MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 839

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: First Misty/virii/
	by "Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda" <Ailsa.nhaWinifreyda-+AT+-flinders.edu.au>
  2) Cold-drakes
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  3) Life's Flame!
	by Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
  4) Thanks/Beasties
	by "Wendy O'malley" <mal-+AT+-wollongong.starway.net.au>
  5) Braid: Blood Magic/Florian/Monarch's Own/Pern/JAKE!!!/First Misty
	by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
  6) Reply to: A bunch of stuff... <g>
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
  7) Okay.....
	by Morgana <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
  8) Wyrsa/Vladimir
	by Lady Wintersong <ckwok-+AT+-rgs.edu.sg>
  9) SB and the Art-work
	by Robbie Betts <Betts-+AT+-kkinet.kki.jhu.edu>
 10) re: mates/SB stauration
	by dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl
 11) Re: introductory greetings to all
	by ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
 12) Re: SB Spoilers!!!! 
	by ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
 13) Re: first Misty
	by ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
 14) Re: SB and the Art-work
	by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
 15) Re: First Misty/Microsoft/SB
	by Ken Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 16) Newbie here... me!
	by kaychang-+AT+-eden.com (Terra)
 17) Re: SB Spoilers!!!! 
	by "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>
 18) Re: Okay.....
	by ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
 19) Re: Braid: Blood Magic/Florian/Monarch's Own/Pern/JAKE!!!/First Misty
	by ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
 20) Re: SB Spoilers!!!!
	by nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
 21) Okay..... (fwd)
	by Morgana <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
 22) Re: Serrated/SB spoiler/talia
	by jmacjm19-+AT+-vcomm.net (gar&julie mclaughlin)
 23) Newbie here.
	by Alanna P Hwang <aph200-+AT+-is5.NYU.EDU>
 24) CFOS/first Misty/urban fantasy/
	by Khenta Blaufalk <bhanel-+AT+-aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:47:57 +0930
From: "Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda" <Ailsa.nhaWinifreyda-+AT+-flinders.edu.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: First Misty/virii/
Message-ID: <9609230017.AA67448-+AT+-bilbo.cc.flinders.edu.au>

My first Misty was the Tarma short story in S&S3, 4 and 5 

 I had to order in Arrows of the Queen,  LHM and WoC series. I have a
wonderful book store, they give me 20% off all of my books - could be cos I
spend 20% of my wages there! Storm series have been released in Oz but so
far not SB - so I have ordered it in from USA. Haven't any SERRAted Edge
series and am just getting Bardic series in - so I am way behind some of you
lovely folk! 

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Dear Vrondi - loath though I am to take on my professional persona - may I
suggest Echinacea complex for your dreaded virus - make sure it is the
complex however - in Oz it contains Echinacea + B + C + E + garlic + zinc -
a potent combination - good for what ails you (no pun intended!) You have to
keep taking it however- for about 3 months.

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Jake, rejection by others is difficult, I know, please don't reject
yourself. I always enjoy your postings and if they shows just a part of your
talent - then keep on keeping on - someone will recognise your talent. 

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I'm a bit chuffed at the moment, sent an E-mail to Katherine Kerr and
Charles de Lint and they replied!!! If only Misty had a home page ......
guess I'll have to write to her by snail mail ..........

Wind to thy wings, listsibs

Ailsa n'ha Winifreyda


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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:36:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Cold-drakes
Message-ID: <199609230336.XAA16271-+AT+-orion.webspan.net>

Wintersong wrote:
>Firemist said:
> and there are some things
>>called 'cold-drakes' which I don't know if they have an Earth analog.
>
>I think cold-drakes are like dragons, because in Dragon In Distress (S&S
>XII), Tarma says that the dragon looked like a cold-drake, just that it was
>the wrong colour.

*grins* No no no no NO!  There is an earth analog. Everyone knows a
Cold-Drake is not a DRAGON, but a large male swan!  With lavender eyes and
silver feathers! *grins again* They just have claws instead of webbed feet....

~~

The sun was setting low in the horizon as the peasant farmer made his way
home from working all day in the fields.  Through the meadow on his way
home, he thought he heard an ominous sound..

".. quack .." it whispered, through the meadow from the lake nearby.

"Only a duck!" said the farmer as he hurried home...

"..Quack..." 

Louder the sound came, echoing through the forests like a macabre chant.
The farmer ran faster and faster..

"QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK..."

In a flurry of silver feathers the cold-drake landed in front of the farmer.
The farmer began to panic...

"Oh no!  No crackers in my pockets!  Bright Stars--"

The farmer was cut off as the Cold Drake hypnotized his prey...

~~

*Sheepish look* All right, they aren't.  But they *could* be.


Blessed Be

Jake




        

Jake Adamo (rynath-+AT+-webspan.net) 

Vice-President, SISFFA
Failed^H^H^H^H^H^HAspiring Writer
Mercedes Lackey Information FAQ Administrator
Bard Champion of the Ladies in Green


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:11:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jake <rynath-+AT+-webspan.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Life's Flame!
Message-ID: <199609230411.AAA19714-+AT+-orion.webspan.net>

(doing an impression of Fat Albert) Heyyy heyyyy heyyyyyyyla!

Yes folks, howdie heydiddlie ho!  Jake here, just off a listen of _Life's
Flame..._  and I sayeth unto you, buy it!  Heather Alexander's latest live
album is terrific.  And the songs are all new! (Well, most of them.)  She
did it again... actually MOVED me through music.  The title track is
spectacular.

Just a little preview rant.. sorry if I seem too bouncy!

Blessed be

Jake


Jake Adamo (rynath-+AT+-webspan.net) 

Vice-President, SISFFA
Mercedes Lackey Information FAQ Administrator
Bard Champion of the Ladies in Green



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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:10:46 +0000
From: "Wendy O'malley" <mal-+AT+-wollongong.starway.net.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Thanks/Beasties
Message-ID: <199609230411.OAA10508-+AT+-wollongong.starway.net.au>

Thanks for the information on Mistys' Velgarth menangerie.I thought I'd read 
of Basisilks and Cold Drakes before,but having  only high school 
history and still suffering from pregancy induced "fuzzy brain 
syndrome" Iwasn't sure.
Firemist referred to unicorns, my all time 
favourite creature!I have them every where.Something to do with a 
desperate unforfilled desired to have a horse probably.By the time I 
could afford one I'd discovered BABIES!I think my husband may have 
preferred the horse though.

Thanks also to everyone for their wonderful warm wellcomes!!! 
Hopefully I'll be able to contribute on a regular basis(children 
husband, cat,fish,dogs, parrot,bunny and housework willing.) 

Julie said"...Gee,we should get together with Danya and have our 
conversations during feeding time!May keep us awake and no one else 
is sane enough to be up at that time!" I think it's a great idea 
though I may have problems remembering my password........

ObMisty..(I hope this hasn't come up recently) Does everyone have a 
Misty character that they identify with? Mine would have to be Talia, 
I've always had an affinity with underdogs and never any difficulty 
with feeling empathy for others...(can get my self in BIG trouble 
though...)

Jack's awake and demanding lunch so I'd better go.
Looking forward to reading tonights posts.

Wendy
     

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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:18:36 +0000
From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Braid: Blood Magic/Florian/Monarch's Own/Pern/JAKE!!!/First Misty
Message-ID: <199609230410.XAA24070-+AT+-cdale1.midwest.net>

Lady Windsong:
>>>If a mage uses Blood Magic to Heal (I *know*, theoratically impossible, but
suspend your disbelief), is it *still* considered, hmm, 'evil'?  I'm not
taking any side here, I just wanted to hear your opinions. <g> Well?<<<

I think that if a mage is a Blood Mage, (s)he would not use it to Heal, and
if (s)he did, the person who was Healed might be coerced into becoming an
accomplice or a pretty toy. I think it's unethical (is that the word?) to
use Blood Magic for anything, but if (s)he Heals someone without doing
anything to the body or the mind, it would be all right. But then again,
this might be a case of misguided morals. Anyhow, I seriously doubt that
this would happen. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Firemist wrote:
>>>ObMisty re: Florian. It would be great if we could find meantion of him in
>>>LHM, but don't forget there still some blank spots in Valdemar history where
>>>he could have come from.<<<

*Some*? <sputters, grabs stomach, laughs hysterically> There are so many
"mentioned but never shown" historical moments in Valdemar, right? Do you
think Florian was a Herald Mage from Van's time? From what I read on the
list, it seems that Vanyel recognizes Florian. It's bugging me so much... I
WANT THE BOOK NOW!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tammi Wilder -- WELCOME! It's really fabulous here, and I hope you get to
stay long. And don't be afraid to reply to a message; just avoid one-liners
;>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ailsa Reid wrote:
>>>Just a thought, don't the Shin'a'in shamans use it from time to time? Far as
>>>I 
remember it's a last resort sort of thing, like the sacrifice to get the 
Plains livable after the Mage War (somewhere in Winds set, me-+AT+-work, 
books-+AT+-home), or during a _really_ bad drought. OK so it's their own blood, but 
it's still blood magic...<<<

I thought I read in one of the books that it was okay if it was their own
blood, and it's the same with the White Winds school. And isn't it all
right if it's already there? But here's a hypothetical situation: What if
someone willingly "donates" the blood and pain energy? Or is that possible?
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Esmeralda wrote:
>>>Well, as I recall, didn't Savil's Tayledras mate give her some sort of stone
containing a drop of his blood, which she activated with some of hers in 
order to summon him when she turned up with the young Van? Ain't that blood
magic?<<<

I think so, but it's not really evil, and it doesn't use pain energy. From
what I gather, I think it's something like a homing device or a signal for
the Tayledras to locate Savil and protect her from being killed by the
patrols. So in a manner of speaking, it is Blood Magic, but I do not
believe that it is in definition Blood Magic. AAARRRGGGHHH! Excuse my Data
kick.
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Lady Sophia wrote:
>>>I think Kethry was also only drawing off those who were willing - they
were all angry, they were all focused on a common cause.<<<

I do not believe that it was Blood Magic Keth was using. It is more of the
anger energy she was using. It's powerful, but not as powerful as Blood
Magic, from what I gather. I do, however, believe that if one channels a
*lot* of anger energy, it could be used effectively.
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Who's Idry? Whose Companion is she (assuming the Companion is female)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kaatje wrote:
>>>I would say, given what I've said above, Talia is still Selenay's 
Monarch's Own Herald, and not Daren's.  If Selenay is really doing the 
ruling here (And I think Misty is telling us she does), then Talia would 
be advising Selenay, still.  And I think that Talia is still needed, 
because she offers a more objective opinion than Daren could--since he's 
tied up in Selenay's lifebond and all.  He'd be more inclined to advise 
Selenay to do what was good for *her*, rather than what was good for 
Valdemar.  I'm not saying Daren is being selfish or anything, just that 
this is probably where his tendencies would run to.  Talia would be more 
likely to give Selenay a good kick when she needed it.<<<

Lifebonds, IMO, need a bit of help from the outside on what is good for the
overall cause than what's good for each other. But since Daren's a Herald,
wouldn't he be ruling too? Or is this some sort of an alliance marriage,
conveniently initiated by a lifebond?
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Mat wrote:
>>>What's the new Pern book called?  After Dolphins, no way am I buying, but
maybe I'll get it from the library (Yeah, after I finish _Above the Lower
Sky_, SB, MPrice for Kory <g>, Swordspoint, Beauty, etc. :) )<<<

I don't know, but you didn't like Dolphins either? I didn't like it all
that much, and I'm glad I read other Pern books before Dolphins because 1.)
I knew what it was all about, 2.) I didn't totally hate Pern afterwards.
But I fervently hope that it's more up to par to McCaffrey's other works
than Dolphins was.
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Julie wrote:
>>>Is it possible that "Co-Consorts" is for a royal couple that are both born
in Valdemar instead of one from Valdemar and one from else where? Doesnt
necessarily mean both have to be of the royal family. But If thats the case
wouldn't that mean Jisa and Treven were "Co-Consorts"? I do think that
Co-Consorts have equal power. Remember how Shavri wouldn't marry Randale
because she didnt want to rule when he died? I think they call Darren
"Prince-Consort" because he is a prince.(Wonder if he has shining armor?) I
would like to know why they dont call him king though.<<<

And there was that issue of an alliance marriage with Randale. I think that
a king of Valdemar would have to be from Valdemar, and Daren was from
Rethwellan. I really think that if a royal couple was both born in
Valdemar, they could be considered co-consorts, but not in Daren's case. I
think it was more of a convenient "apology marriage," based on the fact
that the two were lifebonded.
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Korendil wrote:
>>>BY ASTERA OF THE STARS AND KERNOS OF THE NORTHERN LIGHTS, I WANT STORM 
BREAKING!!!!!<---<<<

Lord and Lady! I couldn't have said it better myself! I'm waiting for the
SFBC edition to come out, so it'll be a couple more months for me, I think
(rather, I hope). I WANT STORM BREAKING NOW!!! But practical(translated:
stupid) me would probably use up all the money to buy several paperbacks
instead of SB. I can get it for around $11 in SFBC, tho...
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Jake -- You are not a failed writer; it's the publisher's loss. There are
other publishers out there, and from what you write in your posts and what
do with parodies, I believe that you are an exceptional writer. I don't
know how it hurts, but I know it hurts to have something you worked on
really hard rejected. I'm sending you this: {{{{{{{{{JAKE!!!}}}}}}}}} Hope
you feel better. Don't be gone for long...
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Nina wrote:
>>>ObMisty:  um...um...(thinking _very_hard for something coherent) Valdemar is
big on religious tolerance.  If the Tayledras & Shin'a'in follow the
Goddess, and the Karsites pray to Vkandis, do the Valdemarans have one chief
or predominant religion? (lame, I know, but it's not a one-liner).<<<

I think the mainstream religion is Astera of the Stars and Kernos of the
Northern Lights, and the others are spinoffs of that: two consorting
deities. There is a sect of Christian-like monotheism, which is considered
unusual by Valdemaran standards.
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My first Misty was The Oathbound. Lady Phoenix forced it upon me because I
was somewhat bummed over things which I do not wish to discuss at the
moment, and she got me hooked. I started reading LHM during the winter of
my Fresman year, Arrows in the same season, Winds &Storms in the spring,
then the Gryphons. By the Sword came in somewhere after Arrows. Then, in
the intro offer of the SFBC (also initiated by Lady Phoenix), I ordered
Tiger Burning Bright, and the rest is history.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wintershard wrote:
<snip> Albreich with his Book of the One (IIRC).<<<

No, it was Mero. But that's the Christianity-like monotheism I was talking
about earlier.
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About the pink&purple cover of AotQ: I hesitated to give that book to a
friend of mine for his birthday because of the cover. I know it's an
excellent book, but he's never read Misty before, and he was a die-hard
John Grisham fan. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rozanna wrote:
>>>you asked about basilisks, they show up in the Winds series (the second one
IIRC) No unicorns as yet, Valdemar's crest does feature a pegasus, I think
fire-birds are lesser analogs to phoenixes (sp?), and there are some things
called 'cold-drakes' which I don't know if they have an Earth analog.
I'm sure everyone will jump and tell me if I left anything out :)<<<

I think that the equivalent of cold-drakes would be the medieval dragon
sans the firebreathing. What I'm wondering about is: what's the Earth
analog of wyrsa?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kimberella wrote:
>>>*frowns, curious* How do they get it blocked? If the Goddess does something
to them, then its individual cases. If shamans do it... I have NO idea how
they can reduce mage-level ability into mage- ~potential~ ::sigh::<<<

I have no idea, but I thought since they can ease the channels open and
unblock the potential into Gift (can't they? I thought they can), they
could do the opposite.
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And I am done!!!!! Three day's worth of mail... WHEW! That's the
consequence of having to take Chemistry -- superhard tests every other
week. Anywho, I gotta run. Ta-ta.

Love and other illogical emotions,
Summersong, sometimes Spiffy the Cat, currently rotting in a research
institute at the Vulcan Academy of Sciences (first Trek reference in this
post!!!)


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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 15:20:27 -0400
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: Reply to: A bunch of stuff... <g>
Message-ID: <199609230026_MC1-9B4-F315-+AT+-compuserve.com>


One point. You said Misty wrote the time-line - she doesn't. Somebody named
Pat Tobin does the timelines and she should be carried away by wilk Kyrees
(wild kyrees that sing horrible filk songs until victim goes stark staring mad! hence
wilk kyrees :} )

Firemist

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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Morgana <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
To: mailinglist Lackey <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Okay.....
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.91.960922214919.25165C-100000-+AT+-deepthought.armory.com>

Okay, first off. Lady Thessaly! I am the ruling goddess-like person of 
things unseen. And I am briefly popping out to tell you so. :) Second. 
Why is everyone saying Savil's Taydaras mate? I thought they were just 
friends, tnd that Starwind<?> and Moonsong<?> were each other's mates. 
And saych to boot. :) Anyway, time for me to fade back, and concintrate 
on my moving!!! :)

	Morgana, Goddess of Things Unseen
		 Student of the hectic lifestyle
		 And fishy elf...

And in honor of that fabulous book, Bloody bones.....
  **Blood makes noise It's a ringing in my ear And I can't really hear 
you In the thickening of fear I think that you might want to know The 
details and the facts But there's something in my Blood Denies the memory 
of the acts So just forget it Doc. I think it's really Cool that you're 
concerned But we'll have to try again, after the silence has returned, 
cause blood makes noice It's a ringing in my ear Blook makes noise And I 
can't really hear you in the thickening of fear.

Does this remind anyone else of the book? :)


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:52:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Lady Wintersong <ckwok-+AT+-rgs.edu.sg>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Wyrsa/Vladimir
Message-ID: <199609231252.NAA14768-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>

Summersong asked:
 >What I'm wondering about is: what's the Earth
>analog of wyrsa?

Taking a wild guess here...maybe rabid wild dogs?

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Do you think maybe Valdemar came from Vladimir, the Russian name, like
Lenin? (Sorry, I *had* to add that in. Comes from studying too much of the
Russian Revolution. Lenin, Stalin, Troksky......:)

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  Zhai'helleva					& "The best thing a father can
 		   			     	& do for his son is to love his
  Lady Wintersong, Lady In Green 	     	& mother."
  htpp://members.tripod.com/~Wintersong/index	& 	--- Someone
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:25:07 -0400
From: Robbie Betts <Betts-+AT+-kkinet.kki.jhu.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: SB and the Art-work
Message-ID: <s2465f64.016-+AT+-kkinet.kki.jhu.edu>

If you are interested in SB you might try Lambda
Rising Bookstore (Gay-owned/operated, but the one
in Baltimore had SB!!!!! YEAH


I think it looks more like an octopus than a
squid, and it reminds me of Charliss...

and what the H??? is that Vampire skull
thingy??????



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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 96 16:08:58 +0200
From: dbackhau-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: re: mates/SB stauration
Message-ID: <9609231408.AA10072-+AT+-isou10.estec.esa.nl>

Morgana asked;
<snip>
> Second. 
> Why is everyone saying Savil's Taydaras mate? I thought they were just 
> friends, tnd that Starwind<?> and Moonsong<?> were each other's mates. 
> And saych to boot. :) 
<snip>

Well, mate as in "hello me old mate, how'ya doin'?" or, "And this is little
Johnny's best mate Roddy", - y'know - mate, friend, pal, chum (said with
suitable Rowan Atkinson emphasis), that sort of mate. I accept it's a touch
dated these days, then again the aussies use it, don't they? Along with
cobber, ;>

Well, seeing as how I'm going to be my usual patient self, and wait for the
ordinary paperback of SB to come out, I shall no doubt know the entire story
before I buy. I *know* the "I've just read SB and it's ...." brigade is
growing daily, but I remember from when WG, and then SG came out - there
were days when the entire mailing list output was about something I hadn't read 
(and still haven't in the case of SG - you lot put me totally off it). So, try 
to keep the odd reference to something else coming, puhleeese. I don't mind the
spoilers, doesn't stop me reading/enjoying when the time comes, but it's no
fun if you can't join in.

I shall even try to read an ML, to come up with something useful to write
about, 

ciao ciao,
Esmeralda 

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:39:25 -0400
From: ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: introductory greetings to all
Message-ID: <960923103924_527996899-+AT+-emout05.mail.aol.com>

On Sun. 9-22-96 Cennydd wrote:

> I just got through reading "Bloody Bones" and am not in the mood to be nice
to Misty's Di books. <

Another Laurel Hamilton fan! Cool! I just finished that book myself, and
though I've never read anything of Misty's I didn't like, I gotta admit I
like Laurel's better. BTW, what do you think of the whole Anita-Richard-Jean
Claude-thing? Personally, I keep hoping she'll end up with Jean Claude, but I
doubt that's what Laurel has in mind. But, hey, maybe I'm just weird that
way. Oh, yeah, and I'm a newbie, so advance apologies to everyone for any
mistakes.

Shadowjaz

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:39:27 -0400
From: ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: SB Spoilers!!!! 
Message-ID: <960923103926_527996918-+AT+-emout10.mail.aol.com>

About the Empire stuff, especially in the first book, I too was frustrated to
the point of screaming, but I couldn't bring myself to skim it (afraid I
might miss somethin' important). SB was the least annoying, the action moved
fast enough not to bore me too much, but still I really could care less about
Melles and Charliss, I was much more interested in the Tower Group. BTW, is
anyone else upset about what happened to Firesong at the end? Also, in the
second book, there was a lot of stuff about Firesong wanting a lifemate, what
happened to that? I could have sworn Misty was goin' somewhere with it.

Shadowjaz

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:39:26 -0400
From: ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: first Misty
Message-ID: <960923103925_527996909-+AT+-emout08.mail.aol.com>

Like so many others my first Misty book was AotQ too, I was 13 and it was
given to me by my brother. I loved it, and have been reading anything of
Misty's I could get my hands on ever since. 

Shadowjaz

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:43:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: SB and the Art-work
Message-ID: <199609231443.AA052329797-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu>

 
> 
> I think it looks more like an octopus than a
> squid, and it reminds me of Charliss...
> 
> and what the H??? is that Vampire skull
> thingy??????
> 
> 
> 
I saw SB on Saturday...I looked at the cover for a good 10 minutes, and I
still couldn't figure it out!  I'm wondering why Karal has a halo, too.  A
for the squid/octpous thingy, you've got me...I have no idea whatsoever. 
Artistic interpretation is one thing, but this seems to be a case of mass
confusion (as you can see, I'm still struggling to be coherent.  It's stats
homework I tell you!)

Anyway, now that one of my friends (and Misty fan) is back at school, I
going to get her to subscribe to the list.  And she thinks getting 253 email
messages over the summer was bad (weg)...

Nina

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:29:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Hyde <kenny-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: First Misty/Microsoft/SB
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.960923111654.15547A-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Sun, 22 Sep 1996 gdjone1-+AT+-pacbell.net wrote:

> > Am I the ONLY one that got hooked by something else?  I first read
> > "Arrows of The Queen."  My best friend was reading it and kept
> > talking about it. It sounded so good I couldn't wait, and there we
> > were sitting in class _both_ reading it with pages standing up in the
> > middle because she was further along than I.   Then we got LHM, and
> > of course, loved it.

I know that I first got hooked by AotQ, but that was mostly because it was
the only novel Misty had written at the time.  Actually, I suppose the
absolute truth would be that I got hooked by the short story in S&SIII
(yes, I have an copy, which I bought when it was first published, and I
think I will follow Rozanna's (?) lead and be buried with it. *grin*).
When I read that she had just had her first novel accepted and it would be
out soon, I kept an eye out and snapped it up, as soon as it hit the
shelves.  Then between my mom and I, we read the poor thing so many times
that it finally started to fall apart, even though we are both very
careful readers.  So I had to go buy another copy of it, and my mom got
her own copy of the trilogy.  I have continued to buy Misty books as they
come out, although I have been slacking off.  I haven't got either Silver
Griffon or Storm Breaking, 'cause I refuse to pay hard back prices for
what Misty has become.

ObMisty: are Misty's Serrated Edge books worth the effort of reading?
They have never looked appealing, but some people on here seem to like
them.  Are they likely to be enjoyable to someone who is not interested in
the '80-'90's counterculture.  To give y'all a hint, my main reaction to
"Reality Bites" was "kewl title...movie blew chunks!"  I don't like
existentialist angst or Generation X stereotypes.  Given that, for those
of you have read the books, should I bother getting them?


Anyway, this is pretty much it for my early week missive.  I might jot off
a note as the spirit moves me.  Take care and

May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit,

Cennydd,

Mage of the Green Silences.

Kenneth Allen Hyde     |  No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife
Univ. of Delaware      |  between the shoulder blades will seriously
Dept. of Linguistics   |  cramp his style  -- Old Jhereg proverb
kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu         |  A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me

**http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html or .../kenny/green.silences.html**


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:34:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: kaychang-+AT+-eden.com (Terra)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Newbie here... me!
Message-ID: <199609231634.LAA17335-+AT+-natashya.eden.com>

Hi everyone, I'm new, as obviously stated... <G>

Just to get me shook down:

I'm twelve years old; I live in Austin, Texas; my birthday's in three weeks=
=20
(hint, cough, hint) I'm part of a lotta mailing lists and newsgroups; I'm=20
crazy; and if you want my full name, it's: "Terra=20
<insert-your-nickname-here> Michelle Chang."

What's going on here? Something I can talk about too? Huh? Huh? Preeeeety=20
pleeeeease? :)

(I'm caught in a perpetual state of hyperactivity. If I start acting funny,=
=20
don't worry. It's normal=97=97for me.)

Terra Chang
Reality Jumper
*~*~*
Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive.
*~*~*
CrystalSkye's Personal Universe!
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:40:43 -0700
From: "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" <legend-+AT+-oxy.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: SB Spoilers!!!! 
Message-ID: <199609231640.JAA05369-+AT+-latimes.com>

At 03:56 PM 9/23/96 +0100, ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com wrote:

>BTW, is
>anyone else upset about what happened to Firesong at the end? 

The only thing that truly upset me about that is that Misty didn't finish
the thread.  If you're going to do something like that to a character people
care about so much, you should at least give us something more than a "Wham,
Bam, Thank you, Ma'am" resolution.  I would much rather Misty had spent her
time playing out that plotline than spending her efforts on Melles and company.

>Also, in the
>second book, there was a lot of stuff about Firesong wanting a lifemate, what
>happened to that? I could have sworn Misty was goin' somewhere with it.

I think she is in the process of doing something with it but just didn't get
where she was heading.  Remember, Silverfox said what he prefered was a
lovemate?  That's what he's found in Firesong.  Firesong will eventually see
the value of that (I don't think he's quite realized the value of what he
has in Silverfox), but I assume that's where the story is headed.

Danya


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:41:09 -0400
From: ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Okay.....
Message-ID: <960923124108_483777553-+AT+-emout02.mail.aol.com>

Morgana,

I would have to say the song definitely does remind me of  " Bloody Bones ",
very appropriate too, BTW. And I actually remember that particular song,
though I can't for the life of me remember who did it. Anybody else know?
Cause this is gonna drive me crazy, but wait a minute . . . wasn't it Suzanne
Vega?

ShadowJaz

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:41:10 -0400
From: ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid: Blood Magic/Florian/Monarch's Own/Pern/JAKE!!!/First Misty
Message-ID: <960923124109_483777561-+AT+-emout04.mail.aol.com>

Jake,

I haven't been on this list very long, but from what I've read you are
definitely not a failed writer. And as a non-published aspiring writer
myself, I sympathize, rejection slips are the pitts. But don't give up, just
be persistant and eventually you'll be published.

ShadowJaz

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:22:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: nme848-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: SB Spoilers!!!!
Message-ID: <199609231722.AA238009341-+AT+-hecky.acns.nwu.edu>

> 
> At 03:56 PM 9/23/96 +0100, ShadowJaz-+AT+-aol.com wrote:
> 
> >BTW, is
> >anyone else upset about what happened to Firesong at the end? 
> 
> The only thing that truly upset me about that is that Misty didn't finish
> the thread.  If you're going to do something like that to a character people
> care about so much, you should at least give us something more than a "Wham,
> Bam, Thank you, Ma'am" resolution.  I would much rather Misty had spent her
> time playing out that plotline than spending her efforts on Melles and company.
>

I agree.  I read (most) of SB in Barnes & Noble this weekend.  I was upset
at what happened to Firesong & Karal, as well as the fact that everything
seemed hastily thrown together at the end.  Ahhhhhh!  I hate being
frustrated at the end of a book!

Nina


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 08:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Morgana <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
To: mailinglist Lackey <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Okay..... (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.91.960923082331.14701E-100000-+AT+-deepthought.armory.com>

Okay, let's try this again. :)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Morgana <morgana-+AT+-armory.com>
To: mailinglist Lackey <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: Okay.....

Okay, first off. Lady Thessaly! I am the ruling goddess-like person of 
things unseen. And I am briefly popping out to tell you so. :) Second. 
Why is everyone saying Savil's Taydaras mate? I thought they were just 
friends, tnd that Starwind<?> and Moonsong<?> were each other's mates. 
And saych to boot. :) Anyway, time for me to fade back, and concintrate 
on my moving!!! :)

	Morgana, Goddess of Things Unseen
		 Student of the hectic lifestyle
		 And fishy elf...

And in honor of that fabulous book, Bloody bones.....
  **Blood makes noise It's a ringing in my ear And I can't really hear 
you In the thickening of fear I think that you might want to know The 
details and the facts But there's something in my Blood Denies the memory 
of the acts So just forget it Doc. I think it's really Cool that you're 
concerned But we'll have to try again, after the silence has returned, 
cause blood makes noice It's a ringing in my ear Blook makes noise And I 
can't really hear you in the thickening of fear.

Does this remind anyone else of the book? :)



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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:23:02 -0400
From: jmacjm19-+AT+-vcomm.net (gar&julie mclaughlin)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Serrated/SB spoiler/talia
Message-ID: <v01530500ae6c38eface1-+AT+-[204.253.92.113]>

Cennydd wrote:

 are Misty's Serrated Edge books worth the effort of reading?
>They have never looked appealing, but some people on here seem to like
>them.  Are they likely to be enjoyable to someone who is not interested in
>the '80-'90's counterculture.  To give y'all a hint, my main reaction to
>"Reality Bites" was "kewl title...movie blew chunks!"  I don't like
>existentialist angst or Generation X stereotypes.  Given that, for those
>of you have read the books, should I bother getting them?
>
>
I thought they were intresting, but sometimes a bit difficult to read. They
reminded me of something to give to someone about to runaway from home to
change their mind. I cant really say there is any Gen X stuff, or not much
anyway. The things she talks about are a little unsettling. There was one I
read half way and put down because she DID do a great job of descibing the
situation, and it hit a bit close to the bone for me. But other than that,
I'd say they're at least worth checking out of the library. I liked Knight
of Ghost and Shadows much better, which ties in to Serrrated Edge.
--------------------------------------------------------
Wendy wrote:

 Does everyone have a Misty character that they identify with? Mine would
have to be Talia, I've always had an affinity with underdogs and never any
difficulty
>with feeling empathy for others...(can get my self in BIG trouble
>though...)
>
Wendy, I identify with Talia too! Right down to her family situation! I
always thought I had a lot in common with her. I've always been "overly"
compassionate with others, almost like Karal, much to my husbands
annoyance. And your right, I certainly has its problems.
----------------------------------------
Just wondering, cant anyone come up with something NICE to say about Larry?
Everytime I see something here about him, its usually not. He's not THAT
bad! I mean, should we REALLY be talking about Misty husband this way?
Apparently SHE saw something in him! Maybe we're missing something?


-------------------------SB SPOILER-----------------------------------



Shadowjaz wrote:

>About the Empire stuff, especially in the first book, I too was frustrated to
>the point of screaming, but I couldn't bring myself to skim it (afraid I
>might miss somethin' important). SB was the least annoying, the action moved
>fast enough not to bore me too much, but still I really could care less about
>Melles and Charliss, I was much more interested in the Tower Group. BTW, is
>anyone else upset about what happened to Firesong at the end? Also, in the
>second book, there was a lot of stuff about Firesong wanting a lifemate, what
>happened to that? I could have sworn Misty was goin' somewhere with it.
>
I didnt like the empire stuff either. I did think what happened to Firesong
at the end just didnt quite fit. I did feel sorry for him, but I just think
Misty should have done More on the situation. What had me confused is that
the reason firesong was so desperate to have a lifebond was because he was
sick from the effect of the storms. But when he's at the tower, he seems
fine. Did Silverfox heal him when we weren't looking? I do suppose Firesong
got a lifemate in Silverfox. Did that cure it? I think Misty forgot to look
at her notes when she worte parts of SB.

Ok. thats it.
Take care everyone!
Julie



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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:55:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alanna P Hwang <aph200-+AT+-is5.NYU.EDU>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Newbie here.
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960923135327.22153B-100000-+AT+-is5.NYU.EDU>

Hi.  My name's Alanna.  I'm just writing to agree with Danya.  The ending
kinda left you in suspense and it didn't lead anywhere.  I started reading
Misty's books about an year ago.  I only started on the Internet this
month, so I'm very new at this.  I could use some pointers from whoever
cares to lend a hand or three.  


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:03:55 +0200 (METDST)
From: Khenta Blaufalk <bhanel-+AT+-aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: Misty mail <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>
Subject: CFOS/first Misty/urban fantasy/
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960923181922.38216A-100000-+AT+-aixterm8.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>

The glod of tipis wrote:

>As far as SB goes I kinda fall in between-I'll pick up the SFBC edition
>when it comes out. Of course sometimes that's only about 2 days before 
>the PB edition but at least my covers stick!

Uhm, but's it's the BAEN and maybe TOR books that are suffering from CFOS 
(cover-falling-off-syndrome), not the Daw Books. Most of my Bujold books 
and, IIRC, one of the Tregarde books did fall apart. The DAW books are 
amazing, no matter how often I reread them, they just stay... complete. 
Now if only they would use acid-free paper, 'cause it's starting to 
yellow. 
=======================================================================

Vrondi wrote:

>Am I the ONLY one that got hooked by something else? 

Well, my first Misty was her story in the Darkover anthology. And some 
time later, _Swordsworn_. Does that count?
The first novel by her that I picked up was WoFate. Wow, that was just 3 
years ago! <see what I've become since then... -weg-> 
And what reading all these english books did to my vocabulary... <g>  <weg>
=======================================================================

Cennydd, I just read _Born to Run_ and wasn't overly impressed by it. 
Clearly Young Adult stuff <not that this is supposed to devaluate the 
book>. I didn't much care about that "Man with a mission"-stuff and the 
message for runaway kids. No subtlety at all. And I didn't much care about 
the cars.
But I can recommend _Knight of Ghosts and Shadows_, if you're absolutely 
willing to read some of her urban fantasy stuff. Very good. I'm still 
puzzling my brains over the question of what did Misty write and what 
Ellen. 
======================================================================

A whole on-topic post! Wow. I wonder if I'm getting sick or what...
Well, I'm still alive, getting infuriated by sloppy, unorganized and 
unenthusiastic teachers and slowly getting intimidated by 3 <written> 
exams in sight... and no, the locusts <Carausius morosus, in case anybody 
knows what I'm talking about> didn't get me. I can run faster. <g>



Walk in beauty

Khenta Blaufalk aka Skyfire & Aar
Goddess of Incomplete Vocabulary and Garbled Grammar 
===================================================================
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.
===================================================================






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