MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 925 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Reply to: Serious Braiding Action! by Chris & Sean Talbot 2) Re: One True Way/Learning Languages/Acolytes by Chris & Sean Talbot 3) Shepard/Kero's Ride/archives/prophetess/McCaffrey/pronunciation/new idea by Mat the Cat in Green 4) Re: pronunciations by "JAIME HATHAWAY" 5) Feliz cumpleaņos Ke'leecha (merry fluff) by infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) 6) Brvaes Braidsson Arghs Over Evil Teacher by Korendil 7) Re: pronunciations by Ken Hyde 8) Xanth/Music/Offerings-Apologies by Jaiook Park 9) Re: ObMisty? by BudLor-+AT+-aol.com 10) Kero and Karsite by Jaguar 11) Misty movie by Rose 12) Newbie seeks Deity Affiliation-will work for CD's and guitar strings by Pam Pugh 13) She's heeeeeere..../circles (no! don't delete me! AAAAA!) by Melanie Harris 14) Re: Feliz cumpleaqos Ke'leecha (merry fluff) by jjlatime-+AT+-samford.edu 15) Re: Xanth/Music/Offerings-Apologies by "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" 16) Re: pronunciations by "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:10:03 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Reply to: Serious Braiding Action! Message-ID: <199611070010.TAA05615-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 07:55 PM 11/6/96 GMT, you wrote: > > >On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, firemist wrote: >> >>> someone mentioned that heralds and the like learned languages very quickly >>>because they were picking it up from the minds of those around them. >> >>err - i thought heralds weren't supposed to do that because it would be an >>unethical use of their gift. If your picking the lnaguage out of their minds, >what >>else are you picking up? > >Well, it could be sub-conscious (spelling?). Have you read... er, either Get >Off the Unicorn or Pegasus in Flight by McCaffrey? One of those has a >character who speaks upwards of 7 languages fluently because of such a >sub-whatever utilization of her psi talent. > >love, >deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |I was a brassbound Idealist in those days. >of Procrastination and Holy |If you are an Idealist it does not matter >Custodian of the B-Day List. |what you do or what goes on around you >Confused? Write me! |because it isn't real anyway. > dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA -- Robert Penn Warren > They could also pick them up from companions b/c you never know if they would snoop or not. They could very easily since the general public wouldn't know how to shield them out. In LHM in the last book it said somewhere that rules where sometimes meant to be broken. This was happening in the meshing of powers with Kilchas so I figure there are certain times when heralds do it even though they aren't supposed to. Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:12:11 -0500 From: Chris & Sean Talbot To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: One True Way/Learning Languages/Acolytes Message-ID: <199611070012.TAA06150-+AT+-nemesis.idirect.com> At 08:50 PM 11/6/96 GMT, you wrote: >Lady Sophia stops listening to Gorecki's Symphony No. 2, long enough to >reply.... > >RE: One True Way >I think Misty's characters realize that *they* think their way is the best >- but that it might not be for everyone else. That's why Valdemarans are >*forbidden* to pray for victory in times of way... from a God or Goddess' >perspective it might be best for Valdemar to lose! > >RE: Retiring Heralds >Jadus, Talia's friend in AQueen was retired - he didn't teach, and really >didn't have a "job" per say. > >RE: Learning Languages >The Goddess of Song was required to learn three languages en route, and >discovered that once one builds a *system* for acquiring grammar and >vocabulary (especially if the languages have similar structure) it is not >terribly difficult to learn the second or even the third, having acquired >one. The difficult part is to remember which vocabulary pertains to which >language! > >RE: Acolytes > >Rise, Lady Woodlark! Rie, Lady Kaatje! You are now Acolytes to the High >Priestess of the >Goddess of Music and Song! To you falls the task of assisting the High >Priestess in keeping an eye (and ear) on those bards, maintaining (and >adding to) the Celestial Discography, to answering all calls for >inspiration and musical assistance! To each of you, the Goddess of Music >and Song presents a mother-of-pearl instrument of choice, and a silver >notebook/laptop or CD player (for recording one's songs, and maintaining >the Celestial Discography). > >Bright Blessings, > >Lady Sophia, trilling away >Goddess of Song and Music > > I never really understood that. How can they forbid a person to pray for a victory that would save live maybe or even be for the greater good. How is it possible to stop people from doing that. Heralds generally don't pry so how would they really know unless they are active empaths and don't have good enough shields and are always picking up the emotions of those around them? Aistes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:31:41 -0500 (EST) From: Mat the Cat in Green To: Mercedes Lackey mailing list Subject: Shepard/Kero's Ride/archives/prophetess/McCaffrey/pronunciation/new idea Message-ID: > From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net > Finally, though I feel some affinity with the Tale'edras, I admit that > Heather's comment about "birds and gay men" struck me as amusing also, but > left me a little confused. "Misty lives with she'chorne? I don't remember > that from her biography!" :} Mmm-hmmm. Misty's secretary and sometimes co-writer, Mark Shepard is gay. (and I still can't wait to read his Van story) =========================================================================== > From: Renee Mic Markowicz <04613-+AT+-UDel.Edu> > BTW, does anyone know why Misty didn't record "Kerowyn's Ride"? Ah, but she did. Take a listen to "Magic, Moondust, & Melancholy". It has Leslie Fish as Kethry, and Heather Alexander as Kerowyn. > >honestly can't remember now what was out of the archives, and what is > current on the list, but this is on topic, so no shooting, please. The > > I keep hearing references to the archives. What are they? still slightly newbieish question - Help!> The archives are a library of darn near every digest ever to come from the list. Plus, the FAQs are there. Two ways of getting them. By FTP, the site is ftp.herald.co.uk ,directory /pub/lists/lackey-archives The second is by WWW, the main URL(can't remember the exact archive one) is http://www.herald.co.uk (look for local stuff) > Well. That took care of half of the messages in my Inbox. Hopefully I'll > get to the other half later. Sorry to put you all through all of that. > That's what happens when you join a mailing list and then don't get around > to checking your e-mail for a week. :) Advice - If you can avoid it - > don't do this! It'll help you keep your sanity. X-P Ah, always the good worshipper, eh my Priestess? :) Oh, and this is nothing. You should have seen this summer, when forgetting to check your mail for a *day* caused major backlog. > Oh. Forgot to ask. When did Misty start writing fairy tales? What > fairy tales did she write? I hadn't even heard about them until I saw the > titles here. Is she writing her own fairy tales or rewriting others? The only fairy tale type book she's written so far is _The Fire Rose_. The other three are to be written soon. ========================================================================== > From: "Hth." > Why do we all *know* that Companionscan reincarnate as Heralds? I don' > t *know* that. Have we ever seen a character who was, to our knowledge, > a Companion previous to being a Herald? I realize this is treacherous > ground, this whole Companion issue, but I figure this is allowed, since > I'm asking for textevd that I do not think has been presented thus far. > If so, I don't remember it, so it can't have been more than once. Well, IIRC, the only real texevd is a bit iffy, and in the very end of SB. ============================================================================= > From: Teleute > Mat, Oh God of Procrastination, a humble request: I hereby humbly > petition for the position of Mad Prophetess of Procrastination. [quite wonderful proof of worthiness snipped] Teleute, by My blessing, thou art proclaimed Mad Prophetess of Procrastination! [boom of thunder (or is that the sound of many people running to their computers to write papers? :) ) You know, but I just realized that my whole ecclesiastical organization is made up of women. Odd. ============================================================================== > From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA > > Well, it could be sub-conscious (spelling?). Have you read... er, either Get > Off the Unicorn or Pegasus in Flight by McCaffrey? One of those has a > character who speaks upwards of 7 languages fluently because of such a > sub-whatever utilization of her psi talent. It's Pegasus in Flight. I wish McCaffrey would write a sequel to that instead of another horrid Pern or future Talent novel (don't get me wrong, I love Pern and The Rowan, and Damia, but the recent stuff, especially of the latter is dreck). > Obmisty: I really should think of one, shouldn't I? Wait. I got one. They > said that people with no mage-talent wouldn't notice these storms at all if it > weren't for the tangible results, right? That's kinda like saying a deaf > person wouldn't hear a huge explosion, though... wouldn't some other sense > inform said "normal" person that something big happened? Even a raising of > the hackles? Well, I don't think so. Without mage-gift (though mind-magic might suffice), people just don't have the proper senses to notice. They have *no* senses that can detect purely magical phenomena, such as the magestorms (except when the waves cross). ============================================================================= > From: Rozanna McNeer > pronounciation guide a la Firemist > > Vanyel - VAN- yell me too > Yfandes - Yuh-FAN-dez (rhymes with candies) nope > Elspeth - ELS-peth (as opposed to el-SPETH, which I have heard. ugh) > Talia - TAL-ee-a (the tal part is kinda like 'towel') > Selenay - SEL-uh-nee (I slur the 'nay' into 'nee') Same as I pronounce all 3 > Alberich - al-BEAR-ich (with the 'ich' slightly gutteral like the Dutch 'ch') I say Al-ber-ick > Karal - KAR-rul (with a rolled r in the middle) (that's the dutch > pronounciation) Kind of like Carol, or Kah-rhul. > Natoli - nah-TOL-ee (again, a more dutch-ish pronounciation re: emphasis on > syllables) I used to think Nah-TOL-ee (due to the fact that one of my high school PE teachers had that as her last name). Now I think like the RL name, Natolie (or however you spell it -- like Mindy Cohen from The Facts of Life :) ) > > Moirain - Mwor-a-in Moiraine -- Mwah-rain (from memory of the proncuiation given in the various WoT glossaries) > Nynaeve - NIN - ave (as in the end of 'behave') Nyneave -- Neye-neeve (same source) ======================================================================== You know, I was thinking about what kind of Velgarth story I'd like to see next (hold those coconuts -- not Windrider&Co!). I think it would be nice if Misty did a future Velgarth story. Not a futuristic story, just one that takes place a hundred or two years later, sort of like LHM and Arrows (etc). Much as I like the current characters, it'd be interesting to have some totally new ones. Mat Cat Person, Champion in Green, |"Won't you come, join, dance in the Adept, God of Procrastination | circle? The voices will make your Heathen #???, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | heart yearn. To please come, join, mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | dance in the circle, but know that http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ | you'll never return." -- HA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:01:36 CST From: "JAIME HATHAWAY" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: pronunciations Message-ID: <3899F5710B-+AT+-future.judson.edu> I pronounce Talia and Alberich differently, as TAL-ya (as in Talia Shire, the "wife" of Sylvester Stallone in the Rocky Movies) and I place the accent on the first syllable: AL-ber-ich (ich being the same as sandw"ich"). Yfandes, though, I've always had a tough time with, even to the point of it distracting me while I was reading (must be the grammarian in me). I've heard the "Y" pronounced as a short "I", like Indian, or as a regular "Y" sound, like yes. So: Y-fan-des....and I still haven't decided which I like better. The last syllable I pronounce as "deez". Again, I've heard others pronounce it as "dess" Oh, well, I suppose I'll figure it out someday. Jacquelle Oh, very clever, Worf. Eat any good books lately? --Q ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 22:09 EST From: infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Feliz cumpleaņos Ke'leecha (merry fluff) Message-ID: Happy birthday Ke'leecha! I am new to the list, so I am not sure whether I will come up with a suitable present. How about this? A pocket sized magical box that will always provide a frosted Diet Coke and the solution to your Calculus tests. ObMisty: Weeeell, I should borrow that wonderful memory leash of Firemist's. What about this? (If it's already come out please don't shoot; last night I payed homage to our revered God of Procrastination and stayed up until 5 A.M., and got up again at 7 A.M.). In Oathbreakers Waarrl (sp?) tells Tarma that he would enjoy going with her when the Stareyed calls her. Thereafter we know that Tarma is a leshy'ae Kal'enedral but what about the kyree? Any thoughts? Wind to thy wings, Ele P.S. If anyone wants to practice Spanish and is interested in the SouthAmerican variation, you are welcome to email me (I can even tell you the differences between Argentinian and Uruguayan ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 20:50:57 -0500 From: Korendil To: Misty List Subject: Brvaes Braidsson Arghs Over Evil Teacher Message-ID: <9611070156.AA15544-+AT+-raptor.icubed.net> > Perhaps the >God Of All Things Nocturnal would be advised to do the same, and write >exclusively at night, at least where it concerns touchy subjects anyway. Hmm...once again, my Priestess, thy knowledge is enlightening. I shall take thy ideas to heart in the future. >As to music, I listen to almost everything-- heavy metal, rock, alternative, >pop, dance, a little rap, a little country, celtic music, and world music. Blah...pop? dance? rap? country? yee-uch >Xanth, well I *used* to like it, read some of those when I was 10-14. Don't >know if I'd still like it if I tried it now. And, by way of warning, many, >many, many folks here on the list do not, I repeat, do Not like Piers >Anthony. I advise you to be ready to duck, dodge, and/or hide, as you might >come under attack via homing cocanuts, and other such missiles . /me simply nods in agreement and readies coconut catapults Just In Case;P >I wouldn't say that fantasy grew out of science fiction. Tales of the >mythic, the heroic, the magical, and the otherworldly are pretty much as >old as humankind. Eeek. I knew I meant to say somethign slightly different: the modern fantasy field grew out of sci-fi. >it's implied, at least, that Firesong wasn't always >so intent on settling down ASAP. actually, I think it's more than implied..in..Srising, prolly, I think firesong was thinking to himself about that very fact... >Hail!! Oh Goddess of crappy weather! You sure are active in Denmark at >the moment. As was she in Tampa this morning. NIce gray monotonous sky..sigh...'twas beautiful, while it lasted.. >err - i thought heralds weren't supposed to do that because it would be an >unethical use of their gift. If your picking the lnaguage out of their >minds, what >else are you picking up? I think it's more of an incidental thing...natural mind-leaks and such... > As for Jordan characters, is it >"More-rain" and "Nie-neev"? That's probably not right, but it's how I've >been pronouncing them. Then again I even had a problem with Perrin. It's mwahrain according to the glossary....I forget for Nyn, but I think it's something like nie-na-neve... >It seems to me >that we should have seen at least one scene where someone was going >over the basics of a new language. Ah...but then misty would hafta create a language! And as Kenneth might tell you, she isn't at ALL good at it. I say she hires Cennydd to make some for her;P >Vanyel - VAN- yell k...tho I think, as we decided last..winter?...when you're talking about him a la the lores scene in Mpromise, it's VAHN-yell...and I find I slur the yell to a yull.. >Yfandes - Yuh-FAN-dez (rhymes with candies) Ee-FAN-dess >Elspeth - ELS-peth (as opposed to el-SPETH, which I have heard. ugh) EL-speth >Talia - TAL-ee-a (the tal part is kinda like 'towel') I find I slur this to TAL-yah >Selenay - SEL-uh-nee (I slur the 'nay' into 'nee') Hmm..never done that slur.. >Alberich - al-BEAR-ich (with the 'ich' slightly gutteral like the Dutch 'ch') AL-berr-ick >Karal - KAR-rul (with a rolled r in the middle) (that's the dutch >pronounciation) KAR-ahl >Natoli - nah-TOL-ee (again, a more dutch-ish pronounciation re: emphasis on > syllables) ah. one we agree on;> >with regard to speed of learning languages -- it seems to be an accepted >fact that children will learn foreign languages faster than adults, but the >ability plateaus or goes downhill at around 13. Oh, wonderful...just when I start french..sigh...at least my ability doesn't seem to have too far down yet...considering I took a much accelrated(3 weeks) course for French 1 without any hangups.. >Kory, really, is this the place to be quoting such things? I thought this >was a >family channel... :D Gods..this is as bad as my "How did Kris get the maiden's hope?" isn't it? sigh...It's a GOOD QUOTE though, so too bad Senator Exxon;P >She should >have put everyone of them under Truth Spell and then they would find >out all the other conspiricies and who else was involved! Hmm..I thought they DID, didn't they? except some decided to resign and not take it, right? >If Ma'ar >exploded in Lake Evendim shouldn't the fish be big, mean, and nasty >three eyed, blinky-type fish? Well...the fisherman people that Sherrill came from WERE tough..and maybe they;re big, mean, nasty three eyed, blinky-type fish who taste good? >> One more question, well two, What types of music do all you people out there >> like(Go Alanis!)? and does anyone here like Xanth? To answer in reverse, no, we do not like Xanth.Xanth is evil, very very evil. Xanth is bad. bad bad bad bad bad--okay, I'll stop...um..I like lotsa stuff: NIN/Stabbing Westward (I'm grouping stuff by closeness to save space) Live Led Zep Filk Enya Rush Celtic Rock Everclear Les Miserables;P >Yes, that was and this still is deniz. Macs are NOT True Computers I'll >have >you know! OK. I won't go into this. I WON'T. >And I use Spry. Oh, well. Maybe when I get out of college and >have to destroy my Spry Internet Office (four years, so I think ahead!) I'll >get Claris. Noooo...claris is an email client. PPP. not an isp... >Oh, she's working on them right now. One's with Snow White and Kali, and >the >other is the Firebird (a Russian folktale you might know from the ballet). >Other's are more knowledgable than I.) She's also doing another, plus Swan Lake which you WILL Know from the ballet, and the Queen Liz the witch thingy... >Ah, always the good worshipper, eh my Priestess? :) Oh, and this is >nothing. You should have seen this summer, when forgetting to check >your mail for a *day* caused major backlog. But even this summer wasn't anything compared to last year...back then forgetting to check you mail for 12 hours caused major backlog;> Braiding has helped a lot, tho...heh. I remember my aol days, when I checked my mail once a week...took me around 5 hours to answer all my misty mail...offline, of course;> >You know, but I just realized that my whole ecclesiastical organization >is made up of women. Odd. Blah. I'd join if I didn't have prior commitments. Having gods worshipping others isn't a good thing to promote unless you're a Christain Missionary in unconverted territory;> hmm..reminds me..I hafta write a report for science tonight... >Mat >Cat Person, Champion in Green, |"Won't you come, join, dance in the >Adept, God of Procrastination | circle? The voices will make your >Heathen #???, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | heart yearn. To please come, join, >mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | dance in the circle, but know that >http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ | you'll never return." -- HA AHEM! HA did NOT write that! It's a traditional! On almost every bayfilk tape! wait...maybe I should check my little jacket thingy..brb..balh..can't find any.. BTW, Ken...for all your work and mine (formatting what you said to make it look nice and editing it slightly to tone it down a bit), she still doesn't believe me. But now she's saying that she does NOT Have to offer evidence that she's write and will NOT argue the point. NOw, I think, I'm more angry over the fact that here's an *English* _teacher_, who *refuses* to _learn_ more about *ENGLISH!* The language she TEACHES! It's sad...in a way..hmm..maybe I'll just put it in my short story in the spring and ask her to politely check to make sure I used it correctly.. -+AT+-LIDNEROK___________/ KORENDIL-+AT+-ICUBED.NET \_____________KORENDIL-+AT+- I|Korendil, Knight of Elfhame Sun-Descending, Squire of the High|I C|Court, Magus Minor, One In Black, Firstborn Child of Danaan, |C U|God of All Things Nocturnal, Ailurophile, and #Macintosh Op. |U B|______________________________________________________________|B E|"This was a providential oppurtunity to eat one more apple |E D| turnover before embarking on the unknown. Gavroche stopped, |D .| fumbled in his trousers, felt in his fob, turned out his |. N| pockets, found nothing in them, not a sou, and began to cry, |N E|'Help!' It is hard to just miss out on the ultimate cake." |E T| --Victor Hugo's _Les Miserables_ |T -+AT+-__________________/ KORENDIL-+AT+-ICUBED.NET \_____________________-+AT+- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:27:03 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Hyde To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: pronunciations Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote: > pronounciation guide a la Firemist Here is my take on things (a la me): Key: a = the "a" in "father" A = the "a" in "cat" -+AT+- = the "a" in "above" (the schwa) e = the "a" in "date" E = the "e" in "bet" i = the "ee" in "beet" I = the "i" in "bit" j = the "y" in "yes" ' = primary stress th= the "th" in "thin" S = the "sh" in "she" > Vanyel - VAN- yell ['vAn.j-+AT+-l] (The "A" is also nasalized) > Yfandes - Yuh-FAN-dez [I.'fAn.d-+AT+-s] (as with Vanyel, the "A" is nasal) > Elspeth - ELS-peth ['El.sp-+AT+-th] > Talia - TAL-ee-a ['tal.j-+AT+-] > Selenay - SEL-uh-nee ['sEl.-+AT+-.ne] > Alberich - al-BEAR-ich ['Al.b-+AT+-.rIk] (the "k" is slightly sprirantized to sound like the German "ch" > Karal - KAR-rul ['kar.-+AT+-l] > Natoli - nah-TOL-ee [n-+AT+-.'ta.li] > Moirain - Mwor-a-in [mwa.'rEn] (the "E" is NOT nasalized) > Nynaeve - NIN - ave [ni.'nEv] > Lythande - LITH-un-dee [li.'thad] (the "a" is nasalized as in French) (btw, this is not Misty's character. MZB created and wrote most of the Lythande stories.) Other names: Shin'a'in = ['Sin.?a.?in] Tarma = ['tar.m-+AT+-] Kethry = ['kEth.ri] Kethryveris = ['kEth.r-+AT+-.vE.r-+AT+-s] (secondary stress on "vE") Solaris = [s-+AT+-.'la.r-+AT+-s] Skandranon = ['skAn.dr-+AT+-.nan] Tylendel = ['taj.lEn.d-+AT+-l] (the "aj" is the sound in "eye") Savil = ['sA.v-+AT+-l] Shavri = ['SA.vri] I think I'll stop now. I am scaring myself. =) Anyway, I seem to have lost the birthday warning, so I will just say that my Godhead knows who you are, and you all will recieve a really, REALLY cool for a future life (it will probably involve a sunny day, a park, birds twittering in the azaleas, and a troop of high-kicking squirrel Rockettes in a Ziegfield-style production number. *grin*). May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me **http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html or .../kenny/green.silences.html** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:28:06 +1000 From: Jaiook Park To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Xanth/Music/Offerings-Apologies Message-ID: <199611070228.MAA05418-+AT+-gateway.mgs.schnet.edu.au> Thanks to all you's that said either they liked Xanth/Pier Anthony or warned me never to speak his name again. I'd like to procliam that I absolutely Loved Xanth, though I liked the Incarnations of Immortality more. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you said, "Go Alanis!" did you mean Alanis Morisette as she is today or Alanis! of pop fame in Canada?(actually, not that many people in the U.S. know that she was Alanis!) I meant Alanis Morissette, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say Alanis! so could you maybe explain??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Oh, sure... Raise up my hopes of getting something, then dash it away like >it's nothing. No, no. I don't mind. Really, I was planning on moping for >the day anyway, so... Okay, tell you what, Wintershard, I'll give you this magic staff of power that lets you jump to any fast-food joint in a 50-mile radius. Call it a....peace offering. And apolgies to Ke'leecha again for mistakingly giving the gift to Wintershard, However worthy, so here's Chocolate covered, Biscuit sheep-skin to back up my apologies. SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY ~~~~~~~~~~~ Here goes, my first Obmisty... Obmisty: If you wanted a movie of one of Misty's book to come out, which book would it be? And I KNOW most of the poepl will say one of the LHM series, but that's a chance you take :) Jaiook "You mean I put down my sword, you put down your rock and we try and kill each other like civilised people?" Wesly, Princess Bride. Jpark-+AT+-mgs.schnet.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:01:09 -0500 From: BudLor-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: ObMisty? Message-ID: <961106220108_1781389690-+AT+-emout20.mail.aol.com> Newbie here----I''ve been reading this for over a week now--found site, looked interesting, signed up. I need to find my way back to the archives and read more before I join in reguarly--fun reading, tho. (I have all, I think, of Misty's books.) Define "ObMisty", please--I do see what you're doing--the word needs clarification, please and thank you. All these sheep references is another item rolling around my head, also. Again, thanks. Lorraine (BudLor-+AT+-aol) "But I'm not dead yet!" MP/Holy Grail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:08:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jaguar To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Kero and Karsite Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote: > stray thought - I wonder if Kero ever did learn Karsite > I think she did, sort of. Remember, there's a scene in SW with Kero training Karal, and apparently she has atrocious grammer. Blessed be, Jaguar Leader of the Cat People "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Goddess of Large Hunter Cats Just what you want to be...you will be in the end Chronicler of the Mage Wars And I love you...." Lady in Green --Moody Blues "Nights in White Satin" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 22:10:00 -0500 From: Rose To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Misty movie Message-ID: <32815308.11E2-+AT+-ctol.net> If I had to pick a movie to be made, it would not have anything to do with companions. Imagine what hollywood would do to pure white spiritual horses! They'd probably put some sort of aura around them so you could never see them straight, and they would have to make the mindspeech g*d-awfully sappy. Anything that is cool the more you can imagine it, hollywood just feels it has to be made sappy. Ohh, imagine the awards it would win for use of special effects. Or hollywood-style Tayledras costumes or hertesi-men! Think of a new trend in fashion of Tayledras mage robes and people everywhere trading feathers with gusto. But, if I had to choose, I'd like to see V&H. In this package you get the Stareyed for the G*d, Thralkarsh for the mandatory deamon, all the special effects for Keth's magic and some really neat swordwork. Also, the honor of some sappy mindspeach with Warrl. Dyana ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 22:12:05 -0800 From: Pam Pugh To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Newbie seeks Deity Affiliation-will work for CD's and guitar strings Message-ID: <32817DB5.6240-+AT+-inter-linc.com> Hey everbody, you don't know me, but I've been lurking on the list for about a month. But I still don't knkow nothing about nothing, so...go easy on me, okay? Really, I have only a few things to say: that I do belive that I was meant for Godhood, but, well, aside from the buisness w/ Naming, and all that stuff, I don't have nearly enough experience in anything. Therefore, I would like to petition The Goddess Of Music And Song (whose Name I have thoughtlessly forgotten-my apologies) to take me on as an Understudy in whatever field you feel I could serve You. My Talents (I think) lie in alt. music. I beg You, please favor me with this status. Okay, I'm gonna shut up now. Bye. Jeff P. (hoping to be Chief Bard of alt. music) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:36:24 +1000 From: Melanie Harris To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: She's heeeeeere..../circles (no! don't delete me! AAAAA!) Message-ID: <327D64B8.7877-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! I MADE IT!!!!!!!!! *ahem!* Sorry. I tend to react like that when I've just finished a Herculean task... Right! Introductions! My name is Melanie (no relation to the listmistress, but she agrees that I have a Really Cool Name ) and - in case anyone missed it - I'm new on da list. *Tadah!* I'll probably usually appear on the list as Mel the Redcap, 'cause I sorta need a persona to make it easy for everyone to distinguish me from Our Illustrious Listmistress and the Redcap's pushier than most of the other weirdos inhabiting my head. As an indication of just how weird it gets in here, I'm on the Magewar list as Pakrat. I'm owned by two cats, and my housemate's cat is also trying to get a share of me. The "I Made It" rejoicing at the beginning of this message is due to the fact that I have just finished reading EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ARCHIVES!!!!! ALL NINE HUNDRED AND HOWEVER MANY THERE ARE NOW!!!!! This means that I understand the usual acronyms and also know all about the sheep, how to use snipping and braiding as a fire management strategy, "Magic's Purple Passion" and "The Hitchhiker's Guide to Velgarth", not asking The Dreaded Savil/Sayvil Question, and why we should NOT hijack a certain creation - or ANY creation - of Jake's (who I worship, btw. We're Not Worthy). Pppbthththththt to anyone who was hoping for an easy target! (Now watch while everyone tries to get me anyway! ) Heather, are you still collecting personality types? I sent you one earlier, and I came up as ENFP in that test, but I redid it 'cause I was borderline in three of the categories and the second time I was INFP... the really funny thing is that I *wasn't* borderline in the E part before!!!!! Well, it's only three questions different if I'm reading the graph thingy right... and for the Birthday List, my birthday is the tenth of February '73. Hokay. Enough about me. :) <'finally,' they mutter> /\/\/\/\/\ Deniz Srikaya wrote lotsa interesting stuff, most of which I've hacked off and thrown out the window: > - Misty says we have ripple-like magical waves emanating from two centers: > Urtho's tower (Dorisha Plains) and Ma'ar's castle (Lake Evendim). She says > that the areas most severely impacted by these waves (i.e. where they > combine to create the most devastation) is confined to two points somewhere > in between these two centers, and paints a mental picture of two > interlocked circles to demonstrate. Misty never said *two* points - she had lotsandlots of concentric circles, "drawn" with their centres at the Plains and Lake Evendim, intersecting at lotsandlots of different points in a pattern - in Storm Warning Karal went up in a basket carried by Treyvan and Hydona and could see heaps of spots where the land had been changed, laid out in a pattern, and they later found out that those spots were at the intersection points. > - I (and some others), say that Misty's math, physics, and geometry are > off, and that the areas where these waves will combine in such a manner are > quite a bit more than two points (I claim it's a bunch of hyperbolas, and > nobody has tried to gainsay me on that, yet), because we must take into > account that these waves are forever expanding outward, and that there is > more than one "ripple." Which is what Misty actally said. So she wasn't wrong! Hallelujah! Our Worshipful Author was correct! > Why the waves aren't staying still:[munch several good reasons] > - do I need to keep going? Um, no... ;) Lessee now... somebody said that the waves had to be moving (inwards, 'cause the "explosion" is reversing itself in this "echo" of the original kabooom) and so the intersection points had to be moving, so there should be long swathes of magically-messed-up land instead of patches. Right, yup, good point. The impression I got from the books, though, is that the mage-storms were... um... kind of like "freeze-frames" of points in the process, bursting through from the past and temporarily overlaying current reality. Because you only get exposed for an instant, even though the waves *are* moving it *seems* like they aren't. Like watching someone walking across a field at night during a lightning storm - you can only see them in the instants when the lightning is flashing, so you get several "snapshots" of them at point A, point B etc, and never see them moving *between* those points. Time to shut up now; lunch is over *sniff* Mel the Redcap Redcap of the Pink Wand (I ain't no lady!) wanting to be named Goddess of the Supernaturally Scary Socks when Milady Thessaly reappears - just ask anyone on the Lois McMaster Bujold list why! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:29:12 -0600 From: jjlatime-+AT+-samford.edu To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Feliz cumpleaqos Ke'leecha (merry fluff) Message-ID: I wish someone would give me a magical box that gave me Diet Cokes and solutions to Calculus problems! I'm diabetic, so I have to have diet drinks, and I'm right at the point in my college Calculus 2 class where my next test will either pass or fail me for the term! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- ForeverPsi (a.k.a. John Latimer, a mild-mannered college student who likes to waste time) Master of Emotions Email: jjlatime-+AT+-mailbox.samford.edu "It isn't that life is so short, it's that death is so long." -- Unknown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:30:49 -0800 From: "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Xanth/Music/Offerings-Apologies Message-ID: <199611070330.TAA29396-+AT+-latimes.com> At 02:46 AM 11/7/96 GMT, Jaiook Park wrote: >Obmisty: If you wanted a movie of one of Misty's book to come out, which >book would it be? And I KNOW most of the poepl will say one of the LHM >series, but that's a chance you take :) > Want it to be? _Magic's Pawn_ Think has a prayer of getting made? _Black Gryphon_ if Spielberg or Lucas is directing and ILM doing the effects ;->. Danya ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:27:48 -0800 From: "Linda Malcor, Ph.D" To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: pronunciations Message-ID: <199611070327.TAA29355-+AT+-latimes.com> At 02:42 AM 11/7/96 GMT, Ken Hyde wrote: >On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Rozanna McNeer wrote: > >> pronounciation guide a la Firemist >Here is my take on things (a la me): > >Key: a = the "a" in "father" > A = the "a" in "cat" > -+AT+- = the "a" in "above" (the schwa) > e = the "a" in "date" > E = the "e" in "bet" > i = the "ee" in "beet" > I = the "i" in "bit" > j = the "y" in "yes" > ' = primary stress > th= the "th" in "thin" > S = the "sh" in "she" > >> Vanyel - VAN- yell > ['vAn.j-+AT+-l] (The "A" is also nasalized) I agree--but we have the eternally pesky problem that Misty apparently doesn't! >> Yfandes - Yuh-FAN-dez > [I.'fAn.d-+AT+-s] (as with Vanyel, the "A" is nasal) I agree with the second pronunciation, except I would have given the "y" a long "ee" sound as in the "y" in "Danny." >> Elspeth - ELS-peth > ['El.sp-+AT+-th] The pronunciation in brackets is the traditional one, and the one I went with. >> Talia - TAL-ee-a > ['tal.j-+AT+-] Ditto for this one on the pronunciation in the brackets. >> Selenay - SEL-uh-nee > ['sEl.-+AT+-.ne] And again, I agree with the pronunciation in the brackets (modeling off biblical names like Selene and Salome). >> Natoli - nah-TOL-ee > [n-+AT+-.'ta.li] The brackets again. >> Moirain - Mwor-a-in > [mwa.'rEn] (the "E" is NOT nasalized) Hmm. I would have made that the lowercase "e" for the pronunciation in the brackets, but otherwise that is the one I use. >> Nynaeve - NIN - ave > [ni.'nEv] Brackets again. >Kethryveris = ['kEth.r-+AT+-.vE.r-+AT+-s] (secondary stress on "vE") I would have put the "vE" with the "r": 'kEth.r-+AT+-.vEr.-+AT+-s >Solaris = [s-+AT+-.'la.r-+AT+-s] Same here: s-+AT+-.'lar.-+AT+-s Danya ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 925 *********************************