the
 oat field, hoisting your pitchfork in the air, and crying 'SERFS UP!'"
-- Commentary on peasants revolting, from the Gurpsnet mailing list.










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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:49:06 -0400
From: Soljan-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Arrow's Online/Disney and Misty...
Message-ID: <960912194905_307136503-+AT+-emout03.mail.aol.com>

Julie writes again:
<< I'm sure she wouldn't mind company! She
 is usually in the fantasy room on wensday nights during the Queens Own
 meetings, from 9:30pm to midnight every wensday. Check out the Arrows
 Online page on the internet for more details. >>

  Queen's Own meetings or Arrow's Online?  I usually try to get to the AO
meetings.  The people there are really great.  Windshadow and I try to get to
the persona ones the most though.  They're more fun! <g>

Arielle writes:
>>The blonde in Jurassic Park is Laura Dern, who has been one of my favorite 
actresses for the past few years now. I don't think I could see her as Kero
(nor 
Michelle either), but perhaps she would make a good Kethry. If you were to
dye 
her hair a light brown, bring back the curls she had in Wild At Heart (minus
a 
few inches in hair length) and pop in some brown contacts, I think she could 
make a great Talia! <<
  Yeah,  I think Kethry would be the better choice.  Hmmm...I like the Talia
idea though.  

>>Imagine what the Disney version of a Misty Story would be like!
 	   (*Arielle Cringes, Sheeps and Runs!*)<<
  Ahhhhhh!!! No!!  Okay, some ideas of what could happen.
Arrows:
Talia isn't forced to get married,  and doesn't run away.  She just leaves
with the pretty horsie.  
The Blues who attack her never do anything worse then call her bad names.
 Instead of falling into the river,  she's pushed and slips in a puddle,  and
hits her head.  Then everyone saves her.
Those scenes with her and Kris in the Waystations never happen.  
Ancar isn't a bad guy,  he's just misunderstood.  
Kris dies,  but not of arrow wounds.  If he does,  there isn't any blood and
we don't see it.  
Talia isn't raped by the guards,  and her feet are never crushed.  She's just
kept hungry and gets slapped a little...
  I think that's enough...I'm scaring myself.

Lady Silvermoon
LIG,  Leader of the DDMF,  Goddess of Sensitivity
and Firecat,  Cat Person
"Look at me,  I can write a melody,  but I can't expect a soul to care..."

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:57:14 -0400
From: Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Nooooooooooo! The worst has come to pass!
Message-ID: <960912195702_521476501-+AT+-emout18.mail.aol.com>

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I have to unsubscribe in a couple days, what with
doing a good job on my homework, I don't have much time to even eat dinner
let alone read the Misty list! I will still be participating in the Mage-War,
though I'm not sure  what I could contribute. 

I'll probably come back on week-long vacations, but other than that, this is
<sob> goodbye! (Sorry Cennydd, one of your adoring fans is leaving)  :~(

I'll always forgive you but never forget you, 
Lady Nightshadow aka Shady 
Goddess of Forgiveness

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:31:51 EST
From: haineca-+AT+-earlham.edu
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Braid, of sorts...
Message-ID: <009A8469.831DC5DE.34-+AT+-earlham.edu>

Heyla one and all!

  Several random questions here in this nice little message.  First of 
all, does anyone in Velgarth have hay fever or allergic reactions to nasty 
little plants like ragweed or dust or mold?  I haven't noticed any but 
it's a curiosity thing for me I guess.  I'm sure that the Healers could do 
something to help (have the body build up certain antibdies to dust, mold, 
plants, etc.) so the problem of hay fever may not have come up.
  I know that it's a bit far fetched but I was kind of wondering what all 
of you thought about this.
  Ohhh... I found out that SB should be here in Richmond in a few 
days!!!!!!!  (Sound of Lady Wildcat bouncing excitedly in her chair)

  Hearty scratches behind the ears to all,
Lady Wildcat, Lady of most things Kittenish, blue roses, and dumb luck

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:49:13 -0600 (MDT)
From: FISCHER  CHELSEA <Chelsea.Fischer-+AT+-Colorado.EDU>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Florian
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.960912184609.28975A-100000-+AT+-ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

not having read the new book yet, i probably shouldn't even be getting
into this... but... here goes anyway :)

On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Barbara J. Webb wrote:

> If Florian is Mardic, then where is Donni?  What happens to your 

didn't someone (i have no idea who, sorry) say a few days ago that Florian
has a sister?  ...could that possibly be Donni?????  

chelsea

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:13:52 -0700
From: "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Florian
Message-ID: <199609130113.SAA08481-+AT+-latimes.com>

At 10:47 PM 9/12/96 +0100, Barbara J. Webb wrote:
>If Florian is Mardic, then where is Donni? 

Well, Florian apparently showed up for the very specific task of being
around for Karal (you'll get the idea of just how specific that is when you
get your hands on SB).  So, if he IS Mardic, he might have agreed to be
separated from Donni for the time it would take to complete that task (After
all, how long was Van separated from his lifebonded before Stef showed up?).

> What happens to your 
>lifebond if you come back as a Companion?  

Coming back as a Companion is a definite choice, and some Companions have
really specific things they are sent to do.  So your lifebonded might still
be out "there" somewhere, but the Herald in you made you take the job
because SOMEONE had to do it, no matter the price.

>I hate to think that 
>lifebonds just go away at death -- makes them seem less importanat -- 
>and I don't think they do, else the whole Vahn/Lendle/Stef thing might 
>have worked differently.   

I think lifebonds definitely transcend death.  You just aren't guaranteed
that your lifebonded is going to be in the same species or at an appropriate
age or in the same geographic area to have anything to do with you on any
given go-around of the cosmic cycle.

>So, if your lifebonded, do you have to 
>decide between being a loser and just going on to Haven to live 
>Happily Ever After, or doing your duty and being miserable without 
>your lifemate?  Inquiring minds want to know.

The choice seems to be:  (1) Go to the Havens, live happily ever after, and
be bored out of your mind if you're someone like Van or (2) Agree to be
whatever the deities want you to be for whatever task they need done and
pray like crazy that they let your lifebonded show up in a suitable form,
place and time--and definitely do not bet on that happening!

Danya


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:24:17 -0700
From: "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Florian
Message-ID: <199609130124.SAA08585-+AT+-latimes.com>

>Of course, Florian hasn't Chosen yet.  But then, from Danya's comments,
>it sounds like we learn in SBreaking that he's not Mardic, but something
>"different" and sort of avatar-like.

He's someone.  He's definitely someone.  Like Dawnfire was someone.  I just
can't place him for the life of me.  And . . .


*** POSSIBLE SB SPOILER ***



. . . when he completes his assignment with Karal he needs to wait on the
Moon Paths for some reason before going onto his next assignment.  I
wouldn't be shocked to find out that he IS waiting for his lifebonded to
show up or something like that.

Danya


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:26:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mat the Cat in Green <mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>
To: Mercedes Lackey mailing list <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: An'desha/Yfandes's Fetching/Jumping
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.960912210353.4625B-100000-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>

> From: "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>

> >What happends to Shin'a'in with mage-potential?
> 
> They become a special type of shaman.  (Keep an eye on An'desha in SB, and
> all should be answered on this point.)

Ok, I'm voting for him being Sworn to all 4 faces of the Goddess.  After
all, in WoFury, he mentions that that's what the black-looking ring that
the leysha'e Kal'enedral give to him/Falconsbane meant.  It was one of the
"courting gifts".  The ring looked black normally, but if one held it up
to the light (like Falconsbane never did), you could see all the colors of
the earth in it (paraphrase here.  me-+AT+-lab-+AT+-school, WoFury-+AT+-home).  He said
that only those Sworn to all 4 faces wear them.  Then they'res his
distrust of normal shaman, yet his obvious priestly calling.  Not to
mention that he's an Adept.  I've been saying this whenever it came up
since SR came out, so it'd be kind of cool if I'm right.


==========================================================================
> From: Kerry Mealing <mealink-+AT+-syd.au.swissbank.com>

> Yfandes explains it briefly, grimly, to Stefan on that wild mad dash at
> the end of MPrice. I haven't read MPrice recently (a friend has it) but
> I don't remember any implication that it was an ability all Companions have
> - I got the impression that it was something Yfandes could do.
> And if you check out the timing - she did, in a candle-mark or so,
> what is said to have taken 2-3 days of hard riding. Even node-boosted,
> I don't think normal companions have that speed. 
> And besides when Companion travel is described normally, it's just described
> as moving very fast - when Yfandes did the ride, she was moving verry fast
> -and- every so often, would jump and lurch in mid-air - ie would fetch 
> every so often. That's the only place that type of lurching is described
> in Companion riding.

Another argument against the Fetching thing for all Companions is Altra.
He says that Jumping is an ability that Companions don't have.  Yfandes,
though, might have had the Fetching Gift, and how to move herself with it,
like Dirk read about.  

BTW - when in SW does Altra Jump with Karal?  I was looking for it last
time I read Storms, but I couldn't find it, except in Karal's reference to
being sick "last time" at the end of SR (the going to Tremane scene).


Mat
Cat Person, Champion in Green,   |"Each man builds his own garden, by what
Adept, and God of Procrastination| his heart says is true. And mine is so
mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu       | very special to me, but it seems I can
http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/| share it with you." - Heather Alexander


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:19:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Heather Alexander / Casting.
Message-ID: <199609130219.WAA19158-+AT+-orion.webspan.net>

A repost, since the list booted me last night for some reason. 

I wrote:
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Mat wrote (about the "male" HA voice sounding like Sean Connery):
>
>>LOL!  I never thought about it, but now that I do, you're right.  She does
>>sound a bit like him.  I can just hear "this place is not your land/so
>>heed me Herald Vahnyel/and now turn aside your hand."  Oh, and the FFF
>>song is "The Captive".  
>
>Indeed.  You people are right, a bit.  Although I always pictured that male
>voice to go along with one of those big bearish type guys (who they ALWAYS
>cast as bad people... I don't remember what the Lord looked like in THE
>CAPTIVE but I would assume he was a big boorish lout.  Which Sean Connery
isn't.
>
>Oh, and for you HA fans out there waiting for Membership Kits / Life's
>Flame, here's the skinny on it from her own mouth:
>
>>Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:56:05 -0700
>>X-Sender: philo-+AT+-mail
>>To: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
>>From: Heather Alexander <seafire-+AT+-teleport.com>
>>Subject: Re: Life's Flame
>>
>>At 06:05 PM 9/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks a bunch.  One final question before I stop pestering you people: Are
>>>you mailing the Heather's Heathens membership kits after tour also? 
>[also meaning that they're mailing the Life's Flame CD's...]
>>
>>
>>Yes, we are back now and will be trying to get things out by the end of the
>>week.  With luck, Heathens will receive their stuff early next week!  :)
>>
>>-----
>>Heather Alexander                                 seafire-+AT+-teleport.com
>>Sea Fire Productions                 http://www.teleport.com/~seafire/
>>POB Box 875 - Moss Beach, CA 94038
>>
>
>/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
>Casting: All right.  I'm sticking my nose in here just once.  Denise Crosby
>as Kerowyn. Why? Better than Sharon Stone.  Best I can think of.

Jacob D. Adamo / Freelance Writing and Art / <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>

"The problem with Internet books is that they are written by people who
obviously have no lives, and are insane, and think the rest of the world is
insane, too. Or is it that they're sane and they think everyone else is
insane? Or is it that we're sane and we think that everyone else is insane?
Or is it that we know we're insane and we think everyone else is insane?
<pause> Or was that sane?" -- Kim


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:29:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Cherryh / Florian 
Message-ID: <199609130229.WAA20358-+AT+-orion.webspan.net>

Mat wrote -- 

>>Does anyone here actually like Cherryh?  I read Rusalka, was bored to
>>death.  Tried to read Fortress in the Eye of Time, was bored.  Now I have
>>Downbelow Station from the library.  

And Khenta answered --

>I like some of her books, but not all. 

Well, I for one *cringe* don't like what I've read of her so far, except
Rusalka.  But then again, I had my own reasons for that that weren't REALLY
book-related.  

I tried those Hell books (the collabs...) and they were drab.  And
Hellburner, a SciFi, it was bleah.  Haven't tried the Merovignen (sp) Nights
yet, but I'm told that was pretty good.  Miss Cherryh is on Compuserve all
the time, and, while she doesn't respond to Yells or Personal Messages (IM's
for you.. *shudder* AOL'ers) she seems like a nice person.  

//////

Barbara wrote:

>If Florian is Mardic, then where is Donni?

Just a semantic question, here.  Don't the reincarnated Companions have the
similar name thing going on?  Savil / Sayvil (sp) et al?  Wouldn't Misty
parallel that in the rest of her books?  So, if Mardic came back, he'd have
a twisty name like.. oh, I don't know, Medrek or something, right?

(To note, I don't know if we covered this yet, because *bows head in shame*
I didn't read ALL of the thread and I kind of got Unsubscribed.)  

Peace and Balance

Jake


Jake Adamo (rynath-+AT+-webspan.net)
http://www.webspan.net/~rynath
Mercedes Lackey Information FAQ Administrator

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problem is asking the right question." -- THE JOY MACHINE, James Gunn and
Theodore Sturgeon.


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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Mel and his nevermind ;)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960912194912.11805A-100000-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>

On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Gar & Julie McLaughlin wrote:

> UM...we can get some other actor, make him look like Connery, and have HA
> dub in the voice?
> 
> > how about we have Mel Gibson die his hair white (it almost is anyway) and
> >have HIM do Alberich? And if we can't get HA to do a dub, maybe have Mel
> >talk in his native Austrialian accent? That might work. Besides, he's got
> >a cuter...ah...nevermind!

	Oh yes, he definitely has much cuter nevermind ;) <weg> Yummy! 
Anyone here seen Gallipoli (I know I'm spelling that wrong, but it's 
something liek that) It's about the battle of Gallipoli, and he is 
absolutely great in that movie. If I remember correctly, it takes place 
in Austraila, and unfortunately, I think he dies in the end ;'( But that 
last time I saw that movie I thought he would have made a great Skif, but 
of course, he won't now, much too old. 
	Anyone here seen Braveheart? I haven't, but from I've seen in the 
previews, Mel looks like he can pull off a pretty convincing warrior guy, 
so I think he would be good for Alberich. Actually, the other day, 
someone was saying something about Braveheart, and for the first part of 
the conversation, I thought we were talking Care Bears. Oops. Then I 
caught on. You know what else Mel Gibson reminds 
me of....Macbeth. I think he would make a great Macbeth (you'll 
never guess what Sahespeare play we're reading in English now, go ahead 
and try. ;)) 
I'm in a really talkative mood right now, I'll shut up now...

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Nooooooooooo! The worst has come to pass!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960912200543.11805B-100000-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>

On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 Raingcats-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I have to unsubscribe in a couple days, what with
> doing a good job on my homework, I don't have much time to even eat dinner
> let alone read the Misty list! I will still be participating in the Mage-War,
> though I'm not sure  what I could contribute. 
> 
	I feel your pain! :) I have the same problem, but I never did like 
homework, and rarely do it, so I just tend to ignore and hope it goes 
away. Sigh. It never does of course. I just don't have the will power to 
unsubscribe, but I have been cutting back. We'll miss having you around 
here, but I'm glad you don't have to just completely disappear. 

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Becky Anne Christensen <beckyanne-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Florian's Heraldic identity
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960912201302.11805C-100000-+AT+-sybok.iforge.com>

On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Mat the Cat in Green wrote:

> Oh - and someone speculated that Tantris and Dantris were twins.  Well,
> there's really no evidence of that.  The only things alike with them are
> their names.  In fact, I can't even remember a scene with them together
> in it.
	Okay, you lost me here, I know who Tantris is (Kris's Companion, 
probably Tantras as a Herald) But who is Dantris? I don't ever re call 
reading anything about him. Is he in SR? 

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