MERCEDES-LACKEY Digest 947

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Owlflight info!
	by Mat the Cat in Green <mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>
  2) SOLO!!!!!
	by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
  3) Re: Samhain&X-files (lotsa fluff, with an obMisty about bondbirds) 
	by Zig1111-+AT+-aol.com
  4) Feeling Sorry for Songs
	by Melanie Harris <mmharris-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au>
  5) Re: Getting Chosen/visiting Valdemar
	by Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  6) Re: Samhain&X-files (lotsa fluff,  with an obMisty about bondbirds) 
	by Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  7) Braid Ho!
	by Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
  8) Re: Hi, Hades!/kestra'cherns/Choosing/the bondbird thing
	by Larissa march <kitanzi-+AT+-javanet.com>
  9) Re: Godhood appointments.
	by "Kimber Brumbaugh" <kimber_brumbaugh-+AT+-library.lib.ncsu.edu>
 10) Re:sun&shadow/solo
	by "Emily L Cartier" <ecartier-+AT+-engr.udayton.edu>
 11) Plait: unwanted mail/BDAY/bonding/those rudebies/PMS/the
	by dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
 12) ADMIN: misdirected messages
	by Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
 13) Reply to:When is Florian going to Choose Karal
	by Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
 14) Re: ADMIN: misdirected messages
	by "Cara S. Smith" <nitebird-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net>
 15) Missing a digest
	by mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa)
 16) Re: ADMIN: misdirected messages
	by Tensen <tensen-+AT+-crow.cybercomm.net>
 17) Mostly FLUFF!!
	by Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 18) Re: Braid Ho!
	by "JAIME HATHAWAY" <JSJAHATH-+AT+-future.judson.edu>
 19) Re: earth spirit/ Thanks 
	by Rose <prose-+AT+-ctol.net>
 20) Re: Braid Ho!
	by Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
 21) Pounces/
	by davidt-+AT+-cet.com (D H Tiffany/Shawn Marie Walker)
 22) Re: Info on the Cool Cloak Pattern lotsa ppl wanted!!!!
	by Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
 23) Godhood appointments/Bdays
	by infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria)

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:21:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Mat the Cat in Green <mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>
To: Mercedes Lackey mailing list <mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk>
Subject: Owlflight info!
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.93.961114001829.20584A-100000-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu>

Hey, I just looked at Firebird's web site, and there was an update
on Owlflight.  Here's the exact quote from the page.

"Owlflight - New Valdemar novel featuring the Hawkbrothers.  This takes
place after the events in Storm Breaking, and features a new character,
a Hawkbrother scout who has a owl bondbird.  The border, as ever is 
a chaotic place to live, and makes life very interesting."

So, though it's about Tayledras, and has an owl bondbird, it's
not about Wintermoon.


Mat
Cat Person, Champion in Green,     |"Don't go down the cargo bay
Adept, God of Procrastination      | when there's no ship in dock.
Heathen #???, and OoUL/L of tLotPW | You just might hear marracas clack
mtimme47-+AT+-magic.hofstra.edu         | and get a nasty shock."
http://ada.hofstra.edu/~mtimme47/  |  Carmen Miranda's Ghost - Leslie Fish


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 00:26:12 -0500
From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: SOLO!!!!!
Message-ID: <199611140551.AAA03718-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA>


	I GOT THE SOLO!!!!!  YAY!!!!!  I'M VERY HAPPY!!!!!

They tried to psyche me out, too.  Oof, I'll get them.  First off, she didn't 
say anything in rehearsal, and skipped right over that movement.  Then, during 
the break, i told her, "I'm not asking what it is, I just want to know if 
you've made a decision yet."  She said she had, and i'd know tonight.  By the 
end of rehearsal, she still hadn't said anything, and called a meeting of the 
executive, mentioning something about solos in it.  I went up to her and asked 
her yes or no.  She made noncomittal noises.  I asked her that if i waited 
outside, if by the end of the meeting she'd have a decision for me or would 
still by deciding.  She relented and said i could wait outside.  While i was 
waiting, slowly going crazy, i walked into the neighbooring room (which wasn't 
being used) and played the only Enya i know on the piano.  Then, one of the 
people told me they would see me.  I walked in the room, and everyone was 
acting very intimidating.  The director said, "We've decided to hire 
professionals."  I looked dissappointed, and said <snapping fingers>, "shucks. 
 Well, what kind of professionals?" keeping my tone light.  Everybody cracked 
up by then, and she said, "You got it.  Go home."

TADA!!!!!  It was worth the two weeks of waiting.

I also have to shut up now, because deniz has a Chem midterm tomorrow, and 
needs her sleep so she can study tomorrow (did that make sense?).  And Dax, 
deniz is sorry about reassigning Carrach to rainwood, she made a mental note 
(let's see how long *that* lasts) about it, and won't mix you all up again.

love,
free bard woodlark, Acolyte in |Et j'aime la nuit ecouter les etoiles.
Music and Song, and not deniz  |C'est comme cinq cents millions de
at all, even though i know her |grelots...
username and passwords. <weg>  |     --  Antoine de Saint-Exupery
                 dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 01:15:20 -0500
From: Zig1111-+AT+-aol.com
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Samhain&X-files (lotsa fluff, with an obMisty about bondbirds) 
Message-ID: <961114011520_1782591243-+AT+-emout10.mail.aol.com>

fuck you

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:02:06 +1000
From: Melanie Harris <mmharris-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Feeling Sorry for Songs
Message-ID: <328AD1FE.497D-+AT+-mat.army.defence.gov.au>

Heather wrote:
> Actually, I don't hate Herald's Creed.  It sounds like a triumphant,
> ceremonial kind of thing, something you'd hear at formal court events,
> along the lines of "God Save the Queen." I have to admit, I usually skip
> it too, but I can't say that I hated it.  I don't know why I'm telling
> you this, except that -- okay, I admit, some warped and spaced-out part
> of my brain is worried that the song will hear you and get its feelings
> hurt.  I'm trying to be supportive.  Yes, to a song.  I don't know; I'm
> just like this.

*snarf!* Don't worry, Heather, you aren't the only one who does things like 
that - I have long hair that I often wear in a plait, and my housemate 
sometimes picks up the end of the plait and wiggles it around like a hand 
puppet, pretending it's a very small dragon. He got it in the way once when I 
was trying to read, so I swatted his hand... and he made the "dragon" act 
dejected so well that I automatically apologised to it...

ObMisty: about being supportive of songs, or feeling sorry for them - what 
about all of Leslac's songs? I feel sorry for them, beginning their existence 
with such a bad start! <ggg>

> I...I don't think the position of Wand-Sworn Champion on the Ladies of
> the Pink Wand list is available to just any shaych female.  Lilac Fairy,
> it isn't really, is it?  I...have badgers, and...and...do I have to
> share my cool title?  I know it would be only nice, but....  Well, it's
> the Lilac Fairy's Bower.  She'll call it in the air or something.

Noooo!!!!! There is only one Wand-Sworn, and she's Heather!!!!!
<g> I think the closest we'll ever come to having another Wand-Sworn is if 
Heather decides to take a short break and somebody takes care of her duties 
for her, and even then they won't be a Wand-Sworn - they'll be a, a, a - a 
substitute! Accept No Substitutes - well, not for long, anyway!


Mel the Redcap
Redcap of the Pink Wand
Potential Goddess of Supernaturally Scary Socks (not digests!)

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:24:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Getting Chosen/visiting Valdemar
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961114022146.1105C-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

> 
> Please somebody, I would like to find that story of Alberich getting chosen,
> and I accidentally deleted the message where soemone said it was. Can you
> please tell me?
> 
> Ele
> Priestess of Karma

The story is "Stolen Silver" in _Horsefantastic_, I believe?  It's a
really good story.  It gives you a bit of an insight into Karse from the
army's point of view.  I seem to remember someone asking if different
languages matter when Mindspeaking...a long, long time ago. (?)  Anyway,
at the end of "Stolen Silver" when Alberich encounters the Heralds, they
speak to him Mind-to-Mind and the language barrier doesn't seem to affect
them.

 Renee Markowicz			 
flare-+AT+-udel.edu			 |"If this world were a logical place, men 
http://udel.edu/~flare/index.html| would ride side-saddle."
University of Delaware		 |



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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:39:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Samhain&X-files (lotsa fluff,  with an obMisty about bondbirds) 
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961114023531.1105D-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

> 
> ObMisty-What was it?  Ack...=b.  I don't remember...oh yes!  I can never keep
> Firesong's bondbird,  Aya,  as I male in my mind either.  I always think it's
> female.  I think it's the "a."  And...something I noticed,  but I could be
> mistaken.  Are all bondbirds and their Tayledras the same gender?  All the
> one's I can think of are...Darkwind and Vree,  I'm pretty sure Dawnfire's
> was,  Wintermoon's owls,  Corwith and k'Tavi?,  both of Starblade's,  Aya and
> Firesong.  That's all the characters I can think of.  Am I right?
> 
> Lady Silvermoon

Ohohoh!  First it was Corwith and K'Tathi.  But didn't Starwind have a
female bondbird?  Asheena?  Anyway, I also have trouble thinking of Aya as
a male.  Maybe b/c of Firesong's nature as shay'a'chern (remember a scene
where he is said to be balanced between his male and female sides), it
rubbed off on his bondbird and made his sex "ambiguous" as a result?
<ducking flying coconuts>  <g>

flare-+AT+-udel.edu			 |"If this world were a logical place, men 
http://udel.edu/~flare/index.html| would ride side-saddle."
University of Delaware		 |



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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 03:51:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Braid Ho!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961114030548.1105E-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

Warning!  Very big braid ahead!  <g>
I figured (after writing two very small messages) that this was stupid and
I should just braid everything like I usually do! :)  Here goes...

Nightshade said:
>>I *have* to have a mental image of the character, plus scenes, other
characters. etc.<<
Hmmm...(I'm being good Deniz...<g>) No, I'd have to say that my image of
characters has more of a fuzzy feel to it.  I never really see faces all
that clearly, although I do see general body shape/hair color, etc.
Speaking of images - does anyone have trouble envisioning what a person
with silver eyes would look like (Vanyel)?  I could never quite picture
that...
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Briana said:
>>Like Lee said I am a newbie, and I guess I really didn't introduce 
myself,
and I guess I did just sort of butt-in, *looks at the ground and shuffles
her feet*, but you all did look like you were having such a good time and...
well...
*looking very innocent and childlike*  Can I play too?<<

<grabs Briana up in a *huge* bear hug and very narrowly avoids squeezing
the life out of her> <then grabs her hand and pulls her into rolling down
a wonderfully slopy hill of green grass> <g> Of course you're welcome to
come and play!  I remember having the same reaction - Yee Gods!  Was it
only 2 weeks and 2 days ago???  Jump right in!  Don't be afraid to get
your feet wet, we'll all be happy to include you!
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Kat said:
OBMisty: I am curious as to this, does anyone know the full Sunsinger and 
Shadowdancer story?  There are parts of it all over the place in 
different songs and stuff, but is it ever really told?

Me: Unfortunately, Misty has not seen fit to write the full S&S story.
>From what I've heard, she never intends to - sigh!
===============================================================================
Shannon said:
>Hello, I'm new around here, and I decided to finally jump in and 
>respond to something!  I have to say I think the picture is definitely

Welcome Shannon!  Hope you have fun!  (BTW, if I miss any newbies, <opens
wide pleading eyes> I'm sorry! :( This can count for you too!)
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GROVEBORN FIRECATS:
Yeah.  I agree.  They do seem kind of Groveborn.  I think that it has to
do with the fact that they are specially dispensed from Vkandis at need,
and that there usually isn't more than one at a time.
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Hades:
>BTW (By The Way)- please respond because this is my first time mailing
>something onto the list and if no one responds I will be crushed to the
point
>of jumping off a building...well, a really small one.

Welcome Hades!  You shouldn't be worried about people responding to your
posts.  People here are pretty talkative (I mean that in a good way!).  If
you can't find an individual response, look for one in a braid - like this
one! <g>
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Mat said:
>Roald shook his head, and sighed. 'A few years back, her sister went mad
>during a storm and killed herself.  Or so it's said, and nobody wants
>to find out otherwise.  I'm supposed to be keeping an eye on her, to keep

Oh!  I remember that part!  I was trying to remember where the "Dark and
Stormy night" proof was!  Thanks.  This part of the book seems like a
direct summary of the song to me...

>are Faramentha, Darenthallis, and Karathanelan. The problem is that,
>in BTS, Misty accidently refers to Idra as Daren's "Aunt Idra", when
>she's his great Aunt.

It may not have been an accident.  I had a Great Uncle Charles, but
everyone (even the young ones he was a Great Uncle to) just called him
Uncle Charles.  You want to show respect, but at the same time, you don't
want to make your "Great" relatives feel really old.  So, she may have
really meant "Aunt Idra".  See what I mean?  Maybe?

>> Moondance's story and what sounds like a Tayledras shaman's chant -- go
>> figure, but it's a nice song.
>
>I used to think that too, until someone here pointed something out.
>It's more likely the song that Stef wrote for the kyree when Van was
>recovering from the rape.  IIRC, there were supposed to be lots of 
>drums in it, so that they could play it themselves, and "Earth Spirit"
>has lots of drums.  Cool song one way or the other.

I always got the feeling that "Earth Spirit" was supposed to be a
Shin'a'in song/chant...
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>that's it from me (wow, twice in one day!!  Yup! procrastinating
>again...)
>
>Viv

Hey look, Mat!  Another one!  <giggle!>
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Vix said:
>>of that at home.  I remember thinking how bizarre, because I'd always 
pictured Kris with glossy black hair and icy blue eyes and the most 
wonderful line to his jaw and. . . well, my hopes were dashed.<<
 
Never fear, Vix!  Kris _does_ have black hair!  Unless this was the
Contradiction Scene that someone was looking for.  People have been
posting a lot of textevd as to why Kris has black hair.  Hopefully, you
can undash your hopes and rejoice!
BTW, Welcome!!!!
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I feal bad.  I forgot who the God of Crappy Weather is!  Oh no!  Well,
Your Holiness, I live (for the moment) in Newark, Delaware, and was
wondering if you could eventually see to sending a snowstorm our way.  I
appreciate the 20-30 minutes we got on Monday, but I was inside and missed
it.  :(  Pleeeeeaaassssseeee?

Just one more thing - a concern.  I received three messages (from two
different people) that were _extremely_ rude.  I don't know if they were
posted to the list (I think they were) or just to me.  Did anyone else get
them?  They were pretty distasteful, I won't repeat them.  They were just
short one/two liners.  It just left me with a really bad taste in my
mouth.  Anyone know anything?

Zhai'helleva
Renee Markowicz			 
flare-+AT+-udel.edu			 |"If this world were a logical place, men 
http://udel.edu/~flare/index.html| would ride side-saddle."
University of Delaware		 |




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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:58:51 -0500
From: Larissa march <kitanzi-+AT+-javanet.com>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Hi, Hades!/kestra'cherns/Choosing/the bondbird thing
Message-ID: <328B178B.F5A-+AT+-javanet.com>

> Tammy wrote:
  Moondance's flirtation
> with Vanyel made me think about the nature of lifebonding; it's kind of
> opposite to Savil's thought that Vanyel's pretty face wasn't going to
> turn Donni's head since she's lifebound, but then there's a huge
> difference between Valdemaran & Tayledras sexual mores.
>         The SW scene you're referring to--isn't that the one where
> Darkwind & Firesong are flirting and An'desha gets all mopey?--I didn't
> recall that Elspeth said that nonmonogamy was usual, just that Tayledras
> consider it an option.  If I were inventing "lifebonding", I wouldn't make
> monogamy a built-in feature (meaning, part of the compulsiveness of it),
> but I inferred from the Heighlei's attitude that maybe Misty *had*.
 
I think that it's definitely the norm, if not an iron bound rule. Van
tried explaining to Yfandes that it would be difficult for many people,
even other Heralds, to understand Shavri wanting a child enough to go to
bed with someone who is not her lifebonded.
 
Lorrain said:
After a day of reading, I can now
make this
place look like I spent hours straightening up in under 30 minutes--of
course, my
lifemate wouldn't notice whether I'd done anything, anyhow.  I have been
wedded
for 28+ years, and the 5 offspring (from 26 to 10, with one
handicapped)--I
think I
have put in enough time as an apprentice--could I please be the Goddess
of
Domesticity/Laundry??????please, please, please?????I know--doesn't seem
like
much, but, at least, as official goddess, maybe I can find a way to get
some
help
around here, so's I can READ more.  Also, as goddess, I could "forgive"
those
that feel guilty about not taking care of their homes after a hard day
at
classes
and spending hours on-line, reading their mail and posting to this list.

Please, please, let me place a request in advance for a miracle just as
soon as you have your domain confirmed, gracious goddess - anyone who
can do hours of cleaning in 30 minutes is someone I am bound to worship!
After 8 hours of work, plus an hour before and after on the bus, I could
REALLY use that ability so I could properly worship you by sitting and
reading Mercedes Lackey for the rest of the night! <G> What sort of
sacrifice should I offer to seal this... hmm.... a (properly tamed)
version of the apprentice's broom from Fantasia?? :)

HTH said:
What do you all expect to see when a character is experiencing PMS?
Most of us don't act all that differently on the job, and we mainly see
her characters in a responsible, work-type situation.  I don't know any
women who visibly freak out in their offices or classrooms once a month.
Most of us just go about our daily lives, occasionally grumbling to our
friends.  It isn't that dramatic.

This is true - however, I really can't even remember anyone complaining
to their friends about it there. And those hot springs sound GREAT for
that particular problem.....

Kit (who is trying to braid after all, now that I"m going long enough
between checking in to have more than 4 messages at a shot! <G>)

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Date: 14 Nov 1996 07:35:13 -0500
From: "Kimber Brumbaugh" <kimber_brumbaugh-+AT+-library.lib.ncsu.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Godhood appointments.
Message-ID: <n1364165234.59539-+AT+-library.lib.ncsu.edu>

*Cennydd wrote:
*So, the good news (you knew that I would eventually get to it, right?) is
*that all of you God(ess)s in waiting can now make your applications and be
*named to your Positions.  To facilitate this, could all of the currently
*named deities let me know who you are and what you are deities of?  And
*all of the hopefuls should send me a message saying what you want to be
*the deity of and why.  As soon as I get stuff sorted out, I will have the
*naming ceremonies.  

Well, I am the incredibly non-vocal Goddess of Eternal Optimism- here to be
added to the list of positions already filled. I can't really say what I'm a
deity of since I think I cover just about anything and everything you can
think of...

Oh, and just to save this from being mainly off topic... About the Kris hair
color thing. If you look at the first part of AF when they're returning from
her internship, he's discussing with his Companion how he and Talia could be
twins. His Companion notes that she has a bit too much red in her dark hair to
match his, etc. and so forth.

Okay, I saved it from being _really_ off topic :)

Kimber
Goddess of Eternal Optimism
kimber_brumbaugh-+AT+-library.lib.ncsu.edu
http://www.catt.ncsu.edu/users/willow/www/home.html



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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:45:22 -0500
From: "Emily L Cartier" <ecartier-+AT+-engr.udayton.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re:sun&shadow/solo
Message-ID: <9611141447.AA09940-+AT+-udecc.engr.udayton.edu>

Kat asked:
>I am curious as to this, does anyone know the full Sunsinger and 
>Shadowdancer story?  There are parts of it all over the place in 
>different songs and stuff, but is it ever really told?

Nope. Misty has said that we know enough about the Founding, 
Windrider and Sunsinger and Shadowdancer from the songs about them 
and she won't be writing any books about them (moan). This is really 
strange because those three stories are probably the most requested 
in the entire series.

Woodlark screamed: I GOT THE SOLO!!!!!  YAY!!!!!  I'M VERY HAPPY!!!!!
Congratulations Woodlark! We're all proud of you !!!!! 

Emily the invisible


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 09:50:45 -0500
From: dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Plait: unwanted mail/BDAY/bonding/those rudebies/PMS/the
Message-ID: <199611141502.KAA18506-+AT+-sirocco.CC.McGill.CA>

There is misty content after the first bar.

Ok.  First off.  If you are getting mail talking about random stuff you really 
don't understand from Gods, Goddesses, and Clergy members, and are not happy 
about it, the solution is simple.  Send an e-mail to listproc-+AT+-herald.co.uk 
with a blank subject line and with either

UNSUBSCRIBE mercedes-lackey
or
SIGNOFF mercedes-lackey

in the message.  The reason you were getting this mail is because somebody who 
has access to your e-mail account (i.e.: they know your password or got on the 
computer before you had logged off and you weren't on it), and they sent a 
message subscribing you to the list.  The other possibility is that somehow 
Vanyel (the list proccessor machinery) is acting up again, and somehow adding 
addresses to the list.  If the above things don't work, try sending a *polite* 
note to Melanie at server-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk  If it's not polite, trust me, 
she will chew you up, and spit you out.  She doesn't argue that she can be a 
real b*tch.

#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CARRACH!!!!!

On this, thine birthday, may thy poetic pen run smooth across creamy vellum, 
may thy ink-well never run dry, and may you find joy in all the little things 
of life... like closing a notebook to sit back and chat with friends and 
procrastinate. <shameless plug, i know.>
#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#
About the cross-gender bondings with the Tayledras:
I always thought that at least one of Wintermoon's birds was female, because 
didn't it hatch a clutch?  Not during the story line, but Darkwind reminisces. 
 Sorry, me-+AT+-home, books-+AT+-bookstore.
#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#
Renee said:
>>Just one more thing - a concern.  I received three messages (from two
different people) that were _extremely_ rude.  I don't know if they were
posted to the list (I think they were) or just to me.  Did anyone else get
them?  They were pretty distasteful, I won't repeat them.  They were just
short one/two liners.  It just left me with a really bad taste in my
mouth.  Anyone know anything?<<

Yeah.  They were posted to the list.  If you read the first section of my 
message, you'll see how I'm responding.  I'm also sending them private mail 
along the same lines as you read.  One way to see whether a message was posted 
to the list or not is to hit Reply, and look at the address that pops up in 
the To: line.
#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#
Kit said:
>>>HTH said:
What do you all expect to see when a character is experiencing PMS?
Most of us don't act all that differently on the job, and we mainly see
her characters in a responsible, work-type situation.  I don't know any
women who visibly freak out in their offices or classrooms once a month.
Most of us just go about our daily lives, occasionally grumbling to our
friends.  It isn't that dramatic.

This is true - however, I really can't even remember anyone complaining
to their friends about it there. And those hot springs sound GREAT for
that particular problem.....<<<

Ok.  Let me explain.  I don't mean cramps (I get them during not before) -- I 
mean attitude.  When I am PMS'd, my emotions run closer to the surface.  I am 
much quicker to snap someone's head off or to break down crying.  Look at some 
of my hysterical comments concerning "that word" and you'll see me in top PMS 
form.  If I were PMS'd right now, the first part of this mail would have been 
extremely rude.  And the private messages would have had references concerning 
the berries their parents smelled of, what animals they preferred in their 
beds and so on.  But they don't.  I'm being reasonable, and subscribing to the 
"hate breeds hate" cycle and that it must be broken somewhere.
#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#
Soooo... Cennydd... if *you're* a God *and* an Avatar, does that change some 
of our rules or not about Deities serving other Deities?
#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#
I think woodlark forgot to mention this before, so I'll make an observation.  
She's doing the Silly Soprano Salsa.  It's really fun to watch and be swept 
into.  Like now.  Gotta go!

love,
deniz sarikaya, High Priestess |But she had the trick of making a little
of Procrastination and Holy    |island right in the middle of time, and of
Custodian of the B-Day List.   |your knowing, which is what time does to
Confused?  Write me!           |you.    --   Robert Penn Warren
                 dsarik-+AT+-PO-Box.McGill.CA

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:08:45 GMT
From: Melanie Dymond Harper <mel>
To: mercedes-lackey
Subject: ADMIN: misdirected messages
Message-ID: <199611141508.PAA29372-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk>

A couple of people pointed out the ... let's call them misdirected messages
to the list. One of the posters concerned (the more polite of the two) managed
to figure out how to unsubscribe, the other has been summarily bounced from
the list.

I'll take this opportunity to ask that people subscribing via Web browsers
check that their browser has the correct email address set in it before sending
the mail; I had to deal with someone having been subscribed in error to one
of the other lists I admin a few weeks ago, and that all turned very nasty
(about as impolite, but hopefully his postmaster made mincemeat of him). Far
better to subscribe via an ordinary mail program if at all possible.

Cheers

Mel, listmistress hat firmly planted on head.


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:41:37 -0500
From: Rozanna McNeer <rozanm-+AT+-wow.com>
To: "mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk" <MERCEDES-LACKEY-+AT+-HERALD.CO.UK>
Subject: Reply to:When is Florian going to Choose Karal
Message-ID: <199611141041_MC1-BF6-7CE6-+AT+-compuserve.com>

 
*giggle* you have NO idea how funny that is to those of us who have read
SBreaking. Florian - Karal <g>

No, seriously, it's, well. . . I can't say anything without it being a spoiler. sorry. 



Firemist

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:06:16 -0500
From: "Cara S. Smith" <nitebird-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: ADMIN: misdirected messages
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19961114160616.006c2828-+AT+-ns.gamewood.net>

At 03:27 P 11/14/96 GMT, you wrote:
>A couple of people pointed out the ... let's call them misdirected messages
>to the list. One of the posters concerned (the more polite of the two) managed
>to figure out how to unsubscribe, the other has been summarily bounced from
>the list.
<snip>
>Mel, listmistress hat firmly planted on head.

Ok.. this is worth breaking my rule about not de-lurking for a week..

As a newbie to this list.. (well sorta newbie.. i was subscribed six months
ago, and RL intervened.. I just re-subscribed a few days ago..)  I want to
say how nice it is to see that.  Taking care of someone rude, and completely
out of line, without lowering yourself to thier level.  Just wanted to say
thanks, publically.  To often, people complain publically, and praise
privately.  I don't like that.. so I'm praising publically.  Glad to be
back, and look forward to all the wonderful mail by ya'll...

Ob-Misty.. hmm.. I know i can come up with SOMETHING!!.. hmm.. OH.. yeah..
actually got someone started on Misty by telling them Vanyel was saych.
Now, after Magic's Pawn.. they are hooked.. YES!!!

WTTW,
The NiteBird


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:05:54 -0700 (MST)
From: mrtmh-+AT+-primenet.com (Lady 'Reesa)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-vanyel.herald.co.uk
Subject: Missing a digest
Message-ID: <199611141605.JAA26827-+AT+-primenet.com>

Hey there Misty-listy,

        Yeah...me again.  Sorry.  For some unknown reason, I never recieved
Digest #944  Could I talk someone into sending it to me?  Please?  Thanks in
advance.

Love, Lust and Linoleum,
(But not on it, because it's cold, and way to 
hard to be comfortable...did I say that?  *grin*)

'Reesa
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 'Reesa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
INTERVIEWER: "Could you destroy the earth with 
the power of your mind?
TICK:  Egads!  I _hope_ not!  That's where I 
keep all my _stuff_!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
http://www.angelfire.com/az/LadyReesa/index.html


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:52:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tensen <tensen-+AT+-crow.cybercomm.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: ADMIN: misdirected messages
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.961114115050.30291C-100000-+AT+-crow.cybercomm.net>



On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Melanie Dymond Harper wrote:

> 
> I'll take this opportunity to ask that people subscribing via Web browsers
> check that their browser has the correct email address set in it before sending
> the mail; I had to deal with someone having been subscribed in error to one
> of the other lists I admin a few weeks ago, and that all turned very nasty
> (about as impolite, but hopefully his postmaster made mincemeat of him). Far
> better to subscribe via an ordinary mail program if at all possible.
> 

Oooh, the horrid web-browsers.  You could technically subscribe anyone 
that way.  It really evil to have list subscriptions that way.  I wonder 
how many Xtians got subscribed to Satanism lists and such. 


                                      Tensen


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:55:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Mostly FLUFF!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961114112911.18239B-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

Oh, Wintershard, I'm sorry!  I didn't realize you were a demon, not a god
- I just found the reference in an old list post.  (Gosh I hope I got this
right.  If I didn't I will feel _extremely_ foolish...)  Anyway, I wanted
to thank you for the wonderful little flurries this morning around 10:00.
They were *sniff* beautiful.  I didn't expect my prayers to be answered so
promptly...(then again as Co-High Priestess of Procrastination, why should
I expect _anything_ to get done promptly? <g>)

I have a rather curious request to make of all you listmembers.  (Is that
supposed to be two words?)  Anyway, I digress.  I'm in a class at the U.
of D. about the Holocaust.  For my final report/project I am designing a
concert as a memorial to the victims/survivors of the Holocaust.  (This
will not actually be performed as a concert, but I am going to record a
couple of the songs for my teacher's/class's benefit - I sing Soprano II
and play clarinet.)  I am starting to look for songs that were written
during the Holocaust, by survivors, about the Holocaust, anything of that
nature.  If anyone knows of any appropriate songs, could you let me know?
You can post to the list or e-mail me privately at <flare-+AT+-udel.edu>.
Thanks a bunch!  You know, I've never enjoyed doing reports - even fun
project type ones, but I find myself really looking forward to this one.
<jumping up and down, can barely contain excitement>  <suddenly lunges to
the side as her jumping up and down almost causes her lunch (which is in a
very precarious position on her lap) to take an unplanned trip onto the
floor>  <G!>  

Oh no!  My dear god, Mat, forgive me for I have sinned!  I just realized
that by even thinking about this project now, I have failed in my duty to
procrastinate!  (It isn't due until Dec. 5!)  Oh forgive me, Great One, my
passions overcame me!  Will it be enough to say that 21 days is an
extremely short time to find and learn and record several songs?
Hopehopehope!  <Renee suddenly finds herself on her knees at Mat's feet
and looking up at him with wide open puppy-dog eyes - They haven't failed
me yet! <g>>  Renee finds herself praying (to Mat, of course) that he will
be melted by the genuine pleading look in her oh-so-aborable puppy dog
eyes and grant her forgiveness.  Pretty Please?

Thanks to all those who cleared up the "rude people" problem for me.  I
had begun to wonder if someone had taken a dislike to me!  Glad to know
that's not the case - I hope...<worried frown>

ObMisty: Uuuhhh... Hmmmm... Drawing a blank.  Not good.  Must think.  I
was talking to my best friend the other day (via e-mail--_much_ less
expensive than the telephone) :) and it turns out that her roommate is a
Misty fan!  We just keep cropping up in the most unlikely of places, don't
we?  :) <g>  Does that count?  Pleasepleaseplease!

Renee, High Priestess of Procrastination
flare-+AT+-udel.edu			 |"If this world were a logical place, men 
http://udel.edu/~flare/index.html| would ride side-saddle."
University of Delaware		 |


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Date:          Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:11:35 CST
From: "JAIME HATHAWAY" <JSJAHATH-+AT+-future.judson.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid Ho!
Message-ID: <F0C9F92F55-+AT+-future.judson.edu>

Renee--I got those messages,too, so they must have been posted to the 
list, I figure.
ObMisty.....oh,goodness...let's see....is anyone curious as to what 
happened to Vanyel's other children?  Esp. the one that was raised by 
the two saych(sp?) guards?  I'm waiting for them to make an 
appearance, well, their descendants, at least.
Jacquelle
Oh, very clever, Worf.  Eat any good books lately?
--Q

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:21:39 -0500
From: Rose <prose-+AT+-ctol.net>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: earth spirit/ Thanks 
Message-ID: <328B5523.5BA7-+AT+-ctol.net>

Renee wrote:
>I always got the feeling that "Earth Spirit" was supposed to be a
>Shin'a'in song/chant...

I always thought so too. When Stefan wrote the song for the kyree, 
wasn't there some mention that it was instrumental. Something that the 
kryee could hum, or whatever they do, out loud along too?
----------
And to the people who were kind enough to deal with the unpleasentness 
we had yesterday. THANK_YOU! I got in too late last evening <grin> to 
think coherent thoughts and do anything about that inexcusable meanness. 
So I am eternally (internally? nah, no food involved) grateful to you. 
As a gift of my appreciation, how about accepting a day that conforms to 
your greatest desires and expectations with no morning-after syndrome 
involved? At least we all know we're a group of good fun people who only 
singe when it is deserved.
                   Dyana
-- 
"If I couldn't fill my stomach, I'd fill my head.
But I never could fill the words that I said."
                                    Pantera
"Are we dead?" ;;;"No" ;;;"But you promised."
                          Dinosaurs

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:28:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Renee Mic Markowicz <flare-+AT+-UDel.Edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Braid Ho!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961114122322.18239D-100000-+AT+-copland.udel.edu>

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, JAIME HATHAWAY wrote:
> ObMisty.....oh,goodness...let's see....is anyone curious as to what 
> happened to Vanyel's other children?  Esp. the one that was raised by 

Yeah, I've always wondered what happened to them.  Remember the one that
was Brightstar's twin?  I always wondered what happened to her.  I mean,
in the Arrows trilogy, Misty makes a big deal out of Keren and Teren being
twins.  I always thought that maybe she might do something with that.
Also, I got to like Brightstar from the one scene he was in in MPrice.  I
think that he's the one that Firesong is descended from.  I wish I knew a
little more about him.  ("If wishes were fishes, we'd walk on the sea,
teacher-love." -Vanyel: MPromise) :)

Renee 
flare-+AT+-udel.edu		|"I'm trying to find a polite way of saying 'drop 
University of Delaware	|dead' and not having much luck." 
Pre-Veterinary student	|	-Vlad Taltos     
**High Priestess of 	|"Don't bother being polite.  I died before the	   
   Procrastination**	|Interregnum.  Will you take the job?" 
			|	-Sethra Lavode
http://udel.edu/~flare/index.html



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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:21:05 -0800
From: davidt-+AT+-cet.com (D H Tiffany/Shawn Marie Walker)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Pounces/
Message-ID: <OB2iywHqhNjG088yn-+AT+-cet.com>


On Mon, 11 Nov (yes, I'm behind again) 1996 mishi said;

>POUNCE!!! POUNCE!! POUNCE! POUNCE!!! POUNCE!! POUNCE!. Okay I think that 
>about covers it. That better now. GIt of PYTOS!!! Aw the heck with. 
>POUNCES on the Git of Tyops just for the heck of it. *giggle*

Why, omm , thank you mishi, I've not **been** pounced before, at least
not by anyone over the age of ten!!!!! I did sorta ask for it though, 
didn't I? I think I'll sheep off over here for awhile and repair my 
dignity.
8-{)#

---------------------------------<>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

On some date, now lost to history, Jacquelle proposed that;

>You know, I have a theory on why a lot of us see kris with blonde 
>hair.  maybe it works, maybe not.  Didn't Talia's evil brother, 
>Jadus(?), have blonde hair?  and didn't she compare Kris and Jadus on 
>more than one occasion, concerning their good looks?  It was only 
>mentioned once, iirc, that Kris had black hair, so maybe we all just 
>sub-conciously (like my spelling?) gave Kris blonde hair.  

Very probably. I think, in spite of confusing Jadus (nice elderly fellow)
with Talia's Horrid Brother(tm), that this is the best theory on this list
wide mix-up yet prorposed. Congratulations on a successful demistification
(no pun intended) of the conundurum.

DAvid Tiffany, God of Teapots

Kleptomaniac, n. A rich thief.


>>
>>
>>Ex astris, scientia
>>
>
>Why would we shoot bullets at it.  I thought the same things you did.  But
>then again I don't always remember all the small points of a book like what
>they look like.
>
>Aistes
>
>
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>
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>



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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 13:15:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Vrondi <deanca-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Re: Info on the Cool Cloak Pattern lotsa ppl wanted!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961108131157.1295D-100000-+AT+-student1.concord.wvnet.edu>

Okay, a whole _bunch_ of people asked me about where I found the cloak
pattern I mentioned, so here y'all go:

Kinsale Cloak  Pattern #207
Folk Ware Patterns
Taunton Press
63 South Main Street
Box 5506
Newtown, CT 06470-5506

In 1992 the pattern cost was : $12.99 (U.S. Dollars)

Hope that helps y'all some.

-Vrondi a.k.a Chrys Amy Dean, a.k.a Free Bard Oriole.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"To light a candle is to cast a shadow..."
-"A Wizard of Earthsea" by Ursula K. LeGuin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://edweb.concord.wvnet.edu/~deanca/celtic


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 15:27 EST
From: infodyn-+AT+-distrinet.com.uy (Eleonora Scoseria)
To: mercedes-lackey-+AT+-herald.co.uk
Subject: Godhood appointments/Bdays
Message-ID: <m0vO6Vg-000pkgC-+AT+-nicasio.distrinet.com.uy>

Hear, oh Cennydd, the requests of this thy humble priestess!
I would like to endorse (that does not sound too priestly a word does it ;))
the petitions of the following deities-to-be, since I deem their pledges to
be most worthy. 

Mel the Redcap wrote:
>I consider that I am worthy to be named Goddess of Supernaturally 
>Scary Socks (not digests!), since it is my custom to often wear socks that 
>are fluorescent, striped in startling colours, polkadotted, starred, 
>flower-printed or psychedelic - to *work*.

Anyone who can come up with such an original distinctive feature is
absolutely in my list of favorites and imagine what a Goddess of scary socks
could contribute to the fashion in the list. (BTW, do you imagine Elspeth in
her redesigned Whites with scary socks??)

Lorraine wrote:
>As goddess, I could "forgive" those that feel guilty about not taking care
of their >homes after a hard day at classes and spending hours on-line,
reading their mail and >posting to this list.
> With a little thought, I'm sure I could come up with more things I'll be
good at as a
>goddess. 

You know, this lady does sound worthy of Godhood. Imagine what we could
accomplish if all our domestic sins were forgiven automatically, and also,
someone who can get her priorities so right is an excellent example of the
path we all should follow, i.e. more reading and less housework ;). Not that
I do much of the latter, but anyway.

Happy birthday Carrach and all those I have forgotten. To each of you I give
a flower (your favorite of course) that will never wilt and the fragrance of
which will always make you recall the best moments of your life, without any
tinge of sadness at all. 

BTW, I am proud of the way we all reacted to those intruders in the list,
specially our beloved listmistress.

WTTW,
Ele


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