MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 940 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Karma (fwd) and other stuff by Ken Hyde 2) Anti-female sentiments (no, not in this post) by "Hth." 3) Gobledygook: Piers Anthony (aiee!)/Hth/Hair/Women by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA 4) by Jaiook Park 5) b-days by Jaiook Park 6) Mac-IBM fluf/Sitcoms./more stuf by Jaiook Park 7) Braid: Songs/DT/Kris as blonde/Billy by myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) 8) Jake's book by Jaiook Park 9) Mac/IBM debate... by "John C. Latimer III" 10) Re: Velgarth technology/EQ fluff/frat boys/Chosen by Paradox 11) Re: Priestess by Paradox 12) Re: Braid: Talia/Quote/DT movie/FireBird/favmusic/MAC/songs/country by DawnRain 13) Re: Solid Fluff, no redeming value. by DawnRain 14) Re: Anthony/Priestess/visualizing/images/Herald?/Little fall by Paradox 15) Re: non-misty women/visit Valdemar/hair color by DawnRain 16) Re: hair color by DawnRain 17) SCA-fluff by Jefferson or Rain 18) Re: Braid: Songs/DT/Kris as blonde/Billy by DawnRain 19) Re: non-misty women/visit Valdemar/hair color by Paradox 20) Re: Anthony/Priestess/visualizing/images/Herald?/Little fall by Kat 21) Re: by Paradox 22) Braid: Mostly fluff: High Priestess/Hair by Lady Windsong ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:55:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Hyde To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Karma (fwd) and other stuff Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Eleonora Scoseria wrote: > P.S. I would like to ask my Lord Cennydd in his capacity of linguist whether > I managed to get the thee/thy/thou thing straight :) I do hope the ability > to use them properly will not become a requisite of office under the God of > Karma :) But of course it is. However, thou hast proven quite adept. Not that this comes as any surprise from someone who speaks Spanish as her native language. After all, "thou" is just the English version of "tu" and has basically the same uses and distribution. BTW, since so many people have expressed interest in this aspect of English, I have decided that for this list, I shall revive "thou" for my own postings. That way, rather than spam the list with grammatical explanations (which are of dubious value for language acquisition), I will, instead be providing real linguistic input with every post. Yey! =) Other stuff: Remembrance Day != Sovvan Night At least in my opinion. I always got the impression that Sovvan was much more related to All-Hallows (otherwise known as The Feast of All Saints or Todos Santos). Perhaps my priestess can help out here? Ele, canst thou tell us if there is a difference between El Dia de Los Muertos and El Dia de Todos Santos in Uruguay and its neighboring countries? This would also fit with Misty's English neo-pagan touches, since All-Hallows corresponds to the Celtic Day of the Dead (the end of the old year). Heather wrote a message with all sorts of wonderful things in it. And one unfortunate thing (her illness). Heather, I sympathize with thee in thy illness. I have just recovered from mine, and I know how blechy they can be. Okay, thou (re)mentioned the question, originally posed by my priestess Kat, as to whether thou wouldst accept being Chosen. My own reaction is decidedly and unequivocally, "NO!" Of course it is unlikely that I would be Chose, but if some poor benighted Companion ever did Choose me, I can say that my response would probably be "Go *away*!" If they insisted, I would explain to them that if they really wanted to stay with me, they would have to put all those silly ideas of glorious destiny, self-sacrifice, and regimentation within the Heraldic Circle out of their skulls. And if he/she objected, I would simply point out that they (and their freinds) were the ones who kept spouting the party line about "no One True Way." =) Sort of "thou hast made thy bed, so lie in it!" (And people thought that Kero was ornery and bloody-minded stubborn; wait'll they get a load of me! ) Thou also mentioned Garth's kafuffle with "We Shall Be Free." That was the song with the verse about "When we're free to love anyone we choose/.../When we all can worship from our own kind of pew/We shall be free." I remember when this song came out, but I don't really remember it being that controversial. Of course, I was living in Tulsa at the time, and it is inconceivable that a Tulsa station would refuse to play Garth for any reason short of out-right Satanism (he is a hometown boy). BTW, Garth was also the singer who came under so much fire in the press and media when he released a music video that depicted domestic battering and a wife shooting her husband in defense: the video for "The Thunder Rolls." He is actually a remarkably socially conscious performer/artist. Anyway, I guess that is it for the time being. May the seas be your solace and the forests a refuge for your spirit, Cennydd, Kenneth Allen Hyde | No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife Univ. of Delaware | between the shoulder blades will seriously Dept. of Linguistics | cramp his style -- Old Jhereg proverb kenny-+AT+-Udel.Edu | A mind is a terrible toy to waste! -- Me **http://www.udel.edu/kenny/ken.html or .../kenny/green.silences.html** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:15:25 CST From: "Hth." To: Subject: Anti-female sentiments (no, not in this post) Message-ID: <11NOV96.25117708.0245.MUSIC-+AT+-ACADEMIC.TRUMAN.EDU> You know, I just don't let myself get too ruffled about that kind of thing anymore. I think it's just one more example of people who know the changes in their world are outside of their control and want to respond to that in the only way the can think of -- making someone else feel bad. Sure, it's possible that they're genuine sociopaths, but it's a lot more likely that they're just engaging in a particularly venomous form of pouting, because they know that they won't have a great many of the unquestioned privileges their fathers and grandfathers had. They'll be competing in the world with women and non-whites, which means they'll have to work harder, and there will, let's face it, be more educated and trained people competing for the same (or even fewer) numbers of great Ivy League grad jobs. They resent being asked to fight for what in previous generations would have been much more easily available to them. A lot of men have a wider view of life, and understand that feminism and civil rights are to their eventual benefit, as well as simply being just, but some, like these, are both selfish and short-sighted, and scared. I think that in some ways the less excitement caused over it, the better. They want to hurt someone, and no doubt they will. But too much protest will only make them feel like they've done something political and cutting-edge. You might try the police. Once they find themselves slapped with a fine and everyone else peaceably going about their business, they'll be seriously wondering why they thought this was such a great idea to begin with. It's important to retain a sense of humor, I think. A couple of years ago on my campus, a few flyers were circulated along the lines of "National Kill a Fag Day," and my friend Clinton got a death threat. We called campus security, and he was under escort for a couple of days, but other than that we tried not to give them campus-wide attention. We had a little party, joked around about setting up some kind of Lesbian Guard, since we apparently were not to be killed. We commiserated with each other, made brownies, Clinton flirted with his police escort. We ended up feeling close to each other, a great deal more worthwhile than some anonymous yutzes, and pretty energized. I have to say that I look back on it as a pretty fond memory. Sure, no one likes being harrassed. But you can't let it be the end of your world. Remember that these people wouldn't be angry if they didn't feel, rightfully so, that the world was no longer created in their image. They feel that their privileges are being threatened, which they are. They are losing, and they know it. (Especially if they're really as anti-intellectual and semi-literate as all that. "Women are stupid"? What are we, seven?) I don't know what the Heralds would do about it, but it seems to me that torture is a little out of proportion. Frankly, I think civil lawsuits are the way to go in most situations. You'd be amazed how sensitive people can become when money is at stake. And there's something inherently absurd about saying, "Be peaceful, compassionate, just, and caring, or the good Heralds will flay the skin from your bones." You foster virtue by demonstrating it, not by forcing people to be virtuous or suffer at the hands of the powerful. That smacks too much of fascism for my tastes (be civic and serve your country, or die like a dog). Hmph. I knew I didn't approve of people digging around in the archives I'm in trouble again over this escapism thread, aren't I? I think there should be some kind of statute of limitations, after which you can't be flamed for something you posted. Well, I wait with bated breath. HTH r618-+AT+-academic.truman.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 00:13:36 -0500 From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Gobledygook: Piers Anthony (aiee!)/Hth/Hair/Women Message-ID: <199611120523.AAA12897-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA> Jake said: >>Last time this line went around, people said that it really wasn't that good, either. Not.. *thinking hard* self-consistent? *shrug* Whatever... I don't want to take the risk. And I ain't reading a seven book series!<< That's ok. You don't have to read a whole series, just the one or two ones that come highly recommended by *some* people on this list. The reason I say this is because right now, you're letting other people think and judge for you, accepting their opinions as your own, and acting on them. In my opinion, that's not peaches. >>Aha! But I have my patented Ring of Fire Resistance (patent pending) right here. So there. :PPPPP << SHARDS!!!!! Foiled again! When will I ever learn? Never use an obvious weapon unless it's so obvious nobody uses it! Well, if I ever do get that offended (doesn't happen unless it's That Time of Month), I'll get you with something you won't think to prepare against. I don't know what, but this way we'll both be surprised! Speaking of which, how come none of Misty's characters suffer from PMS? I mean, we know the Heralds have that powder to control the flow, but they just don't go through bitchy stages. I mean, I know more men who complain of sympathy PMS than women who go through "that time of month." Not as far as I can recollect. `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' Heather, I do envy you, but I refuse to pity you. I do wish you well, though. Smile? `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' Jacquelle: >>You know, I have a theory on why a lot of us see kris with blonde hair. maybe it works, maybe not....<< That sure works for me! Thanks! `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' rainwood said: >>Here's a question: If someone started circulating an anti-woman list like that around the 3 Collegiums, how do you think the individual Heralds and characters in ML's books would deal with the miscreants?<< I'm assuming that it's not a student doing it. Well, I can see the Greens writing a treatise proving exactly why each one of those points is wrong. Reds would probably write a parody, and the Greys? Think of Skiff as a Grey, and you've got ideas. How about Need? She'd probably cast a spell upon them so they could never get *it* up again.... love, deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |But she had the trick of making a little of Procrastination and Holy |island right in the middle of time, and of Custodian of the B-Day List. |your knowing, which is what time does to Confused? Write me! |you. -- Robert Penn Warren dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:21:50 +1000 From: Jaiook Park To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Message-ID: <199611120521.PAA21043-+AT+-gateway.mgs.schnet.edu.au> >One more question, before we actually get into the message: Is there >anyone >out there onlist who can reccommend a good book for learning Gaelic? There's a book out there called "teach yourslef Irish" or irish gaelic, I can't remember, but its really good, though I've forgotten nearly all my Irish Gaelic. Jaiook "You mean I put down my sword, you put down your rock and we try to kill each other like civilised people?" Wesly, Princess Bride. Jpark-+AT+-mgs.schnet.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:26:18 +1000 From: Jaiook Park To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: b-days Message-ID: <199611120526.PAA21094-+AT+-gateway.mgs.schnet.edu.au> WHY DO ALL YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO BE BORN IN NOVEMBER!!! I guess its not your fault, well I'll try and give personalized gifts on thrusday or when I get more time but for now I give you all a magical dead frog charm that gives you the ability to "leap tall buildings in a single bound" and croak a great mating song. (I recommend you don't actually TRY this, I am in no way responisble for any damage I may have caused with my present.) Jaiook "You mean I put down my sword, you put down your rock and we try to kill each other like civilised people?" Wesly, Princess Bride. Jpark-+AT+-mgs.schnet.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:07:55 +1000 From: Jaiook Park To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Mac-IBM fluf/Sitcoms./more stuf Message-ID: <199611120507.PAA20835-+AT+-gateway.mgs.schnet.edu.au> >Hey, I love my MAC! I dont have to remember all those DOS commands, and my >son has a harder time re programming the thing! Mac's catch far fewer virus, >so I don't have a high computer medical bill! I'll pass on the DOS stuff, >give me a MAC any day! I won't even diginify that with a response. If all you Mac users want to ponce around your O/S then its fine with me, just don't try and infiltrate us healthy IBM users with your filth. And I think we should get off the Mac/IBM debate 'cause It will go on 4eva! and also Mac users would lose :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >What has me rolling >on the ground? Third Rock from the Sun. The Simpsons. Mad About You. >Dilbert. The late, great Bloom County. De gustibus non disput-- bloody >heck. I almost had it. The last of my Latin, down the drain. I know what you mean, I mean I hate humour that's really shallow like Seinfeld (sorry all you fans!) but I love stuff that has a good plot like Ned & Stacy, Friends, Partners, Mad About You, 3rd Rock from the Sun, Almost Perfect, The Nanny, Simpsons (though its quite shallow sometimes there are MANY levels of humour in it) and The Naked truth. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >In real life I have a similar problem. I'm >not invisible, but people don't usually notice me. I can walk through >a crowd of my friends and family and most of them will never even >realize that I was there.. Look on the bright side, at least you won't be picked out of a crowd to do one of those surveys that last ages! Well, I do seem to have that problem as well though it doesn't really bother me, stops me from being mugged :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Seriously, the Wheel of Time is a great series, but >there's nowhere to start but the very beginning. (Then you finish the >series and have to wait two years for the next book. I'd just like to say its not as annoying as the Earth's children series, I've been waiting 6 years since Plains of Passage in 1990 to read the fifth book. JEAN M. AUEL HURRY UP!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jaiook "You mean I put down my sword, you put down your rock and we try to kill each other like civilised people?" Wesly, Princess Bride. Jpark-+AT+-mgs.schnet.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:43:00 +0000 From: myktshr-+AT+-ldd.net (miyako hirao) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Braid: Songs/DT/Kris as blonde/Billy Message-ID: <199611120537.XAA02333-+AT+-cdale3.midwest.net> Deniz wrote: >>>Etheridge, eh? How about "This War is Over," for a slo-mo (yes, I just >>>reread JH) shot of Talia and Kris trying to escape Ancar's castle, and Kris shot down and all that and recurring while Talia is depressed?<<< Hmm... There's a thought. How about that scene after the wedding when Talia and Dirk walk into their bedroom and find maiden's hope on the bed -- "Talking to My Angel" by Melissa Etheridge? Another ME -- "I Will Never Be the Same" for the scene where Talia is actually in captivity? Can you tell I'm an Etheridge fan? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kerry wrote: >>>Keep going. The middle bit is a bit slow, but it's necessary to the growth of the character. It's one of the few Misty books (apart from LHM) where the pov character actually overcomes internal obstacles and -grows-. I'd rank it up there vying LHM for best Misty book.<<< Yup. Same here -- except the other DT books weren't as good. Take JH for example -- and I keep saying this over and over -- the way these high school kids talk! THEY GET ON MY ALREADY FRAZZLED NERVES! The book was interesting enough, and I liked that body-snatcher concept of Fay Harper, *but* that talk was distracting. I don't know why I didn't like Burning Water as much as CotN. Maybe it's because there wasn't enough Di content in that book. Now I see why some of y'all can't seem to get into the DT series. Don't get me wrong -- I think they were still good. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kory wrote: >>>I always mess up on what they look like...for example, I always = thought Kris was BLONDE!<< As did I. I kept reading Dirk's description and went "Huh? Isn't Kris the blonde?" I guess it must be the chicken incident that made me thing Kris was the blonde Sorry... But when I think of "handsome and angelic" I automatically think "blonde!". Now, about Dirk -- I always pictured him as disfigured silly putty with facial features and hair. Anybody else think of anything remotely close to it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deniz (or is it Free Bard Woodlark?) wrote: >>>Another song -- "The Fool on the Hill" for Leslac.<<< ROTFLMAO! I swear, I can't see anything more perfect for him. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TINAF, nor is this intended to make anyone vomit. I sincerely declare... I LOVE GARTH BROOKS!!! Ha! You missed! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cen wrote: >>>Er (see Deniz, I can be taught!), Don't you mean BJ got his greedy hands on it? After all, Garth wrote the song. Billy Joel just happened to perform it first.<<< Sorry to tell ya, Cen, but Billy Joel wrote it first 'cuz he writes all material himself for his original studio albums. I looked in the cover booklet for Ropin' the Wind by GB *and* Storm Front by Billy Joel, and the former credited "B. Joel" for writing the song, and in SF, it said that "All songs written by Billy Joel." Wow! Is that my first Textevd? Yes, I love them BOTH! Pthbbbt! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have a query -- what's SCA? I've been hearing this for a while, and I think I've read about it in CotN. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hth wrote: >>>ObMisty #1: I have this theory that Amberdrake is mainly Larry's character, which would explain why he can visualize Amberdrake especially well, and draw Amberdrake especially well (there's more to the theory than that, though). I'm usually fairly indifferent to his art, but I still think he deserves stars in his crown for "Amberdrake Alone," which is one of the most evocative, lovely line drawings I've ever seen. Loved that picture.<<< Hmmm. Never thought of that. But Amberdrake is one of my favorite characters, and that picture is my favorite out of the Gryphon series. And that girl you're thinking of -- it's LeAnne Rimes. She's only 14, younger than I am, and I'm a bit envious of her. But nevertheless, I'm very happy for her, and I can live with the fact I wasn't born with a Patsy Cline voice. >>>Can't recall the name of the song, but it was one of those The World Should Be a Better Place songs, and one of his lines or verses or something was about a day "when everyone will be free to love whoever they want," (sorry, not exact quote, I don't think). Country stations went nuts and pulled the song, people were furious with him, all his managers wanted him to re-record the song and take that out. He flatly refused and said it was there because he meant it and he wanted it there.<<< It's called "We Shall Be Free" and the quote is "When we're free to love anyone we choose." I must say it's one of my favorite Garth songs, and I'm *very* proud of him as a person because he actually stood up for the gay community everywhere. And he sang that on Muppets Tonight. I'm still *very* upset at our local country stations for pulling that song -- to my knowledge, they haven't played that song at all! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Klingons: I found it absolutely ironic that after all this time in NextGen, they turned baddies again. I kind of like it -- as long as they don't pair up with the Romulans or the Borg. I've seen several of the TOS Klingon episodes, The Trouble with Tribbles being my favorite. I can actually see the absolute hostility between the Empire and the Federation! But in my opinion, TNG didn't need Klingons to be bad -- they had the BORG! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Okay, I think this post warrants an ObMisty: Erm... Are there any equivalent of country singers in Velgarth (and DON'T SAY LESLAC!)? Okay, that was pretty lame. Here's a real one: Imagine this -- Velgarth meets Saved by the Bell. All right, that was worse. I think I'd better get out of here before y'all hurl coconuts at me... Love, & all hail GARTH!, Summersong & Spiffy the Cat ********************************************** Akiko Hirao "Some of the colonists objected to having an anatomically correct android running around without any clothes on" -- Juliana Soong (ST:TNG Inheritance) ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:37:57 +1000 From: Jaiook Park To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Jake's book Message-ID: <199611120537.PAA21219-+AT+-gateway.mgs.schnet.edu.au> >Yeah, Deniz. :P I HAVE a manuscript completed, and it's gone out to the >publisher already, and it's now.. now on another rewrite. (or, in plain >truth english, it was rejected, and I'm rewriting it.) Sounds good, could I have a copy?? (pref. as a text) Jaiook "You mean I put down my sword, you put down your rock and we try to kill each other like civilised people?" Wesly, Princess Bride. Jpark-+AT+-mgs.schnet.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:03:48 -0600 From: "John C. Latimer III" To: Mercedes Lackey Email List Subject: Mac/IBM debate... Message-ID: Why don't we just stop the debate between the two platforms. It is not whether either one is better or not, it is simply the user's preference and personality that determines which platform they like the best... ok? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- John C. Latimer III Email: jjlatime-+AT+-mailbox.samford.edu "All the world's a stage, it's just the casting that sucks..." -- Unknown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:05:42 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Velgarth technology/EQ fluff/frat boys/Chosen Message-ID: <199611120605.WAA03697-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 07:28 PM 11/11/1996 GMT, you wrote: >> Here's a question: >> If someone started circulating an anti-woman list like that around the 3 >> Collegiums, how do you think the individual Heralds and characters in >> ML's books would deal with the miscreants? >> >> WTTW, >> >> rainwood >> > >Oh, I LIKE that question. If it was just a letter, rather than being >acted on.... I would say a long time with a mindhealer at the least. It >goes without saying that a Herald would not even THINK in such a way, or >he'd be repudiated in no time flat. He probably would not have been chosen to begin with If it was anyone who knew, say, >Talia, I think there'd be some personal action going on to ensure this >person COULD never do such a thing again. Do you suppose a strong >mindhealer could put a block in someone's mind so that if they THOUGHT >anything along these lines they would get a severe physical reaction? >Say a seizure? Me, I'd want to be a lot harsher than that (a compulsion >for selfmutilation in response to such a thought) but I think the >Heralds might not go for that. When I think about people like that or the one who raped me, the thing that I really think of is that they are sick (like a disease) rather than making a conscious choice toward the malicious. They have other problems to deal with and I tend to feel sorry for them, as though they don't know any better. I feel if they really knew any woman they would not even consider such thoughts. Kind of an odd way to first post something to a group, but this is an issue that is (obviously) very close to me. I was also glad to have read a couple of other responses to this incident and I appreciate the way all of you have shown your support. Briana ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ :We only know what we're told, and that's little enough. And for all we know it isn't even true. :For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It's the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn't make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions. What do you assume? ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Priestess Message-ID: <199611120640.WAA19108-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 06:37 PM 11/11/1996 GMT, you wrote: >The Priestess of Karma wrote: > >> OBmisty: If you could do so, would you become a Herald, knowing all that >> you do, about what it entails and the sacrifices you might have to make >> in the name of Valdemar? > >Nope. The thought of battle just...bothers me somehow-- but not as much >as having to make a judgement at a trial. I'd rather be a Healer-- >y'know, quiet, helpful, but domineering when necessary. > >--Lee-- 97jsalaz-+AT+-uor.edu -- www.geocities.com/Athens/4709/ Lee, I was thinking about that. Fighting is not something that I thonk I could deal with (mostly harming others, no matter what the cause). But other than that I would enjoy any of the gifts. The moment I got into the Magic series I fell in love with the whole idea (as I suppose the rest of you did :> ). "domineering when necessary" ... an interesting phrase. Briana ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ :We only know what we're told, and that's little enough. And for all we know it isn't even true. :For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It's the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn't make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions. What do you assume? ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:48:52 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid: Talia/Quote/DT movie/FireBird/favmusic/MAC/songs/country Message-ID: <32881DD4.2009-+AT+-geocities.com> Larissa march wrote: > Oh, definitely! I would LOVE to see the story of when he first met > Cinthliss! There are just enough hints to make me want to see more in > what's already there. That's for sure. I'd also like to know about when he hung out with Deke Kestrel. I'd also also like to find a story about Di's Spook Squad from college! I have a wish list, I guess... ;> MorningStar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:53:44 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Solid Fluff, no redeming value. Message-ID: <32881EF8.463F-+AT+-geocities.com> mishi wrote: > OOPPS Yeah I just I am falling a bit behind on pouncing people but I've > been a tad distratcted lately chatting and pouncing me new love. YIPPIE > I"M IN LOVE!!!! The only problem is he lives in South Carolina and only > get to chat with him over the net. Okay well since I don't have a list > of all the newbies' names I'll have to do it this way. Okay newbies > raise your hands. Everybody got them your hands up. Okay now brace > yourselves. *takes a running start and shouts* TIME TO POUNCE ON THE > NEWBIES!!! POUNCE!!! POUNCE!! POUNCE! POUNCE!!! POUNCE!! POUNCE! > POUNCE!!! POUNCE!! POUNCE! POUNCE!!! POUNCE!! POUNCE!. Okay I think that > about covers it. That better now. GIt of PYTOS!!! Aw the heck with. > POUNCES on the Git of Tyops just for the heck of it. *giggle* Oof! Congratulations on being in love! It's fun, isn't it? And Yfandes did on occasion run into stallions, true. I remember one instance where Van groomed her before getting to the in just so she could flirt, yesnomaybe? MorningStar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:54:01 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Anthony/Priestess/visualizing/images/Herald?/Little fall Message-ID: <199611120654.WAA16712-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 09:10 PM 11/11/1996 GMT, you wrote: >Lady Silvermoon said that I said and commented: >> >>For when >> Talia is holding Kris as he is dying.. I cannot get away from the >> paralels between Marius and Eponine, so for that scene I have "A little >> fall of rain", though the roles are a bit different. << >> I love that song. It's so sad. And I can picture that happening. The >> roles are a bit wrong, but if you take the song out of context of the >> musical, it fits. The male/female roles are reversed. Actually, it could >> be either way. Talia could sing it to Kris..."Don't you fret, Mesuir(sp?) >> Kris, I don't feel any pain..." because he was so worried about her. Or he >> could sing it to her, because he was the one who was injured more severely. >> It works. >> > I hadn't thought of it the other way around. That song always >grabs my heartstring and yanks in a way nothing else can. I think it's >because I empathize so well with Eponine... Talia was someone I could >relate to very well, too. With some work on the roles and the words, it >is really fitting. > Also, "a little fall of rain" or what ever the heck that song is called. Maybe that's not it at all. The one "the pavement shines like silver,/ all the lights are misty in the river"... "and the tiger's come at night/ with their voices soft as thunder..." . It was brought to my mind very suddenly in several of the scenes. Briana ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ :We only know what we're told, and that's little enough. And for all we know it isn't even true. :For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It's the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn't make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions. What do you assume? ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:00:43 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: non-misty women/visit Valdemar/hair color Message-ID: <3288209B.5878-+AT+-geocities.com> Rose wrote: > About visiting Valdemar. What I'd like to do, is to go and talk to the > bards and learn their music and maybe travel with a journeyman to > document his beginnings in the realm of music. I'd also like to kind out > what they would think of Prokofiev's Romeo and Julliet. Agreement!!! I'm definitely a music-oriented person. However, I'd also like to go WAY back and meet Urtho. > --- > Obmisty: When I read V&H, I really get confused by the picture on the > cover. Jadrek was the one who gave the shin'a'in the blond hair. The > book says over and over that Kethry has amber hair. Last time I checked, > amber was red/brown. > Dyana Yes, and there's one section, when Tarma and Keth get to Liha'irden where the kids comment on her grass-eyes and sunset hair. I disregard the cover pic, usually casting that as when Keth is inhabiting the body she originally wore as an illusion, then gave the rapist/caravan robber (Lasten??) they caught, then was transfered into by Thalkarsh. The picture resembles that more to my mind. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:03:18 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: hair color Message-ID: <32882136.70-+AT+-geocities.com> Sara A Youngblood wrote: > I think you're referring to *auburn* which is red-brown. Amber is kind > of a dark strawberry-blond, isn't it? I didn't catch that the first time, but you're right, auburn is red-brown. Amber, however, is more goldish. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:17:05 -0800 From: Jefferson or Rain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: SCA-fluff Message-ID: <32876DA1.494F-+AT+-earthlink.net> Summersong wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have a query -- what's SCA? I've been hearing this for a while, and I think I've read about it in CotN. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Okay. . . SCA stands for Society for Creative Anachronism. It was started by Diana Paxon (of _White Raven_ fame) way back in the late 60's, in a backyard in Berkeley, California. It is a recreation of the Middle Ages *as we'd like them to be*. There are 7 Kingdoms encompassing the Known World, and the kingdoms are divided into principalities, baronies, marches, etc. It differs from Ren Faire in that you don't have to take out a 2nd mortgage on your home to play, it runs year round, and instead of watching the actors around you, you pick a persona and create that person. Costume, life, history, everything. Personally, I do both Faire and SCA, and they are both a lot of fun. There are official SCA websites, and Kingdom sites on the net - for once I don't have any URL's but you can check any good search engine and you should find something. Hotbot had a few links, and so did Lycos. If you want more information, or want to find a group in your area - mail me off list. :-) I am always glad to drag, er introduce folks to SCA and/or Renaissance Faires! obMisty: Did anyone notice that in the Bedlam's Bard series, the Faire sites for Northern AND Southern were all wrong? I mean, a lot of the landmarks and things she talked about just aren't *there*. Sorry for the mostly off topic post, but the obMisty tied it together ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:35:59 -0700 From: DawnRain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Braid: Songs/DT/Kris as blonde/Billy Message-ID: <328836EF.7850-+AT+-geocities.com> miyako hirao wrote: > I have a query -- what's SCA? I've been hearing this for a while, and I > think I've read about it in CotN. Society of Creative Anachronism. I am a fringe member. > Okay, I think this post warrants an ObMisty: Erm... Are there any > equivalent of country singers in Velgarth (and DON'T SAY LESLAC!)? Okay, > that was pretty lame. Here's a real one: Imagine this -- Velgarth meets > Saved by the Bell. All right, that was worse. I think I'd better get out of > here before y'all hurl coconuts at me... Ouch... I think both make my head hurt... MorningStar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:57:08 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: non-misty women/visit Valdemar/hair color Message-ID: <199611120857.AAA00057-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 11:57 PM 11/11/1996 GMT, you wrote: >Rainwood wrote: >People were talking about a good word when they hear the awful things >that some peoples' minds can come up with, how about scared? Scared that >people might start believing these horrible ideas. Fear that there is >nothing one can do about it? And impotent anger that the people's necks >are not in your hands? All of this talk reminds me of a book I just finished reading "Beauty" by Sherri S. Tepper. Some of it is sort of random, but the wole idea is wonderful. Is anyone else reminded of that here? Briana+ ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ :We only know what we're told, and that's little enough. And for all we know it isn't even true. :For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It's the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn't make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions. What do you assume? ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:06:13 -0800 (PST) From: Kat To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Anthony/Priestess/visualizing/images/Herald?/Little fall Message-ID: Briana said: > Also, "a little fall of rain" or what ever the heck that song is called. > Maybe that's not it at all. The one "the pavement shines like silver,/ all > the lights are misty in the river"... "and the tiger's come at night/ with > their voices soft as thunder..." . It was brought to my mind very suddenly > in several of the scenes. > The first one is from On My Own, which is sung by Eponine and the second song is I Dreamed a Dream, sung by Fantine.. but I can see where those fit in too. In fact, there is much of that musical which fits in parts. Kat Priestess of Karma ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:23:10 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Message-ID: <199611120923.BAA09393-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 05:42 AM 11/12/1996 GMT, you wrote: >>One more question, before we actually get into the message: Is there >>anyone >>out there onlist who can reccommend a good book for learning Gaelic? > >There's a book out there called "teach yourslef Irish" or irish gaelic, I >can't remember, but its really good, though I've forgotten nearly all my >Irish Gaelic. > I know this is really off-topic, but I know a little about Gaelic, and if the person who posted this wants to get in touch with me, I may (or may not) be able to help. For instance, there is a Gaelic list out there (I know that address is here somewhere) they do Scottish and Maynx as well, and etc... Briana ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ :We only know what we're told, and that's little enough. And for all we know it isn't even true. :For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It's the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn't make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions. What do you assume? ____________________________________________________________________________ _______ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:02:41 +0800 (SST) From: Lady Windsong To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Braid: Mostly fluff: High Priestess/Hair Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961112180143.2f9f4718-+AT+-singnet.com.sg> Hi everybody! <*big* grin> You all have been duly warned, this is a Fluff intensive post! Stormwind spoke: >Well, you aren't the only one around though I don't really need a High >Priestess/Priest. What does one do as a High Priestess/Priest when the >God/Goddess is going to be around all the time? Unless you intend to go for >a extremely long vacation or to lurk for a long time. Hmm, I can't remember which Goddess *you* are, Storm! And just for the record, *I* don't have a High Priest(ess) too! :) Yeah, well, doesn't it just *sound* nice to have a 'High Priestess' or 'Avatar'? BTW, as long as you're not trying to be a God(dess), you don't have to be Named, right? :) Hey *Jake*!!! > I'd offer to be your High Priestess, if you don't mind me being a Deity as well? What the policy on things like this anyway, fellow Deities? Oooh, I'd better put that in better language, then. Milord Jake, God of Parodies, I humbly ask to be allowed to serve You as Your High Priestess. I simply ask that you consider my application. :) There, *that* sounds a *little* nicer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Kay, just to make this whole post legit: ObMisty Warning!!!!!<--Yah. You all know. 'k, on the post 'bout being a Herald: *sigh* I guess I'm not the responsible, 'country & monarch comes first' kind of person. I *try* to be, but most of the time I'm not. As I'm sure Stormwind and my she'enedra can tell you. I'd love to be a Herald, but I *doubt* I'd be Chosen, for some reason. If I *were* Chosen, I'd take it. Like Heather said, I wouldn't feel comfortable *not* taking that chance. I agree with Lee though. I'd rather be a Healer. I'll serve in other ways. ObMisty *again*. Gee, I'm in a good mood! BTW, since I'm in such a good mood for no apparent reason: Here're some hugs for everyone! {{{{{}}}}} 'Bout the colour of Kris' and Dirk's hair: I guess I kinda always 'saw' Kris as dark-haired (he *did* have black hair, right?), and Dirk as kinda sandy-blond...what *do* you call that colour, someone! I *think* it comes from living where almost *everybody* has dark hair. And eyes. But...what about Dirk's hair? Hmm, I'm contradicting myself, am I not? Oh, well. *sigh* And I never 'saw' Dirk as *ugly*, just kinda plain. Hmm...I don't really 'see' *anyone* as ugly. *sigh* Call it a mental block. Even in RL. 'Kay, I think that's enough out of me for now. Have a nice day, y'all! Wind to Thy Wings, Windsong. (I'm clipping the .sig. This post is long enough. ) ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 940 *********************************