MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 943 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) New Misty stuff by hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com 2) songbook by Rose 3) Re: Leslac/S&S 3 by Shadra 4) Kris' hair/LHM Covers/Becoming a Herald by singer-+AT+-iglobal.net 5) Re:hair color by Celia Marsh 6) Stefen's picture by singer-+AT+-iglobal.net 7) Chocolate by Charlene Joan Falkiner 8) Re: Vanyel and Stefen by Lee <97jsalaz-+AT+-jasper.uor.edu> 9) Re: Altra?/Samhain by Jefferson or Rain 10) Re: Leslac/MUSHes by infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) 11) LHM covers/Chocolate/song by Mat the Cat in Green 12) Re:Altra by infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) 13) Re: mostly fluff by Paradox 14) Leslac/MUSHes/butting in by Lee <97jsalaz-+AT+-jasper.uor.edu> 15) RE: SCA-fluff by Wyrick D TSgt CS/SCBC 16) Re: Piers by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA 17) Re:Leslac by infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) 18) Re: Samhain pronunciation by BudLor-+AT+-aol.com 19) Re: Altra?/Samhain by Paradox 20) Re: SCA-fluff by Tensen 21) Re: SCA-fluff/Heather/Misty's Music by Tensen 22) Re: LHM covers/Chocolate/song by Paradox 23) Re: Leslac/MUSHes/butting in by Paradox 24) Re: mostly fluff by Kat 25) Re: LHM covers/Chocolate/song by Shannon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:19:04 -0800 From: hallett-+AT+-sprynet.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: New Misty stuff Message-ID: <199611130019.QAA23041-+AT+-m4.sprynet.com> Hi Everybody! Delurking here for just a moment to let everyone know there's a new Misty and David Arkenstone short story and CD available. The new story (and the CD) is entitled _Return of the Gaurdians_. I haven't had a chance to read the story or listen to the entire CD yet since we just bought it a few hours ago, but I hope this story is better than Kyla's story on their last collaboration! I'm sure the music will be fantastic though! (Listening to it now and like what I've heard so far.) Also, I saw Firebird at the bookstore the other day so it is on some shelves now for those of you craving new Misty already. I'm still looking forward to reading Storm Breaking myself. I've done a very good job at being patient and waiting for it to come out in The Science Fiction Book Club. I'm so glad they'll be carrying it next month! Well, I guess that's all for now until I catch up with some of this mail. Later! Arielle "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody may be looking." ~ H. L. Mencken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:28:03 -0500 From: Rose To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: songbook Message-ID: <32891613.537-+AT+-ctol.net> Rainwood wrote: >obMisty, obMisty, obMisty. . . er, well, oh! oh! I know - er, are >Misty's songbooks just the lyrics and general chord arrangements, or is >it actual sheet music? I play the Celtic harp, and really want some >new music! They songbooks are no different from any basic panio music you may see. only the melody line is written and only siimple strumming cords are given above the music (a couple of which sound very wrong). Maybe It's because H,H,&H was her first (?) songbook, but you could probably do better picking up the music from the recordings. Dyana -- "If I couldn't fill my stomach, I'd fill my head. But I never could fill the words that I said." Pantera "Are we dead?" ;;;"No" ;;;"But you promised." Dinosaurs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:58:23 -0600 (CST) From: Shadra To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Leslac/S&S 3 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961112175824.267fe55a-+AT+-BrandonU.CA> Ele wrote: >ObMisty: Are there any stories somewhere about Leslac, after his marrying a member of Valdemar's nobility?> Which book did it mention Leslac's marriage? I've got a soft spot for that goofy Bard. Did Tarma & Kethry ever get back at him for writing "Three's"? There is some mention of his exploits in the short stories Misty did in the S&S series. ******************************************************************************** Emily the Invisble wrote, >I keep hoping that I'll be lucky like Vrondi and find a copy of S&S 3 >somewhere... My fave used book store at home always has back issues >of the others (new even!), but never, ever that one. I think that it >must've had a bunch of authors that people collect write really >awesome stories, combined with a small print run...> That bookstore wouldn't have a copy of the first S&S would it? It's the only one I'm missing! I think the third one is popular (at least with Misty fans) because it tells the story of when Tarma's clan gets wiped out and how her and Kethry meet. It's one of the best places for insight into Tarma's character. Meow Mix. Shadra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:39:22 -0600 From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Kris' hair/LHM Covers/Becoming a Herald Message-ID: I have never had any trouble seeing Kris with black hair. Of course, my preference is for dark men ;) ;), and to me raven-haired *is* angelic. And those eyes..... and his hands. If he had big, strong, graceful hands too..... Mat: I have the original LHM editions with the embossed covers and the foil. I can tell for sure about the foil becase the books are falling apart (and I am *careful* with my books) and I can see the silver..... I am about to replace them, because it hurts me to see them in such condition, but I think I will keep the others too because they are original. The foil is in the letter and the bars around the center paintings: Van and Yfandes, Van, Tashir and Ghost, and tattered Van and Yfandes, respectively. As to becoming a Herald: I am really happy being exactly what I am, a Shin'a'in horse healer. I have commitments to my Goddess and my people even more binding. The aspect of being a Herald that all seem to find so attractive (besides having a Companion, of course) is the closeness of the Circle. But I have that with my Clan already, and more. And the horses........... Also, this saves me from the war and killing that are often a part of being a Herald, and which go completely against my nature. I can protect myself and the children perfectly well, but I could not be a warleader without needing a healer myself....and not for physical wounds. There are lengths I will go to for me and mine, always defensive, and I would always rather have another way. (*Please* don't tell me this sounds Heraldic! ) And then there are those *blinding* white outfits.................. I do agree with what has already been said, that what sets one apart to be Chosen is something internal, that allows this person to *become* one who can set their duty above everything else, Valdemar style. (There are, after all, many kinds of duty.) BTB Mat, "Princess Tashira"? < looks at Mat, blue eyes questioning). Go Gently, Tresta %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Tresta shena Jor'ethan "Love must live free." Healer to horses -Shin'a'in Teaching %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "To be tired of horses is to be tired of life; horses are a gift to us." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 15:47:19 EST From: Celia Marsh To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re:hair color Message-ID: <199611122047.PAA21766-+AT+-hobbes.kzoo.edu> > > ME>On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:55:17 GMT Rose writes: > > ME>>Obmisty: When I read V&H, I really get confused by the picture on the > ME>>cover. Jadrek was the one who gave the shin'a'in the blond hair. The > ME>>book says over and over that Kethry has amber hair. Last time I > ME>>checked, > ME>>amber was red/brown. > ME>> Dyana > > ME>I think you're referring to *auburn* which is red-brown. Amber is kind > ME>of a dark strawberry-blond, isn't it? > ME>Tygriss-+AT+-juno.com > > > > That's what I always thought....... > LadyRavn > > I feel it is necessary to point out that amber does come in several shades. When I hear 'amber' I think of a red gold color cause that's my favorite shade of it, but it ranges from a really red color to a blond color. Love and kisses, Cele ---------------------------------------------------------------------- May we kiss those we please and please those we kiss ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cecelia Ann Marsh |"You've been reading | Box 444 Hicks Center |too much meaning from | Kalamazoo MI 49006 |existence" | E-mail: k95cm02-+AT+-kzoo.edu | | http://www.kzoo.edu/~k95cm02/ | -James _Lullaby_ | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:50:35 -0600 From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Stefen's picture Message-ID: On November 12 Jacquelle wrote: >I'm sorry--have I missed something? What book has the picture of >Stef on it? Stef's picture is on the cover of Magic's Price with Vanyel and Yfandes and falling leaves in the center. He is at the top right corner, under the young man with flowing white hair (Moondance, I think.) The young man on the spine side with pale skin and short black hair is Learth... Go Gently, Tresta %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% Tresta shena Jor'ethan "Love must live free." Healer to horses -Shin'a'in Teaching %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "To be tired of horses is to be tired of life; horses are a gift to us." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:52:13 -0600 (CST) From: Charlene Joan Falkiner To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Chocolate Message-ID: Hi. Is there a high priestess of Chocolate, and all that is associated with it? Can I apply? Char {ad655-+AT+-sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca} ***I fall upon the thorns of life*** ***I bleed*** ---Percy Shelley--- :):):):) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:06:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lee <97jsalaz-+AT+-jasper.uor.edu> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Vanyel and Stefen Message-ID: Tresta wrote: > >Forgive me, but I have just had a naughty thought. Are Vanyel and Stefen > >still able to be, er, together in the Forest of Sorrows? I agree with Danya's reasoning, but I'd also like to point out that in the first book about Tannim, he tells Ross Whosit that when you're a ghost you can still do a number of things-- and Tannim specifically mentions sex. Not that the urban fantasies & the Velgarth stories necessarily have the same cosmology, but mostly they seem to. Come to think of it, the Shadow Lover scene in MPromise when Vanyel was out-of-body also suggests a lot. Not that he necessarily would have, er, never mind. --Lee-- 97jsalaz-+AT+-uor.edu -- www.geocities.com/Athens/4709/ "What time is it?" --Dekker, P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 03:37:31 -0800 From: Jefferson or Rain To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Altra?/Samhain Message-ID: <3288617B.2570-+AT+-earthlink.net> > Cennydd asked: > >>If you really want to talk about a weird mix-up, am I the only one who > can*not* think of Altra as male/masculine? Yes! Actually, it is hard for me to assign gender to Altra at all. That character really feels sortof *neutered* to me. Perhaps Vkandis knows a really good vet? No, but seriously folks, they loved me in London. . . Altra is much to otherworldly for me to think of *him* as male. and then I think Lady Silvermoon asked: > How do you pronounce Samhain? It was on X-Files the other night, and I'm > pretty certain it's not pronounced like it sounds. Anyone see that one? > It is pronounced "sow-an" - although I've heard it pronounced "sow-ain", "so-ain", "so-an", and so on, and so on, and so on. . . (ducks coconut and pops up giggling) that's the way I've always said it, but everybody seems to have a certain twist. . . there ought to be a dissection of the sounds in a really good gaelic dictionary - Briana are you listening? And I watched about the first 5 minutes of that particular episode, burst into hysterical tears and forced my husband to give up the remote, it was so disturbing. Nightshade said: >>I have to add some more to the PoV, imagining characters discussion. I've said I don't have trouble imagining them, but really for me it's almost as if I *have* to have a mental image of the character, plus scenes, other characters. etc.<< I get a much clearer picture of the earlier characters than I do of the newer ones for some reason. I don't know why, but the characters from AotQ really are strong in my mind, but later characters are sortof hard to *see*. I wonder if this has anything to do with the way that ML's writing has changed? Larry's pictures actually made it harder for me to get a fix on the characters - it was like a superimposed double image of my mind's image and his. My two year old just toddled up and (with finger in mouth) said "get off de wine Momma" (get offline momma) - so I think I've got to go bake cookies or do something domestic. WTTW, rainwood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 22:45 EST From: infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Leslac/MUSHes Message-ID: >Ele wrote: >>ObMisty: Are there any stories somewhere about Leslac, after his marrying a >member of Valdemar's nobility?> >Shadra asked: >Which book did it mention Leslac's marriage? I've got a soft spot for that >goofy Bard. Did Tarma & Kethry ever get back at him for writing "Three's"? >There is some mention of his exploits in the short stories Misty did in the >S&S series. Ele hastens to reply: At the end of Oathbreakers, Herald Roald asks Tarma how much it would be worth having Leslac packed off to Valdemar, PERMANENTLY, and explains that he is courting an old biddy who is part of his retinue (the old biddy of course being head over heels in love with him). Finally, Stefansen agrees to enforce a sword-point marriage on Leslac in exchange for a Shin'a'in (sp?) mare in foal. Something like that. In BTS, Kero also mentions that the story of how Tarma and Kethry got rid of Leslac is tied up with the story of Rethwellan's debt to Valdemar. It all happened in the same room in the library of the palace in Rethwellan, after Stefansen is crowned. What has always bothered me about BTS (ducking in case there is a coconut coming this way) is that the promise of Rethwellan pledging Valdemar favor for favor is made in Roald's lodge near the border, and not in the palace. O.K., I guess it must have been made again in the palace and we are not told. Off topic: anyone here on the Elendor MUSH? Just wondering. And also, I know it has been discussed, and also the reasons why, but let me moan, right? Just why can't we possibly have a Valdemar MUSH? Regards, Ele Priestess of Karma ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:54:26 -0500 (EST) From: Mat the Cat in Green To: Mercedes Lackey mailing list Subject: LHM covers/Chocolate/song Message-ID: > From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net > BTB Mat, "Princess Tashira"? < looks at Mat, blue eyes questioning). A kind of running list-joke. Lots of us think that Tashir looks quite a bit too feminine on the cover of Magic's Promise. Therefore, "Princess Tashira" is born. > On November 12 Jacquelle wrote: > >I'm sorry--have I missed something? What book has the picture of > >Stef on it? > > Stef's picture is on the cover of Magic's Price with Vanyel and Yfandes and > falling leaves in the center. He is at the top right corner, under the > young man with flowing white hair (Moondance, I think.) The young man on > the spine side with pale skin and short black hair is Learth... You think that that's Stef?????<-puzzlement galore. I've always thought (and I think that this was the list consensous ages ago when we analyzed all three covers) that that's Jisa underneath Starwind (could be Moondance, but he looks "regal" enough to fit how I picture Starwind). As for the one on the left being Leareth, it just doesn't look enough like Van. Remember that Leareth is supposed to be a mirror image of Van (tho we can excuse the hair b/c of Van's bottle of Clairol). If it wasn't for that metal collar thing, I'd think by the stuff below her (and I think it's a woman) that it's Lissandra, the Herald-Mage alchemist. =========================================================================== > From: Charlene Joan Falkiner > Hi. Is there a high priestess of Chocolate, and all that is associated > with it? Can I apply? I doubt it since, IIRC, Lady Thess's mom is the Goddess of Chocolate. (Unbeknowest to many of you, the God thing started with Thess's off-line friends and family, and sort of expanded to the list) =========================================================================== For the song thread, a really tounge-in-cheek idea: Even though it's not in an actual scene, for Shadowdancer, how about ABBA's Gimme,Gimme,Gimme (a Man After Midnight)? Mat Cat Person, Champion in Green, |"Carmen Miranda's Ghost is haunting Adept, God of Procrastination | Space Station Three. Half the Heathen #???, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | crew have seen her, plus the mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu | Portmaster and me." http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/ | --- Leslie Fish ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 23:01 EST From: infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re:Altra Message-ID: >> Cennydd asked: >> >>If you really want to talk about a weird mix-up, am I the only one who >> can*not* think of Altra as male/masculine? > >Yes! Actually, it is hard for me to assign gender to Altra at all. That >character really feels sortof *neutered* to me. Perhaps Vkandis knows a >really good vet? No, but seriously folks, they loved me in London. . . >Altra is much to otherworldly for me to think of *him* as male. I agree on his somehow seeming neuter. I do not think of him as a woman either, and I somehow cannot think of him as having lived previously the way I can with Companions. Don't know why, but the Firecats seem sort of Grove-born to me (before you throw anything remember that I said *seem* not *are*. I know they are supposed to be reincarnated Sons of the Sun. WTTW, Ele ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:05:06 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: mostly fluff Message-ID: <199611130205.SAA01495-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 12:23 AM 11/13/1996 GMT, you wrote: R618-+AT+-academic.truman.edu wrote: >Oh, ack, cough. Being the Les Miz freak I am, I have to correct that. >Those two lines come from two separate songs, and neither of them are "A >Little Fall of Rain." The "pavement shines like silver" bit is from "On >My Own," and the "tigers come at night" line is from "I Dreamed a >Dream." I see how one could confuse them, as they're both massively >depressing solos by female leads sung shortly before they die. > I apologize for the mess with the 2 totally different songs, I wasn't really thinking when I wrote it (I was feeling romantic and my thoughts, well got sort of ... garbled, and...) :( I do however appreciate all of the kind responses. Like Lee said I am a newbie, and I guess I really didn't introduce myself, and I guess I did just sort of butt-in, *looks at the ground and shuffles her feet*, but you all did look like you were having such a good time and... well... *looking very innocent and childlike* Can I play too? Trying to be very humble, but still rather anxious, Briana ================================= "There's nothing sadder than a dead fish" -- Logan's Run ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:32:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lee <97jsalaz-+AT+-jasper.uor.edu> To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Leslac/MUSHes/butting in Message-ID: > Ele wrote: > At the end of Oathbreakers, Herald Roald asks Tarma how much it would be > worth having Leslac packed off to Valdemar, PERMANENTLY, and explains that > he is courting an old biddy who is part of his retinue (the old biddy of > course being head over heels in love with him). Finally, Stefansen agrees to > enforce a sword-point marriage on Leslac in exchange for a Shin'a'in (sp?) > mare in foal. Something like that. Er, iirc I had the impression (tho' I haven't reread Oathbreakers in a long time, like at least omigosh 3 months! ) that Leslac's bride was younger. Something about all those suitors horning in on her and her money, and her relatives having quite a problem on their hands because she didn't have any sense...Now this is going to drive me crazy... books-+AT+-parents.house...textevd, anyone? [Ele mentions inconsistency in where Roald is supposed to have made the famous pledge to Stefansen] That particular inconsistency always bothered me less than, well--I'll just ask: Does anybody know how many generations there are between Stefansen & Faram? Sometimes I get the impression that S is supposed to be F's father, but most of the time I think it's supposed to be that S is his grandfather. [re the no Valdemar MUSH rule] > I know > it has been discussed, and also the reasons why, but let me moan, right? If you'll let me moan about the no fanfic rule... Bri: about the butt-inski thing...I wrote that about me, not you, silly. Remember, ice cream has no bones! --Lee-- 97jsalaz-+AT+-uor.edu -- www.geocities.com/Athens/4709/ "What time is it?" --Dekker, P. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 14:26:00 PST From: Wyrick D TSgt CS/SCBC To: mercedes-lackey Subject: RE: SCA-fluff Message-ID: <3288F8AD-+AT+-smtpgw.beale.af.mil> ---------- From: mercedes-lackey[SMTP:mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 10:14 PM To: wyrickd Subject: Re: SCA-fluff > I believe there are actually 13 currently > 1) West > 2) East > 3) Middle > 4) Atenveldt > 5) Meridies > 6) Caid > 7) Antlantia > 8) Ansteorra > 9) An Tir > 10) Calontir > 11) Trimaris > 12) Outlands > 13) I can't for the life of me remember what this one is. > > I wish I could help you. I can see the map in my head, but the >names aren't coming to me at all. What is the name for the Kingdom in >Europe? Is that on there? > >Kat >The Priestess of Karma >aka >Trooper Kathryn McKenna >of Graham's Sable Scallops Second Division >of the Barony of DragonsLaire >of the Kingdom of An Tir Quite right, the Kingdom of Drackenwold (sp?) is in Europe and is missing from the list. Daniel Wyrick aka Daniel AEthelwulf The Horsemen of Judgment keep Principality of Cynagua, Kingdom of the West ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 21:35:32 -0500 From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Piers Message-ID: <199611130245.VAA21148-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA> Jake said: >>All right, Deniz. Are you telling me that I *shouldn't* take other people's opinons on work as part of my decision?<< No, that's not what I said. Or at least, not what I meant to say. I was trying to say that you shouldn't base your arguments and generalizations on other people's say-so. Of course, you can consider it. (I am *not* being bitchy, woodlark!... oh, well then...) I meant that in a gentle, non-offensive manner, really I did. I just couldn't word it better...(ok, woodlark, put the knife down...). Briana said: >>*looking very innocent and childlike* Can I play too?<< You're a newbie? weren't you posting last month when I joined? Oh, well. Welcome anyway! Of course you can play! Except I get the brownies tonight! Er... I need an obMisty, don't I? Well, I'm thinking about it. Wait, Cat (who's visiting my place and looking at the mail over my shoulder) has one. JInx High has Tannim in the corner at the school dance, and in another of the Serrated Edge books, he mentions that this was the first time he had seen magic. So, how does the timline work for DT and Tannim? Doesn't the fact that he's still in high school in Jinx mean that Keith would have had to get AIDS sometime in the mid-seventies for Tannim to be out of high school and established at SERRA? In Chrome circle, he says that his ex-girlfriend is working on post-doc stuff, which makes it at least 8 or 9 years out of high school. Also, just to nit-pick, he didn't get the name Tannim til after he met Chinthliss. (Do I have to dodge coconuts now?) Well, there we have my... (ow, ow, stop it!) okay, our (ok, ok, I get the message) Cat's obMisty. (some people -- sheesh! ouchJKsalgjw) I did not hit her. I only stole the computer. love, Cat. Brava. I think we'll wrap this up for tonight. Our GoH, Cat, knows I'm ticklish, so I'm getting offline before I say any more stupid things. Like... (Noooooooooo!!!!!) I'm going, now. I think I'll just check for new mail reeal quick. Nothing. Bah, humbug. Gotta go! Hey, Jake? Do you think that ring of fire-protectant whatever could be modified to repel ticklers? I have to go and live up to my trade of being an engineer -- industrious. ;> love, deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |But she had the trick of making a little of Procrastination and Holy |island right in the middle of time, and of Custodian of the B-Day List. |your knowing, which is what time does to Confused? Write me! |you. -- Robert Penn Warren dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 23:56 EST From: infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria) To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re:Leslac Message-ID: >> Ele wrote: >> At the end of Oathbreakers, Herald Roald asks Tarma how much it would be >> worth having Leslac packed off to Valdemar, PERMANENTLY, and explains that >> he is courting an old biddy who is part of his retinue (the old biddy of >> course being head over heels in love with him). Finally, Stefansen agrees to >> enforce a sword-point marriage on Leslac in exchange for a Shin'a'in (sp?) >> mare in foal. Something like that. > >Er, iirc I had the impression (tho' I haven't reread Oathbreakers in a >long time, like at least omigosh 3 months! >) that Leslac's bride was younger. Something about >all those suitors horning in on her and her money, and her relatives >having quite a problem on their hands because she didn't have any >sense...Now this is going to drive me crazy... >books-+AT+-parents.house...textevd, anyone? > Here goes: Oathbreakers page 274. Roald explains: "Countess Reine, who is actually a sewwt old biddy uinlike her harridan sister who is no longer with us".....something to the effect that she died 'accidentally' a few years ago. Also, her being a Countess suggests a certain age. Bye, Ele ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:58:51 -0500 From: BudLor-+AT+-aol.com To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Samhain pronunciation Message-ID: <961112215851_2013494112-+AT+-emout15.mail.aol.com> Lady Silvermoon----According to the pro-guide in a book I've recently read, the given pronunciation for Samhain is----saw-win (kinda like Sowan! Lorraine Future Goddess of Domesticity/Laundry But I'm not dead yet! MP/Holy Grail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:05:38 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Altra?/Samhain Message-ID: <199611130305.TAA00093-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 01:56 AM 11/13/1996 GMT, you wrote: >and then I think Lady Silvermoon asked: >> How do you pronounce Samhain? It was on X-Files the other night, and I'm >> pretty certain it's not pronounced like it sounds. Anyone see that one? >> How did they say it? >It is pronounced "sow-an" - although I've heard it pronounced "sow-ain", >"so-ain", "so-an", and so on, and so on, and so on. . . (ducks coconut >and pops up giggling) that's the way I've always said it, but everybody >seems to have a certain twist. . . there ought to be a dissection of >the sounds in a really good gaelic dictionary - Briana are you >listening? And I watched about the first 5 minutes of that particular >episode, burst into hysterical tears and forced my husband to give up >the remote, it was so disturbing. I'm here. Actually I have heard it all of those ways as well as "so-ween" although... I'll look it up later. If anyone else finds it, let me know. Lee... do you happen to have a dictionary handy, seeings as you've *been there* and all... =) Briana > ================================= "There's nothing sadder than a dead fish" -- Logan's Run ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:22:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Tensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: SCA-fluff Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Emily L Cartier wrote: > > 13) I can't for the life of me remember what this one is. > I think the last one is Drachenwald. And isn't Aethelmearc supposed > to be going up to kingdom level soon? > > Emily the invisible, who likes the SCA cause it explains mess ups in > the Dernyi books history > Yes. Drachenwald. Just love that I forget all the former sub-branches of the East, when I'm in the East. But I can rmemeber the names of the other kingdoms :) Drachenwald, the kingdom of Europe. That got its independence from the East Kingdom on July 4th. And had a japanese persona person as its first king. As for Aethelmarc, from what I've heard it won't go to kingdom status, because half of the region still doesn't want to. (I could be wrong though, just thats what the last reports I had heard on it was.) Tensen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:27:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Tensen To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: SCA-fluff/Heather/Misty's Music Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Jefferson or Rain wrote: > > I believe there are actually 13 currently > > Are there? I didn't know we'd grown. I won't tell you the copyright > date on my edition of the Known World Handbook, 'cept to say that it's > old. Really, really old. I haven't been truly *active* for a few > years, just hanging out on the fringes of Cynagua and I'm currently lost > in Siber. . . er, I mean, Caid. So - *woops!* *silly me!* Thanks for > the gentle correction, and boy do I feel sheepish! See what happens > when you run off and work faire for a few years, instead of going to > barony meetings? > Nothing wrong with faires. i live at them.. well never actyakky wirj at ibem just go to them frequently. but the Known World well changes too frequently. I think its always slightly off before they even get around to printing a new map, and they don't even do that for a few years at a time sometims. I mean in my Barony they keep fighting over borders with our neighbors. The SCA, INC, decided on borders based on zip codes, which of course never end up right, because you have other Baronies with territory within your barony and such. And they leave it to the baronies to decide what to do with it. Sometimes its a eaceful swap. Sometimes its a violent one. Sometimes they try snagging extra portions, and other times they forget they even have the area. Tensen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:25:03 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: LHM covers/Chocolate/song Message-ID: <199611130325.TAA02360-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 02:20 AM 11/13/1996 GMT, you wrote: >> From: singer-+AT+-iglobal.net > >> BTB Mat, "Princess Tashira"? < looks at Mat, blue eyes questioning). > >A kind of running list-joke. Lots of us think that Tashir looks quite >a bit too feminine on the cover of Magic's Promise. Therefore, "Princess >Tashira" is born. > >> On November 12 Jacquelle wrote: >> >I'm sorry--have I missed something? What book has the picture of >> >Stef on it? >> >> Stef's picture is on the cover of Magic's Price with Vanyel and Yfandes and >> falling leaves in the center. He is at the top right corner, under the >> young man with flowing white hair (Moondance, I think.) The young man on >> the spine side with pale skin and short black hair is Learth... > > You think that that's Stef?????<-puzzlement galore. I've always >thought (and I think that this was the list consensous ages ago when >we analyzed all three covers) that that's Jisa underneath Starwind (could >be Moondance, but he looks "regal" enough to fit how I picture Starwind). >As for the one on the left being Leareth, it just doesn't look enough >like Van. Remember that Leareth is supposed to be a mirror image of >Van (tho we can excuse the hair b/c of Van's bottle of Clairol). >If it wasn't for that metal collar thing, I'd think by the stuff below >her (and I think it's a woman) that it's Lissandra, the Herald-Mage >alchemist. > I feel the same way, although my roommate thinks that both of those pictures look masculine or like men at any rate,... anyone, anyone.... ================================= "There's nothing sadder than a dead fish" -- Logan's Run ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: Paradox To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: Leslac/MUSHes/butting in Message-ID: <199611130326.TAA07632-+AT+-uclink4.berkeley.edu> At 02:52 AM 11/13/1996 GMT, you wrote: > > >Bri: about the butt-inski thing...I wrote that about me, not you, silly. >Remember, ice cream has no bones! I remember, um something, but ... what were you referring to? =) Briana ================================= "There's nothing sadder than a dead fish" -- Logan's Run ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:39:07 -0800 (PST) From: Kat To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: mostly fluff Message-ID: > Like Lee said I am a newbie, and I guess I really didn't introduce myself, > and I guess I did just sort of butt-in, *looks at the ground and shuffles > her feet*, but you all did look like you were having such a good time and... > well... > *looking very innocent and childlike* Can I play too? > Kat reaches out to Briana and grabs her hands and starts to swing her around and around till they both fall down, dizzy. "Sure you can come and play, luv." Smilling at her she says, "I'm new here too and I'm already a preistess." OBMisty: I am curious as to this, does anyone know the full Sunsinger and Shadowdancer story? There are parts of it all over the place in different songs and stuff, but is it ever really told? Kat Priestess of Karma ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:58:47 -0800 From: Shannon To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk Subject: Re: LHM covers/Chocolate/song Message-ID: <32897FB7.104F-+AT+-ix.netcom.com> Paradox wrote: > > >> > >> Stef's picture is on the cover of Magic's Price with Vanyel and Yfandes and > >> falling leaves in the center. He is at the top right corner, under the > >> young man with flowing white hair (Moondance, I think.) The young man on > >> the spine side with pale skin and short black hair is Learth... > > > > You think that that's Stef?????<-puzzlement galore. I've always > >thought (and I think that this was the list consensous ages ago when > >we analyzed all three covers) that that's Jisa underneath Starwind (could > >be Moondance, but he looks "regal" enough to fit how I picture Starwind). > >As for the one on the left being Leareth, it just doesn't look enough > >like Van. Remember that Leareth is supposed to be a mirror image of > >Van (tho we can excuse the hair b/c of Van's bottle of Clairol). > >If it wasn't for that metal collar thing, I'd think by the stuff below > >her (and I think it's a woman) that it's Lissandra, the Herald-Mage > >alchemist. > > > > I feel the same way, although my roommate thinks that both of those pictures > look masculine or like men at any rate,... anyone, anyone.... Hello, I'm new around here, and I decided to finally jump in and respond to something! I have to say I think the picture is definitely Stef. The description of him when Vanyel first sees him fits--page 32, "dark auburn hair crowned a triangular face...high cheekbones..." Later it mentions the hair being wavy. About the person on the other side, I'm not as confident in that one, although I always assumed it was Leareth, too. Shannon ------------------------------ End of MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 943 *********************************